My heart literally broke watching this video. It was really hard to sit through, but burying one’s head in the sand doesn’t mean it’s not happening. Thank you for advocating against animal cruelty.🖤
Nature is brutal and sometime live feeding is needed. However, we have a way to humanely kill food before it gets fed. Like the gator... You know darn well that gator would have happily eaten those animals if they were dead already! It's our responsibility as the human to make sure none of the animals suffer needlessly.
For example, the Mink Man does live hunts ... but it's mostly a fair fight. He has his minks hunt for muskrats and rats (invasive species and destroying the ecosystem) in a natural setting. It's a real predator / prey setting without any confinements. The prey has the opportunity to escape. And it takes hours for the mink man to get a successful or unsuccessful hunt. That's fair game. However, I don't see any reason to video a live bunny being eaten by a gator in a incredibly confined space. That's needless cruelty for clicks. Do it off camera if the animal won't eat dead meat.
All nerd knows how to do is make sub par content and bash anyone and everyone else don't know if it's all Kevin but this channel has dive bombed since this dumb A camera dude came along
Agree with Piteus, nature is brutal but if we had to kill an animal, the most humane way the best way. When we trapped rats around the house and had to kill them…we let it go in an open field and let my dogs kills them. I found this was the quickest way to kill them. It’s only takes a second. The other suggestion we had was horrendous to us…drown, use hot water, whack, poison ….ugggh. Of course keeping cats…got rid most of my rats problem. 😆😆😆
No it is not in the majority of cases… somehow in the US you have 98% of live fed reptiles in captivity…. And why is that? Cause you neglect to teach your reptiles f/t feeding even though it’s safer and less cruel for everyone involved… there is no need to feed a CB reptile live in fact here (uk, Europe in general), we don’t do that, we’ll instead analyse why our snake won’t eat atm instead of throwing things at it
I hate live feeding videos. They promote the stereotype that all reptile keepers want is watch rodents die. I'm tired of getting looked at like a dangerous deviant when I tell people I have pet reptiles. I wish UA-cam would ban live feeding videos entirely. There is no educational value in them, only sadism and cruelty.
@@rosyclown I would have to disagree and say the opposite is true. Most people don't think people with pet snakes worship Satan, though I'm sure some of the more religiously zealous believe that. Far more often they just think snake keepers like watching mice die. Snake keepers are viewed as deviants or juvenile delinquents. I remember the looks my relative gave me when I said I wanted a pet snake. One of my aunts even pulled my mother aside and told her to keep an eye on her cats around me because she thought I wanted to watch something cute and furry suffer. The stigma has to do with live feeding rather than assumptions of Devil worship.
they'd have to ban NERD then too, because they live fed a king cobra that took a very long time for the snake they fed to it to die, they made the same justification but tried to moral grandstand by saying "we're live feeding, but we don't like it" It's pure hypocrisy. They've said they have to live feed some snakes, because they won't eat frozen thawed... they just don't "record it" as if though that changes anything.
@@ExarchGaming Live feeding because you have to is very different from live feeding because you enjoy it. The first is an unpleasant necessity engaged in to prevent the animal you're caring for from starving to death. The second is cruelty merely for your own amusement. There is no reason other than sadism to live feed if your pet will take pre-killed food. Live feeding videos only make the reptile keeping community look bad. We get enough bad publicity as it is without providing more material ourselves.
@@GreasusGoldtooth No one is forced to watch it though. most of these guys stay in their own lane and don't bother other people, they just feed their animals and a couple I do know look at it in a very educational way. yes some of the viewers are psychopaths. I remember seeing one comment about this dude loving it when the rat starts screaming, and both me and the channel owner were like wtf dude you're a psychopath.
@@ExarchGaming People who engage in dog fighting also "stay in their own lane" but that's not excusable either. Live feeding should not be done for entertainment. No exceptions.
I feel like these videos are being made cause they are getting more views then the normal reptile content which is sad. I'm not a fan of this drama content and I feel it reflects badly on NERD as a company. I agree if you want to talk about reptile drama it doesn't belong on this channel.
The only way these videos work to create millions of views is if they be people being called out react!! And they probably won’t because the facts are there and it is what it is !
It's definitely getting more views. And it's left to interpretation and I'm no artist nor do I have an eye for anything but Who What Where When and why ???? So many questions
@@-cMc- lol true. Bashing people making people look bad negative people like this stuff. Nerd isn't the best UA-cam video I was into nerd when they showed there stuff. Do you remember when nerd was light hearted and fun Kevin showing his monark butterflies and babie reticulated pythons and fun stuff. Then donny was like hey let's show snakes that have butt holes coming out of them oh wait some egg bound stuff oh and don't forget the reptile channel that actually needed to end Then after that it's like people liked the end of the reptile channel I'm target more. Then it's just for views not about animals getting people to be like yeah let's be angry about something
As someone who lives by deep rooted morals and loyalty I don't understand why people have a problem with calling out psychos and fakers involved in cruelty. All will be judged by their intentions, asllong as they're good don't be afraid to stand up for what's right.
I bought animals from Kevin at NERD over 20 years ago and even then it was obvious that he was one of the good guys in the industry. That's why NERD has been able to be as successful and loved as they are.
A few years ago I was upset and had a bad image of snakes because of a GIF that people posted of a large snake (burm / retic / anaconda, etc.) eating a puppy. Now that I own snakes of my own I really respect the work Kevin, Donny, and NERD are doing. I used to have pet rats so I think it is the proper thing to do to respect the lives of all creatures even if they are prey for another animal we keep as pets.
And having both pet rats and pet snakes is totally OK! We are not monsters, if we have to live feed our snakes it's because we have no other solutions and they HAVE to eat. I don't enjoy doing this, but I HAVE to for the sake of their health. 🥰🙂
@@Melane89 totally, I don't have the room currently to keep rodents in an efficient way, and I am fortunate enough that I have a small collection of snakes that are all eating F/T. I hope I can be so lucky for it to always be that way, but I know eventually there are some individuals that will only eat live. I also don't have the tools or will to euthanize rodents myself, although I know it is more economic once you reach a certain amount of snakes.
Lol glad you grew out of that childish mentality. To resent an animal for doing what it does is absurd. Animals are not sentimental, they just need to eat and don’t care how we feel about cute puppies.
Kevin has class. I am sick of these petty mean videos being put out by Donny. He is dragging down the good reputation that Kevin has taken a long time to build. I will not watch another one of these hatchet job videos. NERD used to be better than this. So Sad!!!!
Have to agree with the majority here. Kind of tired of Donnys take over of the channel. Bring back Kevin, limit Donny or take away some of his control.
That's a good idea. Limit Donny or take his voice away. Be a camera guy. stay in your lane Donny. Your not a reptile person you've said it over and over again.
I feel like Donny takes advantage of Kevin and gets in his ear because Kevin is a reptile guy and a business man. Kevin is really good at both of those things but social media not so much. That's why Donny even has a job.
“You’ve got some growing up to do man.” Says the 30 something year old using his boss’s channel to start unnecessary drama. Kevin please stop letting this man tarnish your name.
Don’t b a hypocrite in Order for u to have heard that u were interested he didn’t say that til later in the video if somebody came at u wrong more than likely ur goin to respond make this make sense
@@jxstified7558 I think he's just spreading awareness, not just trying to slander them. I mean he calls them dumb (in his own words, I think he was smart with the wording) still but why not lol? Why be against it? He speaks of the heinous things they do publicly in a professional tone as far as I can see. And if anything it's doing more good than harm for the reptile community. Also how many times has the government tried to ban things they were uneducated/misinformed on, other than reptiles, and the law actually passing? More than enough times, and I can think of a few examples... and these channels definitely contributed to them trying to ban reptiles if not adding fuel to the fire by drops
@@galacticnerd3243 no, he’s doing it for attention… animals too but mostly himself, just listen to his fucking voice and the overly done editing with that character of himself ofc… this was like his wet dream come true because he probably wasn’t cool in high school
@@alexv1190 I think you just hate it when others talk about people just because they're talking about people. Which usually makes sense, right? Except these people are genuinely horrible so why bother complain? I'd talk as if I hated them too if they used their animals in such a neglectful manner to get views. If anyone here's hating for no good reason it's y'all
Donny is slowly making NERD be remembered as the drama channel instead of the guys that know a lot about reptiles that people look up to. Instead of doing dumb things like this he should be focusing more energy into using NERD's influence to reach out to people about U.S. Ark and stopping the lacey act amendments. If that passes, all of this is gone including his ability to make these kinds of videos because reptile keeping won't EXIST!
Dint understand how you guys say that. Donny is just bringing awareness to the situation. Yrs their has to be live feedings and yes it is nature. But why not throw a dog or a cat into the cage. They will eat that. Or heres a better one next time we all go to the zoo let's throw a horse in the lion cage and watch what happens because that to is just nature. I'm glad Donny showed me that because I unsubscribed right away to his channel.
I counted 5 total definite "drama" videos, and 4 additional possible ones in the last year. I'm new here, haven't watched all of em, but even if all of em are, that doesn't sound like Donny turning this into a "drama channel", and it sure wasn't how I found it.
Agree with what has been said about Donnie getting his own channel for these types of videos. When one constantly talks bad about others it says a lot about how that person feels about themselves. It also destroys authority.
Let’s get something straight here guys, Donny is not the bad guy and if that’s what you enjoy is some asshole torture feeding animals than move along you won’t be missed!!!!
Right and does any one remember the videos not to long ago of him making the pythons lunge put of the cage and fall towards the ground seems hypocritical .
@@bradkerr1977 I personally come to this channel to learn about reptiles from Kevin. I would not of even known that other channel existed if these videos were not posted. I do not agree with putting videos of animals killing other animals outside of something like Nat Geo. What I said has nothing to do with what some other person post onto UA-cam. It was about the constant behavior of Donnie. With all of the negativity Donnie is making it so others will not hear the message of conservation. He makes it so I would not send my children to this channel to learn about reptiles. Leaders build/lift others up and I would consider Kevin to be a leader in the reptile community. From a leader I would expect the higher road to be taken and not let something outside of oneself (words of others) upset them to posting something like this. We lead by example! A quick way to figure out what kind a person someone is - ask them a question about others. Is their answer going to be positive or negative? It shows us where they live internally. Negativity and talking poorly about others destroys one authority and turns people off. It is opposite of being a role model.
Chandler’s content wasn’t my cup to begin with but I don’t sub to this channel for this. There are ways to make videos like this that are informative and constructive… this isn’t. It was sad. I’m here for Kevin but this other dude and his way of communicating his opinions? Nah…
i agree 100% @DONNYRAPTURE just loves stirring up s***! THIS IS MERELY JUST TO BASH OTHERS THATS IT .. its amazing every time there is a vid of someone in the industry bashing someone, somehow its DONNY THE CAMERA GUY. I dislike this very much and to think Kevin would allow him to post this.. over and over....I cant support them..
Seriously, Kevin is cool but this Donnie guy that runs the UA-cam channel is petty, snide, and overly moralizing. Chandler's clearly upset with Kevin/NERD as a whole over what their UA-cam guy is doing.
Yikes, I’m out until NERD reevaluates their social media. Clickfarming is one thing (understandable, you’re trying to run business), but between reposting old content, constant discord plugs, and these hit pieces it’s clear that clickfarming has become the priority over quality content, education, and entertainment.
the channel is dying, Kevin's heart just isn't in it anymore after Lillith died. they're struggling to break 20k views, so drama like this gets a lot more clicks. I'm going to assume Donnie gets paid for doing the social media, based on how much it earns since he controls it all, it would make sense why he, a non reptile keeper keeps trying to cancel actual venomous keepers, because he thinks because he has a boss that knows some shit that he's got that cred.
@@DerricksReptiles Right???? They always talk about working together to protect the reptile community, but instead they weaponize their community to go after other reptile keepers that don't uphold some level of purity that they themselves don't uphold. Then they have the balls to complain about cancel culture, when they're the primary community that tries to cancel people.
Dude no this shit needs to be called out and psychos like this need to be exposed. If people accept it and keep supporting them well that’s on them but getting truth out is never childish and being open with your opinion of said truth is honesty. It’s weird how truth and honesty seems childish to you.
ahahhahahahah that was him it thought it was this channel ... And the python feeding a few months ago teasing the animals with food thinking it was hilarious
He fed a live corn snake to his cobra and that snake was alive when the cobra was biting it and it took a very long time for the cobra to actually start eating it. I let it slide bc he doesn't do that often if ever and and then he's mostly educational
I thought this Channel was about reptile knowledge? Not some drama show now this editor needs to be let go I’ve watched multiple streams and he is by far the worst part of the streams or videos.
@@Enchantedfawn4357 fr it makes Kevin and everyone at nerd look bad and I know everyone else is passionate but this dude just wants to spin the narrative and make other channels looks bad.
Live feeding is sometimes necessary, glorification of death and torturing animals is not. I understand that raising awareness of these horrible Channels and inappropriate content is important, but I’d really appreciate some more long format videos focusing of the reptiles at NERD instead of this and the constant shorts. I miss hearing Kevin discuss reptile behaviours, and actual informative content and seeing the well kept and beautiful reptiles at NERD rather than seeing juvenile animal torturers getting more publicity through these ones.
@@blackmonday738That's kind of a dumb response. Someone's talking about live feeding animals. And you're talking about feeding your kids live food. You sound like an idiot. Whether you're being serious or not.
Theyve done one or 2 videos, in which they made it extremely clear that this was intended only to illustrate the process of weaning an animal off live food, and that it makes them sad every time they see it. If you cant see the difference between that, and live feeding animals UNNECESSARILY and dedicating an entire channel to bunny death matches, you are simply an idiot or lying.
Man I used to love Nerd. Tired of this drama bullshit to chase views. Never again giving you guys a view. Hopefully one day you will get your content back in line.
Dude they are just as guilty of the stuff they are criticizing by putting that content on their channel. Hardcore disappointed in this channel for this...
Why? Hes not the one that did it to begin with! He’s just trying to bring awareness to it all while being Transparent. If he hadn’t at least showed that quick millisecond of it then there will be people out there calling him a liar. You can’t make everyone happy, there’s always going to be someone complaining about something but at least he got his point across 🤷♀️. Thank you NERD for all that you do! ❤️
@@willyjgonzalez6560 would you prefer they bring attention to these channels without showing any proof in the process, forcing people to have to click on links to the original videos in order to make their informed opinions, giving views and therefore ad revenue to these sickos in the process?
I feel really bad for Kevin because he seems like such a genuine, fun person who just wants to talk to other people in the hobby and be friends. Meanwhile Donny is obviously a clout chaser. I mean he said himself that his favorite reptile is a cobra because ''it gets you the most views''. I hate that man and I wish he'd just make his own channel already and leave NERD out of all of this..
Donny definitely has problems but you cant lie that this channel has brought attention to needed issues among other channels, personally i dont support live feed videos to “these” extends, live feeding itself is not the problem, it depends on how humanely its handled
@@MonsterZeroLITE For sure but there's a better way of doing this than having the majority of the video being about how a 24 year old doesn't wanna be friends with your boss...
@@MonsterZeroLITE so you’re saying showing a channel of 3k followers live feeding and then posting the content on a channel with 290k and bashing a channel of 1.7 million they probably just gave that little channel a bunch of views and actually did the opposite of what they were trying to accomplish
Also as a heads up those messages 100% come off as condescending or telling someone what to do. Maybe try just being friendly before assuming and people will react to messages differently
Alright - time for some tough love. This channel used to be primarily about education about reptiles. You have let someone who is an outsider to this community come in and basically railroad the content to something completely unrelated all for the sake of growing the channel. Donny is doing what you're paying him to do, but he's doing it at the cost of your reputation. Please create a new channel for this kind of stuff and leave it off the main channel. Put Donny back behind the camera and put the focus back where it belongs. On the animals.
I don't really understand where you are coming from with this. This is totally about the animals and how they are being mistreated and the way they are glorifying killing of animals. I do understand some animals will only eat live feedings. But what he's showing here is how they are making like a game of it. Also he's educating us in what is bad and good with live feeding.
@@billh1491 If that's what you're seeing, ok. But it's not what I saw. What I saw is a UA-cam channel using a particularly hotbutton issue like "live feeding videos" as a mechanism to push and pull views from a larger UA-cam channels audience. That's what I saw. I saw a reality TV tactic used on a Reptile Education Channel I enjoy.
@@billh1491 might have more impact if NERD wasn't also guilty of this. They have a live feeding video of a king cobra eating a rat snake. Yeah, they say they don't enjoy it and it's for education purposes but at the end of the day they still filmed and watched another animal die for the entertainment and views. Don't get me wrong I like NERD and have nothing but respect for Kevin, but this is about clout, nothing more.
I was really saddened at how petty all this bickering is. I could go watch James Charles for the same bullshit. I adore NERD but this video just didn't feel like the amazing content and education that I look forward to.
%10000 yes and I’m not gonna try and change you’re mind but think about this when you scroll through these comments are you commenting this same question on the people with the same opinions as me about what Donny is doing here this is not just the simple fact that he is pointing out what people in a group are doing wrong and how we can fix it no he is point out who is doing wrong and who to stop watching and giving reasons on why you should watch nerd instead because we don’t like that you can talk about these things and tell people why they are bad without calling people by there names putting there channel in the dirt to make yours look better when nerd seriously has a video that is titled live feeding this cobra we don’t like it though like okay if you didn’t like it and don’t want to show it why post it and keep the video up at the same time as putting peoples names and faces out there that they are doing wrong and talk crap about them it is embarrassing tbh and it’s truly sad that you don’t understand that talking about the group of live feeding and how that’s bad it would do a lot more good than to talk about 2 or 3 people in particular because there channels get more attention doing things that they don’t approve of now gtfo of here you don’t like my comment keep scrolling it wasn’t for you it was for donny so stick it where the sun don’t shine
@@kubestraragaven4872 just keep thinking that Donny isn’t picking people out to talk bad about instead of picking a subject like live feeding to talk about we can all learn that it is bad without knowing who the bad people are let people figure that out for themselves don’t talk bad about people and make people think they are bad because they do things you don’t approve of that are totally legal and natural
@@kubestraragaven4872 and before you claim that I am one of those people I feed f/t and I don’t condone recording live feeding but beyond that it makes me even more upset for someone to use someone else mistakes and wrongs to make themselves look good that is slandering people and that is wrong talk about live feeding not who is live feeding
This drama/thirsting for likes is gross. I hope Kevin sees this and tightens the reins on his channel. NERD has a real opportunity to put out a high quality informational content that people would actually tune into. Kevin if you're reading these comments please consider just doing weekly uploads showing us what you guys are up to at NERD. That's what we are all here for in the first place
yes, but that video was mainly "educational" and to show what happens when something is envenomated etc. Also the countless number of warnings and saying "please don't feed live, always feed frozen etc" was pointed out through the video. The cobra in that video as refused to eat live and that is the ONLY live feeding video I've ever seen come from NERD and that was almost 2 years ago now. There are channels torturing and playing with their feeder animals daily and have been for years, i think that's much worse than a one time deal 2 years ago.
Obviously the message went over your head, you get off on watching the animals being killed? You posting videos saying. Crocadilian brutally kills rabbit? If you don't understand then your comprehension skills are lacking.
@@defuniqueetc.9145 he said nothing about supporting inhumane live feedings. All they said was that Donnie brings negativity and throws shade where he could probably get more people to agree with his point if he didn't seem so petty sounding.
@@defuniqueetc.9145 live feedings are a thing because certain reptiles don't like their food already being dead and won't eat it. recording a live feeding though..that's a whole different thing. Yes it's educational but not something that people would be okay with seeing.
Fire Donnie? Why because he has integrity and holds others accountable when he finds hypocrisy in their actions. Good on Donnie and if you don't see what he doing then you're probably the type of person that would end up in the cross hairs. Js
@@nvorg1 wtf are you talking about they are literally doing the same , Kevin once said he doesn't like painting his animals in a bad light. yet he literally doing the same. Doesn't understand the word double standard.i can't believe Kevin integrity is gone cause of Donnie it's sad
@@_Moonlight92 how do you or this dude from NERD know that's ALL he did? Just because that's all we see? In the Tiny % of Chandlers life he films? You actually have no idea what was done behind the scenes. Speaking on it is ignorant
@@Specogecko He put what his patreon was in the video. If we can't do the extra step in actually typing then I gotta call out the laziness. On the other side of the coin for convenience, I don't see why he didn't link it when he went through the effort in putting it in the video and shining some light on it.
@@RN-on4yn so if these live feeding videos just say FoR EdUcAtIoNaL PuRpUsoSeS a bunch of times then they are all good right?? looking real hypocritical now..Donny DID learn something from The Reptile Channel!
Id like to see more of Kevin advocating and educating and less donny bashing the other youtube channels. Ive read alot of the comments and looks like donny is loosing kevin followers by the droves. Not good. Live feeding sucks for sure and ya some animals wont eat frozen. And yes posting videos as click bait is low but it happens. Everyone is aware. Move on and continue to do the things the channel was started for. Get donny off his high horse
Please stop chasing the "drama" in the reptile community, it's really turned me off this channel. I love hearing Kevin educate us about what can be improved in animal husbandry and share genuinely interesting and educational content. But focusing on the drama and making these sorts of videos is such a turn off on the whole hobby. You're doing yourselves a disservice and undermining the whole profession. What a shame.
I honestly think it's by far the other way around. What the reptile community does by sharing live fed videos is doing a disservice to the profession. I've said it time and time again. If you get off from watching animals suffer you shouldn't own any animals. I get it. It happens in nature but it's one thing to film feeding habits out in nature and throwing a live rabbit to a gator in your living room. I just love the excuse "well my gator won't eat f/t" yeah ok 👌. And it's one thing to feed live if they won't take frozen thawed. That's fine but don't film like some sadistic torture video and spread your perversions on UA-cam
@@Mrvalentino555 Feeding animals in captivity has nothing to do with "mother nature" The animals we keep don't have to hunt/kill to survive. And we have the option to not let prey animals suffer like they would do in the wild. That's why so many animals are feed pre-killed or frozen-thawed.
@@RebekahVenom maybe not to you but to other people thats how they feed their animals. I personally wouldn't do it but theres no reason to berate people that do
@@Mrvalentino555 I’m not berating people for live feeding. If you read my comment all I said was I think it’s twisted that they are making videos of it.
I have now stopped following this channel I love watching Kevin as he is very educational but due to some of his workers/media creators slagging of other freindly youtube creators and being childish this channel is now toxic
I still will follow. I respect that Kevin allows independence amongst his staff members. He doesn’t try to dictate content. Kevin is so knowledgeable and humane I’ll still watch NERD.
@@analogkid4957 Donny has his own channel. Why can't he post his drama there? NERD is about the shop and snakes, people want to listen to Kevin and watch Kevin, not donny. That's the issue, donny is taking over and is obsessed with numbers, look how many times he admits he tried to get Kevin to do something because he wants more views. Kevin is still not mentally there since lilith and now donny is just posting drama, people are leaving and I am too. I love Kevin, but I cannot stand donny.
Donny, I was with you in the beginning with these videos but now I honestly feel like at some point you're going to tell me damn snake Discovery abuses their animals too. I feel like you're just on a blind crusade at this point.
Lol. Right!? It was like at first okay fair… now he’s reaching. Kevin should put a stop to it. He lets Donny just create all this content just because he knows video and editing etc but it’s hurting him big time! Time to unsubscribe
Completely agree. What we don't need are these new videos giving politicians ammo to pass these bills. This is how everyone who knows nothing about reptiles will perceive ALL of us. Donnie needs to take his own advice on the growing up tip.
Idiotic comment You just watched a video showing proof that someone supports animals being tortured... And somehow you spin it to make it seem like NERD bad is the one here?
I wish Kevin had someone anyone else to run his UA-cam. This guy makes Kevin look bad in my opinion. I seem to remember watching a live feeding from Nerd. Get off your high horse. Why is it you consistently use other UA-camrs pics or names in your thumbnails? Oh that's right it's the only way you can get people to watch the sad part is Kevin is crazy knowledgeable and gets his point across well but Jonny? Whatever his name is ruins it.
Turning into a drama channel and pinning the reptile community against one another... How about everyone stays in their lane? People don't like watching live feedings then don't watch it and move on
@@quaziskittles358 exactly stay in your lane bud. You're making Nerd look bad! Idk why he does this Kevin has plenty of knowledge for good content but this guy doing the filming and what not is about as original as Millie and vanilli. It's sad.
People who say this is just “drama”. No. The issues they are bringing up are going to effect me, as a Florida venomous and exotic keeper. I have had many of my snakes longer than I’ve had my adult children. The idea of losing the right to keep them is terrifying. The amount of laws that are changing in the recent years, directly correlated with the boom in venomous and exotic keepers making extreme UA-cam channels. They’re putting it into the faces of every person, and if they’re not putting it out there in a professional responsible way. In turn it’s making The average unknowing person, someone who might be neighbors with one of us, believe that they’re gonna have to worry about all the stuff they’re seeing. I’ve been keeping venomous for 24 years, and I’ve never had an escape or a bite. My neighbors would never know I had these animals, but now I have to be worried about keeping them.
You have a valid point. However, since Donnie posted these videos; they are actually gaining more views and followers. Some people would have never known who they were before. They have posted increased live feedings. The back and forth videos aren’t helping, they are doing it more.
@@LadytisExotics I find this Donnie dude to be petty ,snide, and sanctimonious. I think he's doing these 'call out' videos because they've been well received in the past. The first couple were okay but this is just petty.
I wish you guys (Donny) would make a separate channel for stuff like this. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you are bringing light to some of the more fucked up things going on in the hobby but man I miss the simpler days when it was just Kevin filming stuff on his phone. He would touch subjects like these without making it a huge spectacle and witch hunt each time.. I wish Donny would step back and just go back to being a cameraman or make his own channel. The way he presents stuff just leaves a really bad aftertaste. I'm also getting really tired of how he is playing down what he said like with the cobra content stuff. If I had been in Chandler's shoes I would've taken it the exact same way as he had. If you really want to touch subjects like these there's a way you can do that without specifically going after a 24 year old guy who's grandfather and dog just died and who's busy 24/7 trying to get his property built while also uploading and editing videos by himself. I really don't blame him not wanting to talk to Kevin after how much Donny has made a circus out of this channel. It really hurts me unsubscribing because this video does touch some important issues just the way its presented is so juvenile and tasteless.
Donny already has his own channel which is why it baffles me that he chooses to upload these sorts of videos to NERD's channel and potentially tarnishing Kevin's reputation. Not saying that i don't agree with some points in this video but certainly these cancel culture witch hunt style videos aren't great for the hobby, especially when the reptile Industry is looked down on as it is.
I agree. The debate is not about live feedings, at this point. Most of us agree that it is disgusting (unfortunately, it's needed in some circumstances but don't film it and stick it on Utube). The real issue being debated is Donny and how he is presenting NERD. I hardly see Kevin anymore
Donny has too much control of nerds social media and has created this channel into his own drama. I came for reptile education not this bs Personal drama. Unsubscribed.
If a mouse somehow ran into 3 baby snappers in the wild which would never happen and somehow get attacked by all three because of its own weakness genetic inferiority stupidity etc the it happens but to put a healthy smart mouse somewhere with no escape to be picked apart is not okay. That's the different
Oh dear lord. Here we go again. This stuff makes the community look so bad. Why do these people do this? This is a bummer to me to see such a big name do this.
There won't be a community if we keep making content that (to the uneducated, non reptile owning, non reptile loving public and legislators) makes us look like a bunch of cruel sadists.
Agreed, it seems Chandler's problems with NERD whether they are reasonable or not are more with what Donny said and not what NERD as a company said. I think this issue is pointless.
Well sed 2 all!! All this negative Karening is coming from cam guy, but b/c this is NERDs channel, Kevin is ultimately responsible 4 content. Kevin: If ur listening, please b a positive voice in this industry. Ditch the neg cam guy or set sum boundaries 4 him. He is really making u look bad.
My take is all of them need to stop making videos of this kind. Concentrate on the animals. Not fighting or disagreements. It makes all of you look bad. By all means address issues that relate to the hobby but not at the expense of others. Saddens me to see this.
I mean torturing animals is kinda not concentrating on the welfare of any animals. It’s also about the reputation of our hobby and doing something about those that are destroying it.
I never knew he was so immature! I just unsubscribed to Chandlers Wildlife..Public live feedings are wrong...They do make a lot of people hate reptiles. Kevin is spot on.
I can’t believe some of this stuff. Thank you for speaking out against animal cruelty. I understand live feeding and animal instincts, but putting a mouse in with snapping turtles is beyond cruel. I started watching you because I wanted help with my fear of snakes, and your videos have helped with that. I appreciate the fact you don’t film tossing in live mice.
changed the title of your video I see. you're a joke dude are you just going to attack every channel that doesn't agree with you? you get a real false sense of security and your place in the hobby Camara man. working for Kevin doesn't give you immunity and to be honest you're making him look bad and harming his brand.
I watched this to the end hoping it would recover, I am so intensely disappointed in NERD. This is just messy petty, I wouldn’t want to be your friend either.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 hopefully this is their last video like this….. they need controversy to grow they peeked as Donny said they got 60k views on this video let’s see if their next video gets 60k views 😉
I've bought a ton of snakes from NERD over the years. I won't spend one more penny with them until Donny is no longer affiliated with them. He is the worst thing that has ever happened to that once great company and Kevin is blind for not seeing it.
@@Jeffrey_L fr tho. I can't believe anyone would want to call out animal abusers for cruelty, he's such a clown for wanting other animal communities too appreciate reptiles and not see the reptile community as a bunch of psychopaths. HOW DARE HE!!
Still, I think Kevin is absolutely exceptional in all the ways that matters,his mannerism and tone comes across perfect,narrator not so much... please let it go,helps no one!
I’d like to add that I love what Kevin does and why he does it, his love for animals is very apparent and clear. He’s also incredibly knowledgeable and intelligent, because he has life experience. Xxx
@@reptilesruletheworld1311 there’s nothing wrong with housing snakes together…. And unfortunately the way he keeps is animals is the only feasible way for there to be a reptile industry like we have today. He keeps his animals healthy and understands what they need. Do they have the most ideal enclosures? No but sometimes that’s how things got to be until we figure out how to improve on things. This video literally shows what bad reptile keeping we should be focusing on
I don't know wtf is going on between all you content creators and I don't know how to react tbh, just hope you guys still do what u love and love what u do
I like your videos because they are educational, funny and you can tell how much passion Kevin and others on this channel have for reptiles etc. That being said, if I wanted to watch people fighting and bitching about each other for their differences I would watch the bachelor or love island or what ever drama is popular with people my own age these days. If you have to bitch about other people Donny, make your own channel, don’t do it on such a successful and educational channels page. You are going to lose Kevin and NERD a lot of followers.
@@skii980 not even nerd itself, its the fuckin dweeb ass camera guy😂 kevins still cool but the reptile community has always been drama, even when i was a kid. Everyones full of themselves. Honestly though, all the venomous keepers and reptile keepers in texas r all nice and great people 😂 it seems like everyone out of state r toxic and start shit.
Love Kevin, but have to unsub. I appreciate bringing attention to things, but the entire video was just insult after insult, it's drama for views. Even with the "It's to protect the hobby" skin that was lazily tossed over it. You didn't need to have the intro be clips from the videos, that's using Live Feeding for views which is exactly what you're condemning. I agree with the points made overall, but this video is using a Bigger Content Creator for views, and also using the very content the video condemns to get views, while claiming it's all to go against it. It's childish on the best of days.
No one cares if you unsub! I see your point over the drama but if someone is calling you out and your business you have to respond and stand up for yourself.
@@miguemerkinrivera2664 for someone that you say doesn’t care about subscribing sure say “ like the video and subscribe “ in every video just scrolling there are several of these comments
I tend to agree with you. He keeps showing these live feeding clips in his videos for thr shock factor to get a reaction out of people and in the same sentence condemning other people who do the exact same thing. He could have censored the clips or left them out.
It’s such a bummer to see this channel go this way when you have a beast of information like Kevin. Why does Donny have a job!!!!! Get rid of Donny!!! Unsubscribe
Donny is a clown and is also the reason I un- subscribed. He sits on a pedestal and points at everybody else with clickbait garbage. He's doing an injustice to Kevin by taking away from his knowledge being shared and helping the community. He should start his own channel if he wants to push this junk and not use NERDS fan base to muddy the water
I'm sorry things like this is happening, I really appreciate Kevin's work and care for animals and I just hope we can help get live feedings off of UA-cam. I understand live feeding is sometimes needed, but beyond educational purposes, it doesn't need to be used to gain views/likes online. Hopefully we can stop making animals look bad.
@Michael Johnson because it gives people a negative opinion about reptiles. Imagine a childs first introduction to the reptile world is a video of a monitor lizard shaking a rat to pieces , or they see a python squeezing a rabbit until its eyes pop out. Most would find it terrifying and they would think reptiles are vicious sadistic beasts . Education and conservation ! Not death for entertainment...
@Michael Johnson since you didn't think before you wrote that comment let me do it for you, the moment you take an animal out of the wild the laws of nature no longer exist
Man, I'm just hella grateful all my reptile were easy to swap over to frozen/thawed. I know reptiles need to eat AND it pains to hear/see an animal fight for its life.💚🐍
Let’s see - in the wild it happens every day. I have absolutely no issue feeding any animal I take responsibility of the necessary requirement it needs to be healthy. This being said, I have spent 49 of my 61 years trying to be an ambassador for reptiles. Showing anything that causes fear negativity sensationalism or gives fuel to animal rights groups and legislators is wrong. The content of this silly video was wrong because it also showed it 😂 let’s all do better❤
I see exactly what Nerd is saying! Yes, some animals have to be fed live, but it’s not something you should capitalize on. If that’s what draws viewers in then that says something about your content. Your trying to teach people to enjoy these animals, and that’s honestly doing nothing for the hobby.
As an aspiring biologist, I DETEST these kinds of people and their main argument that "it's just nature / it's exactly like in nature". In truth, the moment you take an animal OUT of nature, these "rules" cease to exist. We domesticated cats and dogs the same way, and I don't think we'd even have to argue anymore, that live-feeding them should be an option. And yes, reptiles can have exeptions, but as Kevin said, it's not for your viewing pleasure! Humans' prevalent innate sadismi is sadly another and maybe even bigger topic... Speciesism is real and we need you guys to try and make a change. I'm with you!
None of the videos Donny highlighted have proper live feedings with the benefits that can be given by providing enrichment, so they aren't even comparable to the wild. It is senseless torcher for 0 reason. The fact that people think these videos are reflective of nature shows how toxic they are.
There's a video Nerd posted of a live feeding with a king Cobra.. took the snake over 20 mins to die but they saw no issue posting it on UA-cam for our viewing pleasure & to make $ off it js
@@carolinapantherette4life796 Thing is. they posted ONE video of it. and that was the end. these people are posting consistently animals being fed live for entertainment. not because the animals need to eat live but because the people behind the camera want to watch the feeder animals suffer.
I like chandlers content and I am sure he may have made mistakes but we all make mistakes but I don't agree with the live feeding either and I don't think he really agrees with it also considering he doesn't live feed his animals
Their is nothing wrong with live feeding ok it’s the circle of life it keeps their natural instincts in tact and overall is natural theirs nothing wrong If you have an issue here why don’t you have an issue with the wild it’s the same animals need to eat and people need to stop being such snowflakes
Yeah I’m unsubing tbr, just because he watches and said something doesn’t align with your view on it doesn’t make him bad for the hobby… I like y’all but tbr saying his Channel peaked 3 years ago is pretty funny considering this channel has no where near the following
Totally respect Kevin but it's time to come together not attack each other sorry but I'm no longer subscribed I'm a firm believer in talking out your differences off camera and not dragging somebody else's name through the mud much respect Kevin for everything you've done in your life but these dudes making the videos for you are turning your channel into a soap opera take care wish Kevin McCurley the best luck in the world
If they don't who will? The live feeding videos are pure cruelty so why in the hell is CWL supporting it? No one else will dig into other people's favourite reptile channels, and calling someone out isn't drama it's too stop cruelty and the idea that reptile keepers are psychopaths who enjoy seeing animals suffer.
@@kubestraragaven4872 I can see where you’re coming from, I even hated feeding just live crickets when I had my reptiles. However, my perception of this channel was always about conservation, awareness, and teaching others of reptiles that we might not see everyday. I’ve learned a lot from this channel, not going to lie. However, these kinds of videos can throw someone off expecting to learn more about reptiles and conservation, rather than calling people out on things that people don’t agree with. Everyone treats and feeds their animals differently.
@@leanntaylor7478 yes but when people are giving their pet caiman a live rabbit it makes the community look bad and just cause it's their animals it doesn't mean they should exploit them for views and make prey items suffer just for fame
You may have to feed live for certain things, but you don't have to record it and post it online. NERD has exactly one live feeding video. It was also explained in the video about why they did that.
Would you say feeding frogs are one of those things? Someone tried to say that I'm a hypocrite for feeding my frogs crickets, cause I said that feeding live animals and watching them suffer wasn't ok, let alone posting it online
@@CobraRaptor It's also a question of safety. A cricket can't really hurt a frog, but an adult guinea pig can easily cause irreperable damage to even a large snake.
Exactly. And why is he bringing up Chandlers analytics? Aren't they worried about the live feeding? Bring up his views is just low. Having reptiles is a passion and has nothing to do with views.
If memory serves me correctly you did a video showing a cobra killing and eating a snake. I don't care either way, just don't throw stones in a glass house.
And they have a snake literally swallowing a frog alive on their channel to while they are smiling and enjoying their day they sit and watch a frog get eaten alive 🤔
@@Rryan8065 lol I don’t comment unless I watched it: he sounded petty and was using very shitty clip baits, and virtue signaling about dingo … this guy is a joke
Small minds discuss people; average minds discuss events; great minds discuss ideas. I don’t even like snakes and I still watch New England Reptile regularly because I appreciate Kevin’s knowledge and passion for his animals. Until tonight I believed shi**y content like this to be beneath his seemingly admirable, dare I say, honorable character. They say don’t meet your hero’s and so here lies your proof.
Donnie is known for shit like this, he thinks he's the arbiter of the entire reptile community, so he sends cancel culture attacks on everyone and everything if they do something he feels is wrong. Yet they come out as massive hypocrits, considering they STILL have a video up where they live fed a king cobra. and it wasn't fast, it took a very long time for that snake to die.
Some animals will not eat something if it isn’t alive. This is not a hard concept to grasp also this guy is making a massive double standard as many people have already pointed out
Not to mention in the first minute you put up live feeding footage why did you use the footage? I thought you were against that being posted online I guess y'all get a exception 👌
Wait, what? This is the strangest "you criticize society yet you live in it" kind of take. If they didn't, y'all would be crying that it's fake news and not that bad.
oh come on! seriously??? another youtuber I enjoyed watching is bad too??? At this point its getting harder and harder to figure out who to trust now....
I won't watch a channel that would sensationalize live feeding and I really don't watch channels that feature venomous keeping at all. Kevin might be the only exception for me, for the most part. I want to see people educate me on those animals without putting their own safety in question and/or intentionally stressing out animals to show them off.
My heart literally broke watching this video. It was really hard to sit through, but burying one’s head in the sand doesn’t mean it’s not happening. Thank you for advocating against animal cruelty.🖤
Nah those guys boiling an iguana need to be charged with animal cruelty. There’s no way you can be okay in the head and do something like that….
They weren't boiling it.
It was frozen during a winter cold snap, and they were running warm faucet water over it to thaw it out.
How is sink water Boling you need fire to boil water you need to go back to school
@@codyhellman3694yeah something’s wrong with your water heater if it’s that hot
Nature is brutal and sometime live feeding is needed. However, we have a way to humanely kill food before it gets fed. Like the gator... You know darn well that gator would have happily eaten those animals if they were dead already! It's our responsibility as the human to make sure none of the animals suffer needlessly.
For example, the Mink Man does live hunts ... but it's mostly a fair fight. He has his minks hunt for muskrats and rats (invasive species and destroying the ecosystem) in a natural setting. It's a real predator / prey setting without any confinements. The prey has the opportunity to escape. And it takes hours for the mink man to get a successful or unsuccessful hunt. That's fair game. However, I don't see any reason to video a live bunny being eaten by a gator in a incredibly confined space. That's needless cruelty for clicks. Do it off camera if the animal won't eat dead meat.
All nerd knows how to do is make sub par content and bash anyone and everyone else don't know if it's all Kevin but this channel has dive bombed since this dumb A camera dude came along
Agree with Piteus, nature is brutal but if we had to kill an animal, the most humane way the best way. When we trapped rats around the house and had to kill them…we let it go in an open field and let my dogs kills them. I found this was the quickest way to kill them. It’s only takes a second. The other suggestion we had was horrendous to us…drown, use hot water, whack, poison ….ugggh. Of course keeping cats…got rid most of my rats problem. 😆😆😆
@@piteusx8440 exactly! This is so sad I don’t understand how people can watch it. I don’t even watch it on the nature documentaries cause I feel bad.
No it is not in the majority of cases… somehow in the US you have 98% of live fed reptiles in captivity…. And why is that? Cause you neglect to teach your reptiles f/t feeding even though it’s safer and less cruel for everyone involved… there is no need to feed a CB reptile live in fact here (uk, Europe in general), we don’t do that, we’ll instead analyse why our snake won’t eat atm instead of throwing things at it
I hate live feeding videos. They promote the stereotype that all reptile keepers want is watch rodents die. I'm tired of getting looked at like a dangerous deviant when I tell people I have pet reptiles. I wish UA-cam would ban live feeding videos entirely. There is no educational value in them, only sadism and cruelty.
@@rosyclown I would have to disagree and say the opposite is true. Most people don't think people with pet snakes worship Satan, though I'm sure some of the more religiously zealous believe that. Far more often they just think snake keepers like watching mice die. Snake keepers are viewed as deviants or juvenile delinquents. I remember the looks my relative gave me when I said I wanted a pet snake. One of my aunts even pulled my mother aside and told her to keep an eye on her cats around me because she thought I wanted to watch something cute and furry suffer. The stigma has to do with live feeding rather than assumptions of Devil worship.
they'd have to ban NERD then too, because they live fed a king cobra that took a very long time for the snake they fed to it to die, they made the same justification but tried to moral grandstand by saying "we're live feeding, but we don't like it"
It's pure hypocrisy.
They've said they have to live feed some snakes, because they won't eat frozen thawed... they just don't "record it" as if though that changes anything.
@@ExarchGaming Live feeding because you have to is very different from live feeding because you enjoy it. The first is an unpleasant necessity engaged in to prevent the animal you're caring for from starving to death. The second is cruelty merely for your own amusement. There is no reason other than sadism to live feed if your pet will take pre-killed food. Live feeding videos only make the reptile keeping community look bad. We get enough bad publicity as it is without providing more material ourselves.
@@GreasusGoldtooth No one is forced to watch it though. most of these guys stay in their own lane and don't bother other people, they just feed their animals and a couple I do know look at it in a very educational way.
yes some of the viewers are psychopaths. I remember seeing one comment about this dude loving it when the rat starts screaming, and both me and the channel owner were like wtf dude you're a psychopath.
@@ExarchGaming People who engage in dog fighting also "stay in their own lane" but that's not excusable either. Live feeding should not be done for entertainment. No exceptions.
I feel like these videos are being made cause they are getting more views then the normal reptile content which is sad. I'm not a fan of this drama content and I feel it reflects badly on NERD as a company. I agree if you want to talk about reptile drama it doesn't belong on this channel.
Facts
The only way these videos work to create millions of views is if they be people being called out react!! And they probably won’t because the facts are there and it is what it is !
Agree
It's definitely getting more views. And it's left to interpretation and I'm no artist nor do I have an eye for anything but Who What Where When and why ???? So many questions
@@-cMc- lol true. Bashing people making people look bad negative people like this stuff. Nerd isn't the best UA-cam video I was into nerd when they showed there stuff. Do you remember when nerd was light hearted and fun Kevin showing his monark butterflies and babie reticulated pythons and fun stuff. Then donny was like hey let's show snakes that have butt holes coming out of them oh wait some egg bound stuff oh and don't forget the reptile channel that actually needed to end Then after that it's like people liked the end of the reptile channel I'm target more. Then it's just for views not about animals getting people to be like yeah let's be angry about something
As someone who lives by deep rooted morals and loyalty I don't understand why people have a problem with calling out psychos and fakers involved in cruelty. All will be judged by their intentions, asllong as they're good don't be afraid to stand up for what's right.
I think some people worry about being hypocritical. Maybe less certain of their moral stance on certain issues? That would be my reason:)
Can kevin make a separate channel so I don't have to watch this childish infighting crap?!
100% just made me not even wanna watch him anymore
Agreed
Just dont watch the videos then it's not for u bud
Same
@@Stackertom same here it is a shame to see this crap all over here it is really putting me off this channel
Donny needs to go before things get heated again and there seems to be a pattern here that Donny keeps getting nerd in trouble
Exactly
Didn't NERD post a live feeding of King Coba eating another live Snake!!
@@joshuavandenbergh Ikr!
On donny is going to go trust that he done ran his mouth to the wrong people
👍 totally agree
I bought animals from Kevin at NERD over 20 years ago and even then it was obvious that he was one of the good guys in the industry. That's why NERD has been able to be as successful and loved as they are.
Chandler's wildlife don't even do live feeding videos
You know so i dont even know why they on him
@@kingbaah68 right they probably hating cause he get more views than them
Yes Donnie is hating and lying . He's gonna get hurt if he keeps it up
@NattieChristopher that old video and tarantulas have to get live prey
@NattieChristopher if he enjoys it let him enjoy it animals got eat to right
A few years ago I was upset and had a bad image of snakes because of a GIF that people posted of a large snake (burm / retic / anaconda, etc.) eating a puppy. Now that I own snakes of my own I really respect the work Kevin, Donny, and NERD are doing. I used to have pet rats so I think it is the proper thing to do to respect the lives of all creatures even if they are prey for another animal we keep as pets.
And having both pet rats and pet snakes is totally OK! We are not monsters, if we have to live feed our snakes it's because we have no other solutions and they HAVE to eat. I don't enjoy doing this, but I HAVE to for the sake of their health. 🥰🙂
@@Melane89 totally, I don't have the room currently to keep rodents in an efficient way, and I am fortunate enough that I have a small collection of snakes that are all eating F/T. I hope I can be so lucky for it to always be that way, but I know eventually there are some individuals that will only eat live. I also don't have the tools or will to euthanize rodents myself, although I know it is more economic once you reach a certain amount of snakes.
Whoever did that needs to be shot in the fuckin head
@@Melane89 exactly i breed mice an have a couple rats plus mt snakes an I keep dome of the mice as legit pets not just breeders
Lol glad you grew out of that childish mentality. To resent an animal for doing what it does is absurd. Animals are not sentimental, they just need to eat and don’t care how we feel about cute puppies.
Kevin has class. I am sick of these petty mean videos being put out by Donny. He is dragging down the good reputation that Kevin has taken a long time to build. I will not watch another one of these hatchet job videos. NERD used to be better than this. So Sad!!!!
Agreed. Donny is running it into the ground.
Completely agree!
Agree.
Ya donny need to be let go from creating videos... this is brutal.
Yep
Have to agree with the majority here. Kind of tired of Donnys take over of the channel. Bring back Kevin, limit Donny or take away some of his control.
That's a good idea. Limit Donny or take his voice away. Be a camera guy. stay in your lane Donny. Your not a reptile person you've said it over and over again.
I feel like Donny takes advantage of Kevin and gets in his ear because Kevin is a reptile guy and a business man. Kevin is really good at both of those things but social media not so much. That's why Donny even has a job.
The problem is, is that Donnie is just the camera guy, but acts like he's the arbiter of all reptiles just because he works for Kevin.
Yea he on some hoe shit I can’t believe I actually thought these clowns were worth subscribing to..
@@ExarchGaming Do you think Keving doesn't approve these videos before they are uploaded? It's Kevin's business. He's in control.
“You’ve got some growing up to do man.” Says the 30 something year old using his boss’s channel to start unnecessary drama. Kevin please stop letting this man tarnish your name.
Don’t b a hypocrite in Order for u to have heard that u were interested he didn’t say that til later in the video if somebody came at u wrong more than likely ur goin to respond make this make sense
I agree this guy has done this multiple times, he has gone after a bunch of channels.
@@jxstified7558 I think he's just spreading awareness, not just trying to slander them. I mean he calls them dumb (in his own words, I think he was smart with the wording) still but why not lol? Why be against it? He speaks of the heinous things they do publicly in a professional tone as far as I can see. And if anything it's doing more good than harm for the reptile community. Also how many times has the government tried to ban things they were uneducated/misinformed on, other than reptiles, and the law actually passing? More than enough times, and I can think of a few examples... and these channels definitely contributed to them trying to ban reptiles if not adding fuel to the fire by drops
@@galacticnerd3243 no, he’s doing it for attention… animals too but mostly himself, just listen to his fucking voice and the overly done editing with that character of himself ofc… this was like his wet dream come true because he probably wasn’t cool in high school
@@alexv1190 I think you just hate it when others talk about people just because they're talking about people. Which usually makes sense, right? Except these people are genuinely horrible so why bother complain? I'd talk as if I hated them too if they used their animals in such a neglectful manner to get views. If anyone here's hating for no good reason it's y'all
Donny is slowly making NERD be remembered as the drama channel instead of the guys that know a lot about reptiles that people look up to. Instead of doing dumb things like this he should be focusing more energy into using NERD's influence to reach out to people about U.S. Ark and stopping the lacey act amendments. If that passes, all of this is gone including his ability to make these kinds of videos because reptile keeping won't EXIST!
Dint understand how you guys say that. Donny is just bringing awareness to the situation. Yrs their has to be live feedings and yes it is nature. But why not throw a dog or a cat into the cage. They will eat that. Or heres a better one next time we all go to the zoo let's throw a horse in the lion cage and watch what happens because that to is just nature. I'm glad Donny showed me that because I unsubscribed right away to his channel.
No that’s dumb, NERD is bringing awareness to the monsters lurking in this community.
Sawyer totally agree
The Lacey act Ammendments failed,it’s DEAD
I counted 5 total definite "drama" videos, and 4 additional possible ones in the last year. I'm new here, haven't watched all of em, but even if all of em are, that doesn't sound like Donny turning this into a "drama channel", and it sure wasn't how I found it.
Agree with what has been said about Donnie getting his own channel for these types of videos.
When one constantly talks bad about others it says a lot about how that person feels about themselves. It also destroys authority.
Let’s get something straight here guys, Donny is not the bad guy and if that’s what you enjoy is some asshole torture feeding animals than move along you won’t be missed!!!!
You’re dumb as shit, they’re doing these to keep people from fear mongering and banning these animals as pets/ killing them
Right and does any one remember the videos not to long ago of him making the pythons lunge put of the cage and fall towards the ground seems hypocritical .
FUCK all u idiots .
@@bradkerr1977 I personally come to this channel to learn about reptiles from Kevin. I would not of even known that other channel existed if these videos were not posted. I do not agree with putting videos of animals killing other animals outside of something like Nat Geo.
What I said has nothing to do with what some other person post onto UA-cam. It was about the constant behavior of Donnie. With all of the negativity Donnie is making it so others will not hear the message of conservation. He makes it so I would not send my children to this channel to learn about reptiles.
Leaders build/lift others up and I would consider Kevin to be a leader in the reptile community.
From a leader I would expect the higher road to be taken and not let something outside of oneself (words of others) upset them to posting something like this. We lead by example!
A quick way to figure out what kind a person someone is - ask them a question about others. Is their answer going to be positive or negative? It shows us where they live internally.
Negativity and talking poorly about others destroys one authority and turns people off. It is opposite of being a role model.
Chandler’s content wasn’t my cup to begin with but I don’t sub to this channel for this. There are ways to make videos like this that are informative and constructive… this isn’t. It was sad. I’m here for Kevin but this other dude and his way of communicating his opinions? Nah…
i agree 100% @DONNYRAPTURE just loves stirring up s***! THIS IS MERELY JUST TO BASH OTHERS THATS IT .. its amazing every time there is a vid of someone in the industry bashing someone, somehow its DONNY THE CAMERA GUY. I dislike this very much and to think Kevin would allow him to post this.. over and over....I cant support them..
Seriously, Kevin is cool but this Donnie guy that runs the UA-cam channel is petty, snide, and overly moralizing. Chandler's clearly upset with Kevin/NERD as a whole over what their UA-cam guy is doing.
Donny you are ruining the channel with these videos sadly we want leaving not ur opinion on other UA-camrs
Yikes, I’m out until NERD reevaluates their social media. Clickfarming is one thing (understandable, you’re trying to run business), but between reposting old content, constant discord plugs, and these hit pieces it’s clear that clickfarming has become the priority over quality content, education, and entertainment.
Move along you won’t be missed 😊
the channel is dying, Kevin's heart just isn't in it anymore after Lillith died. they're struggling to break 20k views, so drama like this gets a lot more clicks. I'm going to assume Donnie gets paid for doing the social media, based on how much it earns since he controls it all, it would make sense why he, a non reptile keeper keeps trying to cancel actual venomous keepers, because he thinks because he has a boss that knows some shit that he's got that cred.
You said it perfectly, Paul.
@@ExarchGaming let’s see if their new video gets 70k views 😜
@@DerricksReptiles Right???? They always talk about working together to protect the reptile community, but instead they weaponize their community to go after other reptile keepers that don't uphold some level of purity that they themselves don't uphold. Then they have the balls to complain about cancel culture, when they're the primary community that tries to cancel people.
Celebrating life feeding and using it as clickbait is clearly wrong. But snarky, childish videos like this are just annoying.
Annoying and off-putting.
Exactly
Dude no this shit needs to be called out and psychos like this need to be exposed. If people accept it and keep supporting them well that’s on them but getting truth out is never childish and being open with your opinion of said truth is honesty.
It’s weird how truth and honesty seems childish to you.
You guys are never gonna win a war with dudes who live in Florida and proudly have a non-ironic mullet!
Facts
In Florida we play with sharks gators an snakes almost anything that can kill us lol
legendary mullet baby small arms donny has no chance
I don’t understand the point of this video…honestly wish I had never clicked on it
Donny has too much control over nerds social media and is putting out personal drama. Which destroys nerds reputation.
This
So you think this behavior is ok, glorifying torture?
The just lost me as a subscriber
@@edwardmcintyre3708 who did?
didn't YOU feed a live rat snake to a king cobra, new england reptiles?
ahahhahahahah that was him it thought it was this channel ... And the python feeding a few months ago teasing the animals with food thinking it was hilarious
He fed a live corn snake to his cobra and that snake was alive when the cobra was biting it and it took a very long time for the cobra to actually start eating it. I let it slide bc he doesn't do that often if ever and and then he's mostly educational
what they fed to the king cobra aint no corn snake
I'm saying they fed a live baby corn snake to their cobras too
hypocrisy for sure
I thought this Channel was about reptile knowledge? Not some drama show now this editor needs to be let go I’ve watched multiple streams and he is by far the worst part of the streams or videos.
Donny is a little girl.
Well said. This dude Donny is a clout chasing tool.
Well said. He’s not a reptile guy and it shows in the videos.
Donnie man I really wish you would stop with this drama your making Kevin and his company look real bad man ! Kevin should fire you
@@Enchantedfawn4357 fr it makes Kevin and everyone at nerd look bad and I know everyone else is passionate but this dude just wants to spin the narrative and make other channels looks bad.
Live feeding is sometimes necessary, glorification of death and torturing animals is not. I understand that raising awareness of these horrible Channels and inappropriate content is important, but I’d really appreciate some more long format videos focusing of the reptiles at NERD instead of this and the constant shorts. I miss hearing Kevin discuss reptile behaviours, and actual informative content and seeing the well kept and beautiful reptiles at NERD rather than seeing juvenile animal torturers getting more publicity through these ones.
how can you even support these people anymore haha
Coowl im gonna live feed my kids!!♡
It's necessary and the funny part is they are SO against it that they did it. haha But they said "we don't like it" so that made it okay.
@@blackmonday738That's kind of a dumb response. Someone's talking about live feeding animals. And you're talking about feeding your kids live food. You sound like an idiot. Whether you're being serious or not.
Theyve done one or 2 videos, in which they made it extremely clear that this was intended only to illustrate the process of weaning an animal off live food, and that it makes them sad every time they see it. If you cant see the difference between that, and live feeding animals UNNECESSARILY and dedicating an entire channel to bunny death matches, you are simply an idiot or lying.
Unsubbed from you guys. Tired of all the drama cry baby bs.
Man I used to love Nerd. Tired of this drama bullshit to chase views. Never again giving you guys a view. Hopefully one day you will get your content back in line.
Donny you could have (and should have) censored the beginning. I never wanted to see a rabbit chomped by caiman.
Dude they are just as guilty of the stuff they are criticizing by putting that content on their channel. Hardcore disappointed in this channel for this...
@@willyjgonzalez6560 nailed it
@@willyjgonzalez6560 Not at all. He’s showing the evidence of why they made the video.
Why? Hes not the one that did it to begin with! He’s just trying to bring awareness to it all while being Transparent. If he hadn’t at least showed that quick millisecond of it then there will be people out there calling him a liar. You can’t make everyone happy, there’s always going to be someone complaining about something but at least he got his point across 🤷♀️.
Thank you NERD for all that you do! ❤️
@@willyjgonzalez6560 would you prefer they bring attention to these channels without showing any proof in the process, forcing people to have to click on links to the original videos in order to make their informed opinions, giving views and therefore ad revenue to these sickos in the process?
I feel really bad for Kevin because he seems like such a genuine, fun person who just wants to talk to other people in the hobby and be friends.
Meanwhile Donny is obviously a clout chaser. I mean he said himself that his favorite reptile is a cobra because ''it gets you the most views''. I hate that man and I wish he'd just make his own channel already and leave NERD out of all of this..
Donny definitely has problems but you cant lie that this channel has brought attention to needed issues among other channels, personally i dont support live feed videos to “these” extends, live feeding itself is not the problem, it depends on how humanely its handled
@@MonsterZeroLITE For sure but there's a better way of doing this than having the majority of the video being about how a 24 year old doesn't wanna be friends with your boss...
@@MonsterZeroLITE so you’re saying showing a channel of 3k followers live feeding and then posting the content on a channel with 290k and bashing a channel of 1.7 million they probably just gave that little channel a bunch of views and actually did the opposite of what they were trying to accomplish
Also as a heads up those messages 100% come off as condescending or telling someone what to do. Maybe try just being friendly before assuming and people will react to messages differently
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No they don’t
Maybe the first one because of all the punctuation but Kev is a boomer give him a break lol
Alright - time for some tough love. This channel used to be primarily about education about reptiles. You have let someone who is an outsider to this community come in and basically railroad the content to something completely unrelated all for the sake of growing the channel. Donny is doing what you're paying him to do, but he's doing it at the cost of your reputation. Please create a new channel for this kind of stuff and leave it off the main channel. Put Donny back behind the camera and put the focus back where it belongs. On the animals.
THANK YOU
I don't really understand where you are coming from with this. This is totally about the animals and how they are being mistreated and the way they are glorifying killing of animals. I do understand some animals will only eat live feedings. But what he's showing here is how they are making like a game of it. Also he's educating us in what is bad and good with live feeding.
Obviously the message went clearly over your head.
@@billh1491 If that's what you're seeing, ok. But it's not what I saw. What I saw is a UA-cam channel using a particularly hotbutton issue like "live feeding videos" as a mechanism to push and pull views from a larger UA-cam channels audience. That's what I saw. I saw a reality TV tactic used on a Reptile Education Channel I enjoy.
@@billh1491 might have more impact if NERD wasn't also guilty of this. They have a live feeding video of a king cobra eating a rat snake. Yeah, they say they don't enjoy it and it's for education purposes but at the end of the day they still filmed and watched another animal die for the entertainment and views.
Don't get me wrong I like NERD and have nothing but respect for Kevin, but this is about clout, nothing more.
Nerd needed a jay and got a donny
I was really saddened at how petty all this bickering is. I could go watch James Charles for the same bullshit. I adore NERD but this video just didn't feel like the amazing content and education that I look forward to.
Make a difference channel for slandering people you are going to destroy you’re platform being toxic and trying to destroy others
100000%
So calling out animal abusers is slandering?
%10000 yes and I’m not gonna try and change you’re mind but think about this when you scroll through these comments are you commenting this same question on the people with the same opinions as me about what Donny is doing here this is not just the simple fact that he is pointing out what people in a group are doing wrong and how we can fix it no he is point out who is doing wrong and who to stop watching and giving reasons on why you should watch nerd instead because we don’t like that you can talk about these things and tell people why they are bad without calling people by there names putting there channel in the dirt to make yours look better when nerd seriously has a video that is titled live feeding this cobra we don’t like it though like okay if you didn’t like it and don’t want to show it why post it and keep the video up at the same time as putting peoples names and faces out there that they are doing wrong and talk crap about them it is embarrassing tbh and it’s truly sad that you don’t understand that talking about the group of live feeding and how that’s bad it would do a lot more good than to talk about 2 or 3 people in particular because there channels get more attention doing things that they don’t approve of now gtfo of here you don’t like my comment keep scrolling it wasn’t for you it was for donny so stick it where the sun don’t shine
@@kubestraragaven4872 just keep thinking that Donny isn’t picking people out to talk bad about instead of picking a subject like live feeding to talk about we can all learn that it is bad without knowing who the bad people are let people figure that out for themselves don’t talk bad about people and make people think they are bad because they do things you don’t approve of that are totally legal and natural
@@kubestraragaven4872 and before you claim that I am one of those people I feed f/t and I don’t condone recording live feeding but beyond that it makes me even more upset for someone to use someone else mistakes and wrongs to make themselves look good that is slandering people and that is wrong talk about live feeding not who is live feeding
How you gonna make a video about this but feed a king cobra live on here
They didn't say live feeding was bad. Cool to know you didn't even try to watch the video or you are just really fucking stupid.
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exactly
Right???!
EXACTLY
How many times are we re-titling this for clicks?
Exactly. This guy is a joke.
This drama/thirsting for likes is gross. I hope Kevin sees this and tightens the reins on his channel. NERD has a real opportunity to put out a high quality informational content that people would actually tune into. Kevin if you're reading these comments please consider just doing weekly uploads showing us what you guys are up to at NERD. That's what we are all here for in the first place
You: they don't love watching animals being torn apart they'r so pathetic 🤮
Me: did we watch the same video 😐
I've seen u live feed a snake to a king online publicly
Yeah they did
It’s ok when they do it.
yes, but that video was mainly "educational" and to show what happens when something is envenomated etc. Also the countless number of warnings and saying "please don't feed live, always feed frozen etc" was pointed out through the video. The cobra in that video as refused to eat live and that is the ONLY live feeding video I've ever seen come from NERD and that was almost 2 years ago now. There are channels torturing and playing with their feeder animals daily and have been for years, i think that's much worse than a one time deal 2 years ago.
All the hatred is from you donnie. You are at the topic of everyone of these fights.
Obviously the message went over your head, you get off on watching the animals being killed? You posting videos saying. Crocadilian brutally kills rabbit? If you don't understand then your comprehension skills are lacking.
@@defuniqueetc.9145 he said nothing about supporting inhumane live feedings. All they said was that Donnie brings negativity and throws shade where he could probably get more people to agree with his point if he didn't seem so petty sounding.
@@defuniqueetc.9145 live feedings are a thing because certain reptiles don't like their food already being dead and won't eat it. recording a live feeding though..that's a whole different thing. Yes it's educational but not something that people would be okay with seeing.
Kevin...please, fire donny. He's costing you views and future customers.
Fire Donnie? Why because he has integrity and holds others accountable when he finds hypocrisy in their actions. Good on Donnie and if you don't see what he doing then you're probably the type of person that would end up in the cross hairs. Js
@@nvorg1 wtf are you talking about they are literally doing the same , Kevin once said he doesn't like painting his animals in a bad light. yet he literally doing the same. Doesn't understand the word double standard.i can't believe Kevin integrity is gone cause of Donnie it's sad
These videos have begun to ruin this channel
just as the live feedings ruin the hobby, get use to it or pick a tangible position to stand from that isn't hypocritical.
@@Evdawg1898 when ur feeding a living cricket its a live feeding, why arent we talking about that?
@@Alatreon2435 why are you defending animal torture?
@@Alatreon2435 live feeding, and live feeding a cruel, excessive way just to make money are two very different things.
What is wrong with calling out dingo when cleaning the snakes he got from him
Just the fact he didn’t make a video specifically about the subject or even linked his patreon. Just made little to no effort to help
Nothing these dudes are petty AF
@@pacman8368 how is that petty? That’s all you would do for a friend? With that type of friend who needs enemies 🤣
@@_Moonlight92 how do you or this dude from NERD know that's ALL he did? Just because that's all we see? In the Tiny % of Chandlers life he films? You actually have no idea what was done behind the scenes. Speaking on it is ignorant
@@Specogecko He put what his patreon was in the video. If we can't do the extra step in actually typing then I gotta call out the laziness. On the other side of the coin for convenience, I don't see why he didn't link it when he went through the effort in putting it in the video and shining some light on it.
WAIT, didn't you guys FEED A LIVE SNAKE TO A COBRA? but that was fine...
Nothing they say applies to them apparently, its just drama for clout pure and simple
Donny said that was for educational purposes.
@@RN-on4yn so if these live feeding videos just say FoR EdUcAtIoNaL PuRpUsoSeS a bunch of times then they are all good right?? looking real hypocritical now..Donny DID learn something from The Reptile Channel!
Good call! i completely forgot about this!
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This is a professional. Chandler needs to grow up a little bit. He will look back on this with regret when he gets older.
Donny is running Kevin and NERD's name and reputation though the dirt, with these videos
You miht want to chek you're grammer beefore trying too insult sumone
@@BillyBobBrockali69 miht? 🤣🤣🤣
@@krisorraj I mint too saigh mite
@@BillyBobBrockali69again I think you meant to say, "I meant to say might"
Id like to see more of Kevin advocating and educating and less donny bashing the other youtube channels. Ive read alot of the comments and looks like donny is loosing kevin followers by the droves. Not good. Live feeding sucks for sure and ya some animals wont eat frozen. And yes posting videos as click bait is low but it happens. Everyone is aware. Move on and continue to do the things the channel was started for. Get donny off his high horse
Please stop chasing the "drama" in the reptile community, it's really turned me off this channel. I love hearing Kevin educate us about what can be improved in animal husbandry and share genuinely interesting and educational content. But focusing on the drama and making these sorts of videos is such a turn off on the whole hobby. You're doing yourselves a disservice and undermining the whole profession. What a shame.
I honestly think it's by far the other way around. What the reptile community does by sharing live fed videos is doing a disservice to the profession. I've said it time and time again. If you get off from watching animals suffer you shouldn't own any animals. I get it. It happens in nature but it's one thing to film feeding habits out in nature and throwing a live rabbit to a gator in your living room. I just love the excuse "well my gator won't eat f/t" yeah ok 👌. And it's one thing to feed live if they won't take frozen thawed. That's fine but don't film like some sadistic torture video and spread your perversions on UA-cam
Wtf are you talking about 😂
@@Specogecko who?
If it turned you off to this channel why are you commenting and watching.
he’s money hungry he’s gonna chase any drama with a drooling mouth
anyone who can watch a bunny die like that and enjoy it or want to share it online….you are cruel 💔🥺
Mother Nature isnt a Disney movie.... get over it
@@Mrvalentino555 Feeding animals in captivity has nothing to do with "mother nature"
The animals we keep don't have to hunt/kill to survive. And we have the option to not let prey animals suffer like they would do in the wild. That's why so many animals are feed pre-killed or frozen-thawed.
@@Mrvalentino555 “Mother Nature” doesn’t = keeping captive animals and video taping an animal suffering to post on social media
@@RebekahVenom maybe not to you but to other people thats how they feed their animals. I personally wouldn't do it but theres no reason to berate people that do
@@Mrvalentino555 I’m not berating people for live feeding. If you read my comment all I said was I think it’s twisted that they are making videos of it.
I have now stopped following this channel I love watching Kevin as he is very educational but due to some of his workers/media creators slagging of other freindly youtube creators and being childish this channel is now toxic
Exactly what you said this dude is going to wind up causing this channel to lose all its supporters this is. Sad
I still will follow. I respect that Kevin allows independence amongst his staff members. He doesn’t try to dictate content. Kevin is so knowledgeable and humane I’ll still watch NERD.
@@analogkid4957 Donny has his own channel. Why can't he post his drama there?
NERD is about the shop and snakes, people want to listen to Kevin and watch Kevin, not donny. That's the issue, donny is taking over and is obsessed with numbers, look how many times he admits he tried to get Kevin to do something because he wants more views. Kevin is still not mentally there since lilith and now donny is just posting drama, people are leaving and I am too. I love Kevin, but I cannot stand donny.
If all you got from this was a drama video bye
Absolutely agree this channel is garbage I don't care for Kevin or the other f*****
Donny, I was with you in the beginning with these videos but now I honestly feel like at some point you're going to tell me damn snake Discovery abuses their animals too. I feel like you're just on a blind crusade at this point.
Lol. Right!? It was like at first okay fair… now he’s reaching. Kevin should put a stop to it. He lets Donny just create all this content just because he knows video and editing etc but it’s hurting him big time! Time to unsubscribe
I mean he has already attacked Clint in the past for waiting till later on in a video to mention he was at nerd.
Completely agree. What we don't need are these new videos giving politicians ammo to pass these bills. This is how everyone who knows nothing about reptiles will perceive ALL of us. Donnie needs to take his own advice on the growing up tip.
@@ferrellscales1155 do you hear how stupid you sound?
Idiotic comment
You just watched a video showing proof that someone supports animals being tortured... And somehow you spin it to make it seem like NERD bad is the one here?
I wish Kevin had someone anyone else to run his UA-cam. This guy makes Kevin look bad in my opinion. I seem to remember watching a live feeding from Nerd. Get off your high horse. Why is it you consistently use other UA-camrs pics or names in your thumbnails? Oh that's right it's the only way you can get people to watch the sad part is Kevin is crazy knowledgeable and gets his point across well but Jonny? Whatever his name is ruins it.
Turning into a drama channel and pinning the reptile community against one another... How about everyone stays in their lane? People don't like watching live feedings then don't watch it and move on
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Exactly
@@quaziskittles358 exactly stay in your lane bud. You're making Nerd look bad! Idk why he does this Kevin has plenty of knowledge for good content but this guy doing the filming and what not is about as original as Millie and vanilli. It's sad.
@Brittany Hyder you're wrong
People who say this is just “drama”. No. The issues they are bringing up are going to effect me, as a Florida venomous and exotic keeper. I have had many of my snakes longer than I’ve had my adult children. The idea of losing the right to keep them is terrifying. The amount of laws that are changing in the recent years, directly correlated with the boom in venomous and exotic keepers making extreme UA-cam channels. They’re putting it into the faces of every person, and if they’re not putting it out there in a professional responsible way. In turn it’s making The average unknowing person, someone who might be neighbors with one of us, believe that they’re gonna have to worry about all the stuff they’re seeing. I’ve been keeping venomous for 24 years, and I’ve never had an escape or a bite. My neighbors would never know I had these animals, but now I have to be worried about keeping them.
Well said.
Exactly!
You have a valid point. However, since Donnie posted these videos; they are actually gaining more views and followers. Some people would have never known who they were before. They have posted increased live feedings. The back and forth videos aren’t helping, they are doing it more.
@@LadytisExotics I get what you’re saying, but at some point it has to be outed and stopped.
@@LadytisExotics I find this Donnie dude to be petty ,snide, and sanctimonious. I think he's doing these 'call out' videos because they've been well received in the past. The first couple were okay but this is just petty.
Subscribed because of Kevin. Unsubscribed because of Donny
Maybe just maybe it’s not Kevin that people have a problem with
100%.. Donny the has to be one miserable human.. Kevin is weak for letting him tarnish his rep like this
Well bye
Yea donny kills it for me, just be the camera man and shut up
@@Justinhofmann88 exactly
I wish you guys (Donny) would make a separate channel for stuff like this.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you are bringing light to some of the more fucked up things going on in the hobby but man I miss the simpler days when it was just Kevin filming stuff on his phone. He would touch subjects like these without making it a huge spectacle and witch hunt each time..
I wish Donny would step back and just go back to being a cameraman or make his own channel. The way he presents stuff just leaves a really bad aftertaste. I'm also getting really tired of how he is playing down what he said like with the cobra content stuff. If I had been in Chandler's shoes I would've taken it the exact same way as he had.
If you really want to touch subjects like these there's a way you can do that without specifically going after a 24 year old guy who's grandfather and dog just died and who's busy 24/7 trying to get his property built while also uploading and editing videos by himself. I really don't blame him not wanting to talk to Kevin after how much Donny has made a circus out of this channel. It really hurts me unsubscribing because this video does touch some important issues just the way its presented is so juvenile and tasteless.
This is exactly my feeling!
Donny already has his own channel which is why it baffles me that he chooses to upload these sorts of videos to NERD's channel and potentially tarnishing Kevin's reputation.
Not saying that i don't agree with some points in this video but certainly these cancel culture witch hunt style videos aren't great for the hobby, especially when the reptile Industry is looked down on as it is.
I agree. The debate is not about live feedings, at this point. Most of us agree that it is disgusting (unfortunately, it's needed in some circumstances but don't film it and stick it on Utube). The real issue being debated is Donny and how he is presenting NERD. I hardly see Kevin anymore
@@Laurxra Might have to do with the fact his channel only has 3K subscribers compared to Nerd's near 300K.
Donny has too much control of nerds social media and has created this channel into his own drama. I came for reptile education not this bs Personal drama. Unsubscribed.
If a mouse somehow ran into 3 baby snappers in the wild which would never happen and somehow get attacked by all three because of its own weakness genetic inferiority stupidity etc the it happens but to put a healthy smart mouse somewhere with no escape to be picked apart is not okay. That's the different
Oh dear lord. Here we go again. This stuff makes the community look so bad. Why do these people do this? This is a bummer to me to see such a big name do this.
I know this sounds like a dumb question but who are you talking about? NERD or CWL, because they're pretty big channels.
Yeah nerd needs to fire their cameramen he thinks hes a star. Trash
1000% agree!
My thoughts exactly!!
There won't be a community if we keep making content that (to the uneducated, non reptile owning, non reptile loving public and legislators) makes us look like a bunch of cruel sadists.
Seriously, I like Nerd but they need a new editor Donny needs to leave and Nerd would grow so much faster
Yes! Donny needs his own channel for no one to watch instead of destroying Kevin’s reputation by doing what he wants using Kevin’s name and channel.
Donny is childish
Agreed, it seems Chandler's problems with NERD whether they are reasonable or not are more with what Donny said and not what NERD as a company said. I think this issue is pointless.
Well sed 2 all!! All this negative Karening is coming from cam guy, but b/c this is NERDs channel, Kevin is ultimately responsible 4 content. Kevin: If ur listening, please b a positive voice in this industry. Ditch the neg cam guy or set sum boundaries 4 him. He is really making u look bad.
Donny is a clown.
My take is all of them need to stop making videos of this kind.
Concentrate on the animals.
Not fighting or disagreements.
It makes all of you look bad.
By all means address issues that relate to the hobby but not at the expense of others.
Saddens me to see this.
This guy has done it multiple times. He is ruining the community single handedly.
This video may fall under UA-cam rules regarding harassment and bullying.
I mean torturing animals is kinda not concentrating on the welfare of any animals. It’s also about the reputation of our hobby and doing something about those that are destroying it.
@@soundspark Hell no, this is facts and intellectual discussion. No one is calling anyone a name or anything.
@@jxstified7558 YEAH right.
I never knew he was so immature! I just unsubscribed to Chandlers Wildlife..Public live feedings are wrong...They do make a lot of people hate reptiles. Kevin is spot on.
I can’t believe some of this stuff. Thank you for speaking out against animal cruelty. I understand live feeding and animal instincts, but putting a mouse in with snapping turtles is beyond cruel. I started watching you because I wanted help with my fear of snakes, and your videos have helped with that. I appreciate the fact you don’t film tossing in live mice.
changed the title of your video I see. you're a joke dude are you just going to attack every channel that doesn't agree with you? you get a real false sense of security and your place in the hobby Camara man. working for Kevin doesn't give you immunity and to be honest you're making him look bad and harming his brand.
I agree 😆😆😂😂
I think some of the previous content they have made like this is well founded but this one, not so much.
Just say you support torturing animals. No need for the long comment.
kevin seems to be on board with this stuff tho?
Camera man is a joke
I watched this to the end hoping it would recover, I am so intensely disappointed in NERD. This is just messy petty, I wouldn’t want to be your friend either.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 hopefully this is their last video like this….. they need controversy to grow they peeked as Donny said they got 60k views on this video let’s see if their next video gets 60k views 😉
I've been saying this for years. They really dropped the ball on this one now didn't they.
@@DerricksReptiles Shut up. NERD being childish in some regards doesn't excuse you from being a shitty person doing live feedings for clout.
@@DerricksReptiles bruh you had to raid his video 😭😭 how mad are you bro
@@realfnneato3111 not mad I’m showing support he got 70k views bashing me I’m rooting for him I hope his current video gets 70k views 😉
I've bought a ton of snakes from NERD over the years. I won't spend one more penny with them until Donny is no longer affiliated with them. He is the worst thing that has ever happened to that once great company and Kevin is blind for not seeing it.
Exactly 👏
Donny is a clown.
Facts
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@@Jeffrey_L fr tho. I can't believe anyone would want to call out animal abusers for cruelty, he's such a clown for wanting other animal communities too appreciate reptiles and not see the reptile community as a bunch of psychopaths. HOW DARE HE!!
Kind of want to ask a few questions and have a conversation on some of this topic. Any where I can get ahold of you wether email, video or phone?
NERD and Kevin are so incredibly right on live feeding and the reptile industry
Still, I think Kevin is absolutely exceptional in all the ways that matters,his mannerism and tone comes across perfect,narrator not so much... please let it go,helps no one!
I’d like to add that I love what Kevin does and why he does it, his love for animals is very apparent and clear. He’s also incredibly knowledgeable and intelligent, because he has life experience. Xxx
Yup keeps 14-16 foot snakes in 6 foot cages , houses snakes together, free handles for views . Great qualities
@@reptilesruletheworld1311 there’s nothing wrong with housing snakes together…. And unfortunately the way he keeps is animals is the only feasible way for there to be a reptile industry like we have today. He keeps his animals healthy and understands what they need. Do they have the most ideal enclosures? No but sometimes that’s how things got to be until we figure out how to improve on things.
This video literally shows what bad reptile keeping we should be focusing on
I don't know wtf is going on between all you content creators and I don't know how to react tbh, just hope you guys still do what u love and love what u do
I like your videos because they are educational, funny and you can tell how much passion Kevin and others on this channel have for reptiles etc. That being said, if I wanted to watch people fighting and bitching about each other for their differences I would watch the bachelor or love island or what ever drama is popular with people my own age these days. If you have to bitch about other people Donny, make your own channel, don’t do it on such a successful and educational channels page. You are going to lose Kevin and NERD a lot of followers.
Amen
Bunch of fairys work at nerd
Yesssssss
absolutely
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Clout chasing at best film the animals an keep other ppls names out of your jealous mouth “enter will smith meme here”
This community is becoming more and more toxic by the day
It ALWAYS was 🤷♂️🤣 just a new generation that gets to see it....
and soft, holy fuck LMAO
u just see it now bc everything is online ^^
Because of clout chasing bullys like nerd
@@skii980 not even nerd itself, its the fuckin dweeb ass camera guy😂 kevins still cool but the reptile community has always been drama, even when i was a kid. Everyones full of themselves. Honestly though, all the venomous keepers and reptile keepers in texas r all nice and great people 😂 it seems like everyone out of state r toxic and start shit.
Love Kevin, but have to unsub. I appreciate bringing attention to things, but the entire video was just insult after insult, it's drama for views. Even with the "It's to protect the hobby" skin that was lazily tossed over it. You didn't need to have the intro be clips from the videos, that's using Live Feeding for views which is exactly what you're condemning. I agree with the points made overall, but this video is using a Bigger Content Creator for views, and also using the very content the video condemns to get views, while claiming it's all to go against it. It's childish on the best of days.
No one cares if you unsub! I see your point over the drama but if someone is calling you out and your business you have to respond and stand up for yourself.
@@miguemerkinrivera2664 for someone that you say doesn’t care about subscribing sure say “ like the video and subscribe “ in every video just scrolling there are several of these comments
@@miguemerkinrivera2664 "you have to respond and defend yourself" who do you think started all this ?
Or just skip a video? Later drama boy.
I tend to agree with you. He keeps showing these live feeding clips in his videos for thr shock factor to get a reaction out of people and in the same sentence condemning other people who do the exact same thing. He could have censored the clips or left them out.
It’s such a bummer to see this channel go this way when you have a beast of information like Kevin. Why does Donny have a job!!!!! Get rid of Donny!!! Unsubscribe
Kevin >Donny.
Did you really take credit for the dingo getting his channel back..... this two parties settled that in there own.... you only escalated things
yea this is some weirdo activity by Donny. Why i unsubbed
@@Mrvalentino555 I did as well
Donny is a clown and is also the reason I un- subscribed. He sits on a pedestal and points at everybody else with clickbait garbage. He's doing an injustice to Kevin by taking away from his knowledge being shared and helping the community. He should start his own channel if he wants to push this junk and not use NERDS fan base to muddy the water
I'm sorry things like this is happening, I really appreciate Kevin's work and care for animals and I just hope we can help get live feedings off of UA-cam. I understand live feeding is sometimes needed, but beyond educational purposes, it doesn't need to be used to gain views/likes online. Hopefully we can stop making animals look bad.
@Michael Johnson I agree live feeding is natural, and I am okay with that, we just don't need to film it and put it on youtube for views.
@Michael Johnson because it gives people a negative opinion about reptiles. Imagine a childs first introduction to the reptile world is a video of a monitor lizard shaking a rat to pieces , or they see a python squeezing a rabbit until its eyes pop out. Most would find it terrifying and they would think reptiles are vicious sadistic beasts . Education and conservation ! Not death for entertainment...
@@chadmiller2224 what about lions, tigers? Dogs, bears, wolfs? Owls, hawks, shrikes? Are those also vicious sadistic beasts?
@@MRGUSTAVOCHICKENFRING your comment doesn't even make sense?? I never said reptiles WERE beasts. You may want to read again lol.
@Michael Johnson since you didn't think before you wrote that comment let me do it for you, the moment you take an animal out of the wild the laws of nature no longer exist
Man, I'm just hella grateful all my reptile were easy to swap over to frozen/thawed. I know reptiles need to eat AND it pains to hear/see an animal fight for its life.💚🐍
Let’s see - in the wild it happens every day. I have absolutely no issue feeding any animal I take responsibility of the necessary requirement it needs to be healthy. This being said, I have spent 49 of my 61 years trying to be an ambassador for reptiles. Showing anything that causes fear negativity sensationalism or gives fuel to animal rights groups and legislators is wrong. The content of this silly video was wrong because it also showed it 😂 let’s all do better❤
I see exactly what Nerd is saying! Yes, some animals have to be fed live, but it’s not something you should capitalize on. If that’s what draws viewers in then that says something about your content. Your trying to teach people to enjoy these animals, and that’s honestly doing nothing for the hobby.
They literally posted a video of a king cobra being fed a live snake.......for views....to capitalize on.
People who do live feeding do not get any money from the video of the feeding and if they do it's not much
Chandler's channel is excellent
Let's not call this "live feeding". We should call it what it is. Animal Fighting. Pure and simple
As an aspiring biologist, I DETEST these kinds of people and their main argument that "it's just nature / it's exactly like in nature". In truth, the moment you take an animal OUT of nature, these "rules" cease to exist. We domesticated cats and dogs the same way, and I don't think we'd even have to argue anymore, that live-feeding them should be an option. And yes, reptiles can have exeptions, but as Kevin said, it's not for your viewing pleasure! Humans' prevalent innate sadismi is sadly another and maybe even bigger topic... Speciesism is real and we need you guys to try and make a change. I'm with you!
Exactly nature isn't recording it and posting it online to make money.
Well said!
None of the videos Donny highlighted have proper live feedings with the benefits that can be given by providing enrichment, so they aren't even comparable to the wild. It is senseless torcher for 0 reason. The fact that people think these videos are reflective of nature shows how toxic they are.
There's a video Nerd posted of a live feeding with a king Cobra.. took the snake over 20 mins to die but they saw no issue posting it on UA-cam for our viewing pleasure & to make $ off it js
@@carolinapantherette4life796 Thing is. they posted ONE video of it. and that was the end. these people are posting consistently animals being fed live for entertainment. not because the animals need to eat live but because the people behind the camera want to watch the feeder animals suffer.
I like chandlers content and I am sure he may have made mistakes but we all make mistakes but I don't agree with the live feeding either and I don't think he really agrees with it also considering he doesn't live feed his animals
He does live feed some of his snakes, he doesn't post it on UA-cam, but I think he shows it on patreon.
Are you sure? He’s always said he’s against it and has rehomed snakes that would only eat live.
He does on his private channel. He's said do before.
@@Invictus13666 they all do it
Their is nothing wrong with live feeding ok it’s the circle of life it keeps their natural instincts in tact and overall is natural theirs nothing wrong If you have an issue here why don’t you have an issue with the wild it’s the same animals need to eat and people need to stop being such snowflakes
Unsecribe if Kevin doesn't fire Donnie. I am
This is disgusting showing animals being fed live animals!
Yeah I’m unsubing tbr, just because he watches and said something doesn’t align with your view on it doesn’t make him bad for the hobby… I like y’all but tbr saying his Channel peaked 3 years ago is pretty funny considering this channel has no where near the following
Totally respect Kevin but it's time to come together not attack each other sorry but I'm no longer subscribed I'm a firm believer in talking out your differences off camera and not dragging somebody else's name through the mud much respect Kevin for everything you've done in your life but these dudes making the videos for you are turning your channel into a soap opera take care wish Kevin McCurley the best luck in the world
I don’t understand the need to make drama like this… Cringing! Make your own channel if you’re creating content like this honestly!
I've been thinking the exact same thing for months, Donny is a really bad representative for Nerd
If they don't who will? The live feeding videos are pure cruelty so why in the hell is CWL supporting it? No one else will dig into other people's favourite reptile channels, and calling someone out isn't drama it's too stop cruelty and the idea that reptile keepers are psychopaths who enjoy seeing animals suffer.
@@kubestraragaven4872 I can see where you’re coming from, I even hated feeding just live crickets when I had my reptiles. However, my perception of this channel was always about conservation, awareness, and teaching others of reptiles that we might not see everyday. I’ve learned a lot from this channel, not going to lie. However, these kinds of videos can throw someone off expecting to learn more about reptiles and conservation, rather than calling people out on things that people don’t agree with. Everyone treats and feeds their animals differently.
@@leanntaylor7478 yes but when people are giving their pet caiman a live rabbit it makes the community look bad and just cause it's their animals it doesn't mean they should exploit them for views and make prey items suffer just for fame
Oh he has a channel. Just no one watches his stupid drama. So he abuses this channel instead
You may have to feed live for certain things, but you don't have to record it and post it online. NERD has exactly one live feeding video. It was also explained in the video about why they did that.
Would you say feeding frogs are one of those things? Someone tried to say that I'm a hypocrite for feeding my frogs crickets, cause I said that feeding live animals and watching them suffer wasn't ok, let alone posting it online
@@CobraRaptor a cricket or meal worm doesnt even suffer
@@Rryan8065 ok mr. animal whisperer
@@Rryan8065 did you ask them? They seem to run away scared and squirm as if in pain. How do you know how or what they feel?
@@CobraRaptor It's also a question of safety. A cricket can't really hurt a frog, but an adult guinea pig can easily cause irreperable damage to even a large snake.
Imagine saying his channel peaked years ago when his analytics on like 3 videos outperform your channel as a whole.
Exactly. And why is he bringing up Chandlers analytics? Aren't they worried about the live feeding? Bring up his views is just low. Having reptiles is a passion and has nothing to do with views.
If memory serves me correctly you did a video showing a cobra killing and eating a snake. I don't care either way, just don't throw stones in a glass house.
I’m sure this gasbag camera kid thinks that different somehow.
And they have a snake literally swallowing a frog alive on their channel to while they are smiling and enjoying their day they sit and watch a frog get eaten alive 🤔
Thank you Kevin for your love and heart for all animals. ❤️
You going after the nicest kindest person out there is totally foolish good luck with everything unsubscribe
they are not going after him, only responding to him. watch the video
Same
hahaha. oh boy. good take.
@@Rryan8065 lol I don’t comment unless I watched it: he sounded petty and was using very shitty clip baits, and virtue signaling about dingo … this guy is a joke
@@Rryan8065 nerd started it bullys and clout chasers
Small minds discuss people; average minds discuss events; great minds discuss ideas. I don’t even like snakes and I still watch New England Reptile regularly because I appreciate Kevin’s knowledge and passion for his animals. Until tonight I believed shi**y content like this to be beneath his seemingly admirable, dare I say, honorable character. They say don’t meet your hero’s and so here lies your proof.
Donnie is known for shit like this, he thinks he's the arbiter of the entire reptile community, so he sends cancel culture attacks on everyone and everything if they do something he feels is wrong. Yet they come out as massive hypocrits, considering they STILL have a video up where they live fed a king cobra. and it wasn't fast, it took a very long time for that snake to die.
Well it isn't Kevin making the video but he is letting it happen. These are making me lose respect for Kevin
But you guys have fed LIVE snakes to cobras and posted it publicly! So what Kevin said is moot.
That's disgusting. How can they get away with abusing animals like that. Granted the creatures need to be fed, but it can be done humanely.
Some animals will not eat something if it isn’t alive. This is not a hard concept to grasp also this guy is making a massive double standard as many people have already pointed out
Not to mention in the first minute you put up live feeding footage why did you use the footage? I thought you were against that being posted online I guess y'all get a exception 👌
Wait, what? This is the strangest "you criticize society yet you live in it" kind of take. If they didn't, y'all would be crying that it's fake news and not that bad.
Kevin knows what's up regardless of societal and communal problems at play.
Next you're going to tell me Clint reptiles is secretly a backyard breeder, like come on man
I just spit out my water great comment ….. 😆😆😆😂😂😂😂
oh come on! seriously??? another youtuber I enjoyed watching is bad too??? At this point its getting harder and harder to figure out who to trust now....
heh wait til you learn about NERD's wrongdoings
I won't watch a channel that would sensationalize live feeding and I really don't watch channels that feature venomous keeping at all. Kevin might be the only exception for me, for the most part. I want to see people educate me on those animals without putting their own safety in question and/or intentionally stressing out animals to show them off.