The Cold Steel 4Max Scout Pocketknife: The Full Nick Shabazz Review
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- Today, we'll take a look at a knife that's big and ridiculous, but in a super endearing way and at a price point where that actually makes sense: the Cold Steel 4Max Scout.
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I understand your point of view as a strict E.D.C. reviewer with small hands that probably rarely carries his knives outside of home or the office . But for people that use their knives for more than opening envelopes and cutting string on their jobs and people that love the outdoors and go camping , hunting , fishing , rafting , ect... , this is another great knife from Cold Steel and No the AUS-10 isn't like VG-10 , it's waay better , judging from my personal use and Cedric and Ada's rope cut testing , it cut 150 cuts with the "factory" edge and VG-10 did 71 cuts with a new 20° polished edge , so wow, that's more than double the cuts according to my calculations . I have XL hands and this knife fits perfectly, so this knife is comfortably , has a good tough working steel blade with a nice high grind that still slices really good for such a thick blade , and the strongest lock on the Planet , soo what's not to like , another great Demko offering , Cold Steel does it again .
The things that make (made) Cold Steel great, are the same things make them the most disliked and misunderstood brand in the knife market. In the end, we all carry and use what we like, and someone else's two cents is just that. It's only when you buy into anothers opinion, that it becomes worth something more, whichever way you go. I like Cold Steel, and I miss Lynn Thompson.
Yep Nick is just one of these 'EDC' kids who doesn't even value utility
90% of these knives reviewers literally don't know how to use a knife outside the " opening Amazon boxes " zone , it's hilarious .
@@matthewadler1329 Yes, I think most people do not use their knives in a way the knives deserve and are intended for. Openeing packeges, typically, I would guess. I bought AD-10 a year ago and my first impression was heavy, thick behind the edge, terrible pocket clip... I wanted to sell it and almost did. But then I started to use it regularly, especially in the garden and started to appreciate it more and more. Finally, I reground it myself, made it much thinner behind the edge but with still very durable convex and bought an aftermarket deep carry pocket clip. Also reshaped the whole blade and sanded of some shar edges. And boy, now it is one my most used knives, slices, cuts, chops... Rock solid. One might say that I had to modify my knife substantially to fit my need and that it is almost a different knife now. Yes, but I modifiy more or less all my knifes to suit my needs better and I like it. Should I choose just one folder to have for the rest of my life, this would be it and some of my folders cost 500 USD. I know the AD-10 will most likely never fail. I love my other knives too but when it comes to utility and reliability, the AD-10 is best. Since 4Max is rather similiar, I believe the same can be said about it too.
I agree, hell I normally just use my car key to open packages. Knives like this are great for us people that use them as intended.
I love how the community is finally complaining about T6 screws
honestly, a company like cold steel, should be using T15s on their scales. LOL
Broc Stauffer agree there is no reason why any company should use t6 pretty much even the smallest knifes could use t8 screws.
@@Mr.Joe86 it is my only gripe on the TRM atom
Broc Stauffer That is true I wish they did also but I love my Trm atom also have the neutron both are amazing knifes.
@@Mr.Joe86 Im going to try to get the sculpted jade g10 handles. What scales do you have?
0:29 the Delica looks like a remora about to attach itself to a great white shark.
Best comment on the page right here.
His voice sounds like an adult version of Kyle's cousin from South Park. I just subbed for that reason alone.
You can place your finger below the choil to catch the closing blade.
I stick my finger right under the choil protrusion, kinda with my finger tip in between handle scales and the blade drops right on to that wide flat part at the base of the blade.
Despite all of the pretty good reviewers on UA-cam, you have been my favorite EDC knife reviewer since I stumbled across your work about a year ago, and you still are! For more reasons then one... I just wish that I could take you along on an adventure with me one day where we go out and hunt big game such as elk, white tail dear, mule deer and feral hogs! And as you probably already know, once we harvest our targeted species, we then take them back to the camp where we begin the processing procedure. This is where I would love to get your take on the types of knives that we choose to use and hear what your opinions would be on the different types of blades we use for certain task. When I say “we” I mean hunters in general. I generally hunt alone but that’s beside the point. You certainly have an expertise with knives. But I think you may get a different perspective on certain knives if you could actually partake in an adventure like the ones that I’m speaking of. I believe that it just might take some of the ridiculousness out of the equation in some of the knives that you review... Anyway, keep up the great work!
Good back up for the Alberta woods. I wear xl gloves and it looks like it would suit my hands. Of course not a city blade
Very nice review. I ordered one and got it today. It is awesome!
Please consider a review of that ti lite kris. Just ordered one and would like to hear your impressions.
Thanks Nick.
Can't wait for mine to arrive! Thanks Nick!
Just ordered one myself!
Aus steel, as made by cold steel (important, as other brands who use AUS have a very mediocre steel product) , is actually a powerhouse of a steel, for the price. I am pretty sure they have an interesting heat treat, and cryo for sure. They must have learned a lot of Japanese tricks, because their AUS approaches performance levels of premium steels.
Facts! I only sharpen mine 1-2 times a month, and I use it HARD daily. The AUS10 on Cold Steel knives is pretty fantastic. The edge lasts longer than my Adamas and that has Cruwear.
11:08 I said the same thing to my wife last night...
Lol!!!
Stop tempting me to skip forward I only just started the video, I can't resist knowing though.
I like big knives and even for me it’s not an everyday carry but for hiking, yard work and just fidgeting it’s def a keeper and I think it’s a huge value money wise at 1/3rd the price of the original.
The Italian version is my EDC. I love it more than anything. My “normal” knife is a skeletool
I got massive hands so I can thumb flick it with the lightest hand movement. I like I like the smooth polish. #tri-ad
Majority comments: Big knife.
Me: Raja II owner.
Have a voyager xl and ti-lite 6" .. This 4 max scout is coming soon..
Raja 2 all the way fren
Me too!😂
Yeah, ive had a spartan in my pocket for about 8 years now. Just got a colossus yesterday. Though im not in the market for the scout. Getting the 4max.
I'm kinda at a tie with the voyagers and the ak47. I however have quite a few others. The rajah 3 is also good.
Apologies for sounding mushy and estrogenical, but the sound of your voice is extremely comforting during this lonely time 👍👌
I have one, but I'll get a second one, it's a great knife.
Great video, as usual.
This is the heavy duty knife to keep in your garage for beatin' on and cuttin' on heavy duty stuff......or to make your hands look tiny. Cheers Nick!
5th Arch for that purpose, wouldn’t you want a fixed blade?
@@wallybanner512 Which is why i support nick's conclusion about the "need" for this knife.😁👍
I'm a forester/wood cutter by trade. I abuse my tools often because being out of the way a bit I tend to not always have the right one with me. I feel like I'm really part of the Cold Steel target market.
That's why I carry an Esee 4.
Probably the best UA-cam comment ever
@Castle Bravo Dude, let me have this one please!
Dominic Campbell Powder-coated 1095 and the ESEE warranty are hard to beat.
That said, trees fell themselves at the sight of Lynn Thompson.
3:19 Lynn Thompson is suing you for saying "reasonable" about one of his knives
Another great review Nick hope you’re doing okay during all this
Thankfully I have gigantic freakin’ meat paws to happily accommodate something so big and ridiculous to support my jackassery.
3:16, 11:27 Ohhh, would you look at that. I see you got more comfortable with bigger blades over the years, Nick.
I remember your review of the original 4Max, where you said that knife is two hand operated for you because of it's size. And now you're reviewing the bugdet version of said knife while opening it one handed. Made me smile.
I know you basically said the same thing about this one and pointed out that it's still an issue for people with smaller hands, but it still look like you've started to adapt to something a bit more jackassery 😁
I own the original USA version and it's a SWEET blade!🙂
You’ve earned yourself a sub, brother…
Good video…👍🏻
We need a review and comparison with the CS Pendleton Mini Hunter (interesting little pocketable hunting knife...economical 3v steel). Giant folder with teensy fixed blade. I just want to see the size comparison with the 4max :P
Good to hear from you nick..nice retreat from the madness
Beautiful knife!
AUS10 is a great steel, i've used it quite a lot this year and done testing on it, it's a much better steel than people seem to think, stop looking at the price of the knife and judging the steel on that, actually do some edge retention testing yourself and you will see it's not a low tier steel, AUS10 is perfectly fine as a knife steel, nothing wrong with it.
It's about $65 now, on Amazon. I just pulled the trigger. Should be here tomorrow. :)
Me too. I like it. 😊
while i dont own a coldsteel, i like them because knives like this fit neatly between like spyderco and medford. nice knife
I have this. It's a tough knife. I'm glad I have it for those times I feel I need it. camping like. That blade has come down on my fingers, and did cut them. Didn't come down hard, but it is sharp. Took about 3 minutes till bleeding started. One of those. I like it. Glad I have it.
Cmon nick ive been waiting months for that voyager xl review
Looks like a winner for my bugout bag!
Great review! Great knife! No prob for me to EDC. I like it...
Looks like a nice knife to keep in a glove compartment
Decision made. My Rajahii needs a mate. "Shockingly carriable" sold me. 🤣
G'day from Australia Nick 🇦🇺
I cannot believe I was about to get this much knife for only $44... Even IF the materials aren't anything to snob about - it's a pocket monster!
So I just received mine and it’s like pocket carrying a fixed blade knife. It’s comparable to an ESEE 4 or a Gerber Strongarm. I trust Tri-Ad locks so it feels like a folding fixed blade lol.
What's up with the second non-lanyard hole?
I skipped over the AD10 and grabbed one of these by way of having a cold steel pocket anchor. (the Code 4 is a more reasonable thing to carry). The overbuilt, bank vault, feel is weirdly compelling. It certainly is heavy, if pocketable (with suspenders). I disagree about dinging it for the AUS10, though. It holds an edge..ok... but it's a tough, non chippy steel (very popular with chefs). Tough and easy to sharpen is good in a camp knife- and no one is peeling their grapes in the office lunchroom with any flavor of 4Max, are they? Essee has a whole business based on this idea (tough, not grape peeling). Anyway it's hysterically compelling and actually functional despite being considerably heavier than, say, a Lionsteel M4 or Fallkniven F1 :) Good review- my decision on ordering one was based on this review and Pete's AUS10 test
I really like the 4 Max Scout. Its utterly ridiculous and I probably need one to keep in my backpack all the time for when spontaneous jackassery is called for.
Knife that also can function as a boat paddle.
I don't like that top grip choil area...wish it had some grip or protection to keep that finger from sliding up into the blade.
Bring the voyager and ti lite kris blade review! The cold steel reviews are my favorite
I might get one of these just to have at least one large pocketknife. Currently the biggest pocketknife I own is a Cold Steel Code 4.
@Nick Shabazz - Thank you!!! I wish my AD-10 Cold Steel had t-8 or t-10 screws, would be perfect.
Love my Scout!! Actually pryde a Santa Fe locomotive off the tracks in Barstow with it. Would I lie??
Hi Nick
You are very skilful!
Ref. 4Max Scout (Cold Steel)
Maintenance.
1) The small rag that you use for clear the Knife is soaked with a liquid ? (If it is what type?).
2)What kind of oil is used for the lubrication?
Many thank
Walter Sitia
To answer your questions:
1) He used a small gun cleaning patch (cloth) with some rubbing alcohol on it to clean.
2) He used 10W (10 weight) KPL oil lube. He also frequently uses 10W nano oil as well but not in the video you asked about.
Other tool lists and information can be found on his website on the "tools" section. Hope this helps.
I own the usa one and it is my fav knife,and a rare beast too with maybe two sold here in
Holland.
This is my go to knife to open toiletpaper packaging.
Would you like to see a Scout line of knives from CS? Like AD10 Scout or the Code 4 Scout.
The blade could be much more pointy and 6" long at leased ! Along with no liners and much larger hardware especially the pivot !
I have a curious question. Is it possible for a knife maker to use billet aluminum N knife construction? Other than the cost of producing billet aluminum? I was just thinking of how a knife maker may be able to produce a slab of billet aluminum and millet all the way out for a lightweight knife. It may even be cheaper than titanium however I don’t have anything to compare it to.
The Code 4 is close to whatb you describe, though it is a piece handle rather than an integral
@@andrewfournier8817 I have a automotive background and I always see pistons made from forged steel, cast-iron, and a billet of aluminum. I always thought it would be a cool material to make a knife handle out of. Thanks so much for the comment. I’m going to check into the code for.
Nick, I would love for you to say the size of the the screws in the review like MetalComplex. I know you show it in the disassembly, but saying it real quick would improve the quality of your review imo.
I like that you did it in this video.
What advantages does this present over a voyager? Considering the price difference and same materials. (I edc a Tanto XL)
I also edc a tanto xl too and sometimes my ti-lite 6" ... Both are great!
Gotta get me an ad 10 and this guy.. great review
Maybe I missed it but what is the purpose for the hole in handle scales just below the pivot?
AD said they put it on the prototype so you could pin it and make it a fixed blade,. Just kept the feature on future production.
It’s essentially an AD10 with a different handle shape.
The tip of the blade on my 4max scout is exposed when closed like an old knife that has been sharpened for years ! I would be really pissed if I had spent $600.00 ! I'm still pissed because I spent $95.00 !
It appears from looking at your vid to be a 1/16" shorter than the one you reviewed ! Or 3 9/16 " long !
I will have to modify the area where the stop pin on the inside strikes the blade so it can close deeper !
I really agree with yourhardware issue ! And g10 scales without liners would be fine ! And the pivot could be a lot larger ! You know just for a tiny bit stronger !
Amazing knife at the price for its intended audience.
How much
Just the thing for a 6'2" 210lb guy with large hands and a blue collar job. Like me. Cold Steel has always been over the top in so many aspects of their design and Lynn's philosophy . Nice review of a folder as any I've enjoyed here over the years. Nice work as ever. 👍
Wow. A knife company who understands a multi position clip
I handled the scout and went with the Rajah III for a little more reasonable/carry choice.
I like big knives but if I go big then my 6" Rajah II but for a BEEFY but reasonable carry the Raj III is my choice over this one.
They used T6 to save weight on screws!
What is with the hole in the place a flipper tab would be when open??
it's meant to be a place you would run a pin through to essentially make it a fixed blade. That said, they do not give you a pin so youd have to find/make one.
It's meant to run a pin through to essentially make it a fixed blade, that being said they dont give you the pin so youd have to make or find one.
I love my 4 Max Scout. It is huge, it cuts, its ergonomic, and also carries so good for such a huge knife. I carry it a lot on my days off work (it is too ridiculous for the job site...I usually carry a Shaman and my XM-18 on the job). I love my AD10, I love my 4 Max, and love the SR1 Lite. They're not for everyone but man are they great knives. Sure the T6 screws are dumb, but I can overlook that. The Aus10 steel is really good, very much like 440c/154cm, which is nothing to sneeze at, and Cold Steel does great heat treats. Only complaint I had? The edge grind was wonky on mine. Almost a chisel grind, and the heel was way too steep. I fixed it no problem, and for 80 bucks its a small complaint. Even at 110 bucks it's worth the price!
Oh, and the clip. Yea, all my Cold Steels have stupid tight clips. That texture on the handle doesn't help. I sanded my handle down and slightly bent the clip out a little, works great now. Had to bend my AD10's clip and sand/bend on the SR1 Lite. Now they all go in and come out of pocket perfectly, with great retention. Again, for the price not a big deal. Quality knives, minor inconveniences.
Think I'll go chop down a tree with my 4 max later...
This is very intriguing to me however I must ask if I'm just better off having a bushcraft fixed blade?
@@TheKro16 up to you. Depending on the blade, the 4 max may be more robust. Lol! Just get a variety, then you can pick and choose for the situation.
I was waiting for that AD15 size comparison... Thanks!
I think this knife is freaking amazing.
Value for moolah, too. Since, I can't afford the original 4-Max. The Extrema Ratio RAO-II is beyond my budget, too.
You could slay a Dragon with that sword
Still no deka review?😩
Very tempted by a lot of CS’s EDC entries these days. They have a lot of great option that are well ground, reasonably priced, and feature the Triad Lock. Only concern is thickness in the pocket and often-tight clips.
The respect you show here almost makes this knife sound like a beefy gem. Were it sized a bit more"normally" work even a slight bump in steel at the same price I have a feeling you'd have placed that title in it without reservation.
As a guy with big hands I think this bears serious consideration despite my snobbery about the steel...
There's nothing wrong with the steel for this size blade, it's heat treated very well and has edge retention of VG10 or better. Years ago people saw VG10 as a super steel in regards to edge retention.
Big freakin knife!!
I think it takes a "larger set of hands" to manipulate it well when it is open... 'cause it is a huge effing knife!!! Um, yeah.
For serious hard use some people may be wearing gloves as well.
As a kid who grew up on a cattle ranch in the woods, I love seeing the unique look Nick has on knives that I see a lot of in my everyday life and consider quite normal. Proud to be part of the jackassery community😂 Keep up the good work, Nick
It's a "Billy" knife. Big and Silly. Nice.
Nick downed a bottle of Coca Cola before this review lol. I'm a big jackassy knife guy so I love this at this price. Not so sadly my big jackassy knive money went on the ZT 0452 cf. AND IM LOVING IT!
just picked one up amazon has em on sale right now for 65.00 !! i chouldnt pass it up
I saw that, but I'm afraid it may be fake. I remember on one of Nick's videos he said beware of low prices, and, he mentioned Amazon specifically. I'll buy mine from a licensed dealer. I'll pay a little more, however, It's worth it to me to not have to deal with returning something.
Great review Nick, you made some very good points. I have many Cold Steel knives, and I do like this one, however at the price point I don't see why you would buy this over the SR1. Most of the time I see this knife and the SR1 around the same price or like a $10-20 difference. The SR1 is also a tank of a knife, but has a much more usable blade and is a bit more pocket friendly. Also the SR1 comes with S35VN steel and g10 handle scales, so much tougher in both aspects to the Scouts materials. I'm sure it's a fun knife to have, but I'd much rather have the SR1 as my tanky folder to the Scout, just seems like a much better deal.
The Espada is big and jackassey, the Scout is the knife you throw in the trunk in case you find yourself unexpectedly out in the woods, or, somewhere.
They are selling. Nick, I cant help missing Lynn Thomson's pig chopping videos!
It's a tent-peg carving knife for a Sasquatch !
& Buffalo Skinner !
I already have an AD-10. Do I need this?
They are pretty similar, Andrew Demko himself even said the 4-Max was designed to be an XL version of the AD-10. The Scout is a bigger & heavier knife but the AD-10 is made from more premium materials (better blade steel & contoured G10 handles). Both are equally tough & durable. 👍
@@Hunterssoldier Ok. I just ordered one.
Seems kinda small.
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Cool looking, to big for me, would be Nice for a camping trip.
"If you're takin' it out to da woods and jack assin' it some"...Nick has the best color commentary and tone in the YT knife game. LMAO...props not a dis
LoL u are so right about the jackassy crow being the target market. Otherwise a voyager large + either a strongarm or a buck 119 would be a better choice (even a buck 120 if u want a little excitement in life)
Cannot see what the fuss over its size is about.
It's easy to carry than a fixed blade and lighter, doesn't need a sheaf.
It's at the lower end of blade size for doing 'stuff' in the bush / woods / scrub lands
The only question is: will it stand up to the impact stresses of processing wood.
Mechanically, it comes down to the pivot folding mechanism, can it hold up ?
Nick, you should have done the review in your back yard smashing wood up,
not on your delicate jewellery mat.
Peace Jackasses x.
This is the first time you didnt call a CS "murdery".
I took off the thumb stud off and shake it out or use two hands so as not to stampede the sheepe ! And I do edc it ! But I also carry a small knife to use in high sheeple areas
Cold steel screws are heat treated if you're not careful you'll tear up your bits using them on the screws!
"This is a big, goofy, jackassy knife" ... I wish I could select these filters when searching for a knife from online retailers.
I always loved the 4max design but didn’t feel like spending this kind of money on a knife with a design that calls for hard work wich would probably harm the knife in one way or the other. Just as you said this is within my comfort range where I have a good quality knife that doesn’t brake the bank (although it will break a table) that I can use. I was a bit unsure about the AUS10a steel but if it performs like it‘s pictured in the tests I won’t have a problem with that. In conclusion I’ll definitely pick one up.
I killed a Boar with mine! It's a MONSTAH!!!
It looks like the AD10's big brother.
It is
There is this weird observation that I attribute to quantum field theory, but for some inexplicable reason Cold Steel knives like the AD10, Code4, and Formax carry much much smaller than the monsters they are.
I can’t afford a Medford , so I’ll take this and a ad10
We’re close to the apocalypse, This is the one you need