Just the fact that Diddy has a positive matchup against nearly every sword character makes him better than Palu imo. I haven't seen that clip from Charles, but imagining it is hilarious. ''And you did it with your favorite character! *stares*'' Edit: I just looked at the clip. It's so awkward I love it.
Agreed. No way is Palu better lol. Diddy Kong makes me sweat while Palu is so easy to beat I feel like. Once you know her flowchart even the really good Palus kind of get stomped. Makes it even more impressive that Lui$ is as good as he is.
People need to understand that Diddy is one of those characters. When people talk about who's on, and say Cloud, Fox, Joker, Roy etc. Diddy Kong is just as good, if not slightly better than those characters. At least the first two. Imo. Palutena is still great but I'm sorry, they're not in the same ballpark.
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As someone who won a tournament recently, it is indeed VERY difficult. To go 2-2 consistently. It takes not just a lot of knowledge but the right head space and energy to even make it that far. I nearly lost my round 2 pools set and had to reverse 3-0 my opponent in close games just to get to the next round (he was a top seed and I was last seed so I had the upset of the tournament). Making that run was mentally taxing and after the tournament, I had to stop playing for a while because I was burned out.
I watched that summit comment live. Tbh i was as hyped as Charles and was also like wtf Spargo do something cry, jump you deserve this! Man what a timeline
I believe in 2021/2022, like Mainstage, PP6, Low Tide, that whole era where Lui$ was always super close to winning big, I remember he had a curse where he would make every top 8, but would never win a set in top 8. He'd always get 7th or start in winners and instantly lose 2, so this was really a lot more important of a run than it seems, as he not only proved that he could still make top 8, he proved he could go beyond that
19:13 this is similar to league as well. I'm a new player and the game is almost impossible to learn on your own and the game doesn't teach you shit. I've been playing smash since release and certain concepts are just inherited across games.
As a snake main who toyed with banjo to some degree? Nah We basically out box and out zone him consistently and snakes wight comes in really handy in making banjo have a bad time taking a single stick off of snake
@ but as a banjo main who toyed with snake for a long time it's at least a better matchup than diddy. you can compete with the zoning, i'd argue the boxing is even, and wonder wing makes nakita basically useless
@@doctordice2doctordice210 i mean snake and banjo are the exact same weight, and sure the kill confirms can be tough but for someone like tweek who can do fast cancels and can rack damage extremely well i think it's at least worth a try
Zero Suit is not unviable lol. She's high tier. The fact is Marss doesn't practice and his fans expect him to do well in the most competitive period of Ultimate. Just not how it works. It's even a testament to him and the character that in spite of this he still gets good results more often than not when he enters. Marss, from his own mouth said to Light if he started taking the game serious again, he could get back to t10 status in maybe a few months. I don't know about that, but I have no doubt that he would be a problem again if he did. And most complaints wouldn't exist. People complain and complain until they actually start believing it.
@@lokks2130 imo the nerfs to nair and up b have significantly worsened the character. Kills are way harder to find now. Not that I don’t believe Marss couldn’t get back to his elite status but he’d have to complete change his play style. Charles had said multiple times of how dangerous zss could be if people looked to timeout and camp more. Even doing that ZSS is in the lower part of high tier
ZSS is okay but honestly a lot less rewarding than many others and it just feels so hard to get much going against players who stay grounded and shield/parry a lot. Unlike Diddy who forces more RPS with Monkey Flip, ZSS’s only real option is to use grab which leaves her wide open to die if she gets spot dodged or whiffs. The nair nerfs were also much more significant because hitting it and comboing into flip kick kind of became impossible to land after everyone just started shielding at ledge and holding outwards if they ever got naired.
Just the fact that Diddy has a positive matchup against nearly every sword character makes him better than Palu imo.
I haven't seen that clip from Charles, but imagining it is hilarious. ''And you did it with your favorite character! *stares*''
Edit: I just looked at the clip. It's so awkward I love it.
Agreed. No way is Palu better lol. Diddy Kong makes me sweat while Palu is so easy to beat I feel like. Once you know her flowchart even the really good Palus kind of get stomped. Makes it even more impressive that Lui$ is as good as he is.
People need to understand that Diddy is one of those characters. When people talk about who's on, and say Cloud, Fox, Joker, Roy etc. Diddy Kong is just as good, if not slightly better than those characters. At least the first two. Imo.
Palutena is still great but I'm sorry, they're not in the same ballpark.
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Haz really needs his ego stroked, what if you did an only Haz one lol
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@@Hazmatt whoa the Haz responded to my comment. I'm honored ❤️
As someone who won a tournament recently, it is indeed VERY difficult. To go 2-2 consistently. It takes not just a lot of knowledge but the right head space and energy to even make it that far. I nearly lost my round 2 pools set and had to reverse 3-0 my opponent in close games just to get to the next round (he was a top seed and I was last seed so I had the upset of the tournament). Making that run was mentally taxing and after the tournament, I had to stop playing for a while because I was burned out.
Every time haz mentions the smashie:
Pink: ICANT
Just imagine how much he mentions it offline
Congrats to Sparg0 on back to back Ws. It was great to see Lui$ do well with Palutena he got some great wins and almost defeated Miya!
It took me forever to become a consistent 2-2 player in smash . You have to so knowledgeable to even take advantage of good matchups
I’m so happy for Sparg0 finally claiming that top spot. He’s been wanting it for so long.
It is very hard to go 2-2 in ultimate. Just to win one set takes months of practice and studying. Card games are easier. Lol.
I watched that summit comment live. Tbh i was as hyped as Charles and was also like wtf Spargo do something cry, jump you deserve this!
Man what a timeline
I believe in 2021/2022, like Mainstage, PP6, Low Tide, that whole era where Lui$ was always super close to winning big, I remember he had a curse where he would make every top 8, but would never win a set in top 8. He'd always get 7th or start in winners and instantly lose 2, so this was really a lot more important of a run than it seems, as he not only proved that he could still make top 8, he proved he could go beyond that
Hope you feel better soon Tweek and Pink fresh
19:13 this is similar to league as well. I'm a new player and the game is almost impossible to learn on your own and the game doesn't teach you shit. I've been playing smash since release and certain concepts are just inherited across games.
28:00 Pink spittin. I feel she's akin to Bayo but less X factor since no Wt.
Man if characters like banjo can do well in tournament there's no way solo palu can't win a major. Palu can totally do it
Refreshing to hear a no nonsense common sense take. It's amazing when people play all these good characters and be like "yeah idk if I can do it" lol
Luis of the Coin actually threw tho
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I live for the Tweek Olimar era
32:46 Yknow, Olimar does actually do pretty well vs Diddy's losing mus...
marcus saying palu can’t do it nowadays is prob the craziest take i’ve ever heard.
26:06 Banjo has a fun matchup vs Snake, not necessarily a good one, but a fun one
Bro rly tryna argue that the neutral skip monkey has it harder than the “neutral or literally nothing” char
Surprised they didn't mention MKLeo/BigBoss when they talked about doubles teams
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Did you guys forget about nario or what lmao?
Tweak is spitting! Solo Palu is better than solo Diddy
So in Ultimate now we are saying Palu is mentally taxing?
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Bring back the Tweek Wolf for Snake and Duck Hunt
shoutout moky tho fr
Guys we have to start wearing respirators again or we’re just going to keep getting sick
Go Banjo for Snake trust trust trust
banjo does well against snake
As a snake main who toyed with banjo to some degree? Nah
We basically out box and out zone him consistently and snakes wight comes in really handy in making banjo have a bad time taking a single stick off of snake
@ but as a banjo main who toyed with snake for a long time it's at least a better matchup than diddy.
you can compete with the zoning, i'd argue the boxing is even, and wonder wing makes nakita basically useless
@@cashwilliams3988 still, the guy can barely kill and snake us annoyingly heavy , it’s a struggle
@@doctordice2doctordice210 i mean snake and banjo are the exact same weight, and sure the kill confirms can be tough but for someone like tweek who can do fast cancels and can rack damage extremely well i think it's at least worth a try
I’d argue olimar pichu AND ZZS got the biggest nerfs. Nerfs to ZSS basically turned her unviable
ZSS isnt a character in SSBU? Theres a blue spandex wearing chick with an electric whip, but thats Zero Suit Shamus, not Zero Suit Samus.
Zero Suit is not unviable lol. She's high tier. The fact is Marss doesn't practice and his fans expect him to do well in the most competitive period of Ultimate. Just not how it works. It's even a testament to him and the character that in spite of this he still gets good results more often than not when he enters.
Marss, from his own mouth said to Light if he started taking the game serious again, he could get back to t10 status in maybe a few months. I don't know about that, but I have no doubt that he would be a problem again if he did. And most complaints wouldn't exist.
People complain and complain until they actually start believing it.
@@lokks2130 imo the nerfs to nair and up b have significantly worsened the character. Kills are way harder to find now. Not that I don’t believe Marss couldn’t get back to his elite status but he’d have to complete change his play style. Charles had said multiple times of how dangerous zss could be if people looked to timeout and camp more. Even doing that ZSS is in the lower part of high tier
@@ashwinwilson1276 Not arguing the character hasn't gotten worse. She has. It's obvious. But it's obvious that the character is still good.
ZSS is okay but honestly a lot less rewarding than many others and it just feels so hard to get much going against players who stay grounded and shield/parry a lot. Unlike Diddy who forces more RPS with Monkey Flip, ZSS’s only real option is to use grab which leaves her wide open to die if she gets spot dodged or whiffs.
The nair nerfs were also much more significant because hitting it and comboing into flip kick kind of became impossible to land after everyone just started shielding at ledge and holding outwards if they ever got naired.
Lucina or palu
the answer is lucina but u have to ask the right people. leo and sparg0 can vouch 👀
palu
Palu is still broken
Short ahh episodes man
@@jonathan6591 They’re sick, makes sense to me.
@@dontbother7355 It was just a joke lmao
@@jonathan6591 I wasn’t offended.
Japan Diddys beat hurt before and some diddy took game5 to hurt recently too. I think MU bad but gavin can play better against snake