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Cornball as in someone trying to be cool but isn't. I feel like she's lying about not knowing about the abuse and he knows she knows it. She scared of the haters so she switched up. She got hate for it and instead of defending him or ignoring the hate she said she WAS a fan not IS a fan just to try and please or stop the hate. That's what it seems like anyways.
The Jin carry was FANTASTIC ABSOLUTELY FUNNY NO SHAME AT ALL!! I WOULD LUV TO HEAR JIN'S OPINION BUT HE SHOULDN'T THINK ANYTHING BUT IT WAS FUNNY I HOPE.
NEVER BETTER IS A AMERICAN SAYIN THAT'S BEEN AROUND 4EVER SO V SAYING IT WAS JUST GREAT IT SHOWS HE KNOWS MORE THEN BOTH OF U GUYS DID IT SAUD IN AMERICA ALL OVER THANK U VERY MUCH!!!!!
With the Ashton and Jin thing, as Korean American, I was torn. On the one hand, I could see it as being a bit too familiar, because Asians bow in greeting for a reason. We don't welcome strangers touching us. But, on the other hand, having grown up in the US, I can understand the context in that it was simply western friendliness and good-natured guy stuff. As far as Jin goes, I imagine he was a bit embarrassed, but he seemed to understand the friendly intent and smiled while it was going on, just as Jimin did when Ashton carried him like a giant plushy (which I thought was adorable). Even in western society, it's not necessarily MEANT to embarrass, it's just a side effect. It's just like playing a friendly joke on someone, meant for a laugh and smiles, no real ill intent behind it, but the person being poked isn't the most comfortable. But everyone is aware of the lighthearted intention, so no one is really upset. Personally, I think Ashton is a closet ARMY and was thrilled for a chance to hang out and play with the boys.
My entire family chuckled about Jin being sack carried by Ashton. I didn’t realize it could be an issue at all since the guys seemed to have fun. Yes Jinnie was embarrassed but I think this was a good skit to include everyone without the language barrier being a problem. Should Ashton not have done that because they didn’t know each other or because it was on TV? I think so long as they had fun and were treated well and made them comfortable as Tae and Hobi both said in the Vlive right after the show was aired, we should just enjoy bangtan making friends. Ashtons a good guy, and he was willing to treat bangtan as just another group of guys in a game of hide and seek. No awkwardness or rudeness, just laughs. But that’s just my humble opinion.
I thought Ashton carrying Jin was hilarious - I also thought it was pretty evident it was discussed beforehand - Jin very quickly got into position to get picked up - I think Jin would've acted differently if it was totally unexpected.
When BTS appeared on a Korean show Running Men they were also flung aroung by the cast members and I don't remember anyone complaining over that. I would be a bit taken aback too if sbd picked me up and carried me like that but at the end of the day the only person who can say if they were uncomfortable or not is Jin and only Jin. Fans don't need to speak FOR him.
Yeah, I’m Arabic and I used this phrase in Arabic and in English I mean I heard it before not just in harry potter It’s all correct and universally used
“Never better” & “not in my vocabulary” are both universal and Tae used them correctly. It trended because it was so cute and his confidence was awesome. Ashton’s personality is extremely goofy and playful. From what I saw everyone LOVED it and you can hear Jin cracking up while being carried. It was so fun and lighthearted!
They looked so comfortable on the show and the vibe was so lighthearted and genuine. I think everything was fine. Jin was cracking up. Also, Taehyung was so cute when he said that. I was like “staaaaahp” 😂
James Corden:"Ashton bring the boys back here one by one" Ashton: "Once I find them I have to bring them back?" James: "You find one, you bring them back. First one to find 4 wins" So Ashton being the funny jokester he is, took that literally and "brought" back Jimin and Jin. Even with Jungkook, he full bear-hug grabbed him to bring him back. At least that's the way I interpreted it. No ill intent whatsoever, just Ashton being himself and having fun with the boys.
Also, Ashton was on That's 70's Show, and he hosted Punk'd plus like a whole bunch of comedy movies. I'm pretty sure it's in his DNA to do things in the most funny way. I thought it was cute on how shy Jin got when he was being carried.
People are overreacting about Jin. It’s a game, people were having fun, he carried Jimin and he basically huged JK too. It’s common to be touchy in the western side of the world, people are making a big deal out of nothing
Isn't being touchy more of an eastern thing? Since people are all 'oh, they're touching each other's legs they must be gay' about k-pop artists being touchy... I don't see anything wrong with what he did... He literally brought the members he found back. And James held Taehyung, and Yoongi's hands as he led them back... can't remember if he did the same with Hobi and RM...
"I've never been better", "never been better", and "never better" are all equally and commonly used, at least in my area which is in the Midwest part of the US. In fact, never better is probably the one I hear the most. It's one of my dad's fav phrases lol.
It's very common for any English speaker to say "never better" instead of "I've never been better". V used to properly. The thing with Jin and Ashton is also a very common level of playfulness for American talk shows. Shaquille O'neal once lifted tiny as Kevin Hart over his head on national TV. It's nothing out of the ordinary, for Western viewers at least.
I wouldn’t enjoy being carried over some guy‘s shoulder on TV. Especially if I didn’t know him. BUT Jin obviously did. xD I don‘t understand how someone could watch that and not see that he was having fun. It was a risk for sure, I don’t think that was scripted. Jin looked way too surprised. But it worked out.
@@fanfune It's common either way. You think Ashton was long time friends with every celebrity he "punk'd" back in the day? That Graham Norton is on a personal level with every guest before he starts asking probing sexual questions for laughs? Only uptight k-pop fans are making something out of this nothing right now. The general viewing public didn't blink twice. It was probably one of the more innocent and wholesome things to happen on that show.
Hoseok’s english honestly impressed me so much lately, esp there is something sweet about his accent !! he’s also good at Japanese too! his lately famous “ I don’t care” basically ruined me !! his english is so softie and lovely !! 🥺🥺 omo ! And I won’t forget to mention Tae baby too, he improved alot too.❤️
VIDA H . Yes. Hobi’s English got really impressive lately I think he’s the 2nd member next to Namjoon who speaks well English. And his accent too, I agree is really cute and special that I’d love to listen to him speak more.
Hobi is a very hard worker. It's not to say the rest aren't, but he always tries to use his English skills every time they are in the States. Jhope doesn't shy away like the rest who are not as confident as him. Although, I have heard Yoongi speaking English well, also.⚜️
Actually I think that hide and seek game was funny. Yesterday in vlive Taehyung and Hoseok said that James was really nice to them, they enjoyed the shooting and that they felt really comfortable there. Tae also said that it was environment that he haven't felt for a long time.
Yes they looked so happy and comfortable. And I was happy to see that after seeing how uncomfortable they looked at the iheart live. I really hope they don't do those anymore.
Tae is a BS radar. He and Yoongi will only engage fully in an interview or show with their happy smiles if they feel comfortable. You can tell how happy they were at the show.
@@vw2770 I was acutely worried about him at the Grammys he was totally not into it (the red carpet at least) , he was quite lukewarm at iHeart but we got out fun goofball back at the Late Late Show thank goodness... They finally had fun, it didn't sound or feel like work for them I'm sure 💜
@@jocelyn9744 James and Jimmy so far have been the only hosts to genuinely take a liking to them as people not just good ratings... They both made sure to make things less awkward and more relaxed considering the multicultural context 👍🏾💜👏🏾💜 I always worry when they go to the US but not this time - seeing Suga or V smiling always warms my heart
“Never Better” and “it’s not in my vocabulary” Aren’t wrong and not super rare. They’re just seen as sly, smart or clever phrases I think that’s what made it cute
Hey there- "Never Better" is American/English slang/ phrasing. He said it right. It just means you're doing extremely well. And it didn't just come from Harty Potter lol Edited to add* That situation with Jin was just Western playfulness. I can see he was a bit uncomfortable, but it wasn't being done as a sign of disrespect or challenge of his manliness (which I kind of suspect you all felt a bit toward that end of the spectrum 😬)- just light-hearted joking around. Part of the culture here. 🤷🏾♀️
Ashton also has quite the comedic repertoire in his career, so physical comedy like this is not outside the norm for him. Ashton is known as a pretty larger-than-life guy.
It’s not in my vocabulary - when Tae said that, it was in the context of when asked, what do you do if you mess up in a routine? It was like him saying “I don’t mess up.”
i absolutely laughed when Ashton found Jin and carried him all the way to the stool. That was a game that looked so fun and enjoyable to all involved. Trust me BigHit would be suing Ashton and James Cordan if they felt Jin had been wronged in any way. So if BigHit and Jin are okay with it then the opinions of others is truly irrelevant. People taking things to seriously is the problem with this world. Learn to relax and just have a good laugh without dissecting every little thing.
It would be a stupid move to sue James Corden or Ashton for Bighit. They would lose a majority of their advertisement and there would be another culture clash with the western, and there would be criticism to BTS that they would sue by getting physically carried. Jin might've been uncomfortable, yes, but hardly anything to escalate the situation over. Clearly it's the ARMY misjudging/escalating the situation again, not a surprise.
BitHit doesn't care much for one member in d group n will not go as far as to sue anyone when they get so much money from Western world , wat did they do about the tattoo controversy .....nothing much , bighit is afraid to lose fans n supporters
I didn't think that people would feel uncomfortable with the manhandling. From the way Jin reacted I don't think it was scripted but I'm sure he didn't mind, he was just flustered. I don't see it as the other guy trying to be all dominant or whatever... And on twitter no one seemed to think so either!
Yes the majority seems to think like this, but 'on twitter no one seemed to think so' is a strong statement. There are a few people even in this video's comments saying that they felt uncomfortable. Also cultural factors might kick in.
@@DKDKTV I think we all know that Jin is used to being manhandled by his members. It's nothing different but the online thing that is is that he was manhandled by someone he just met. So I see what everyone is saying but I don't think it has to do with culture difference bc of the reason I stated above in the first sentence
Remember on one of the BTS Run episode when they were recording a drama, Jungkook carried Jin over his shoulder. Remember BTS likes to have fun and this was a way for Ashton to add to the fun.
It's an idiomatic phrase, and idioms, by definition, don't follow "normal" grammar rules. Since it's idiomatically correct to say "never better," it's also grammatically correct.
Are we not going to talk about j-hope’s English? He has improved a lot and which is incredible judging by the fact that he was ranked last among the members!!! Now I think he’s second after RM About the whole Jin and Ashton thing, I never knew it was an issue until I saw this video and the comment section. I thought they were just having fun and Jin was laughing. Also Ashton did ask him if he was okay and we all know Ashton loves joking around. Honestly, if Armys continue to be sensitive on silly things this then you will only end up hurting the members because no tv show, celebrity etc would want to associate with them cause nobody wants that sort of unwarranted negativity...so chill!!!
Shannon B. Exactly. So many women have been brave enough to speak up about his behavior towards women. So I don’t understand why David needs “evidence to be proven guilty”. All the evidence is out already.
Honestly it’s probably because most Americans aren’t very good at speaking English themselves. Did you see that the average American knows 0.8 languages, whereas places like the UK is more like 2.3 languages.
When Ashton carried Jin back to seat, he put Jin down right on the chair spot, then Ashton even bended down to check if Jin is alright because he quickly noticed Jin's red face and felt it might scared Jin a little bit, so he patted gently on Jin's shoulder for few times. TBH I didn't see any uncomfortable behaviors in that scene because everyone knows it's for the show and Ashton showed full respect and care to all BTS members. Even Ashton did the similar action to Jimin at first and after he put Jimin down he checked on Jimin's status as well. It might have potential dangerous in this game because it's a whole studio interaction and don't we need to be thankful and appreciated to James and Ashton who protects our boys safety first??? I don't understand where are those "uncomfortable" come from lol.
you right. they both just making it an issue and give an idea to some people to push the wrong narrative. i mean why focus on useless thing rather than talk about they got a nice promo or good perfomance, their vocals etc.
A.D H Right??? I’m glad our boys has opportunity to promote this time, and this show probably is their best show in US I’ve ever seen. James and Ashton are like the parents on the stage, and I just hate people when they know nothing behind the camera, those people only see what they see...👀
Like, I can see why ppl, espcially asians, may be uncomfortable because of the cultural diferences and the western stereotype that often emasculates asian men due to their size difference. Picking them up like that could definitely be seen as offensive. However, being an american I know that to break up awkwardness around strangers, we dont just cross boundaries, but SMASH through them to lighten up the atmosphere. I know as an american he didnt mean any harm, I found it funny too, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think it was gonna upset some ppl.
cim sim I understand your point on culture differences, but ppl are pinking out the idea of “ a western muscle guy carried Asian emasculated guy” and put culture differences as a title of it. Ashton did this to other western guests as well before, and that won’t be a problem at all because they’re all “western”. Using this to attack somebody is unfair to both Ashton and BTS, why and how ppl would take “first impressions are the strongest” on BTS that they look small and emasculated? Why and how ppl have the rights to put these labels on them tho?
@@yinggu2873 .....what are you talking about? lol. I see the word "western" triggered you for some reason. who did I label? I never "labeled" anyone as "western" so Im confused as to why you brought that up 3 times in reference to humans. You just misconstrued the words and labeled everyone lmao. I said there is a WESTERN STEREOTYPE as in a STEREOTYPE that exists in the WEST. There IS a stereotype that exists in the part of the world called the WESTERN part of the world (which essentially means europe and america) that asian men are not as masculine. This stereotype is often seen in many forms such as patronizing asian men for differences in their physical build or de-aging them. I'm positive (eastern) asian ppl in are aware and offended by this stereotype. Therefore an action such as picking these grown men up without knowing them is a bit disrespectful in their culture (but understandably, when in rome...) AND plays into the stereotype that often de-ages them and patronizes their different build. As an american who knows how americans are...I KNOW Ashton wasnt TRYING to offend them or anyone else. I'm just saying, I can see why ppl are uncomfortable by the action. Like think about it... why did most ppl find it cute? Why did ppl not react much with jimin, but did with jin? Its very simple. I dont agree with ppl coming for Ashton's neck, but I see how his action could unintentionally made some uncomfortable. Especially if they have experienced ppl acting in accordance to this stereotype, as I guess danny and david might have.
"It's not in my vocabulary" is definitely a phrase in English. How can people forget the iconic Princess Diaries 2 moment: "Fear is not in my vocabulary!" "Perhaps... but it is in your eyes."
In this context, what he meant by cornball is “lame”. Like she asked him for a photo, probably sucked up a little, posted the picture, but as soon as she got backlash she flip flops and talks about him. That’s a CORNBALL move.
Okay, so saying something isn't "in your vocabulary" is completely correct. Your vocabulary is the body of words you use in your language. It's a common saying in the US, though it might not be considered modern slang. Same with "never better". I was actually very impressed with V's use of the former, since that's a difficult word to say, and he likely consulted others (possibly Namjoon) before coming up with it. But yeah, can we talk about Hobi's English, because WOW I've been so impressed wit him. He just keeps getting better and better and is clearly becoming a lot more comfortable with answering questions off the cuff.
Hoop Monster Fr I always say never better. And the fact that he said it without a strong Korean accent was shocking. I was proud. But yes Hobi English is improving sooooo much. And Suga knows a lot of English but just doesn’t know how to form sentences which is still okay. Tae is the opposite like he doesn’t know many words but forming sentences is pretty easy for him. Hobi is just adorable overall cuz he always asks rm about words and practices saying things a lot☺️😂
EXACTLY I'm so proud of Hobi's english lately, he's gotten so good! Every time he opens his mouth to say somethin I'm constantly surprised at how well formed his sentences and pronunciation are! 😭😭😭
"In your vocabulary" is definitely used in English, although "I don't even know the meaning of the word ____!" is probably a more common version of the same thing. I assumed he meant that he is such a good dancer that he does not know the meaning of the word "mistake." But in his VLive, he said he memorized it as a random phrase he could use to get out of questions he did not know how to answer, lol.
“Never better” is slang, used sarcastically, and often said here rather than using an entire sentence. Phrase has been around long before Harry Potter. Tae’s phrase is also used in a joking manner here. I found it clever from an American point of view. Jin’s reaction when found made me laugh. As for Ashton carrying him, I am sure Ashton did not know a Korean would be so uncomfortable with what was considered a joke here. As someone else wrote, Ashton was pretending that James’s instruction to “bring them back “ literally meant to physically bring them back.
"It originates from Harry Potter" I'm dying. "Never better" and "Not in my vocabulary" are common Western colloquialisms that have been around for decades. All sayings have an origin, but these are definitely well before the 21st century. The Ashton Kutcher playing around is common on our talk shows at least but it was kind of awkward since they didn't know each other, they hadn't even been introduced but Jin took it in stride. When learning a new language people have to remember that there is the grammatically correct way of speaking, then there's how locals actually use it in conversation (colloquially ((big words lol))). I'm surprised and proud at how Hobi and V both responded and used English how a native speaker would. It was cute because they were saying what we normally say. This is obnoxiously long, sorry.
For real. I was so confused lol. Harry Potter didn’t start that phrase, and it’s not just in the UK. I’ve been hearing both of the phrases for decades in the US. And funnily enough, I think they should understand that colloquial speech doesn’t always follow grammar rules, because Korean is one of the biggest language offenders of ignoring grammar for the sake of shortening things
"Never Better" has been a term I've heard and used for years before Harry Potter (I'm American). Same with "Not in my vocabulary." Tae used both terms correctly
foxlunacy I agree. Usually used sarcastically. For example, when you have a very bad cold, and a person asks you “how are you?” You respond in a voice that makes it obvious that you are the opposite of “never better”. It means I feel awful! I think it is clever of Tae to use that phrase when he doesn’t now the English words to answer. I am an American and found the skit very amusing. But am sorry if they felt uncomfortable
I’m British, never better is rarely used sarcastically here, it’s always been part of our vocabulary and V used it perfectly. Same goes for “not in my vocabulary”, it’s a British term, I think V has picked up British English more than American, which is why some Americans keep on making an issue sort of, even thought he did nothing wrong.
@@ibelieveinyourgalaxy I'm surprised by the reaction, because "Never better" and "Not in my vocabulary" used in the way he is using them has always been very common here in America, too. At least where I grew up. I asked some co-workers, who all grew up in different parts of the US, and vary culturally, and they said the same. Maybe it just isn't used as commonly now, but I kinda find that hard to believe. I dunno. 🤷🏽♀️
@@foxlunacy I'm American. Lived pretty much my whole life in Seattle. Those two phrases are not "commonly" used but its "common" enough that pretty much everyone know it. Hope I'm making sense. It's like people people don't often use it but they know it.
“Never Better” phrase has been around long before the Harry Potter books or movies, so I would not say that it originated through Hermione...people became more aware of the phrase primarily due to the popularity of the movie series with so many people watching it. I have used this phrase myself over 40 years ago and I am 62. In fact, I wrote this phrase in a letter to my mom when I was younger. I am an American.
Exactly. I was surprised when David said ppl are commenting that it's grammatical 🤨. I mean I've been using "Never better" for decades... long before Harry Potter, bcos obviously it's a common phrase in a conversation. Just like, if somebody greets you, "Hi, morning!" and you answer, "Morning!" - this is perfectly fine. Nobody expects you to say, "Hi, good morning to you too!" I mean, who speak a language in the "proper well-structured form" with friends? Ppl might think you're weird, unless you are giving a speech in a formal event 😅.
I've been using 'never better' and 'oh that's not in my dictionary' for as long as I can remember, which pre-dates Harry Potter (am turning 30 later this year) because of family and friends. English sort of doesn't use proper sentences unless in a formal setting or in writing.
Thank U so much I WAS SO SHOCKED AT WHAT THEY SAID IT IS A SAYIN THAT HAS BEEN AROUND MY HOLE LIFE I'M 57 & AMERICAN THESE...KIM TAEHYUNG (V) IF BTS KNOWS MORE THEN BOTH OF THESE GUYS U CAN SPEAK ENGLISH SO VERY WELL SHOWS HE'S BEEN PAYING ATTENTION. LOVE BTS🌬💜💜💜💜💜💜🤟🙏💜💜🌬💋💋💋💋💋💋
Exactly! Completely overthinking and overanalyzing something that was actually done correctly! You would think they would do their research first before saying anything in regards to this. They would have simply found out that both are phrases that are used commonly amongst English speaking people. 🤦♀️
Noo, for iKONICs hashtags have significance tbh! YGE already tried to steal Hanbin's songs without saying it's his songs (for Eun Jiwon's album) but iKONICs recognised the songs (as Hanbin shared the demos with fans before) and it was wild trending #CreditHanbin worldwide. After that YG admitted 2 songs were his and credited him in KOMCA rightfully. And now they had to release an explanation and they also credited him in poster cuz they were scared iKONICs would riot again xD So it's a win! At least somehow we can get YGE to listen... But with that explanation they also threw other #iKON members under the bus, not just B.I, as they said "we couldn't make new songs in 8 months" (yeah, not like they have 3 other songwriters/composers in the group?? but they preferred adding dates to their tour so members weren't even in Korea, and they DID write new songs but YGE released them unofficially in January, I still can't understand what's their strategy...) iKONICs were also furious as it seems like other members were told to be useless. And brought attention about scandal. Nice promo for a comeback, yeah?
"Never better" and "It's not in my vocabulary" are both commonly used terms. Usually, there are two cases when someone would say "Never better": 1. If they are actually doing very well 2. If they are being sarcastic about doing fine. I often hear "Never better" being used in the second way more so than the first, but both often occur. Also, I think that it was trending because we don't often hear V, or any member other than RM, on English TV shows, speak in English so it was a really big deal. I personally thought all the boys did a great job and that J-Hope's English was phenomenal! Also, the thing with Jin I didn't think much of it because it is common to play around by picking people up. I don't know the nature of Jin and Ashton's relationship but it was definitely not meant to be disrespectful or even to assert dominance.
how come everyones talking about Jin, but no one mentioned that he picked up Jimin first? or how about the dumb fan that GRABBED Jin while he was defenseless??? hmmmm. priorities people.
The same fan did it twice too! To RM and Jin. Yikes. Its the sort of behaviour well thinking members of the fan base frown upon. You don't touch the guys without their permission.
Actually, in America, if someone were to answer a question with "Never better," it would be clearly understood and not sound like a foreigner speaking. In fact, I've heard it numerous times. I was born in America and English is my mother language. In regular conversations, we don't always speak in complete sentences & grammar isn't that big of a deal--that judgment is done more by people who think they are above other people. It's a snooty thing to correct someone else's grammar, unless they are your child or student. Friends do it to help each other, but "Never better" is completely right--in real life. I just wanted to let people who are learning American English know this. My Korean language partners ask me about these strange uses of grammar we use in our everyday conversations & I'm just starting to learn those used in Korean conversations. I'm still a beginner in Korean. (Why can't I learn faster?!) Thank you for your videos, guys! You're helping me to better understand the country I want to visit. I like how you're open and honest about the negatives about the country and its people. Every country has the same things: prejudice, injustice, crime, and real human beings with many different personalities, weaknesses and strengths. I love the reality you speak. Keep it up & I will keep watching!!!
First off, V's responses were perfect for the questions. "Never Better" is used a lot in the U.S. And the "not in my vocabulary" is also used often. As for Ashton's manhandling Jin - it was the highlight of the night and many of us enjoyed it. It's not anything to be embarrassed about. People on the show were having a great time and it's how we have fun. I loved the entire show and would not do away with anything on there, at all. It's what made it go viral.
About the Chris Brown thing- I'd like to point out that he has been charged with several other recorded incidents of abuse/domestic violence against different women, all of which have happened since Rihanna (in which he beat her nearly to death). So it's a little bit of a big deal that Ailee took a picture with him, and as to her not knowing that that happened, I'm not sure if that's true because you didn't have to watch the news to find that out. I didn't watch the news as a kid and I still heard about it when it happened...
I personally think V's usage of 'Never Better' was cute and all good. There was no intent to question his English skills. People were happy and excited about him using the phrase and there were quirky conversations on whether it is grammatically right or not. I simply brought those conversations to the table. Note that not all English users are American or British. Just for instance, 125 million speak English only in India and 100 million in the Philippines. So I can understand that grammar could be discussed about for people who aren't familiar with slang or expressions :)
This statement is kinda irrelevant though because English comes from England and Americans often speak the original language before it was changed in England, so shouldn't you have just consulted the originators of the language, not people with second hand adaptation. No shade, love yall. lol
Yeah well, still "never better" it's legit english, everyone says it, i've seen it in movies and tv shows, it's literally just english ㅋㅋㅋㅋ It trended bc it's cool that he used such an expression that's so typically used by someone who knows the language well... ppl that don't know much eng would just answer "good/okay" or whatever..."never better" just makes u feel like u know the language a bit more(which is not necessarily true,it's just a feeling) ... plus he says it so cutely... so it trended.
I know you're not trying to call V out for poor English skills or anything, but arguing that the expression isn't grammatically correct is just pretty pedantic and pointless tbh. Yeah, sure, it isn't technically the proper way to phrase it, academically speaking, but nobody cares. This was a casual situation, not an academic one, and he spoke English perfectly well, even if it was only a couple of expressions. There's nothing grammatically incorrect about what he said, given the context. Both phrases are legit English that anyone in the Western hemisphere might say. Also, similar expressions exist in all sorts of languages and cultures around the world.
Never better is exactly how it's used here in the state side. We don't speak in grammatical correctness when we speak. Most of the time we tend to use abbreviated forms of speech and/or slangs. So Tae Tae was SPOT on with his usage "never better". Side note: Boys all looked so good!!! Loved their confidence too! 🥰
@@vanessaives40 Pure speculation but I wonder if his time in LA for CNS helped him become more comfortable with it. He even seemed a bit more confident during Bon Voyage in NZ.
Jin hiding his face with a picture of himself was hilarious. Ashton carrying Jin and even Jimin was funny. The members seemed to enjoy it too They've been in an interview with Ashton before so they might know each other. I know some Karmys might not like it but they can get over it.
I think Ashton carrying Jin was hilarious. You can even hear Jin's iconic laugh. They were having a good time. I like how they're getting more comfortable on US tv.
I agree, I think he is trying to carry all the boys that he caught but when he got to JK he gave up, JK is the heaviest in the group.He just guide him back to his chair.
"When in Rome" it's perfectly fine what was done to him on the show. If anyone wants to complain about it, it should be Jin. Being offend for him is ridiculous.
The thing is a lot of ikonics were angry at how YGE keeps blaming Hanbin for the delay as if the company has nothing to do with him leaving and YGE wrote a whole statement were they imply that they NEED his songs but puts all the blame on him at the same time, they could have shown a bit of respect specially since Hanbin can't speak up for himself. And we were also very worried about him being credited or not because this summer YGE released 2 of his songs on Eun Ji Won's album without any credit, thankfully Hanbin had shared one of the demos on vlive before and ikonics called YGE out, which resulted in him being credited on KOMCA (3 months later). Thankfully, it seems like YGE has learnt something and Hanbin is on the credits this time. I hope iKON can get a lot of support the 6th of February and Hanbin does too whenever he comes back, they're great guys and deserve all the love
Jin was laughing and smiling the whole time he was being carried by Ashton. Also if he wanted to be put down he knows how to say stop and Ashton would have put him down. It was all in fun of the game and Jin imo didn’t look uncomfortable
Actually, Tae's usage of those phrases were correct. Jin being carried was fine. The boys seemed so comfortable, and the boys said they had a good time at James Corden.
it was the funniest part of the show with Ashton - no need to create what isn't there lol - nobodu normal though that Jin was humiliated, it actually showed that they are fun people down to earth - which is really important these days. would it be better if they were stoic? no
It’s Ashton Kutcher guys... he’s literally one of the nicest guys in Hollywood, and not just for show either. Also, V’s phrases are very commonly used here in the States. I think fans were just surprised by his English.
I have a friend who's family is in lockdown in Wuhan and her mother told her mostly people were just chill and only left their houses when necessary. Her mother said the number of actual infected people were 90k but idk how true that is, taking into consideration that the symptoms are the same as normal, common illnesses
Purity Benson there was an audience member who tried to grab jins hand which is a violation of privacy especially knowing how crazy the fans are. it’s not about him being a “god” it’s called personal space
Honestly when you started talking about manhandling I automatically just thought of the girl who grabbed Jin's hand. What Ashton did seemed fine and when I have played hide and seek with people my age and a little older this is how we have played before. Especially if it has a time limit and whoever finds the most wins type of game. I just think it's being blown out of proportion especially since they said they had fun and enjoyed it on the Vlive.
i didn't realize ashton picking up jin during the hide n seek game was controversial/problematic... it's normal to be a bit physical in those sorts of games in north america, especially on entertainment shows
Lily Rose I know right, the fact this is even an issue is embarrassing, especially to the fandom. It just makes ARMYs seem so sensitive about everything.
alperry02 I know that majority of the fandom has no problem with it, but it’s annoying how there’s always a small minority that makes the rest of the ARMYs look bad.
@@MrChannelforwatching yeeeaahh. Lol. I'm saying ,me personally, I haven't seen any army having a problem. Not on Twitter, yt , anywhere . I've only seen these hosts mention at as issue🤷🏽♀️
"Never Better" is grammatically correct. Its just a shorter version of "I've never been better" or "Never been better". Its like a casual conversational phrase.
The "not in my vocab" is I think a universal term. I think it only trended coz tae said it naturaly??? Like not scripted at all. And he was so laid back i kinda thought he was studying english like jk. lol at this point BTS breathes and they'd trend so I'm not surprised
I was really impressed by Taehyung's English and how surprisingly natural it was. Everything he said was perfect and I can tell that he's been studying a lot
I thought he did too but if you watched their Vlive later, V said when he doesn't understand something that is his go to line. I think he honestly didn't understand, BUT with how the question was asked it totally came across as he's a perfectionist hahah it was cute.
Ok so the phrases “Never better” and “not in my vocabulary” are very colloquial. It doesn’t sound unnatural at all. On the contrary, he sounds fluent af
Not defending Ailee but remember she was training and just starting her career at around the time that incident was an issue, in Korea. So, she genuinely may not have known.
Lele Lu she was still living in the US when it happened, also she claims to have been a fan of him so it’s peculiar that she wouldn’t know that it happened as well as all of the other terrible things he’s done since then. It’s not just the one incident
I'm from australia V's comments were spot on , and the way Ashton carried Jin is quite ok. I'm 62 and watch your show all the time thank you for brightening my day.
Honestly I felt a little bit uncomfortable in the beginning. I thought they might been embarrassed but then I saw they were having fun and later on a v-live, Taehyung said they felt very comfortable on the Show.
V said they felt comfortable, but that wasn't Jimin or Jin speaking. If they had felt uncomfortable they probably wouldn't tell the public in fear that Army would go after Kutcher. I'm sure they understood Kutcher meant no harm, but that doesn't mean they enjoyed being manhandled. I felt uncomfortable watching it, and embarrassed for them. I thought Jin looked embarrassed covering his face and his ears were red. It was funny enough when Kutcher startled Jin, he didn't have to do more.
@@issakimanid343 i mean that is embarrasing but also really funny for anyone, Jimin and Jin are not exception because they are asian. Also i don't know for you but i could clearly hear Jin laughing while being on Ashton's shoudler.
@@witchgroup I heard him laughing. Laughing isn't always associated with joy. I sometimes laugh when I'm nervous and uncomfortable, to cover up the fact that I'm nervous and uncomfortable. I don't think Kutcher was purposefully trying to make anyone feel bad. I don't think he is a bad person. I think he wasn't thinking about anything besides getting a laugh. He did it for a laugh, he did it for tv. If it was a good friend of his and that's how they behave with eachother it would be different. If it was a female group say Mamamoo, and he threw Hwasa over her shoulder and carried her like that people would not be laughing and thanking him for doing that to her, they would be more concerned about how she felt. I am a female, and I think both men and women should be treated with dignity and respect. I thought it was a careless act that made me feel uncomfortable for him.
??? "Never better" didn't originate from harry potter haha. Has always been very well used phrase in English speaking countries! Also, I think "Not in my vocabulary" is also a fairly well used phrase in English speaking countries, I've heard it lots of times in Canada!
These two expressions are widely used by non native speakers too in SEA countries. It's very common. It caught attention because Taehyung said them in a confident & cute way.
My thoughts: "Never been better or Never better" are both correct. It means you are always at your best. The phrase "It's not in my vocabulary" is also correct. It's somewhat an idiom that means-- it's not in my system to mess up something or making sure you are perfect always. So V is doing great for his answers. Those phrases are widely used here in my country. I guess those phrases trended because we were not expecting V to use those phrases and we find it so cute! As for me, as a fun loving person, there is nothing wrong with Ashton carrying Jin and I find it hilarious and cute. As for Jin who loves fun, I guess he didn't mind it unless Jin showed discomfort about it. But still all of us here are entitled to our own opinion and we have different perspective. ---------- but anyhow let's just spread love and kindness! Love you always baby Taehyungie. #V
“Never better” is actually an acceptable way of saying “I’ve never been better” its the same thing, just a shorter way. Like instead of saying “I have to go” some people say “gotta go” or things like that so... yea☺️
I never thought that Jin's part could be seen with such negativity... i'm sure ashton kutcher did it in a playful way, didn't mean to be disrespectful; it was just a game so it was supposed to be a "light" moment and that's what it seemed to me. Of course, Jin looked a bit embarrassed and if someone carried me that way I would have felt the same way, but I wouldn't have blamed the person who did it in a context like that. They were playing a game, he was in a rush, just picked him up and run. That's it. I hope Jin laughed about it rewatching it or thinking about it, there's no reason to be ashamed, it was just a game, he's still our worldwide handsome♡
Ppl are upset because there is a westerners have a history of emasculating asian men bc of their size in comparison to the avg westerner. I can see why they are upset, but I do think they are dragging it bc they are also not taking american culture and our lack of boundaries (in certain scenarios) into consideration.
cim sim cut the bullshit your whole half assed explanation has nothing to do with it. Ashton was just trying to be funny since he's a very goofy guy and he wasn't trying to "emasculate" asian men at all. When bts were on running men years ago , they were LITERALLY being swung and thrown around by the cast. Why wasn't there any backlash then?? Most of the fans who were upset weren't korean nor Asian but actually western, just those overprotective triggered 14 year old fangirls.
I find it weird that everyone keeps saying that Jin was uncomfortable because I was looking at Jimin after he was caught and he looked really uncomfortable and irritated. Jin just seemed shocked to me. I wasn’t uncomfortable with him picking up Jin but with Jimin I was ....😂😂😂😂 Also, David, “Never Better” and “Its not in my vocabulary “ are both English phrases that we use often. It was trending because English speakers were excited to hear V speak and be confident enough to use those phrases. And it was adorable to watch him look comfortable. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hide&seek was hilarious, I couldn't stop laughing. I was surprised that jimin was that quiet when Ashton brought Jin, bc he's always the one rolling on the floor, so I thought maybe they're not that comfortable, and I've seen them fooling around like that on vlive and run bts
I didn't realize that everything that happened with BTS on James Cordon was a big deal?? Tae's English was correct and it trended because US fans were happy and surprised that he spoke English. "Never Better" and "That's not in my vocabulary" are correct phrases and they're used often. Also, in America, being picked up like what Ashton did to Jin isn't necessarily a bad thing? I mean it's not something that someone would do to someone they don't know but because the show had a comfortable setting I imagine it was just spur of the moment and there wasn't any ill intent behind it. Most US fans thought it was hilarious which I think was what Ashton was going for because he's a funny guy.
"Never better" and "It's not in my vocabulary" are definitely used in the West. The Jin thing: I don't think it's a big deal. Jungkook has carried Jin over his shoulder too. But I get It's different when someone you don't know does it. However Ashton is a sweet dude and very goofy, I'm sure he didn't mean any harm in it. The man is an active contributor to stopping human trafficking. Furthermore anything involved with BTS on the show would have been previously agreed upon by Bangtan and thier management. It might have been a bit of culture shock to some, but rationally if anything was amiss, Bangtan's management wouldn't have allowed it to be on air.
I think one of the cutest clips of V was when James found him and was walking him back out. He asked V if he saw the other members and V was so freaking adorable!
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Cornball as in someone trying to be cool but isn't. I feel like she's lying about not knowing about the abuse and he knows she knows it. She scared of the haters so she switched up. She got hate for it and instead of defending him or ignoring the hate she said she WAS a fan not IS a fan just to try and please or stop the hate. That's what it seems like anyways.
The Jin carry was FANTASTIC ABSOLUTELY FUNNY NO SHAME AT ALL!! I WOULD LUV TO HEAR JIN'S OPINION BUT HE SHOULDN'T THINK ANYTHING BUT IT WAS FUNNY I HOPE.
NEVER BETTER IS A AMERICAN SAYIN THAT'S BEEN AROUND 4EVER SO V SAYING IT WAS JUST GREAT IT SHOWS HE KNOWS MORE THEN BOTH OF U GUYS DID IT SAUD IN AMERICA ALL OVER THANK U VERY MUCH!!!!!
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With the Ashton and Jin thing, as Korean American, I was torn. On the one hand, I could see it as being a bit too familiar, because Asians bow in greeting for a reason. We don't welcome strangers touching us. But, on the other hand, having grown up in the US, I can understand the context in that it was simply western friendliness and good-natured guy stuff. As far as Jin goes, I imagine he was a bit embarrassed, but he seemed to understand the friendly intent and smiled while it was going on, just as Jimin did when Ashton carried him like a giant plushy (which I thought was adorable). Even in western society, it's not necessarily MEANT to embarrass, it's just a side effect. It's just like playing a friendly joke on someone, meant for a laugh and smiles, no real ill intent behind it, but the person being poked isn't the most comfortable. But everyone is aware of the lighthearted intention, so no one is really upset. Personally, I think Ashton is a closet ARMY and was thrilled for a chance to hang out and play with the boys.
I was surprised that Ashton did that too, but it was so cute!
We can ask Jin if he prefers being manhandled by Ashton Kutcher or having a near death experience with a fruit shooting cannon 😂
AF lol
@@AF-ft6nh HAHAHAHAHA, this comment made me snort. xD
not all western countries have that in finland people would ve shocked too lol but i don’t think jin minded ashton was just being friendly
My entire family chuckled about Jin being sack carried by Ashton. I didn’t realize it could be an issue at all since the guys seemed to have fun. Yes Jinnie was embarrassed but I think this was a good skit to include everyone without the language barrier being a problem. Should Ashton not have done that because they didn’t know each other or because it was on TV? I think so long as they had fun and were treated well and made them comfortable as Tae and Hobi both said in the Vlive right after the show was aired, we should just enjoy bangtan making friends. Ashtons a good guy, and he was willing to treat bangtan as just another group of guys in a game of hide and seek. No awkwardness or rudeness, just laughs. But that’s just my humble opinion.
thanks for your opinion
I totally agree
Exactly 👏
I totally agree if the boys were comfortable then there isn't an issue!
I thought Ashton carrying Jin was hilarious - I also thought it was pretty evident it was discussed beforehand - Jin very quickly got into position to get picked up - I think Jin would've acted differently if it was totally unexpected.
Ashton manhandling jin while jin was holding a picture of himself which he took in the photobooth while hiding was the most iconic moment lol
"I'm going to hide my face- With a picture of my face."
I second this. They were playing a game.
Josie B. add jimin to ur list. but srsly how jimin easily picked up jin like that??
@@hananana1155 Jin probably weighs like 130lb max. A high school freshman could probably pick him up lol.
@@aaronrm92 Bro he's tall and very muscular, he's not that light lol
When BTS appeared on a Korean show Running Men they were also flung aroung by the cast members and I don't remember anyone complaining over that. I would be a bit taken aback too if sbd picked me up and carried me like that but at the end of the day the only person who can say if they were uncomfortable or not is Jin and only Jin. Fans don't need to speak FOR him.
Yup you have to share this. I think no one remember that apparently.
Which episode?
@ZoKi which episode?
It’s because us Americans are self hating. So they go all “how dare you” -Greta
Lol
“Never better” is correct English, it’s just shortened but it’s correct, V did good, especially his pronunciation
Yeah,
I’m Arabic and I used this phrase in Arabic and in English
I mean I heard it before not just in harry potter
It’s all correct and universally used
Correct.
Yeah True V's pronunciation was very good
Yeah his pronunciation is really good for a learner.
“Never better” & “not in my vocabulary” are both universal and Tae used them correctly. It trended because it was so cute and his confidence was awesome.
Ashton’s personality is extremely goofy and playful. From what I saw everyone LOVED it and you can hear Jin cracking up while being carried. It was so fun and lighthearted!
also taehyung and jhope both said that it was so comfortable being on the show. if jin was uncomfortable about that they would be so too
Exactly
You can neven see Ashton checking on Jin after he sat him down. He did the same with Jimin
They looked so comfortable on the show and the vibe was so lighthearted and genuine. I think everything was fine. Jin was cracking up. Also, Taehyung was so cute when he said that. I was like “staaaaahp” 😂
"Never better" exists just as it is, it's good!! "Not in my vocabulary" was universal as well :)
James Corden:"Ashton bring the boys back here one by one"
Ashton: "Once I find them I have to bring them back?"
James: "You find one, you bring them back. First one to find 4 wins"
So Ashton being the funny jokester he is, took that literally and "brought" back Jimin and Jin. Even with Jungkook, he full bear-hug grabbed him to bring him back. At least that's the way I interpreted it. No ill intent whatsoever, just Ashton being himself and having fun with the boys.
I found that very funny honestly
Jinnie Chimchim Oh he definitely decided to take it literally 😂
Also, Ashton was on That's 70's Show, and he hosted Punk'd plus like a whole bunch of comedy movies. I'm pretty sure it's in his DNA to do things in the most funny way. I thought it was cute on how shy Jin got when he was being carried.
Exactly...Ashton even quoted him and said ...BRING THEM BACK!!! So that's what he did lol
People are overreacting about Jin. It’s a game, people were having fun, he carried Jimin and he basically huged JK too. It’s common to be touchy in the western side of the world, people are making a big deal out of nothing
Fr tho it was so cute leave it like that people are b*tching over everything lately
Lol
@@blueangel1939 ikrr!
Isn't being touchy more of an eastern thing? Since people are all 'oh, they're touching each other's legs they must be gay' about k-pop artists being touchy... I don't see anything wrong with what he did... He literally brought the members he found back. And James held Taehyung, and Yoongi's hands as he led them back... can't remember if he did the same with Hobi and RM...
@@SnowxXxAngel Eastern thing is being touchy with people you're close to, western thing is being touchy with anyone.
"I've never been better", "never been better", and "never better" are all equally and commonly used, at least in my area which is in the Midwest part of the US. In fact, never better is probably the one I hear the most. It's one of my dad's fav phrases lol.
Yes exactly! I'm from the Midwest too, and here it's just a common saying, not necessarily a reference to the Harry Potter series.
Yeah, I'm South African, and I've heard people say "never better". It's a commonly used phrase. He said it really cutely, though.
"Never better" is not a UK phrase that was created by Harry Potter. It's a VERY common phrase in English speaking countries.
Alexis Yup they never said it was “created” by Harry Potter, but it is a very U.K. thing to say to be fair (from someone who comes from the U.K./Ire).
Yeah True
It's very common for any English speaker to say "never better" instead of "I've never been better". V used to properly.
The thing with Jin and Ashton is also a very common level of playfulness for American talk shows. Shaquille O'neal once lifted tiny as Kevin Hart over his head on national TV. It's nothing out of the ordinary, for Western viewers at least.
I wouldn’t enjoy being carried over some guy‘s shoulder on TV. Especially if I didn’t know him. BUT Jin obviously did. xD I don‘t understand how someone could watch that and not see that he was having fun. It was a risk for sure, I don’t think that was scripted. Jin looked way too surprised. But it worked out.
@@fanfune It's common either way. You think Ashton was long time friends with every celebrity he "punk'd" back in the day? That Graham Norton is on a personal level with every guest before he starts asking probing sexual questions for laughs? Only uptight k-pop fans are making something out of this nothing right now. The general viewing public didn't blink twice. It was probably one of the more innocent and wholesome things to happen on that show.
@o0Chachi0o Very true. It was a fun segment and everyone involved is an adult. No harm, no foul.
Ya true.. Nothing unusual.. It was pure fun & they enjoyed too.
@@NaughtyKittyKat To me, he looked embarrassed and was covering his face with the picture he took in the photo booth.
Hoseok’s english honestly impressed me so much lately, esp there is something sweet about his accent !! he’s also good at Japanese too! his lately famous “ I don’t care” basically ruined me !! his english is so softie and lovely !! 🥺🥺 omo !
And I won’t forget to mention Tae baby too, he improved alot too.❤️
VIDA H . Yes. Hobi’s English got really impressive lately I think he’s the 2nd member next to Namjoon who speaks well English. And his accent too, I agree is really cute and special that I’d love to listen to him speak more.
his Chinese accent is also pretty good too, we stan a talented king💜
Hobi is a very hard worker. It's not to say the rest aren't, but he always tries to use his English skills every time they are in the States. Jhope doesn't shy away like the rest who are not as confident as him. Although, I have heard Yoongi speaking English well, also.⚜️
honestly, one more tour and Hobi can split the translation duty with Namjoon :D
YASSS ppl need to talk more about Hobi’s English! He has improved so much with confidence and personality! ❤️
Actually I think that hide and seek game was funny. Yesterday in vlive Taehyung and Hoseok said that James was really nice to them, they enjoyed the shooting and that they felt really comfortable there. Tae also said that it was environment that he haven't felt for a long time.
Yes they looked so happy and comfortable. And I was happy to see that after seeing how uncomfortable they looked at the iheart live. I really hope they don't do those anymore.
Tae is a BS radar. He and Yoongi will only engage fully in an interview or show with their happy smiles if they feel comfortable. You can tell how happy they were at the show.
@@vw2770 I was acutely worried about him at the Grammys he was totally not into it (the red carpet at least) , he was quite lukewarm at iHeart but we got out fun goofball back at the Late Late Show thank goodness... They finally had fun, it didn't sound or feel like work for them I'm sure 💜
@@miim.kakhali You're right we should be very grateful to James Corden 💜 (the same host show who gave cupcakes to Armys that were waiting outside)
@@jocelyn9744 James and Jimmy so far have been the only hosts to genuinely take a liking to them as people not just good ratings... They both made sure to make things less awkward and more relaxed considering the multicultural context 👍🏾💜👏🏾💜 I always worry when they go to the US but not this time - seeing Suga or V smiling always warms my heart
“Never Better” and “it’s not in my vocabulary”
Aren’t wrong and not super rare.
They’re just seen as sly, smart or clever phrases
I think that’s what made it cute
The Jin/Ashton Kutcher "incident?" Honestly, y'all think too much.
Right? Netizens have no chill.
I’m surprised no one was upset that James called V “jungkook” twice
@@eblues132 He also called Jimin Jae-min. Lol. I was like...James...Tf? Please get their names right.
Hey there- "Never Better" is American/English slang/ phrasing. He said it right. It just means you're doing extremely well. And it didn't just come from Harty Potter lol
Edited to add* That situation with Jin was just Western playfulness. I can see he was a bit uncomfortable, but it wasn't being done as a sign of disrespect or challenge of his manliness (which I kind of suspect you all felt a bit toward that end of the spectrum 😬)- just light-hearted joking around. Part of the culture here. 🤷🏾♀️
Catherine Kent Agree
Agreed
Exactly lol it's not even that serious people needa lighten up and chill
Ashton also has quite the comedic repertoire in his career, so physical comedy like this is not outside the norm for him. Ashton is known as a pretty larger-than-life guy.
If people are offended by this, they should not see punk'd lol 😂
"it's not in my vocabulary" is something native english speakers would say. it's like a funny way to show your confidence
Bunny1412 I think it’s universal, because we have that phrase in danish as well.
@@zaracen9747 In Spanish too
I agree....A common phrase in English: "Failure is not in my vocabulary."
It’s not in my vocabulary - when Tae said that, it was in the context of when asked, what do you do if you mess up in a routine? It was like him saying “I don’t mess up.”
@@beatrizinfante3368 also in portuguese
i absolutely laughed when Ashton found Jin and carried him all the way to the stool. That was a game that looked so fun and enjoyable to all involved. Trust me BigHit would be suing Ashton and James Cordan if they felt Jin had been wronged in any way. So if BigHit and Jin are okay with it then the opinions of others is truly irrelevant. People taking things to seriously is the problem with this world. Learn to relax and just have a good laugh without dissecting every little thing.
It would be a stupid move to sue James Corden or Ashton for Bighit. They would lose a majority of their advertisement and there would be another culture clash with the western, and there would be criticism to BTS that they would sue by getting physically carried.
Jin might've been uncomfortable, yes, but hardly anything to escalate the situation over. Clearly it's the ARMY misjudging/escalating the situation again, not a surprise.
Tbh when i saw that i thought Jin found his husband😂😂
Sue them for what?! They weren’t assaulted.
BitHit doesn't care much for one member in d group n will not go as far as to sue anyone when they get so much money from Western world , wat did they do about the tattoo controversy .....nothing much , bighit is afraid to lose fans n supporters
@@OCR461 What? Um...oookkkaaay
The “It’s not in my vocabulary” is used quite frequently here in the west, it’s not just a Korean thing.
Same in France we use this sentence
David: *is shocked that Ailee being cancelled is news*
Also David: Taehyung spoke 2 english words IMPORTANT NEWS!
I didn't think that people would feel uncomfortable with the manhandling. From the way Jin reacted I don't think it was scripted but I'm sure he didn't mind, he was just flustered. I don't see it as the other guy trying to be all dominant or whatever... And on twitter no one seemed to think so either!
Yes the majority seems to think like this, but 'on twitter no one seemed to think so' is a strong statement. There are a few people even in this video's comments saying that they felt uncomfortable. Also cultural factors might kick in.
Jin was laughing the whole time he was carried.When you listen really closely you can hear it.
@@DKDKTV I think we all know that Jin is used to being manhandled by his members. It's nothing different but the online thing that is is that he was manhandled by someone he just met. So I see what everyone is saying but I don't think it has to do with culture difference bc of the reason I stated above in the first sentence
Remember on one of the BTS Run episode when they were recording a drama, Jungkook carried Jin over his shoulder. Remember BTS likes to have fun and this was a way for Ashton to add to the fun.
Look at closer at Jimin's face too. Yes he is smiling but not really smiling. I think both Jimin n Jin seem lil bit uncomfy with that bruh
"Never better" is used by Americans too,
It sure is. I say it all the time.
It's an idiomatic phrase, and idioms, by definition, don't follow "normal" grammar rules. Since it's idiomatically correct to say "never better," it's also grammatically correct.
Yeah I hear it all the time 😅
never heard it being said by ppl in LA before
im a non american and i even heard people using 'never better' before
Are we not going to talk about j-hope’s English? He has improved a lot and which is incredible judging by the fact that he was ranked last among the members!!! Now I think he’s second after RM
About the whole Jin and Ashton thing, I never knew it was an issue until I saw this video and the comment section. I thought they were just having fun and Jin was laughing. Also Ashton did ask him if he was okay and we all know Ashton loves joking around. Honestly, if Armys continue to be sensitive on silly things this then you will only end up hurting the members because no tv show, celebrity etc would want to associate with them cause nobody wants that sort of unwarranted negativity...so chill!!!
Thank you!!
sometimes people get too sensitive it's fraustrating
cheloworld you’re welcome 😊
Sonal Shirke Yeah everyone on Twitter was pretty chill about it! There were even memes😂
Strong Power Thank You tell me about it
Chris Brown has also been accused by another ex of being abusive, and once threw a chair during an interview. It's not just about Rhianna.
Shannon B. Exactly. So many women have been brave enough to speak up about his behavior towards women. So I don’t understand why David needs “evidence to be proven guilty”. All the evidence is out already.
It wasn’t during a interview wtf watch his documentary.
I always thought “never better” and “__ isn’t in my dictionary” are pretty common phrases in America?
Yup! They are common sayings, nothing too unique or referencing anything
they are lol
Very common, but I’ve always heard it used the way V did by saying it’s not in my ‘vocabulary’ as opposed to ‘dictionary’.
Honestly it’s probably because most Americans aren’t very good at speaking English themselves. Did you see that the average American knows 0.8 languages, whereas places like the UK is more like 2.3 languages.
Actually, "never better" can be used causally in most conversations in the US. It's just a bit of informal language.
Exactly. I actually thought it made tae sound native. "I've never been better" sounds more formal & not as colloquial
When Ashton carried Jin back to seat, he put Jin down right on the chair spot, then Ashton even bended down to check if Jin is alright because he quickly noticed Jin's red face and felt it might scared Jin a little bit, so he patted gently on Jin's shoulder for few times. TBH I didn't see any uncomfortable behaviors in that scene because everyone knows it's for the show and Ashton showed full respect and care to all BTS members. Even Ashton did the similar action to Jimin at first and after he put Jimin down he checked on Jimin's status as well. It might have potential dangerous in this game because it's a whole studio interaction and don't we need to be thankful and appreciated to James and Ashton who protects our boys safety first??? I don't understand where are those "uncomfortable" come from lol.
you right.
they both just making it an issue and give an idea to some people to push the wrong narrative.
i mean why focus on useless thing rather than talk about they got a nice promo or good perfomance, their vocals etc.
A.D H Right??? I’m glad our boys has opportunity to promote this time, and this show probably is their best show in US I’ve ever seen. James and Ashton are like the parents on the stage, and I just hate people when they know nothing behind the camera, those people only see what they see...👀
Like, I can see why ppl, espcially asians, may be uncomfortable because of the cultural diferences and the western stereotype that often emasculates asian men due to their size difference. Picking them up like that could definitely be seen as offensive. However, being an american I know that to break up awkwardness around strangers, we dont just cross boundaries, but SMASH through them to lighten up the atmosphere. I know as an american he didnt mean any harm, I found it funny too, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think it was gonna upset some ppl.
cim sim I understand your point on culture differences, but ppl are pinking out the idea of “ a western muscle guy carried Asian emasculated guy” and put culture differences as a title of it. Ashton did this to other western guests as well before, and that won’t be a problem at all because they’re all “western”. Using this to attack somebody is unfair to both Ashton and BTS, why and how ppl would take “first impressions are the strongest” on BTS that they look small and emasculated? Why and how ppl have the rights to put these labels on them tho?
@@yinggu2873 .....what are you talking about? lol. I see the word "western" triggered you for some reason. who did I label? I never "labeled" anyone as "western" so Im confused as to why you brought that up 3 times in reference to humans. You just misconstrued the words and labeled everyone lmao. I said there is a WESTERN STEREOTYPE as in a STEREOTYPE that exists in the WEST. There IS a stereotype that exists in the part of the world called the WESTERN part of the world (which essentially means europe and america) that asian men are not as masculine. This stereotype is often seen in many forms such as patronizing asian men for differences in their physical build or de-aging them. I'm positive (eastern) asian ppl in are aware and offended by this stereotype. Therefore an action such as picking these grown men up without knowing them is a bit disrespectful in their culture (but understandably, when in rome...) AND plays into the stereotype that often de-ages them and patronizes their different build. As an american who knows how americans are...I KNOW Ashton wasnt TRYING to offend them or anyone else. I'm just saying, I can see why ppl are uncomfortable by the action. Like think about it... why did most ppl find it cute? Why did ppl not react much with jimin, but did with jin? Its very simple. I dont agree with ppl coming for Ashton's neck, but I see how his action could unintentionally made some uncomfortable. Especially if they have experienced ppl acting in accordance to this stereotype, as I guess danny and david might have.
Those phrases were only trending because Tae said them and said them in English. They’re both commonly used phrases.
Danny: "do you think hermione gets grammar wrong!"
lolololol SO TRUE, she would never.
Hobi responded “I don’t care!” Also, V stated in his Vlive that he memorized phrases to stay away from complex answers.
"It's not in my vocabulary" is definitely a phrase in English. How can people forget the iconic Princess Diaries 2 moment:
"Fear is not in my vocabulary!"
"Perhaps... but it is in your eyes."
In this context, what he meant by cornball is “lame”. Like she asked him for a photo, probably sucked up a little, posted the picture, but as soon as she got backlash she flip flops and talks about him. That’s a CORNBALL move.
that makes sense
omg imagine being called lame by your idol
I wouldn't mind actually
don't beat women that is also a Cornball move
Is he not just flirting? You know, when the guy you teases you because be fancies you?
Beth O'C no. That is definitely NOT what he’s doing. lol. he called her “whack” or “lame” no flirting
Okay, so saying something isn't "in your vocabulary" is completely correct. Your vocabulary is the body of words you use in your language. It's a common saying in the US, though it might not be considered modern slang. Same with "never better". I was actually very impressed with V's use of the former, since that's a difficult word to say, and he likely consulted others (possibly Namjoon) before coming up with it.
But yeah, can we talk about Hobi's English, because WOW I've been so impressed wit him. He just keeps getting better and better and is clearly becoming a lot more comfortable with answering questions off the cuff.
Hoop Monster Fr I always say never better. And the fact that he said it without a strong Korean accent was shocking. I was proud. But yes Hobi English is improving sooooo much. And Suga knows a lot of English but just doesn’t know how to form sentences which is still okay. Tae is the opposite like he doesn’t know many words but forming sentences is pretty easy for him. Hobi is just adorable overall cuz he always asks rm about words and practices saying things a lot☺️😂
EXACTLY I'm so proud of Hobi's english lately, he's gotten so good! Every time he opens his mouth to say somethin I'm constantly surprised at how well formed his sentences and pronunciation are! 😭😭😭
just to be clear, nobody said 'in your vocabulary' is 'incorrect'. Thanks for explaining it thoroughly :) and yes J-Hope's English was flawless!
"In your vocabulary" is definitely used in English, although "I don't even know the meaning of the word ____!" is probably a more common version of the same thing. I assumed he meant that he is such a good dancer that he does not know the meaning of the word "mistake." But in his VLive, he said he memorized it as a random phrase he could use to get out of questions he did not know how to answer, lol.
ikr? I was like what? that's not wrong
“Never better” is slang, used sarcastically, and often said here rather than using an entire sentence. Phrase has been around long before Harry Potter. Tae’s phrase is also used in a joking manner here. I found it clever from an American point of view. Jin’s reaction when found made me laugh. As for Ashton carrying him, I am sure Ashton did not know a Korean would be so uncomfortable with what was considered a joke here. As someone else wrote, Ashton was pretending that James’s instruction to “bring them back “ literally meant to physically bring them back.
it may be used sarcastically as slang but it is a completely common idiom that simply means that you're feeling good, like "very well indeed".
The title is kinda misleading. The virus didn't ''hit'' SM, it's just that some of their artists' plans in China have to change.
No it's not. It either hits the SM artist/fans/SM itself financially. News title can't contain every context u know.
Yeah, I was thinking the same way.
@@rehan-ci1tk well then it hit all kpop companies.
Yup, talk about clickbait!!!
It hit their finances bro
Ashton carrying Jin was totally random. It was funny to me honestly. It just shows BTS are good sports. I'm super proud
"It originates from Harry Potter" I'm dying. "Never better" and "Not in my vocabulary" are common Western colloquialisms that have been around for decades. All sayings have an origin, but these are definitely well before the 21st century. The Ashton Kutcher playing around is common on our talk shows at least but it was kind of awkward since they didn't know each other, they hadn't even been introduced but Jin took it in stride. When learning a new language people have to remember that there is the grammatically correct way of speaking, then there's how locals actually use it in conversation (colloquially ((big words lol))). I'm surprised and proud at how Hobi and V both responded and used English how a native speaker would. It was cute because they were saying what we normally say. This is obnoxiously long, sorry.
Don't overapologise, this isn't even very long, your comment is totally fine
For real. I was so confused lol. Harry Potter didn’t start that phrase, and it’s not just in the UK. I’ve been hearing both of the phrases for decades in the US. And funnily enough, I think they should understand that colloquial speech doesn’t always follow grammar rules, because Korean is one of the biggest language offenders of ignoring grammar for the sake of shortening things
@@wellwell7429 lol, that cheered me up after finals today thank you!
I’m from UK, it didn’t occur to me that “never better” was such a curious phrase to others
Same!
I've lived around americans and have heard it all my life
Same and I’m from Australia
I thought it was completely normal too
It’s normal to native English speakers, no matter what dialect
The fact that David said it's 6,000 infected at the time they filmed this and now it's at 8,000+...dang man.
As an American, I can say "never better" is correct. It is used all the time.
"Never Better" has been a term I've heard and used for years before Harry Potter (I'm American). Same with "Not in my vocabulary." Tae used both terms correctly
foxlunacy I agree. Usually used sarcastically. For example, when you have a very bad cold, and a person asks you “how are you?” You respond in a voice that makes it obvious that you are the opposite of “never better”. It means I feel awful!
I think it is clever of Tae to use that phrase when he doesn’t now the English words to answer. I am an American and found the skit very amusing. But am sorry if they felt uncomfortable
Thnx for putting everything that I wanted to say!!! Kim TAEHYUNG ROCKS!!!! BTS IS THE BEST!!
I’m British, never better is rarely used sarcastically here, it’s always been part of our vocabulary and V used it perfectly.
Same goes for “not in my vocabulary”, it’s a British term, I think V has picked up British English more than American, which is why some Americans keep on making an issue sort of, even thought he did nothing wrong.
@@ibelieveinyourgalaxy I'm surprised by the reaction, because "Never better" and "Not in my vocabulary" used in the way he is using them has always been very common here in America, too. At least where I grew up. I asked some co-workers, who all grew up in different parts of the US, and vary culturally, and they said the same. Maybe it just isn't used as commonly now, but I kinda find that hard to believe. I dunno. 🤷🏽♀️
@@foxlunacy I'm American. Lived pretty much my whole life in Seattle. Those two phrases are not "commonly" used but its "common" enough that pretty much everyone know it. Hope I'm making sense. It's like people people don't often use it but they know it.
“Never Better” phrase has been around long before the Harry Potter books or movies, so I would not say that it originated through Hermione...people became more aware of the phrase primarily due to the popularity of the movie series with so many people watching it. I have used this phrase myself over 40 years ago and I am 62. In fact, I wrote this phrase in a letter to my mom when I was younger. I am an American.
Exactly. I was surprised when David said ppl are commenting that it's grammatical 🤨. I mean I've been using "Never better" for decades... long before Harry Potter, bcos obviously it's a common phrase in a conversation. Just like, if somebody greets you, "Hi, morning!" and you answer, "Morning!" - this is perfectly fine. Nobody expects you to say, "Hi, good morning to you too!"
I mean, who speak a language in the "proper well-structured form" with friends? Ppl might think you're weird, unless you are giving a speech in a formal event 😅.
I've been using 'never better' and 'oh that's not in my dictionary' for as long as I can remember, which pre-dates Harry Potter (am turning 30 later this year) because of family and friends. English sort of doesn't use proper sentences unless in a formal setting or in writing.
Thank U so much I WAS SO SHOCKED AT WHAT THEY SAID IT IS A SAYIN THAT HAS BEEN AROUND MY HOLE LIFE I'M 57 & AMERICAN THESE...KIM TAEHYUNG (V) IF BTS KNOWS MORE THEN BOTH OF THESE GUYS U CAN SPEAK ENGLISH SO VERY WELL SHOWS HE'S BEEN PAYING ATTENTION. LOVE BTS🌬💜💜💜💜💜💜🤟🙏💜💜🌬💋💋💋💋💋💋
guys everything V said was normal english... youre overthinking this
Exactly! Completely overthinking and overanalyzing something that was actually done correctly! You would think they would do their research first before saying anything in regards to this. They would have simply found out that both are phrases that are used commonly amongst English speaking people. 🤦♀️
ikr. i'm not a native english speaker, but already heard the words so many times before.
Noo, for iKONICs hashtags have significance tbh! YGE already tried to steal Hanbin's songs without saying it's his songs (for Eun Jiwon's album) but iKONICs recognised the songs (as Hanbin shared the demos with fans before) and it was wild trending #CreditHanbin worldwide. After that YG admitted 2 songs were his and credited him in KOMCA rightfully. And now they had to release an explanation and they also credited him in poster cuz they were scared iKONICs would riot again xD So it's a win! At least somehow we can get YGE to listen...
But with that explanation they also threw other #iKON members under the bus, not just B.I, as they said "we couldn't make new songs in 8 months" (yeah, not like they have 3 other songwriters/composers in the group?? but they preferred adding dates to their tour so members weren't even in Korea, and they DID write new songs but YGE released them unofficially in January, I still can't understand what's their strategy...) iKONICs were also furious as it seems like other members were told to be useless. And brought attention about scandal. Nice promo for a comeback, yeah?
"Never better" actually sounds more natural to me than "Never been better"
Danny: "I don't wanta talk"
David in his head: *he's such a coward and doesn't want to be cancelled again*
wow this usually works the other way but lol
LMAO i was thinkingt the same thing
"Never better" and "It's not in my vocabulary" are both commonly used terms. Usually, there are two cases when someone would say "Never better":
1. If they are actually doing very well
2. If they are being sarcastic about doing fine.
I often hear "Never better" being used in the second way more so than the first, but both often occur. Also, I think that it was trending because we don't often hear V, or any member other than RM, on English TV shows, speak in English so it was a really big deal. I personally thought all the boys did a great job and that J-Hope's English was phenomenal!
Also, the thing with Jin I didn't think much of it because it is common to play around by picking people up. I don't know the nature of Jin and Ashton's relationship but it was definitely not meant to be disrespectful or even to assert dominance.
Interestingly, I've heard "Never better" used in the first way more often. Of course, it always depends on the context and the tone of the speaker.
@@misspiggie7100 I can understand that I honestly just might have a lot of sarcastic friends haha
"It's not in my vocabulary " is also a term in English. It trended because it was so cute when Taehyung said it.
how come everyones talking about Jin, but no one mentioned that he picked up Jimin first? or how about the dumb fan that GRABBED Jin while he was defenseless??? hmmmm. priorities people.
i didnt see that :O
@@vanessachavez9893 20:02 the one in the very front row aisle seat grabs Jin's hand as Ashton goes by :|
dietotaku but he his were everywhere I don’t think they mean anything ill
@toomoon. All of us kniw that BTS has said NUMEROUS times not to touch. She knew it. She did it anyway.
The same fan did it twice too! To RM and Jin. Yikes. Its the sort of behaviour well thinking members of the fan base frown upon. You don't touch the guys without their permission.
Actually, in America, if someone were to answer a question with "Never better," it would be clearly understood and not sound like a foreigner speaking. In fact, I've heard it numerous times. I was born in America and English is my mother language.
In regular conversations, we don't always speak in complete sentences & grammar isn't that big of a deal--that judgment is done more by people who think they are above other people. It's a snooty thing to correct someone else's grammar, unless they are your child or student. Friends do it to help each other, but "Never better" is completely right--in real life.
I just wanted to let people who are learning American English know this. My Korean language partners ask me about these strange uses of grammar we use in our everyday conversations & I'm just starting to learn those used in Korean conversations. I'm still a beginner in Korean. (Why can't I learn faster?!)
Thank you for your videos, guys! You're helping me to better understand the country I want to visit. I like how you're open and honest about the negatives about the country and its people. Every country has the same things: prejudice, injustice, crime, and real human beings with many different personalities, weaknesses and strengths. I love the reality you speak. Keep it up & I will keep watching!!!
First off, V's responses were perfect for the questions. "Never Better" is used a lot in the U.S. And the "not in my vocabulary" is also used often. As for Ashton's manhandling Jin - it was the highlight of the night and many of us enjoyed it. It's not anything to be embarrassed about. People on the show were having a great time and it's how we have fun. I loved the entire show and would not do away with anything on there, at all. It's what made it go viral.
About the Chris Brown thing- I'd like to point out that he has been charged with several other recorded incidents of abuse/domestic violence against different women, all of which have happened since Rihanna (in which he beat her nearly to death). So it's a little bit of a big deal that Ailee took a picture with him, and as to her not knowing that that happened, I'm not sure if that's true because you didn't have to watch the news to find that out. I didn't watch the news as a kid and I still heard about it when it happened...
@@neonoires yup
thank you for giving us some insight!
BRIA Ailee was living in the US when it happened so sorry, I don’t buy that she had no idea.
I have heard of Chris Brown but I’ve have never heard about his abuse. Not everyone is going to know everything.
I have to say I had no idea, maybe it's because I live in Germany and don't really read a lot of news 🤷🏻♀️
I personally think V's usage of 'Never Better' was cute and all good. There was no intent to question his English skills. People were happy and excited about him using the phrase and there were quirky conversations on whether it is grammatically right or not. I simply brought those conversations to the table. Note that not all English users are American or British. Just for instance, 125 million speak English only in India and 100 million in the Philippines. So I can understand that grammar could be discussed about for people who aren't familiar with slang or expressions :)
That's why anyone if he / she interested in learning a different language must learn the common slang there too .
This statement is kinda irrelevant though because English comes from England and Americans often speak the original language before it was changed in England, so shouldn't you have just consulted the originators of the language, not people with second hand adaptation. No shade, love yall. lol
Yeah well, still "never better" it's legit english, everyone says it, i've seen it in movies and tv shows, it's literally just english ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
It trended bc it's cool that he used such an expression that's so typically used by someone who knows the language well... ppl that don't know much eng would just answer "good/okay" or whatever..."never better" just makes u feel like u know the language a bit more(which is not necessarily true,it's just a feeling) ... plus he says it so cutely... so it trended.
I know you're not trying to call V out for poor English skills or anything, but arguing that the expression isn't grammatically correct is just pretty pedantic and pointless tbh. Yeah, sure, it isn't technically the proper way to phrase it, academically speaking, but nobody cares. This was a casual situation, not an academic one, and he spoke English perfectly well, even if it was only a couple of expressions. There's nothing grammatically incorrect about what he said, given the context. Both phrases are legit English that anyone in the Western hemisphere might say. Also, similar expressions exist in all sorts of languages and cultures around the world.
Never better is exactly how it's used here in the state side. We don't speak in grammatical correctness when we speak. Most of the time we tend to use abbreviated forms of speech and/or slangs. So Tae Tae was SPOT on with his usage "never better".
Side note: Boys all looked so good!!! Loved their confidence too! 🥰
Them: “Never better”, “V”, “BTS”
Me: (SAW B.I, I CLICK!) OWSHT! Huhu! I MISS YOU GODBIN!
I'm happy that Taehyung's English was trending because he really is trying his best and I'm proud of him. 💜💜
Hobi really was fluently speaking English in the latest interviews, I'm so proud of him💜💜🥺
I thought Mr. Suga will come out as the next fluent English speaker after Namjoon. Hobi really impressed me
@@vanessaives40 Pure speculation but I wonder if his time in LA for CNS helped him become more comfortable with it. He even seemed a bit more confident during Bon Voyage in NZ.
Jin hiding his face with a picture of himself was hilarious.
Ashton carrying Jin and even Jimin was funny. The members seemed to enjoy it too They've been in an interview with Ashton before so they might know each other. I know some Karmys might not like it but they can get over it.
I think Ashton carrying Jin was hilarious. You can even hear Jin's iconic laugh. They were having a good time. I like how they're getting more comfortable on US tv.
I wish BTS would be on more American shows like this. They seem to have fun. A lot of the other interviews are mad boring and repetitive.
@@Katara0403 I agree.
I agree, I think he is trying to carry all the boys that he caught but when he got to JK he gave up, JK is the heaviest in the group.He just guide him back to his chair.
"When in Rome" it's perfectly fine what was done to him on the show. If anyone wants to complain about it, it should be Jin. Being offend for him is ridiculous.
"not in my vocabulary" is definitely a western saying as well
The thing is a lot of ikonics were angry at how YGE keeps blaming Hanbin for the delay as if the company has nothing to do with him leaving and YGE wrote a whole statement were they imply that they NEED his songs but puts all the blame on him at the same time, they could have shown a bit of respect specially since Hanbin can't speak up for himself. And we were also very worried about him being credited or not because this summer YGE released 2 of his songs on Eun Ji Won's album without any credit, thankfully Hanbin had shared one of the demos on vlive before and ikonics called YGE out, which resulted in him being credited on KOMCA (3 months later). Thankfully, it seems like YGE has learnt something and Hanbin is on the credits this time. I hope iKON can get a lot of support the 6th of February and Hanbin does too whenever he comes back, they're great guys and deserve all the love
Jin was laughing and smiling the whole time he was being carried by Ashton. Also if he wanted to be put down he knows how to say stop and Ashton would have put him down. It was all in fun of the game and Jin imo didn’t look uncomfortable
Joan Merlini people just wanna talk lol
Ashton carrying Jin was the Funniest and the most random shit ever. Never laughed so hard 🤣🤣🤣
Me: I'm scared that I have the virus!
also me: *norwegian, live very isolated, just lay in bed and is never outside*
Actually, Tae's usage of those phrases were correct. Jin being carried was fine. The boys seemed so comfortable, and the boys said they had a good time at James Corden.
If you watch V's most recent Vlog, he did practice the "Not in my vocabulary".
Is it vlive or bangtan bomb?
LonelyPlanetAmongstTheStars I believe it s his latest vlive, he talked about it when j-hope was there I think
@@Katara0403 Vlive
"Not in my vocabulary" is pretty universal thought ! French is my first language and we use it too !
Park Chimmy 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷💜
it was the funniest part of the show with Ashton - no need to create what isn't there lol - nobodu normal though that Jin was humiliated, it actually showed that they are fun people down to earth - which is really important these days. would it be better if they were stoic? no
It’s Ashton Kutcher guys... he’s literally one of the nicest guys in Hollywood, and not just for show either.
Also, V’s phrases are very commonly used here in the States. I think fans were just surprised by his English.
I have a friend who's family is in lockdown in Wuhan and her mother told her mostly people were just chill and only left their houses when necessary. Her mother said the number of actual infected people were 90k but idk how true that is, taking into consideration that the symptoms are the same as normal, common illnesses
The only manhandling was when that girl touched Jin's hand without his permission
I missed that.
Damn dont do her like that
You sound stupid,like jin is a god 🙄🙄🙄
Purity Benson there was an audience member who tried to grab jins hand which is a violation of privacy especially knowing how crazy the fans are. it’s not about him being a “god” it’s called personal space
I agree, she should’ve kept her hands to herself. Just because they’re passing by does not give you the right to touch a person. Any person, period.
Honestly when you started talking about manhandling I automatically just thought of the girl who grabbed Jin's hand. What Ashton did seemed fine and when I have played hide and seek with people my age and a little older this is how we have played before. Especially if it has a time limit and whoever finds the most wins type of game. I just think it's being blown out of proportion especially since they said they had fun and enjoyed it on the Vlive.
i didn't realize ashton picking up jin during the hide n seek game was controversial/problematic... it's normal to be a bit physical in those sorts of games in north america, especially on entertainment shows
Koreans are just sensitive the second people touch their idols
Lily Rose I know right, the fact this is even an issue is embarrassing, especially to the fandom. It just makes ARMYs seem so sensitive about everything.
@@MrChannelforwatching I HONESTLY dont think army have an issue with this. The first time I'm hearing about anyone having a problem is in this video.
alperry02 I know that majority of the fandom has no problem with it, but it’s annoying how there’s always a small minority that makes the rest of the ARMYs look bad.
@@MrChannelforwatching yeeeaahh. Lol. I'm saying ,me personally, I haven't seen any army having a problem. Not on Twitter, yt , anywhere . I've only seen these hosts mention at as issue🤷🏽♀️
'Never better' is fine and really common here in the UK haha
"Never Better" is grammatically correct. Its just a shorter version of "I've never been better" or "Never been better". Its like a casual conversational phrase.
still cant get enough of the fact that james and ashton passed jk many times but didnt even notice him until namjoon snitched it to ashton 🤣
The "not in my vocab" is I think a universal term. I think it only trended coz tae said it naturaly??? Like not scripted at all. And he was so laid back i kinda thought he was studying english like jk. lol at this point BTS breathes and they'd trend so I'm not surprised
I was really impressed by Taehyung's English and how surprisingly natural it was. Everything he said was perfect and I can tell that he's been studying a lot
I thought V said, "Not in my vocabulary...I'm perfect." As in, mistakes aren't in his vocabulary because he doesn't make them.
same , I thought same 😂
I thought he did too but if you watched their Vlive later, V said when he doesn't understand something that is his go to line. I think he honestly didn't understand, BUT with how the question was asked it totally came across as he's a perfectionist hahah it was cute.
Haha that was definitely perfect timing if that's the case!
He didn't say I'm perfect, he said I'm prepared.
AteezIsMyBias which Vlive was it
Ok so the phrases “Never better” and “not in my vocabulary” are very colloquial.
It doesn’t sound unnatural at all. On the contrary, he sounds fluent af
Not defending Ailee but remember she was training and just starting her career at around the time that incident was an issue, in Korea. So, she genuinely may not have known.
Lele Lu she was still living in the US when it happened, also she claims to have been a fan of him so it’s peculiar that she wouldn’t know that it happened as well as all of the other terrible things he’s done since then. It’s not just the one incident
When you said "Jin Manhandled" I thought it was going to be about the girl who grabbed his hand, not Ashton carrying him in a playful game.
There was nothing uncomfortable about the “man-handling”😂 like it was cute and really funny and they clearly were enjoying themselves
I'm from australia V's comments were spot on , and the way Ashton carried Jin is quite ok. I'm 62 and watch your show all the time thank you for brightening my day.
When they put ‘sm hit by coronavirus’ I thought that they meant someone in sm for it. I got sooooo scared.
Honestly I felt a little bit uncomfortable in the beginning. I thought they might been embarrassed but then I saw they were having fun and later on a v-live, Taehyung said they felt very comfortable on the Show.
that's what matters. end of case :)))
V said they felt comfortable, but that wasn't Jimin or Jin speaking. If they had felt uncomfortable they probably wouldn't tell the public in fear that Army would go after Kutcher. I'm sure they understood Kutcher meant no harm, but that doesn't mean they enjoyed being manhandled. I felt uncomfortable watching it, and embarrassed for them. I thought Jin looked embarrassed covering his face and his ears were red. It was funny enough when Kutcher startled Jin, he didn't have to do more.
@@issakimanid343 i mean that is embarrasing but also really funny for anyone, Jimin and Jin are not exception because they are asian. Also i don't know for you but i could clearly hear Jin laughing while being on Ashton's shoudler.
@@witchgroup I heard him laughing. Laughing isn't always associated with joy. I sometimes laugh when I'm nervous and uncomfortable, to cover up the fact that I'm nervous and uncomfortable. I don't think Kutcher was purposefully trying to make anyone feel bad. I don't think he is a bad person. I think he wasn't thinking about anything besides getting a laugh. He did it for a laugh, he did it for tv. If it was a good friend of his and that's how they behave with eachother it would be different. If it was a female group say Mamamoo, and he threw Hwasa over her shoulder and carried her like that people would not be laughing and thanking him for doing that to her, they would be more concerned about how she felt. I am a female, and I think both men and women should be treated with dignity and respect. I thought it was a careless act that made me feel uncomfortable for him.
??? "Never better" didn't originate from harry potter haha. Has always been very well used phrase in English speaking countries! Also, I think "Not in my vocabulary" is also a fairly well used phrase in English speaking countries, I've heard it lots of times in Canada!
Regardless, I love all your videos 💜
Sydney Carter . We used that “ not in my vocabulary” quite often too in the Philippines.
These two expressions are widely used by non native speakers too in SEA countries. It's very common. It caught attention because Taehyung said them in a confident & cute way.
My thoughts:
"Never been better or Never better" are both correct. It means you are always at your best. The phrase "It's not in my vocabulary" is also correct. It's somewhat an idiom that means-- it's not in my system to mess up something or making sure you are perfect always. So V is doing great for his answers. Those phrases are widely used here in my country. I guess those phrases trended because we were not expecting V to use those phrases and we find it so cute!
As for me, as a fun loving person, there is nothing wrong with Ashton carrying Jin and I find it hilarious and cute. As for Jin who loves fun, I guess he didn't mind it unless Jin showed discomfort about it. But still all of us here are entitled to our own opinion and we have different perspective. ---------- but anyhow let's just spread love and kindness!
Love you always baby Taehyungie. #V
“never better” is a common phrase in america..
“Never better” is actually an acceptable way of saying “I’ve never been better” its the same thing, just a shorter way. Like instead of saying “I have to go” some people say “gotta go” or things like that so... yea☺️
I never thought that Jin's part could be seen with such negativity... i'm sure ashton kutcher did it in a playful way, didn't mean to be disrespectful; it was just a game so it was supposed to be a "light" moment and that's what it seemed to me. Of course, Jin looked a bit embarrassed and if someone carried me that way I would have felt the same way, but I wouldn't have blamed the person who did it in a context like that. They were playing a game, he was in a rush, just picked him up and run. That's it. I hope Jin laughed about it rewatching it or thinking about it, there's no reason to be ashamed, it was just a game, he's still our worldwide handsome♡
Ppl are upset because there is a westerners have a history of emasculating asian men bc of their size in comparison to the avg westerner. I can see why they are upset, but I do think they are dragging it bc they are also not taking american culture and our lack of boundaries (in certain scenarios) into consideration.
cim sim cut the bullshit your whole half assed explanation has nothing to do with it. Ashton was just trying to be funny since he's a very goofy guy and he wasn't trying to "emasculate" asian men at all. When bts were on running men years ago , they were LITERALLY being swung and thrown around by the cast. Why wasn't there any backlash then?? Most of the fans who were upset weren't korean nor Asian but actually western, just those overprotective triggered 14 year old fangirls.
I find it weird that everyone keeps saying that Jin was uncomfortable because I was looking at Jimin after he was caught and he looked really uncomfortable and irritated. Jin just seemed shocked to me. I wasn’t uncomfortable with him picking up Jin but with Jimin I was ....😂😂😂😂
Also, David, “Never Better” and “Its not in my vocabulary “ are both English phrases that we use often. It was trending because English speakers were excited to hear V speak and be confident enough to use those phrases. And it was adorable to watch him look comfortable. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I dont think "it's not in my vocabulary" is purely a Korean thing.
actually we also used that term here in the philippines but it was long time ago... now a days i hardly hear that phrase
We use it in Germany to
@@mayvillanueva2570 true thats like oooold havent heard it for quite some time now
@@mayvillanueva2570 truth and i also often say "never better" when someone asks how i am doing
Another example of them thinking the world revolves around Korea.
Hide&seek was hilarious, I couldn't stop laughing. I was surprised that jimin was that quiet when Ashton brought Jin, bc he's always the one rolling on the floor, so I thought maybe they're not that comfortable, and I've seen them fooling around like that on vlive and run bts
They were fine with it.
I didn't realize that everything that happened with BTS on James Cordon was a big deal?? Tae's English was correct and it trended because US fans were happy and surprised that he spoke English. "Never Better" and "That's not in my vocabulary" are correct phrases and they're used often. Also, in America, being picked up like what Ashton did to Jin isn't necessarily a bad thing? I mean it's not something that someone would do to someone they don't know but because the show had a comfortable setting I imagine it was just spur of the moment and there wasn't any ill intent behind it. Most US fans thought it was hilarious which I think was what Ashton was going for because he's a funny guy.
"Never better" and "It's not in my vocabulary" are definitely used in the West.
The Jin thing: I don't think it's a big deal. Jungkook has carried Jin over his shoulder too. But I get It's different when someone you don't know does it. However Ashton is a sweet dude and very goofy, I'm sure he didn't mean any harm in it. The man is an active contributor to stopping human trafficking. Furthermore anything involved with BTS on the show would have been previously agreed upon by Bangtan and thier management. It might have been a bit of culture shock to some, but rationally if anything was amiss, Bangtan's management wouldn't have allowed it to be on air.
"Never Better" and "It's not in my vocabulary" are definitely english phrases people use all the time.
Exactly
The term "not in my vocabulary" is also used in the UK.
I think one of the cutest clips of V was when James found him and was walking him back out. He asked V if he saw the other members and V was so freaking adorable!