Tandem Vs 1 | Are 2 Riders On A Tandem Faster Than 1 Roadie?
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2021
- Tandem Bicycles are fantastic inventions. They're great tools for allowing cyclists of differing abilities to ride together, they can be more sociable than riding a regular road bike, and they allow visually impaired and para riders to cycle outside safely. In this video, GCN+'s Johnathan Schubert and Ollie 'Dropped' Bridgewood take to the tandem and challenge Conor to a race. Who will win? You'll have to watch to find out!
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Who do you think will win the race? The Tandem or the Roadie?
Ollie. He devised a way to win a race for himself.
tandem... no question
The average power on the Tandem whould have been interesting.
On a straight course the tandem will win. It would take a smoother paceline than we've seen to have any chance with 2X.
Time trial vs tandem
waiting patiently for the Si on a TT, Connor and Alex in a road train, Mannon in a recumbent, Jeremy on a fixie, Johnathan and Ollie on a tandem and Hank on a tricycle, race... With Dan on a e-unicycle.
No, no, there would be nothing left for GCN that could be awesomer than that race. They'd have to shut up shop afterwards.
I think you forgot Hank's dad on an unrestricted e-bike!
Don't forget Freddie and Hank's dad.
YES
That sounds like the greatest race ever.
Now GCN needs to start looking for a 4-person tandem
They make an 8 rider bike. It’s out there when you look for multiple rider bikes.
🤔 Good idea...
Back when GCN had only 3 presenters we were promised a 3 person tandem hour record attempt.
Or a tandem recumbent
@@Kimberly_Sparkles surely this could be a far more entertaining TTT at the TdF???????
"Finally I've won a race!" Technically Oli came across the line second! 🤣🤣
Hahahaha
My wife and I ride a tandem. I'm a strong rider and I tend to ride fast. When we're on our individual road bikes, even though she's a strong rider, she can't keep up with me so I have to either ride at her pace or repeatedly wait for her to catch up. The tandem solves this problem. If you enjoy riding with the one you love, a tandem is a great way to do it.
@@ThroughGrace88 maybe loose weight. The bikes don't deserve to be put through such horrendous conditions
What's y'all top speed on the tandem?
@@shinobusensui9395 It’s hard to generalize. On the flat with no wind our speed might be the average of when we are apart. Climbing, we’re slower. Downhill we’ve gone well over 50.
I once road with a blind stoker who was very strong and we were very fast. It was definitely fun. But really, tandeming isn’t about speed. It’s about togetherness.
Tandem time : 9:36
Video length : 9:36
I see what you did there, GCN
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I really like Ollie, he has the perfect blend of meticulous/serious/jokester/geek and the ability to not take himself too seriously that keeps him feeling real and relatable.
I clicked on this video faster than ollie got dropped.
The bike broke in half?!?
that must have been really, really, REALLY fast, then! ;-)
This takes a bit effort.
Should we really put Ollie and fast in the same sentence? 🤔
🤣🤣
finally found a configuration in which ollie could not get dropped
Can, but involves wrecking the bike in most scenarios.
@@ytwos1 valid point
Your bike is too small for you
@@Systematicsphere they told me size doesn t matters
Ollie, "It does not feel like I am riding into a headwind" and then the curry that John ate kicks in
This video should inspire a new GCN T-shirt.
"My tandem has Dura-Ace."
Ours has di2
A new bike discipline! The Tandem Time Trial!
@@japmkam you guys rule! We are still shifting with 105 and bar ends!!
I've done a 150km race with tandems in it. We were in the front group of about 30, but I along with the guys on the tandem got dropped on the 2nd to last pinch/power climb. Luckily I jumped on the back and they towed me the last 10 or so km's to the next steep power climb within reach of the leading bunch. I said thanks a lot fellas and easily left them behind up the short steep section where their weight countered against them. After it flattened out with about 1.5km to go I heard this whoosh whoosh whoosh behind me(these were big powerful guys at max wattage), and they came past me like a train. I tried to jump on the back but they were way too quick - more like a car going past- and left me for dead!
As a tandem guy, this is too common. Yeah on the flats its great to slip behind us. However climbing is just a pain. Just make sure to leave a lane for the tandem to pass on downhill. If you wish to be nice, toss the tandem team a beer after the race, we do appreciate it. :)
@@ResilientTim Yup! We ride tandems too! #tandemadventurers
Connor sounded super deadpan ; “you just can’t get dropped on this one Ollie”
Ha! That was a cracking Jackson Five joke, nice one =)
Bob is my favorite Jackson.
No wait. This one's better. Bob Jackson was their uncle.
John is great in front of the camera. I hope he comes back for more videos here on the main GCN!
What a fantastic presenter Ollie is! Conor is great to! Love that video!
when u feel alone and useless remember the tandem front
derailleur
haha, maybe it helps keep the chain on?
@@Daniel-ng8fi Yes probably just serving as a chain catcher. I don't see a cable attached to it.
"3, 2, 1, shift!"
This year’s presenter challenge needs to be the whole team (including Dan) on tandems…with randomly assigned partners. And one team has to use the side-by-side we saw in hack/bodge.
Build a 5 man bike and make them roadtrip all together
As a stoker, I love this so much. MORE 👏 TANDEM 👏 CONTENT 👏 PLEASE!
Great idea from the slow ride pod: It's time to launch a regular segment where a pro is captain and Ollie is stoker and Ollie interviews the pro while the pro takes him for a scary fast ride.
09:00 "I did over 400 watts there...-Ollies winning laughter hehe
My favourite tandem is "Janus" (back to back) recumbent. It has really good aero characteristics but the stoker faces backwards.
Yes to the rematch. More of that Bob Jackson tandem please. What a machine. Piloting a tandem well requires particular technique, skill and concentration, not to mention good communication with the stoker. Try one on open roads. Worthy of its own GCN Tech video.
More of the tandem to come!
"Need to nail this corner now"
Misses the apex.....
I actually really enjoyed this video, good job chaps.
The editing on this is fire. Great content, as per usual.
Great content. That is what I wanted to know for decades.
That was easy, I ride with a tandem team at times as a friend is blind and that's the only way he can go out obviously. If I drop out of the draft I can't keep up at all, I'll be doing over 300w and they will be doing maybe 200w each. Sure is fun when you do get in that draft though
That's so cool that you can ride a tandem while blind
@@brreeaad you can ride a tandem without any arms or legs. just need a ratchet strap
Nice tandem! I've build my own tandem based on 3 old scrap citybikes and a scrap mountainbike that I litteraly pulled out of a bin. I went on biking holliday with my girlfriend who had a lot less pace than me. I was able to build it with approx 150 euros and we did almost 1600km near the rivers Rhine and Moselle with all our camping gear on the tandem in 10 days.
I love my tandem. Always fun to ride, but sometimes hard to find a riding partner since I split with my ex. I found out about the speed of tandems back in my younger days on a large, organized ride. We were bombing along in a large draft pack when we heard 'On your left.' A group of about 25-30 tandems rolled by us like we were standing still. Years later, when I could afford a nice one, I picked up a gently used one from my shop. We upgraded it with the latest goodies from Shimano and I've enjoyed it ever since. Looking forward to some more tandem vids.
Epic! Would like to see it in race form rather than time. Really liking your content.
yeeeeei! I love these videos haha. Hilarious all the jokes about Ollie being dropped, never gets old xD
Incredible video thank you so much. Tandem Bike is also an excellent way for blind and visually impaired people to be able to get out and enjoy riding a bike. I love this video
next: tandem vs tt vs recumbent vs Hank'sdad on tank.
Bring on Hank's dad on ebike aka Tandem-ninator
I ride a recumbent tandem with the pedals 90 degrees out of phase . Very easy style and the more even torque I find better for hill climbing.
Love it! Come on, admit it, the dropped jokes are passé, Ollie even with a hangover is a weapon!
I'm not a cyclist but I was gripped! Great video and a big surprise at the end.
Love the tandem content, folks!!!
Disqualified for the inward brake lever positioning. Naughty.
What about the no bar tape, I hope there is bar end plugs put in, that is deadly in a crash otherwise.
Are inward brake levers banned. Please tell me
Anxious to see Jonathan and Ollie on the tandem vs Conor and Simon in a two-up TT!
Credit to the person who put the money behind making this video. Very interesting and original. More of this please.
Can't wait for the next video!
Connor has to come back and win. He can get back 20s.
Team Jollie vs “Team” Jolly. This isn’t even a pun, Oliver.
Looking forward for the rematch, great job guys :)
Tandems are super fun, take my son to school on one. Would love to see more professional tandem racing, sure there is the road race in the Paralympic Games but I would like to see a Paris Nice stage race with Tandems. Crosswinds, sprints, climbs, the whole lot.
Team time trial in a stage race. Time is taken from the third tandem to cross the line.
Is it harder to balance on a tandem?
@@derekwilliams6188 I ride a tandem with my wife. Although we can't balance while we wait at a traffic light, we can creep along at one or two mph with no problem.
@@MrTeff999 is it faster than traditional bike?
@@derekwilliams6188 If two people of the same ability were riding, a tandem would be faster than either one of them alone -- except when climbing where aerodynamics is less of a factor. On the other hand, if you have two people of different abilities, the stronger rider will be slower and the weaker rider will be faster than if they were on their own bikes.
Why ride a tandem if it's not faster? It's all about togetherness.
A word about weight: A good quality touring tandem will weigh less than 40 pounds. A high quality racing tandem can weigh as little as 24 pounds. Divide those number by two.
comment before viewing. i went with a buddy on a tandem camping trip. about 100 miles each way. loaded with gear/tent and a slight tailwind we were coming back at nearly 30 mph for a LONG time. huge power
Somehow i still think that ollie could get dropped even in a tandem. His getting dropped skills is legendary
another great series of videos
Why is this not a 90 minute special on gcn+? Brilliant
Good the see the great 'Bob Jackson' cycles on GCN
Pinnacle of comedy with that Jackson 5 joke!
Wow...this is exciting. Wonder how 2 vs tandem will turn out.
Great video. Can we just take a moment to say what a work of art Bob Jackson bikes are. They are some of the nicest steel frames out there.
I would also be interested to see how a tandem fairs over a long ride in the real world when compared to a small group on road bikes.
It all depends on the terrain. If flat, the tandem will lead the train the entire ride. If hilly, the tandem will almost certainly suffer badly.
That said, the same road ride on a tandem is more taxing. It's explained by the additional mass and inertial. Every increase in output by one rider is met with far more resistance. This tends to wear the riders out faster.
@@dudeonbike800 Re: "more taxing". My wife and I ride a tandem. The biggest determinant is the skill levels and teamwork of the captain and stoker. In our case, yes, I work harder on the tandem than I do I my road bike. I'm a strong rider and I tend to ride fast. When we're on our individual road bikes, she can't keep up with me so I have to either ride at her pace or repeatedly wait for her to catch up. If you enjoy riding with the one you love, a tandem is a great way to do it.
@@MrTeff999 Agree. I'm lucky to have a stoker who's half my weight, so she's easy to move around, track stand, and climb the gnar. Plus, she trusts me (probably not a good idea!). This is a plus as we've road and mountain tandemed for 28 years without a crash (knock on wood/head). Our crowning achievement was getting up and around the Whiskeydrunk Cycles Whiskeydrome. That was a blast and the year my stoker turned 50. Oh yeah!
Funny the timing of this video, just the other day I was wondering about 2 vs tandem
Put Conner on an aero time trial bike and see how he does!
Tandem team would have done better if Johnathan had worn his glasses on the outside of his helmet straps like a pro...🧐😎
Great video guys!
By far the best cycle show. ❤️
GREAT CLIP...... though not wanting to throw cold water over Ollie's glee. My girlfriend and I have a Trek tandem and it is easy for us to hit 60km... at which point I have to say I do hear a shout in my ear.... "SLOW DOWN....SLOW DOWN!" so I am surprised how slow Ollie and Jonhathan were... really... However it is murder going up mountains! (we live in Andorra). I competed in the national championships here with a friend who lost an arm in a car accident. Training for the championship gave him his first introduction to cycling. He loved it! We came second!
Can't wait for 2 vs Tandem!
Two versus tandem sounds genuinely interesting.
Goes to show, disc brakes make you faster 😂
Durianrider has joined the chat.
Lol i was doing chores in the house when i saw the notification!! Suddenly i was watching the video and I don’t even remember what happened with the chores 😂
Interesting video even if I knew the answer before I saw the video.
A bike for 2 persons get 2 persons power but not the air resistance of 2 riders on each bike. Therefore 2 riders of similar performance rides faster on a tandem than they do alone on each bike.
But if you put a pro cyclist together with a bad cyclist it may go slower than the pro cyclist alone on a normal bike but faster than the bad cyclist on a normal bike.
2 pro riders together produce more than 1 hp continiously. Then 4 pro riders will produce more than 2 hp. Imagine a 4-tandem, that would be cool to see!
Awesome tandem! 🤙
Imagine if Ollie would have fallen off and got ”dropped”😂. Congrats Dr. Bridgewood for winning a race👏👍🍾🥂
What a beautiful and funny tandem bike! I want it!
Sweet video. I can't wait for Two vs. Tandem! Can you share the average race car time on that track(5x)?
2 v Tandem. Can’t wait!!!
ITS COMING!
Now we just need uci to alow tandems in the tour 😁
I ride tandems, so much fun can be had on them. On the flats they can be fast, slow uphill and can be totally bonkers fast on the descent.
Where were the aero helmets for all 3 of them? This was a time trial!
holy **** that tandem is bonkers XD
I wish you guy will do a "TT vs Tandem for 30km". Fingers crossed 👍
Tandems can also be set up in a TT configuration, so not really any point as this current video was basically an apples to apples set up comparison already.
@@bryanboldt887 oki doki
Awesome Video!!
Nice, a proper bike. Steel , and no disc brakes.🔥👍👍
Great video, looking forward to a rematch!
Two pros slipstreaming vs tandem should be good!
"Just try not to fall off the back mate" ... LMAO
Ohhhh guys I am already so hyped for the rematch! :D
*ALSO* I wanna know how big a tandem can get until there is no advantage anymore! I think a tandem for four people you might find on the market but then go further and build a customized one for five cyclists and should you still beat your time then go on with a custom tandem for six! :D
Imagine how large this might become!
Would love to see the power numbers of the tandem riders... next time please set the tandem with powermeter pedals to add some more technical analysis to the race!!!
Can you do Hank and Hank's dad on the tandem VS Ollie? That's the race we need
The Bob Jackson tandem being steel reminds me that English Cycles makes some weird-looking steel TT bikes. Might be neat for you guys to showcase them - or maybe on GCN tech?
That Reynolds 853 and the extra lateral, that is a beast of a frame! Love my 853 road bike, that is one fine road machine.
I once saw a tandem when I was with my mtb, you know damn well I asked for a race, surprisingly fast not gonna lie!
Imagine two gannas on a tandem!!!🤗
Unstoppable!
That bike change would take forever :o
The world isn't ready for this!
That's how you implode the universe
the power of two !! after taking out a tandem rental mountain bike made by rocky mt. cycles we 👫(both experienced mt. bikers) had a blast just make sure you both anticipate the upcoming corners as your speed is shockingly fast. if you don't the bike and yourselves will just go straight off the road/trail. 🤣😵💫
Good job!!
It would be very interesting this test with pedals powermeter im the tandem.
My wife and I have tried many sports together, but the one that has been most successful is riding a tandem bike, because we can each ride at our own effort level. All we have to agree on is cadence, which is just fine.
Tandems are slower than singles on climbs, but boy do they fly downhill!
Very nice of GCN to prevent Ollie from getting dropped by welding his bike to Hank‘s!
Ollie is such a good sport!
Tandem vs 2 roadies pleaseeee! We really want it
That was a lot of fun to watch! I'm curious how much effort Ollie felt he had to put out while riding behind Johnathan?
Good fun that!
Yay Ollie!!! Congratulations!!! 🎉🎉🎉
the synchronized pedaling is quite mesmerizing to watch
2 vs tandem will be nice!
Rematch yes!
Ollie says he finally won...
Not so fast, he was second behind the guy in front of him😁. Simon's turn on the TT bike to go against the tandem. Great stuff GCN!
That cameraman who filmed them riding is next level
Would be great to see a head to head on real country roads, with climbs and descents etc over 25-30 miles.