I've got this very stove for about three months now. The alcohol that remains unused after a burn, I let it cool a bit and goes straight back into the bottle via a really small plastic funnel that I carry in the canvas pouch. No big deal. Regarding the pointed pieces, I done away with the annoying bag and put it in a small cardboard box of precise dimensions.
Got this last year! Went on a few winter hikes and works great. Used the lid as a preheat plate on the coldest days. Combine this with the Fire Maple Petrel cup and it's a quick and efficient combo
Thanks Dr. Ernie. This is I my best alcohol stove. A siphon stove that is quick to prime with a built in stand, easy to retrieve fuel from, and works well with small diameter pots. The distance to the bottom of a pot is perfect (a bit over an inch). It is my most effient in boiling with the least amount of fuel. Hey, plus it looks like a moon lander.
My last stove count was 20 stoves, home built, bought, wood, charcoal, gas, alcohol and solid fuel…Ernie, I was beginning to feel a little obsessive…until I heard you say, “50”. Smiling. I really appreciate your stove videos, saves me money, most of the time. 😂. Thanks from an old vet, retired in the hills of east Tennessee.
I agree with the noise issue. I stepped outside the house after a storm knocked out power in the neighborhood recently. It was amazing how quiet it was compared to when all the machinations of living are running. As far as my favorite alcohol burner, I still like my Trangia. The one I use is from Firebox which they added a solder to the seam so it never leaks. I like being able to swap it to different stands, anything from my Firebox Nano or 5”, to a canteen cup stove stand.
My name is Natty and I'm powerless over alcohol stoves. I used the cat can stove for many years, and then switched to a variation of this titanium stove that has no lid, and fewer pokey bits sticking out. I can fit a wind screen and a 120ml fuel bottle inside the stove. And I've boiled 1.2l of water to make lunch for 4. Fantastic type of stove. Very stable, light, compact, fast, quiet. Close to the perfect stove for me.
Hi! I’d like to recommend my new alcohol stove, which I recently bought from AE. It’s the jet copper coil alcohol stove. While it takes about 9-10 minutes to boil a cup of water, it’s very efficient. It is a little bit noisy and not quiet as anothers alcohol stoves.I even made a small windshield for it from a beer can. The design is quite similar to the Tektoba coil model.
Thanks for another good thoughtful review. I have around 25 different camping stoves. It just occurred to me that I am dangerously close to stove addiction. Thanks for all your stove videos!
I have regular medication that comes in little brown plastic bottles. These bottles are leakproof and hold just enough alcohol to boil enough water for a decent coffee. I’ve left alcohol in them for over two months on test, with no leakage or material degradation, so they are perfect for taking camping, for pre-calibrated fuel - no wastage or need to pour excess fuel back into a bottle.
Hey Ernie, nice vid, thanks for putting it out. Personally, I prefer to just bring a 1oz measuring cup and put in the exact amount of alcohol I need for a boil, and let it burn out completely. I find it easier to administer the fuel consumption this way instead of storing leftover alcohol in the burner, or having to pour it back into the bottle. This is mainly because I can only find 95% alcohol, not 100%. So the 95 burns hot and clean clean but there is still a 5% water content in it, and as the alcohol part burns out it leaves a higher concentration of water in the burner.
Thanks for another great video Doc! It’s been nearly 10 years, wow the time has flown by. This is a good little stove at a good price. I’m a Trangia fan but I may have to pick up this one. Thanks again.
WOW, this stove has went up in price to right now, today, 10/12/24, $29.99. Can you all imagine how much more it will cost in a few weeks??? A nice looking stove for sure, but that price is out of my price range for sure. Thanks for the great video and we do enjoy these about different stoves for sure.
I think I'm gonna get one of these. The cons aren't really cons for me. I'll just put it inside my toaks pot to keep it from poking holes in anything. I also don't need a long burning time. This seems ideal for my needs at a great price.
Yeah again I have bought some really good stoves for emergencies and camping with your recommendations. I love what you’ve done in your career of these videos. Personal information on what to watch about stoves. And purchase prices. Still can’t find very many old Coleman squat stoves (that’s what we called them in the military). You know once a person does good analysis and a review on a product people buy them up. But my 533 does a great job. Just had to buy more generators. But work well when power was out to cook and heat large pots of water. For the coffee and tea I used the small pocket liquid stoves as to not waste fuel. Dude to me your a godsend and you are still one of my top go to guys for advice. Sincerely SEMPER FI
You mentioned snow melting, as it's getting closer to that season I am pondering over some of those canister stove with the preheat pipe instead of a whisperlite...
Yes Ernie I agree that 18$USD is unheard of for something made from titanium. However, it is a copy of Tetkoba's "Capillary Hoop Stove" or CHS that he made out of soda cans! Including the "tornado" vortex flame effect and the 3 folding legs So alternatively to spending money people could check out Tetkoba's channel and DIY their own CHS. Cheers.
I love you saw the hummingbird and your reflections on sound. A few vids back I heard a couple of summer tanagers making a racket in the background. I meant to write you about listening for that but got busy. One of my favorite sounds of summer. They are all red birds (not cardinals) but you rarely get a full view of them. Enjoy your work.
Hello Ernie. I think this one has a lot to offer. Lord knows that there are plenty out there to choose from. Thanks for doing the testing so that we can make a more informed decision.
I love the quiet of alcohol stoves and always backpack with one. The only problem for me might be the added height for the windscreen with the stove raised up a bit. Saying that, having the bottom of the stove raised off a flammable surface would be big plus.
Hey Ernie. I've been watching your videos for many years now. You are my go-to UA-camr when it comes to stoves. I've always enjoyed your music when you are boiling water. I've often found that tune randomly popping into my head, but I gotta say that this new music is very relaxing and sounds somewhat familiar. I really like it. That stove looks cool and I'd even consider buying one, but I just love my Trangia! Sure it's heavy, but as Dave Canterbury would say, "It's bombproof". I live by the old K.I.S S. rule. Fewer moving parts means fewer problems. The damned thing just works and it works well! Thanks for all of your great videos over the years. :)
👍👍👍 .. a nice-looking little burner and at a very good price. 'Cons' .. I would keep it in a hard wall plastic container / similar and would have no issue with returning the unused fuel back into the fuel bottle. My first Alcohol Burner was a 'Whitebox' Stove which I got back in the latter 2000's. I still use it .. mainly with (and stored in) a Trangia-Clone Aluminium Kettle, together with a 150ml black Anodized Aluminium Cup w folding handles (to inter alia, snuff the burner .. try blowing out the flame .. good luck to you, and to facilitate the pouring of unused fuel back into the fuel bottle). It generates a fierce heat .. is better suited to wider-base pots and is only really good to boil water or rapidly heat up already cooked food (the latter with plenty stirring and with a long handle spoon) but serves it's purpose well. Would I buy the Tomshoo? No .. but only because I have moved onto making my own little burners, in all shapes and sizes, from detritus salvaged during my walks with the Pooch. A good share .. thanks. Take care ..
I am glad I watched your video as I assumed the legs were removable. I just ordered a (slightly cheaper) similiar stove but without the legs and lid, instead it comes with a cross stand made by (their sister company?) Tomshoo.
Many national parks only allow stoves with an on/off valve so alcohol stoves aren’t allowed. I wonder if the lid would qualify as a valve because it extinguishes the flame?
I also have a lot of stoves, many are ones you found. I don’t quite have a he problem you have, but close😊 I like this one, definitely getting it. Oh, I got the heat sink titanium pot you reviewed in the mail today. Thanks for doing the legwork for me 😄
I have the Kuvik version of this stove (which is the identical stove under different branding). It works reasonably well with the Fire-Maple 600ml G3 Petrel Pot. Not super spectacularly, but fairly respectably - boiling 2 cups of water in just over 5 minutes, using about 0.85 oz of HEET fuel at a 75F ambient temperature. The tripod stand on my Kuvik stove arrived with near perfect triangular alignment, and consequently fits the slots in the Fire-Maple pot very nicely - At least very nicely, once it is in place. Unfortunately, just like EVERY other compatible 3-Arm stove I have that fits the slots on the G3 Petrel Pot, getting it settled into position is always a bit fiddly. So far, I have been able to get the pot in place smoothly and safely without too much trouble, but it bares mentioning that extra caution is in order since hooking and snagging a support arm, and knocking over the stove while full of burning fuel, would obviously be a horrible disaster. On the positive side, once in place in the three slots of the G3 Petrel Pot, everything becomes super stable with no wobble or side to side play whatsoever, so long as the three support legs of the stove are on solid level ground. Because the flame of the stove flows directly up into the pots heat exchanger opening, the setup is more wind resistant than an unprotected alcohol stove - but still needs help under windy conditions (like a scrap of aluminum foil, or nearby backpack). Frankly though, I was just a bit disappointed in the overall performance.which isn't all that impressive given the hype surrounding the Petrel's "heat exchanger". I can do just about as well with any wide shallow standard flat-bottom titanium pan paired with a good windscreen. Don't get me wrong, this stove is about as perfectly matched as you are likely to find ANY alcohol stove will be when working with the G3 Petrel Pot... It's just that given the so-so performance of the Petrel's heat-exchanger, the fiddlyness of it's 3-way support, and the tip-over safety concerns, if someone has the option, I would much more highly recommend that you go with something like one of the Trail Designs Caldera Cone options (paired with your favorite low cost titanium pot). You will find that the Caldera Cone options are MUCH lighter, are MUCH more fuel efficient, have MUCH better wind resistance, and, especially when paired with the Trail Designs Kojin stove, are MUCH SAFER (about 100 TIMES SAFER). This is because the Caldera Cone designs spread your pot support over a much wider, much more stable area, and their Kojin stove has a nearly spill proof absorptive wick design.
50?!? Ernie! Lol I'd probably have that many of a lot of different things if I could just afford it. Lol Such as lanterns, wood stoves, mess kits, different packs and pouches, etc...
I guess If you were on a multi day hike you could fill it up in the evening and use up what is left in it in the morning. Or if you were just multiday camping you could have it filled and do not worry if there is more fuel in it than you need at that particular moment.
Hi Ernie how's Bert? I love alcohol stoves 😍 but... I don't get to try the stove out because I feel completely compelled to use the fuel in a proper way... glug glug glug ah yes I now feel far better.
I share your passion for alcohol stoves definitely the simplicity and the silence are a draw for me. Also in practice I find they cook faster than gas with basic cooking pots and pans ❤
The frame on the outside of the stove makes for awkward storage although it may fit inside some taller pots. As with any alcohol stoveI it will require a windscreen outside. I prefer to use an alcohol stove with a triangle stand.
Ernie I know you love the Hiking stoves but can you please show a stove that can be used for proper cooking say fish or a breakfast, I also love the Alcohol stoves but also like to go fishing with my 2 adult sons now there is a big problem for me the stoves are to small, so please can you show one.
You really should say, "One _FLUID_ ounce." One ounce of methanol by weight is 37.5 fl oz. Pretty much only water is 1:1 for weight to volume. I have a few of these siphon stoves of different designs that I handmade from Tetkoba's videos, and they are my go-to favorites. I can see how this factory-made stove with built-in pot stand could be very handy. Maybe it's time to break down and purchase my very first alcohol stove? Amazon has a similar one by Boundless Voyage ...
Under the name HUIOP - $24 with out lid and $31 with lid. This was on October 12, on Amazon. In the photos it shows Tomshoo as the name on the stove. (I searched for "Tomshoo alcohol stove" and had to scroll through several pages to find them.)
I almost bought a stove yesterday but the alcohol is stupid expensive in the uk .5 pounds for a litre. I could buy 35 litres and get down to 2 per litre.
It can function as a lid to snuff out the flames, yes, but it is a tray for burning solid fuel tablets (and you are showing it with the wrong side up then)
Update. The Amazon link you have took me to a Kuvik stove that looks just like this one but costs $29.99. At that price I'll pass. Where did you get it for $18 ?
Extra fuel issue - wouldn't you pour it back into your container, like a Trangia. Or...now hear me out on this....let it burn out. Not really an issue. Need some windshield/wind blocking material, so the lower cost of the stove is most definitely a plus. I am relatively new to the "alcohol stove" genre, due to using the old pressurized fuel stoves in the past (civian and military - with the pump), so I am not experienced in this variety of stoves. I have the SilverAnt stove and windscreen combo.....and a cheap aluminum Trangia clone with a cheap stand (from Amazon)....and a Trangia (brass) that I coupled with a Firebox G2 (stainless, couldn't afford the titanium model at that time). I also take an extremely light (some are Chinese titanium or thin-gauged stainless) wood-burning take-apart, "flat" stove on outings, just in case (not a fan of all of the soot that needs to be cleaned up off of the receptacle used with burning wood), but we usually use it as an impromptu "campfire" when we lived in Chicago (due to all of the restrictions on bonfires and such, with the possibility of embers catching other peoples' homes on fire - not really an issue now that we live in a rural area, and still follow safe fires protocol/procedures/standards, just using logs instead of twigs and branches). Keep up the great work !!! Love seeing the different alcohol stoves. Will probably buy this stove, and use either a Tupperware container or create a travel case from a thin-gauge pvc pipe (with appropriate end caps), that may fit other equipment in with that stove. Thank you !!!
Very heavy for simple siphon stove the venerable toaks siphon stove with a pot stand weighs 50% less And the flame pattern is basic - the goshawk is much better with a focusses swirling flame Eg Goshawk Siphon + X stand + Toaks 0.05mm foil windshield = 44g
what i always found funny is that all hikers think that titanium hiking stuff is top tier because its thin and has great thermal conductivity. in reality titanium sucks for thermal conductivity, just like stainless steel. the fact is that all the titanium magic expensive gear is actually made from like 80% aluminum, just like those expensive iphones, which is a great conductor of heat. dont believe me put hcl in it or sodium hydroxide, both will have a lot of trouble attacking titanium, but will eat thru aluminum. thats why they can make "titanium" stuff so cheap, its basically just cheap aluminum lol
I think the space between the stove and the bottom of the pot is too large.Why did you change your mind about that criticism? Do these siphon stoves need more space?
Is this the same dimensions as the Lixada siphon stove? I'd like to pick up a lid for mine and I've seen these with the lid available for purchase separately. I've found the siphon stoves work best with a larger distance to the pot so I think the stand is appropriately sized. I like the idea of the built in stand but I think the execution is poor with the external frame creating an awkward/sharp shape especially given it comes with a non-padded bag.
When you buy something that should cost 50-60$ for 18$ you know the material is not what they say and the person involved in the manufacturing are not adults doing a good days work and money that can support living.
What's the fire risk if this burner attached to a relatively narrow base with a relatively heavy pot were to be knocked over? Most of the others come to mind the stand is wider and/or the stove not attached to the stand. I have the Toaks Siphon I place within either their wide 4-sides stand, or a Triangle which is fairly wide, or most things Trangia are wide base.
Have you ever tried just eating pemmican on a hike since you're a paleohiker? I would call you a stove-reviewing hiker rather than paleohiker, based on your content
"Hello, my name's Ernie, and I'm addicted to alcohol, stoves" 🤣
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"Hello, my name's Ernie and I'm an alcohol stove-ic"
“Hi Ernie”
I've got this very stove for about three months now. The alcohol that remains unused after a burn, I let it cool a bit and goes straight back into the bottle via a really small plastic funnel that I carry in the canvas pouch. No big deal. Regarding the pointed pieces, I done away with the annoying bag and put it in a small cardboard box of precise dimensions.
The larger volume makes this a good stove to keep in the kitchen for power outages.
Got this last year! Went on a few winter hikes and works great. Used the lid as a preheat plate on the coldest days. Combine this with the Fire Maple Petrel cup and it's a quick and efficient combo
Thanks Dr. Ernie. This is I my best alcohol stove. A siphon stove that is quick to prime with a built in stand, easy to retrieve fuel from, and works well with small diameter pots. The distance to the bottom of a pot is perfect (a bit over an inch). It is my most effient in boiling with the least amount of fuel. Hey, plus it looks like a moon lander.
My last stove count was 20 stoves, home built, bought, wood, charcoal, gas, alcohol and solid fuel…Ernie, I was beginning to feel a little obsessive…until I heard you say, “50”. Smiling. I really appreciate your stove videos, saves me money, most of the time. 😂. Thanks from an old vet, retired in the hills of east Tennessee.
I agree with the noise issue. I stepped outside the house after a storm knocked out power in the neighborhood recently. It was amazing how quiet it was compared to when all the machinations of living are running. As far as my favorite alcohol burner, I still like my Trangia. The one I use is from Firebox which they added a solder to the seam so it never leaks. I like being able to swap it to different stands, anything from my Firebox Nano or 5”, to a canteen cup stove stand.
My name is Natty and I'm powerless over alcohol stoves. I used the cat can stove for many years, and then switched to a variation of this titanium stove that has no lid, and fewer pokey bits sticking out. I can fit a wind screen and a 120ml fuel bottle inside the stove. And I've boiled 1.2l of water to make lunch for 4.
Fantastic type of stove. Very stable, light, compact, fast, quiet. Close to the perfect stove for me.
Hi! I’d like to recommend my new alcohol stove, which I recently bought from AE. It’s the jet copper coil alcohol stove. While it takes about 9-10 minutes to boil a cup of water, it’s very efficient. It is a little bit noisy and not quiet as anothers alcohol stoves.I even made a small windshield for it from a beer can. The design is quite similar to the Tektoba coil model.
Surprised to see that you didn’t try using lid as a way to use solid fuel like Esbit.
Maybe try and see?
It would be nice if it came with a bottle that fit in the middle to hold the alcohol
Thanks for another good thoughtful review. I have around 25 different camping stoves. It just occurred to me that I am dangerously close to stove addiction. Thanks for all your stove videos!
I have regular medication that comes in little brown plastic bottles. These bottles are leakproof and hold just enough alcohol to boil enough water for a decent coffee. I’ve left alcohol in them for over two months on test, with no leakage or material degradation, so they are perfect for taking camping, for pre-calibrated fuel - no wastage or need to pour excess fuel back into a bottle.
At Amazon right now it's renamed Kuvik $30 without lid. Thanks for the review.
Hey Ernie, nice vid, thanks for putting it out. Personally, I prefer to just bring a 1oz measuring cup and put in the exact amount of alcohol I need for a boil, and let it burn out completely. I find it easier to administer the fuel consumption this way instead of storing leftover alcohol in the burner, or having to pour it back into the bottle. This is mainly because I can only find 95% alcohol, not 100%. So the 95 burns hot and clean clean but there is still a 5% water content in it, and as the alcohol part burns out it leaves a higher concentration of water in the burner.
Thanks for another great video Doc! It’s been nearly 10 years, wow the time has flown by. This is a good little stove at a good price. I’m a Trangia fan but I may have to pick up this one. Thanks again.
WOW, this stove has went up in price to right now, today, 10/12/24, $29.99. Can you all imagine how much more it will cost in a few weeks???
A nice looking stove for sure, but that price is out of my price range for sure.
Thanks for the great video and we do enjoy these about different stoves for sure.
I love the liquid fuel stoves myself. The roar is nostalgic. Plus you have the flexibility and energy security.
I think I'm gonna get one of these. The cons aren't really cons for me. I'll just put it inside my toaks pot to keep it from poking holes in anything. I also don't need a long burning time. This seems ideal for my needs at a great price.
Great video with a pretty cool stove. Improvement of the carrying case would be a huge upgrade for this product although it could drive up the cost.
Yeah again I have bought some really good stoves for emergencies and camping with your recommendations. I love what you’ve done in your career of these videos. Personal information on what to watch about stoves. And purchase prices. Still can’t find very many old Coleman squat stoves (that’s what we called them in the military). You know once a person does good analysis and a review on a product people buy them up. But my 533 does a great job. Just had to buy more generators. But work well when power was out to cook and heat large pots of water. For the coffee and tea I used the small pocket liquid stoves as to not waste fuel. Dude to me your a godsend and you are still one of my top go to guys for advice.
Sincerely
SEMPER FI
From the UK. I have one or those and it is fantastic, my best alcohol stove.
You mentioned snow melting, as it's getting closer to that season I am pondering over some of those canister stove with the preheat pipe instead of a whisperlite...
Yes Ernie I agree that 18$USD is unheard of for something made from titanium. However, it is a copy of Tetkoba's "Capillary Hoop Stove" or CHS that he made out of soda cans! Including the "tornado" vortex flame effect and the 3 folding legs So alternatively to spending money people could check out Tetkoba's channel and DIY their own CHS. Cheers.
What a cool looking alcohol stove. I just had to get myself one off of AliExpress, it was the last one. LOL Thanks Ernie.
I love you saw the hummingbird and your reflections on sound. A few vids back I heard a couple of summer tanagers making a racket in the background. I meant to write you about listening for that but got busy. One of my favorite sounds of summer. They are all red birds (not cardinals) but you rarely get a full view of them. Enjoy your work.
Hello Ernie. I think this one has a lot to offer. Lord knows that there are plenty out there to choose from. Thanks for doing the testing so that we can make a more informed decision.
Looks like a good design. I may get one for fun
I love the quiet of alcohol stoves and always backpack with one. The only problem for me might be the added height for the windscreen with the stove raised up a bit. Saying that, having the bottom of the stove raised off a flammable surface would be big plus.
Sweet little stove Ernie. It will be added as number 76 to my alcohol stoves.
Thank you
Hey Ernie. I've been watching your videos for many years now. You are my go-to UA-camr when it comes to stoves. I've always enjoyed your music when you are boiling water. I've often found that tune randomly popping into my head, but I gotta say that this new music is very relaxing and sounds somewhat familiar. I really like it.
That stove looks cool and I'd even consider buying one, but I just love my Trangia! Sure it's heavy, but as Dave Canterbury would say, "It's bombproof". I live by the old K.I.S S. rule. Fewer moving parts means fewer problems. The damned thing just works and it works well!
Thanks for all of your great videos over the years. :)
👍👍👍 .. a nice-looking little burner and at a very good price.
'Cons' .. I would keep it in a hard wall plastic container / similar and would have no issue with returning the unused fuel back into the fuel bottle.
My first Alcohol Burner was a 'Whitebox' Stove which I got back in the latter 2000's. I still use it .. mainly with (and stored in) a Trangia-Clone Aluminium Kettle, together with a 150ml black Anodized Aluminium Cup w folding handles (to inter alia, snuff the burner .. try blowing out the flame .. good luck to you, and to facilitate the pouring of unused fuel back into the fuel bottle).
It generates a fierce heat .. is better suited to wider-base pots and is only really good to boil water or rapidly heat up already cooked food (the latter with plenty stirring and with a long handle spoon) but serves it's purpose well.
Would I buy the Tomshoo? No .. but only because I have moved onto making my own little burners, in all shapes and sizes, from detritus salvaged during my walks with the Pooch.
A good share .. thanks. Take care ..
I am glad I watched your video as I assumed the legs were removable. I just ordered a (slightly cheaper) similiar stove but without the legs and lid, instead it comes with a cross stand made by (their sister company?) Tomshoo.
Many national parks only allow stoves with an on/off valve so alcohol stoves aren’t allowed. I wonder if the lid would qualify as a valve because it extinguishes the flame?
I also have a lot of stoves, many are ones you found. I don’t quite have a he problem you have, but close😊
I like this one, definitely getting it.
Oh, I got the heat sink titanium pot you reviewed in the mail today. Thanks for doing the legwork for me 😄
I’m curious as to the distance between the top of the stove to the bottom of the pot. Did you get a measurement?
Nice vid, nice stove. No wind protection though. Also lid doesn’t have simmer.
Used the provided link, $30 now.
Hi, i really love to watch your videos. Have you ever seen or tested an alcohol stove called Fire Beast5? Could be something for you!
Would it also work as a tiny stick stove? Maybe using alcohol to start it ?
Thanks Doc!
Is there a titanium option for the Trangia? Or is the mass of the Trangia Spirit Burner one of the keys to it's success?
Thanks for another great review of a cool product! It would be interesting to see how it works with the Fire Maple Petrel pot.
I have the Kuvik version of this stove (which is the identical stove under different branding). It works reasonably well with the Fire-Maple 600ml G3 Petrel Pot. Not super spectacularly, but fairly respectably - boiling 2 cups of water in just over 5 minutes, using about 0.85 oz of HEET fuel at a 75F ambient temperature. The tripod stand on my Kuvik stove arrived with near perfect triangular alignment, and consequently fits the slots in the Fire-Maple pot very nicely - At least very nicely, once it is in place. Unfortunately, just like EVERY other compatible 3-Arm stove I have that fits the slots on the G3 Petrel Pot, getting it settled into position is always a bit fiddly.
So far, I have been able to get the pot in place smoothly and safely without too much trouble, but it bares mentioning that extra caution is in order since hooking and snagging a support arm, and knocking over the stove while full of burning fuel, would obviously be a horrible disaster. On the positive side, once in place in the three slots of the G3 Petrel Pot, everything becomes super stable with no wobble or side to side play whatsoever, so long as the three support legs of the stove are on solid level ground.
Because the flame of the stove flows directly up into the pots heat exchanger opening, the setup is more wind resistant than an unprotected alcohol stove - but still needs help under windy conditions (like a scrap of aluminum foil, or nearby backpack). Frankly though, I was just a bit disappointed in the overall performance.which isn't all that impressive given the hype surrounding the Petrel's "heat exchanger". I can do just about as well with any wide shallow standard flat-bottom titanium pan paired with a good windscreen.
Don't get me wrong, this stove is about as perfectly matched as you are likely to find ANY alcohol stove will be when working with the G3 Petrel Pot... It's just that given the so-so performance of the Petrel's heat-exchanger, the fiddlyness of it's 3-way support, and the tip-over safety concerns, if someone has the option, I would much more highly recommend that you go with something like one of the Trail Designs Caldera Cone options (paired with your favorite low cost titanium pot). You will find that the Caldera Cone options are MUCH lighter, are MUCH more fuel efficient, have MUCH better wind resistance, and, especially when paired with the Trail Designs Kojin stove, are MUCH SAFER (about 100 TIMES SAFER). This is because the Caldera Cone designs spread your pot support over a much wider, much more stable area, and their Kojin stove has a nearly spill proof absorptive wick design.
50?!? Ernie! Lol I'd probably have that many of a lot of different things if I could just afford it. Lol Such as lanterns, wood stoves, mess kits, different packs and pouches, etc...
I guess If you were on a multi day hike you could fill it up in the evening and use up what is left in it in the morning. Or if you were just multiday camping you could have it filled and do not worry if there is more fuel in it than you need at that particular moment.
Do you think the lid is sturdy enough to use for solid fuel??
I would not mind pouring some alcohol back into the container, although that does partially depend on the kind of container is used.
Hello, do the 3 prongs fit the Firemaple petrol pot?
It does! Great combo
Do the supports fit the new fire maple g3 pot?
Do the pot supports interface with the Fire Maple Petrel pot you recently reviewed?
@@ruairidhalexander7631 That's is very interesting question if they are compatible.
Hi, please make try this stove with - Fire Maple Petrel G3 UL Pot. Is it fit there 🤔 and will it work ?
Hi Ernie how's Bert? I love alcohol stoves 😍 but... I don't get to try the stove out because I feel completely compelled to use the fuel in a proper way... glug glug glug ah yes I now feel far better.
Perfect for my icefishing shack fill it up,boil, put lid on and ready to boil for the next time
I share your passion for alcohol stoves definitely the simplicity and the silence are a draw for me. Also in practice I find they cook faster than gas with basic cooking pots and pans ❤
The frame on the outside of the stove makes for awkward storage although it may fit inside some taller pots. As with any alcohol stoveI it will require a windscreen outside. I prefer to use an alcohol stove with a triangle stand.
Does it fit inside a Toaks pot?
What is the smallest cup/pot that fits safely on the pot support?
What is the smallest pot/cup that the stove will fit inside?
Hi Ernie any thoughts on selling the first generation pathfinder alcohol stove from self reliance outfitters?! From Washington State 👍🏿💯❤️🇺🇸
I carry a small collapsible funnel, so I don't mind pouring excess alcohol back into the HEET bottle.
Whats your inpression of these self pressurizing alcohol stoves? I saw some on Aliexpress, they look pretty cool.
Ernie I know you love the Hiking stoves but can you please show a stove that can be used for proper cooking say fish or a breakfast, I also love the Alcohol stoves but also like to go fishing with my 2 adult sons now there is a big problem for me the stoves are to small, so please can you show one.
You really should say, "One _FLUID_ ounce." One ounce of methanol by weight is 37.5 fl oz. Pretty much only water is 1:1 for weight to volume.
I have a few of these siphon stoves of different designs that I handmade from Tetkoba's videos, and they are my go-to favorites. I can see how this factory-made stove with built-in pot stand could be very handy. Maybe it's time to break down and purchase my very first alcohol stove? Amazon has a similar one by Boundless Voyage ...
+ 1 for "I watched Tetkoba's channel then I made one".
The price is right.
I much prefer a screw top with seal so the stove can store fuel.
Not new.... but yes, it is cool, one of the best stoves
29.99 now on Amazon
Came here to say this. Almost double the price.
Under the name HUIOP - $24 with out lid and $31 with lid. This was on October 12, on Amazon. In the photos it shows Tomshoo as the name on the stove. (I searched for "Tomshoo alcohol stove" and had to scroll through several pages to find them.)
I almost bought a stove yesterday but the alcohol is stupid expensive in the uk .5 pounds for a litre.
I could buy 35 litres and get down to 2 per litre.
Went to get it the day after you released this. It's. 29.99 now. 🤣
It can function as a lid to snuff out the flames, yes, but it is a tray for burning solid fuel tablets (and you are showing it with the wrong side up then)
I bought one last year, but I didn't get a lid
Update. The Amazon link you have took me to a Kuvik stove that looks just like this one but costs $29.99. At that price I'll pass. Where did you get it for $18 ?
I'd prefer a stove with watertight screw on lid.
Extra fuel issue - wouldn't you pour it back into your container, like a Trangia.
Or...now hear me out on this....let it burn out.
Not really an issue.
Need some windshield/wind blocking material, so the lower cost of the stove is most definitely a plus.
I am relatively new to the "alcohol stove" genre, due to using the old pressurized fuel stoves in the past (civian and military - with the pump), so I am not experienced in this variety of stoves.
I have the SilverAnt stove and windscreen combo.....and a cheap aluminum Trangia clone with a cheap stand (from Amazon)....and a Trangia (brass) that I coupled with a Firebox G2 (stainless, couldn't afford the titanium model at that time).
I also take an extremely light (some are Chinese titanium or thin-gauged stainless) wood-burning take-apart, "flat" stove on outings, just in case (not a fan of all of the soot that needs to be cleaned up off of the receptacle used with burning wood), but we usually use it as an impromptu "campfire" when we lived in Chicago (due to all of the restrictions on bonfires and such, with the possibility of embers catching other peoples' homes on fire - not really an issue now that we live in a rural area, and still follow safe fires protocol/procedures/standards, just using logs instead of twigs and branches).
Keep up the great work !!!
Love seeing the different alcohol stoves.
Will probably buy this stove, and use either a Tupperware container or create a travel case from a thin-gauge pvc pipe (with appropriate end caps), that may fit other equipment in with that stove.
Thank you !!!
Very heavy for simple siphon stove
the venerable toaks siphon stove with a pot stand weighs 50% less
And the flame pattern is basic - the goshawk is much better with a focusses swirling flame
Eg Goshawk Siphon + X stand + Toaks 0.05mm foil windshield = 44g
With all the alcohol stove, I always use a ziplock plastic container.
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Why would you not want to put the fuel back into the container?
what i always found funny is that all hikers think that titanium hiking stuff is top tier because its thin and has great thermal conductivity. in reality titanium sucks for thermal conductivity, just like stainless steel. the fact is that all the titanium magic expensive gear is actually made from like 80% aluminum, just like those expensive iphones, which is a great conductor of heat. dont believe me put hcl in it or sodium hydroxide, both will have a lot of trouble attacking titanium, but will eat thru aluminum. thats why they can make "titanium" stuff so cheap, its basically just cheap aluminum lol
I think the space between the stove and the bottom of the pot is too large.Why did you change your mind about that criticism? Do these siphon stoves need more space?
Would you buy a Titanium Mountain-bike frame from the old ALI-X??? That question is haunting me right now.....
Your Amazon link says $30.
I just got it for $6.69 Canadian on aliexpress… including shipping.. I mean come on, how could I not buy it?????
I think you just ordered the lid only 🤣
I'm not one to dump fuel back into a narrow bottle container..
I just checked Aliexpress...$6.00 Australian. Probably $4.00 US
Just for the lid 😂
On Amazon the lid by itself is $10 US, so a much better deal on Aliexpress.
$30 on Amazon
Is this the same dimensions as the Lixada siphon stove? I'd like to pick up a lid for mine and I've seen these with the lid available for purchase separately.
I've found the siphon stoves work best with a larger distance to the pot so I think the stand is appropriately sized. I like the idea of the built in stand but I think the execution is poor with the external frame creating an awkward/sharp shape especially given it comes with a non-padded bag.
When you buy something that should cost 50-60$ for 18$ you know the material is not what they say and the person involved in the manufacturing are not adults doing a good days work and money that can support living.
What's the fire risk if this burner attached to a relatively narrow base with a relatively heavy pot were to be knocked over? Most of the others come to mind the stand is wider and/or the stove not attached to the stand. I have the Toaks Siphon I place within either their wide 4-sides stand, or a Triangle which is fairly wide, or most things Trangia are wide base.
Have you ever tried just eating pemmican on a hike since you're a paleohiker? I would call you a stove-reviewing hiker rather than paleohiker, based on your content
No, just no.
is there or every been a drain valve for the extra capacity alcohol stoves, spouts or such to easily put back into containers?