Imma Lakers fan and this is just funny tho, I'm here for it to watch. He said he don't give a fuck about the Lakers to hate on them and he kept proving them right lmaoo
I agree and understand where you’re coming from P, but if a coach loses the locker room, you have to let them go regardless of their performance or blame. It's hard to recover a locker room if players, especially the star players don't respect the coach. However, the fact that there is a recurring pattern of coaches losing the locker room for this team suggests that there’s deeper issues within the organization. From ownership, to GM, to the players, there’s a certain attitude about coaching that I think needs to change
Well said. I also think it’s hard cause lebrons time is whittling away. Ironically they should’ve kept ham and the 2020 team and the growth would’ve been amazing
@@soodhooku if we don’t count AD and Bron, only 5 guys from the 2020 roster are still in the league. out of those 5 2 are basically unplayable, 1 is kuzma and then caruso and kcp are the other 2.
Damn P I ain’t never see you this heated to start a video in a minute lmao😭. I understand what you was saying twitter looking forward to see you explain further this video
Feels like everyone in this comments section saying "THEY COULDN"T BUILD CULTURE WITH DARVIN THO!!!!" are missing the entire point of the argument here. He said multiple times it wasn't about Darvin Ham, it's about the Lakers' choices as an organization and who they choose to hire and fire.
P you’re right, culture and continuity is very important for coaches to have success, but can you please tell me what kind of culture Darvin Ham was building? Can you tell me the identity of the team? What was his principles on offense? What about defense? You often criticize the Lakers for playing a lot of 1 on 1 ball, standing around and just ball watching right? So do you think the solution was to keep Darvin Ham and look to make changes somewhere else?
Amen P. Look at the Wolves, after last year they could have made dramatic moves but they didn't. Now instead of going with a new coach Finch is getting Flip comparisons as our best coach ever.
Ham has been called out by players for 2 years. Vogel didn’t get called out like that. Vogel got fired for reasons not all about basketball. Vogel rubbed some people the wrong way at the end. So the Lakers firing coaches every 2-3 years is a weak correlation, not a pattern. A pattern means there is a core component to the phenomena. Some of the Lakers coaches had good reasons to be fired. Now the part that is wrong about all of this is that they are blamed for most of the problems, being scapegoats. Are we better off without Ham? Yes, but was it all his fault? No. If Ham was a better coach, we would have lost the series 2-4. We lost to the Nuggets because we refuse to get a proper center to guard him so that we don’t have to double team him so much. That is partially on Rob Pelinka, but LBJ signs off on the moves, so LBJ thought the Lakers didn’t need a true center either. AD has been begging for one. LBJ/Ham/Pelinka all have a big part in the Lakers being undersized against the Nuggets. Ham likes to play small ball a lot, so this is what you get. So is switching coaches going to get them past Denver? No. If I was Ham, how many defensive schemes could I run when my best defensive player can’t guard Jokic 1v1, so I would have to use double team schemes over half the game, and can’t use most of my single coverage schemes, cause Jokic going to toast that coverage. You need the right personnel to be able to run certain schemes against certain teams in certain matchups. Ham’s fault in the Denver series wasn’t the disadvantage they had to play with. They Lakers weren’t well coached on how they needed to rotate after doubling, but to be fair, they probably didn’t have to run it a lot, because they didn’t have to run it against most teams, especially not double teaming down low, because AD can handle most teams’ bigs by himself, but against Jokic he cannot, and then they had Rui guard Jokic a lot so that AD didn’t get burnt out on defense guarding Jokic. So I don’t think the Lakers were well oiled on their rotations after doubling down low. Where Ham was at fault was on the offense end. Lakers pick n roll sets were beautiful, but when Denver started switching the screens, Lakers didn’t have a counter offensive scheme to punish switching. It was more just trying to let LBJ and AD play hero ball, but AD was getting doubled in the post in 2nd halves, and the Lakers had no schemes to punish the double teams, so Denver just forced LBJ to play hero ball, which wore him out. LBJ can’t play hero ball for a whole game like he used to. So when LBJ got tired, we then gave the ball to other role players and expected them to play hero ball. So it’s been known for decades that in the playoffs, pick n roll is easy to shut down, and that you can’t just run PnR in the playoffs; you must have another counter scheme in case your PnR gets countered, which it will. So Ham was lacking on the offensive side, which lost us a game or two in the series, but I still don’t think we win the series if we were better on offense, because our defense was still getting exposed badly. Then you have LBJ getting payed max money to only play at 70% effort during the regular season, and understandably so, but we can’t get high seedings like that, so we end up getting rough first round matchups.
I agree with the move if we have a motivated candidate to take the job. Our personnel decision suffered a lot from the influence of Klutch Sports, LeGM, etc. also the lasting effects of Magic’s President of Basketball Ops tenure. When Pelinka finally took complete personnel control we found a spark and possibly fool’s gold with a WCF run. The injuries to surrounding role players this season doesn’t help the W/L but I firmly believe Pelinka locking in a proven coach, a few tweaks to personnel, and developing actual trust and culture in this team can go incredibly far. I disagree w losing Phil, our development of low draft picks is crucial to helping accumulate assets but he still could be brought back by the new coach. Roster wise we need to choose Reaves or Russell, Rui needs to be flipped for a wing, bron & AD need to focus on being a 4&5 duo who locks in on defense and allow D’Lo to play a more natural role on O as a scorer while using Davis and Bron in actions that aren’t predictable. A two way guard and wing for Reaves & Rui would be a huge upgrade in our floor and ceiling.
Darvin was bad but it wasn’t just him Pelinka has been escaping heat forever man . Frank should’ve never been fired anyway either. That roster for frank after the championship year was terrible.
Pee we get your point in saying that the great/winning teams build continuity with a coach. But our point is that these coaches weren’t good, so what would be the reason for the Lakers to just sit on these coaches when they all have glaring problems. Like you said once you find a coach with that vibe/voice that you can build with who’s also good with the Xs & O’s yea you should keep them but Walton, Vogel, and Ham weren’t those guys so why not fire them? Yes there are more problems than the coach when the team fails especially the Russ trade but we can also acknowledge that these dudes weren’t good. Changes don’t need to just happen with the coaching but the players as well and I think that’s gonna happen this offseason.
Vogel was decent, great schematically even, but with Vogel he is starting to have a reputation as a guy who loses the locker room. Even if he is a good coach there isn’t a guarantee things would necessarily be better if we kept him given the players didn’t respect him.
I couldn’t agree more, when lebron signed himself to the team it saved a lot of mfs jobs and gave the team an easy out when they deserved to be a below average team and fix their management problems. I don’t see it changing anytime soon but I hope it will.
p as a laker fan i’ll be the first to admit we have a lot of goofies in our fanbase but that comes with the territory. we’re the biggest fanbase in the NBA. i promise you there are more ppl in the fanbase that agree with your stance than not. a lot of us have been begging for rob to be held accountable & for jeanie to be transparent. they run the organization like it’s a poverty franchise. jeanie, rob, linda, kurt, etc. are the biggest issues here & the fans have had enough. with that being said tho, im glad ham is gone but i’ve been saying he shoulda never been hired in the first place.
Lakers fans are really something else. The same ones who want Jj reddick to be the coach next because he and LeBron gotta podcast together are the same ones who are going to be calling for his head as soon as he makes one questionable rotation or use of a timeout
You can only build continuity with your coach if your coach can show you he’s worth doing it for. Lakers environment in general is toxic but I can’t see Ham ever being a good coach in this league
Ushering in a new guy was their plan but (and it feels dumb to frame it this way) they messed up and won that 2020 ring. They fully intended to have vogel a couple years and then raise up jkidd off their bench but once they won the ring they had to extend vogel out so kidd chose to leave.
seems to me like you’re trying to have the right conversation but you’re doing it at the wrong time. at least that’s the way i see it as a Lakers fan. and i agree with what you’re saying about building a team and a culture but there’s been 0 talk about darvin ham and his shortcomings. if any other team with championship aspirations had a coach as bad as him there’d be so much more conversation surrounding them, but in the lakers case the discourse is about LeBron, AD, DLo or whoever else
Facts to even prove what you're saying is right about the coaches just look at the Pittsburgh Steelers 3 coaches n there entire history which is a record and they even had down years with all 3 coaches but they didn't panic and it paid off
P. This isn’t laker fans and people being the usual thing. Ham was not good. AD in public disagreement, all the players having bad body language around him, his rotations and not giving good lineups time they deserve, not calling timeouts when teams go on 8-0 runs. It’s not the same the P. Ham was truly not good for this roster.
The organization is the problem with the bad trades to make a team for ad and bron and vogel was a scapegoat also, but you can not tell me that Ham is a coach ready for this job and you know it
I think there are some basketball reason why Darvin Ham got fired. Terrible rotations and there had seem to be a lack of attention to detail and lack of accountability. However 2 things can be true so my question how in the world does Rob Pelinka have a job still? How do you go from that 2020 championship team to one of the strangest roster fits in the league. Playing AD at the 5 at the time, still no trustable shooting, and the weird dynamic between AR and Dlo in the back-court. What exactly is the Lakers identity? I mean the offense was better this year but the defense fell off. Last year it was the defense that was good until they ran into Denver. I just don’t know what the thought process was. They have good players but they don’t fit
Lakers don’t have the time needed to build a team like that with their current roster like the other teams around the league. They should’ve kept their roster or as much of it as possible after their 2020 ring. They built up a championship team and then got rid of everything that made them who they were expect for the two stars. They got rid of everything looking for a super team and ever since then they’ve been on a downfall of looking for someone to blame, and players or coaches that didn’t fit. At this point they just gotta keep trying this method until lebron retires because they don’t really have another choice
For the lakers they are doing it all wrong because all those championships are haunting them now because when you stuck in your ways it’s hard to adapt and that’s what lakers need to do . They need a fresh young minds to co work with who they got now that’s just my opinion
yeah? I mean I think Lakers fans that follow the team deeply knows its not only the coach, but he is or was part of the problem. What I do notice is there is a sign of resignation from the fanbase towards the FO that they will never leave. We know they fucked up with the Russ trade, we know firing Vogel was the wrong move. Just because there's a bunch of loud insane fans that doesn't mean that they represent the majority.
I honestly do not think ham was a bad coach. He isn’t a championship coach tho. He can do well on a young team. But I mean it’s also clear he lost the locker room
Darvin was an awful coach. The lakers front office has made a number of mistakes, most notably firing Vogel, trading for Westbrook, and letting Caruso go, but firing Darvin Ham was not one of those mistakes.
The only reason this is a thing is because LeBron is attached to this team. The Lakers organization has been God awful even before he got there. The importance of consistency starts with the OWNER and the front office. But what I dont get is.....did you expect the team to win with someone who they don't respect? Change was needed & its started with the coach. Get a grip, sit back and lets see what ownership does.
I hate to be that Laker fan that goes “C’mon P,”…but C’MOOOOON P! You think any of us want this organization?! I’d get rid of Lebron AND AD if I could have Spoelstra as a coach and Pat Riley as GM but we’re just not in the position to build a culture and really do shit until Jeanie Buss sells the team and Lebron leaves! You’re acting like Laker fans aren’t the FIRST ONES to tell you our culture and org sucks! Until then it’s gonna be misspelled statues, chasing fools gold in a third star, getting rid of all our young talent, firing coach after coach, and wasting Lebron’s last years to compete, all with no real leadership and accountability. If your point is it’s not just Darvin Ham, WE KNOW IT’S NOT JUST THE COACH BRO!
lmao who's here from the war between P and the lakers fans
Imma Lakers fan and this is just funny tho, I'm here for it to watch. He said he don't give a fuck about the Lakers to hate on them and he kept proving them right lmaoo
He ain't taking no prisoners lmao and now that his Knicks winning we might be cooked 😭😭
I agree and understand where you’re coming from P, but if a coach loses the locker room, you have to let them go regardless of their performance or blame. It's hard to recover a locker room if players, especially the star players don't respect the coach.
However, the fact that there is a recurring pattern of coaches losing the locker room for this team suggests that there’s deeper issues within the organization. From ownership, to GM, to the players, there’s a certain attitude about coaching that I think needs to change
Well said. I also think it’s hard cause lebrons time is whittling away. Ironically they should’ve kept ham and the 2020 team and the growth would’ve been amazing
@@soodhooku if we don’t count AD and Bron, only 5 guys from the 2020 roster are still in the league. out of those 5 2 are basically unplayable, 1 is kuzma and then caruso and kcp are the other 2.
Damn P I ain’t never see you this heated to start a video in a minute lmao😭. I understand what you was saying twitter looking forward to see you explain further this video
P got the vid up QUICK
no intro, P is HEATED 🔥
Rob Pelinka and Jeanie Buss deserve the majority of the blame for these bad trades and Jeanie gave Kurt Rambis power too
Feels like everyone in this comments section saying "THEY COULDN"T BUILD CULTURE WITH DARVIN THO!!!!" are missing the entire point of the argument here. He said multiple times it wasn't about Darvin Ham, it's about the Lakers' choices as an organization and who they choose to hire and fire.
P you’re right, culture and continuity is very important for coaches to have success, but can you please tell me what kind of culture Darvin Ham was building? Can you tell me the identity of the team? What was his principles on offense? What about defense? You often criticize the Lakers for playing a lot of 1 on 1 ball, standing around and just ball watching right?
So do you think the solution was to keep Darvin Ham and look to make changes somewhere else?
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Amen P. Look at the Wolves, after last year they could have made dramatic moves but they didn't. Now instead of going with a new coach Finch is getting Flip comparisons as our best coach ever.
As a laker fan, I couldn’t agree more!!! It’s always the HC’s fault there’s 0 accountability from the front office or the players
To be fair, I seen a lot of laker fans complaining about Ham's rotation the whole season lol. And rightfully so.
Ham has been called out by players for 2 years. Vogel didn’t get called out like that. Vogel got fired for reasons not all about basketball. Vogel rubbed some people the wrong way at the end. So the Lakers firing coaches every 2-3 years is a weak correlation, not a pattern. A pattern means there is a core component to the phenomena. Some of the Lakers coaches had good reasons to be fired. Now the part that is wrong about all of this is that they are blamed for most of the problems, being scapegoats. Are we better off without Ham? Yes, but was it all his fault? No. If Ham was a better coach, we would have lost the series 2-4. We lost to the Nuggets because we refuse to get a proper center to guard him so that we don’t have to double team him so much. That is partially on Rob Pelinka, but LBJ signs off on the moves, so LBJ thought the Lakers didn’t need a true center either. AD has been begging for one. LBJ/Ham/Pelinka all have a big part in the Lakers being undersized against the Nuggets. Ham likes to play small ball a lot, so this is what you get. So is switching coaches going to get them past Denver? No. If I was Ham, how many defensive schemes could I run when my best defensive player can’t guard Jokic 1v1, so I would have to use double team schemes over half the game, and can’t use most of my single coverage schemes, cause Jokic going to toast that coverage. You need the right personnel to be able to run certain schemes against certain teams in certain matchups. Ham’s fault in the Denver series wasn’t the disadvantage they had to play with. They Lakers weren’t well coached on how they needed to rotate after doubling, but to be fair, they probably didn’t have to run it a lot, because they didn’t have to run it against most teams, especially not double teaming down low, because AD can handle most teams’ bigs by himself, but against Jokic he cannot, and then they had Rui guard Jokic a lot so that AD didn’t get burnt out on defense guarding Jokic. So I don’t think the Lakers were well oiled on their rotations after doubling down low. Where Ham was at fault was on the offense end. Lakers pick n roll sets were beautiful, but when Denver started switching the screens, Lakers didn’t have a counter offensive scheme to punish switching. It was more just trying to let LBJ and AD play hero ball, but AD was getting doubled in the post in 2nd halves, and the Lakers had no schemes to punish the double teams, so Denver just forced LBJ to play hero ball, which wore him out. LBJ can’t play hero ball for a whole game like he used to. So when LBJ got tired, we then gave the ball to other role players and expected them to play hero ball. So it’s been known for decades that in the playoffs, pick n roll is easy to shut down, and that you can’t just run PnR in the playoffs; you must have another counter scheme in case your PnR gets countered, which it will. So Ham was lacking on the offensive side, which lost us a game or two in the series, but I still don’t think we win the series if we were better on offense, because our defense was still getting exposed badly.
Then you have LBJ getting payed max money to only play at 70% effort during the regular season, and understandably so, but we can’t get high seedings like that, so we end up getting rough first round matchups.
I learn so much from these videos dawg
Darvin Ham aint the only reason, but he a start 😂😂
I been waiting for this since I seen P was goin off on twitter 😭
Lmao P came out on fire in this one. Good Job Keep Going 🍊
I agree with the move if we have a motivated candidate to take the job. Our personnel decision suffered a lot from the influence of Klutch Sports, LeGM, etc. also the lasting effects of Magic’s President of Basketball Ops tenure. When Pelinka finally took complete personnel control we found a spark and possibly fool’s gold with a WCF run. The injuries to surrounding role players this season doesn’t help the W/L but I firmly believe Pelinka locking in a proven coach, a few tweaks to personnel, and developing actual trust and culture in this team can go incredibly far. I disagree w losing Phil, our development of low draft picks is crucial to helping accumulate assets but he still could be brought back by the new coach. Roster wise we need to choose Reaves or Russell, Rui needs to be flipped for a wing, bron & AD need to focus on being a 4&5 duo who locks in on defense and allow D’Lo to play a more natural role on O as a scorer while using Davis and Bron in actions that aren’t predictable. A two way guard and wing for Reaves & Rui would be a huge upgrade in our floor and ceiling.
Darvin was bad but it wasn’t just him Pelinka has been escaping heat forever man . Frank should’ve never been fired anyway either. That roster for frank after the championship year was terrible.
Pee we get your point in saying that the great/winning teams build continuity with a coach. But our point is that these coaches weren’t good, so what would be the reason for the Lakers to just sit on these coaches when they all have glaring problems. Like you said once you find a coach with that vibe/voice that you can build with who’s also good with the Xs & O’s yea you should keep them but Walton, Vogel, and Ham weren’t those guys so why not fire them? Yes there are more problems than the coach when the team fails especially the Russ trade but we can also acknowledge that these dudes weren’t good. Changes don’t need to just happen with the coaching but the players as well and I think that’s gonna happen this offseason.
Vogel was fine, why would you throw him in with the other two?
Vogel was decent, great schematically even, but with Vogel he is starting to have a reputation as a guy who loses the locker room. Even if he is a good coach there isn’t a guarantee things would necessarily be better if we kept him given the players didn’t respect him.
@@Slitherman96he was decent but not someone I ever looked at as a sure fire coach to build with for the future
I couldn’t agree more, when lebron signed himself to the team it saved a lot of mfs jobs and gave the team an easy out when they deserved to be a below average team and fix their management problems. I don’t see it changing anytime soon but I hope it will.
p as a laker fan i’ll be the first to admit we have a lot of goofies in our fanbase but that comes with the territory. we’re the biggest fanbase in the NBA. i promise you there are more ppl in the fanbase that agree with your stance than not. a lot of us have been begging for rob to be held accountable & for jeanie to be transparent. they run the organization like it’s a poverty franchise. jeanie, rob, linda, kurt, etc. are the biggest issues here & the fans have had enough. with that being said tho, im glad ham is gone but i’ve been saying he shoulda never been hired in the first place.
gotta love the debates on twitter lmao
Lakers fans are really something else. The same ones who want Jj reddick to be the coach next because he and LeBron gotta podcast together are the same ones who are going to be calling for his head as soon as he makes one questionable rotation or use of a timeout
You can only build continuity with your coach if your coach can show you he’s worth doing it for. Lakers environment in general is toxic but I can’t see Ham ever being a good coach in this league
Earliest I've ever been love the vids Pierre
Ushering in a new guy was their plan but (and it feels dumb to frame it this way) they messed up and won that 2020 ring. They fully intended to have vogel a couple years and then raise up jkidd off their bench but once they won the ring they had to extend vogel out so kidd chose to leave.
seems to me like you’re trying to have the right conversation but you’re doing it at the wrong time. at least that’s the way i see it as a Lakers fan. and i agree with what you’re saying about building a team and a culture but there’s been 0 talk about darvin ham and his shortcomings. if any other team with championship aspirations had a coach as bad as him there’d be so much more conversation surrounding them, but in the lakers case the discourse is about LeBron, AD, DLo or whoever else
P it’s been 2 weeks since the hawks 😂
P could post a tweet have everyone agree with him & he’d change his opinion just to have someone to disagree with 🤣
Ps no hate love the pod P! 🫡🤣
Oh Pee on timing, we here man
The FO overreacted to the end of the 2021 season. We would still have Vogel now if they didn’t panic.
Facts to even prove what you're saying is right about the coaches just look at the Pittsburgh Steelers 3 coaches n there entire history which is a record and they even had down years with all 3 coaches but they didn't panic and it paid off
Darvin was ass, that’s the whole point we fired him for being ASS. Vogel is the only firing that was unwarranted due to the team being awful.
We aren’t annoying just used to winning. Fr Jeanie gotta get her mind right bc she got shitty people running out team. Sell if you gotta
Bro came out the intro hot
P. This isn’t laker fans and people being the usual thing. Ham was not good. AD in public disagreement, all the players having bad body language around him, his rotations and not giving good lineups time they deserve, not calling timeouts when teams go on 8-0 runs. It’s not the same the P. Ham was truly not good for this roster.
Why don’t y’all lakers fanboys keep the same energy for Rob Pelinka 😂
The organization is the problem with the bad trades to make a team for ad and bron and vogel was a scapegoat also, but you can not tell me that Ham is a coach ready for this job and you know it
Luke walton??? Common bro, its the organization and the bad decisions
Bro he said 500 times he’s not defending ham lmao. He never said ham was ready or anything like that at all.
Expecting different results while doing the same thing is identified as insanity
nick nurse in toronto another one who was a part of the fabric before taking over from casey and then winning
Isn’t the definition of insanity - doing the same thing expecting different results?
I think there are some basketball reason why Darvin Ham got fired. Terrible rotations and there had seem to be a lack of attention to detail and lack of accountability. However 2 things can be true so my question how in the world does Rob Pelinka have a job still? How do you go from that 2020 championship team to one of the strangest roster fits in the league. Playing AD at the 5 at the time, still no trustable shooting, and the weird dynamic between AR and Dlo in the back-court. What exactly is the Lakers identity? I mean the offense was better this year but the defense fell off. Last year it was the defense that was good until they ran into Denver. I just don’t know what the thought process was. They have good players but they don’t fit
Its easy to empower coaches with no expectations. Coaching bron is chip or bust
Losing has consequences, Solo Sikoa( guy who lost thirty something match in a row)
Lakers don’t have the time needed to build a team like that with their current roster like the other teams around the league.
They should’ve kept their roster or as much of it as possible after their 2020 ring. They built up a championship team and then got rid of everything that made them who they were expect for the two stars. They got rid of everything looking for a super team and ever since then they’ve been on a downfall of looking for someone to blame, and players or coaches that didn’t fit.
At this point they just gotta keep trying this method until lebron retires because they don’t really have another choice
Forgot to add:
Similar to the 2011 mavs, they won and then got rid of everything and were never even close with the rest of Dirks career
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For the lakers they are doing it all wrong because all those championships are haunting them now because when you stuck in your ways it’s hard to adapt and that’s what lakers need to do . They need a fresh young minds to co work with who they got now that’s just my opinion
yeah? I mean I think Lakers fans that follow the team deeply knows its not only the coach, but he is or was part of the problem. What I do notice is there is a sign of resignation from the fanbase towards the FO that they will never leave. We know they fucked up with the Russ trade, we know firing Vogel was the wrong move. Just because there's a bunch of loud insane fans that doesn't mean that they represent the majority.
I honestly do not think ham was a bad coach. He isn’t a championship coach tho. He can do well on a young team. But I mean it’s also clear he lost the locker room
Did he talk about the knicks win in this video?
Darvin was an awful coach. The lakers front office has made a number of mistakes, most notably firing Vogel, trading for Westbrook, and letting Caruso go, but firing Darvin Ham was not one of those mistakes.
every video p makes he contradicts himself and then talks in circles
why is no one considering the lakers trading anthony davis?
Darvin not a rookie coach gang
If you think everyone is annoying maybe you the problem 😭
It was a whole different structure because Kobe was not a bum ass punk like Lebron in the end
The only reason this is a thing is because LeBron is attached to this team. The Lakers organization has been God awful even before he got there. The importance of consistency starts with the OWNER and the front office. But what I dont get is.....did you expect the team to win with someone who they don't respect? Change was needed & its started with the coach. Get a grip, sit back and lets see what ownership does.
Ham is horrible. Thank goodness he got released.
bron should leave bro
I hate to be that Laker fan that goes “C’mon P,”…but C’MOOOOON P! You think any of us want this organization?! I’d get rid of Lebron AND AD if I could have Spoelstra as a coach and Pat Riley as GM but we’re just not in the position to build a culture and really do shit until Jeanie Buss sells the team and Lebron leaves! You’re acting like Laker fans aren’t the FIRST ONES to tell you our culture and org sucks! Until then it’s gonna be misspelled statues, chasing fools gold in a third star, getting rid of all our young talent, firing coach after coach, and wasting Lebron’s last years to compete, all with no real leadership and accountability. If your point is it’s not just Darvin Ham, WE KNOW IT’S NOT JUST THE COACH BRO!