I love to watch your videos; they are so well constructed, your commentary is enhancing where many can be distracting, and your skill is a pleasure to see. Thank you so much😊.
I have a thought regarding Fibonacci ratios, knowing more about numbers than pottery (but still enjoying your videos). You may already know this, but the following concept has been very useful to me for doing quick conversions etc. since it learnt it. At the lower end of the sequence, the resolution between numbers is quite crude, because it uses integer values. However, the ratio still holds if you put a decimal point in at the same point of a larger number. This means you can use a more refined difference between quantities, because your approximation becomes more accurate. For example: if you use the 21st to 23rd numbers in the Fibonacci sequence, and add a decimal point, you get the following quantities (rounded up in brackets): 1.0946 (1.1) 1.7711 (1.8) 2.8657 (2.9) This is a subtle change, but maybe useful in some situations. It obviously slightly changes the proportions you use for these pots, whether that matters or not for you. Best wishes, MattBug
@@chubs2312 definitely, I was thinking about the trimming also, and decided that probably has more effect on variability anyway. The turned pots all looked very proportional.
Uh, Florian, i know you love to finish your pots by trimming, but it sure does not seem that you're going to find much excess here! They look pretty perfect as they are. Trim away!
The visual balance is based on the height, and the ratios between heights will actually be the cube root of the ratio of the weight. The actual ratio Florian ends up with here is strictly between 1.14-1.25, which is why the big difference doesnt bear out visually. Theres nothing special about the golden ratio here, it's just a constant scaling factor. The scaling factor is always going to be very close to 6:5, so arguably its that integer ratio that gives it a sense of balance, which is especially ironic because the golden ratio is famously the hardest irrational number to approximated with integer ratios.
It took way longer to open that box that I had thought, but it came in perfect condition though! A wonderful soup bowl already in use. The packaging peanuts tasted terrible though 😄
I genuinely learn so much from your videos. Im just a beginner potter and i learn a lot from watching videos from several different potters, but your videos are by far the most educational (and theyre fun to watch)! Thank you! :D
My man! Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into making your videos. I'm new to pottery, and just found your channel. To say it's been helpful is an extreme understatement. I binged some of your videos, and my skill level went up 4x overnight, I couldn't believe how well things went. Been at the wheel the last 2 days since, having an absolute blast. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge, thanks again!
Hello Florian, thank you for another lovely video. I don't throw pots and I watch your videos because I love seeing craftsmen who are good at their trade. I hope leaving this comment will add to the youtube algorithm :)
Interesting concept! I wonder if going by height or volume would make for an even better progression than weight. I _think_ sequencing the weight does not translate into the same sequence for height and volume.
Do these vases have a specific name or are of a particular style? I feel like this vase screams at me "look at me! I'm the most vase a vase shall be and also i cannot tolerate more than just the two most beautiful flowers you can think for me!" Also the fact that I can't peak or touch its inside kinda makes me furious fsr. I dig this.
Did you have in mind dimensions for the width and height of each vase or does the pleasing sequence of sizes happen organically due to your experience, talent and prepared weights?
Careful throwing with the Mudtools Sponge so often, it's really easy to become dependent on it. And next thing you know, you can't throw without it in hand.😁
I love your work, but the golden ratio element of this is a bit inaccurate. The Fibonacci sequence approaches the golden ratio only for sufficiently large terms. The smaller terms will have wildly disparate ratios. Consider how 2:1 and 3:2 are completely different ratios, and neither are super close to 1.618... :1 Additionally, for visual balance, it is generally the ratio's of the height that is considered visually pleasing, as the golden ratio emerges from a rectangle where the ratio between the smaller side and larger side is the same as between the larger side and the sum of the two sides. The "rectangle" within a pot is the cross section, and the height corresponds to the edges. When you double somethings height, you actually octuple (x8) it's weight (picture how 8 1x1x1 cubes fit inside a 2x2x2 cube). Throwing with weights corresponding to the golden ratio produces pieces with hieghts that differ by a factor of about 1.17. throwing corresponding to the first few Fibonacci numbers will have factors between 1.14 and 1.25 The visual appeal of the pots you've made here has nothing to do with the golden ratio, its simply what happens when you throw pieces with an even scaling factor. That could be 1.1, 1.17, 1.2, 1.618, as long as its the same (or even close to the same) it'll look good.
Gonna try this with a set of nesting bowls! I also like your little tip on dry centering the bigger amount of clay 🙂
I love to watch your videos; they are so well constructed, your commentary is enhancing where many can be distracting, and your skill is a pleasure to see. Thank you so much😊.
There's nothing quite like the sound, of the hum of the wheel, while quietly lifting the cylinder... It is peace...😊❤
I have a thought regarding Fibonacci ratios, knowing more about numbers than pottery (but still enjoying your videos). You may already know this, but the following concept has been very useful to me for doing quick conversions etc. since it learnt it.
At the lower end of the sequence, the resolution between numbers is quite crude, because it uses integer values. However, the ratio still holds if you put a decimal point in at the same point of a larger number. This means you can use a more refined difference between quantities, because your approximation becomes more accurate.
For example: if you use the 21st to 23rd numbers in the Fibonacci sequence, and add a decimal point, you get the following quantities (rounded up in brackets):
1.0946 (1.1)
1.7711 (1.8)
2.8657 (2.9)
This is a subtle change, but maybe useful in some situations. It obviously slightly changes the proportions you use for these pots, whether that matters or not for you.
Best wishes, MattBug
For handmade pottery which is still going to be trimmed you could say you don't need as much precision
@@chubs2312 definitely, I was thinking about the trimming also, and decided that probably has more effect on variability anyway. The turned pots all looked very proportional.
Uh, Florian, i know you love to finish your pots by trimming, but it sure does not seem that you're going to find much excess here! They look pretty perfect as they are. Trim away!
The visual balance is based on the height, and the ratios between heights will actually be the cube root of the ratio of the weight. The actual ratio Florian ends up with here is strictly between 1.14-1.25, which is why the big difference doesnt bear out visually. Theres nothing special about the golden ratio here, it's just a constant scaling factor. The scaling factor is always going to be very close to 6:5, so arguably its that integer ratio that gives it a sense of balance, which is especially ironic because the golden ratio is famously the hardest irrational number to approximated with integer ratios.
Very lovely set of vases and you made them so quickly.
fascinating idea! can't wait to see em fired all together.
I always followed and follow this sequence, in my ceramics, paintings, or textile layouts. I used it too when in Thomastown 😊
The progression on the thumbnail looks good
What An adorable pottery snag you have walking around your shop.
It took way longer to open that box that I had thought, but it came in perfect condition though! A wonderful soup bowl already in use. The packaging peanuts tasted terrible though 😄
I genuinely learn so much from your videos. Im just a beginner potter and i learn a lot from watching videos from several different potters, but your videos are by far the most educational (and theyre fun to watch)! Thank you! :D
My man! Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into making your videos.
I'm new to pottery, and just found your channel. To say it's been helpful is an extreme understatement. I binged some of your videos, and my skill level went up 4x overnight, I couldn't believe how well things went. Been at the wheel the last 2 days since, having an absolute blast.
I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge, thanks again!
Thank you, Florian! I’ve learned so much from you ❤❤❤
What a nice display these would make together. I think I will try to wood turn something like this.
Hello Florian, thank you for another lovely video. I don't throw pots and I watch your videos because I love seeing craftsmen who are good at their trade. I hope leaving this comment will add to the youtube algorithm :)
Ripper idea. Thank you!!!!!
This is such a good idea!
A nice easy challenge this week then Florian! Thanks 😂
Good luck friend!
I'll post my attempt 😂
Interesting concept! I wonder if going by height or volume would make for an even better progression than weight. I _think_ sequencing the weight does not translate into the same sequence for height and volume.
So beautiful.
Thank you for this video. Very helpful.
Do these vases have a specific name or are of a particular style? I feel like this vase screams at me "look at me! I'm the most vase a vase shall be and also i cannot tolerate more than just the two most beautiful flowers you can think for me!" Also the fact that I can't peak or touch its inside kinda makes me furious fsr. I dig this.
Beautiful! 👏🏻
Thank you for sharing!
Nice vases! They resemble marimba pipes 🎉
Magnificent! 👏🏻
Hi big fan from India 🇮🇳❤❤.
never been so early! seated for another great video
I want to try 😆
Will we see the later stages?
I hope so! Trimming them today, so I’ll film that process too.
Awesome!! 😎
Thanks!
Did you have in mind dimensions for the width and height of each vase or does the pleasing sequence of sizes happen organically due to your experience, talent and prepared weights?
00:00 when the clay talk back
How did you break into the pottery world?
how much clay he used fro the biggest vase, please?
5 lb, about 2.27 kg.
@@floriangadsby Thank you Florian.
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I thought you would be making their heights using the fibbonachi sequence, not their weights. Still, interesting idea!
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Careful throwing with the Mudtools Sponge so often, it's really easy to become dependent on it. And next thing you know, you can't throw without it in hand.😁
That's true. On the other hands, if you throw with groggery clay, it is a good protection of your hands.
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I love your work, but the golden ratio element of this is a bit inaccurate.
The Fibonacci sequence approaches the golden ratio only for sufficiently large terms. The smaller terms will have wildly disparate ratios. Consider how 2:1 and 3:2 are completely different ratios, and neither are super close to 1.618... :1
Additionally, for visual balance, it is generally the ratio's of the height that is considered visually pleasing, as the golden ratio emerges from a rectangle where the ratio between the smaller side and larger side is the same as between the larger side and the sum of the two sides. The "rectangle" within a pot is the cross section, and the height corresponds to the edges. When you double somethings height, you actually octuple (x8) it's weight (picture how 8 1x1x1 cubes fit inside a 2x2x2 cube). Throwing with weights corresponding to the golden ratio produces pieces with hieghts that differ by a factor of about 1.17. throwing corresponding to the first few Fibonacci numbers will have factors between 1.14 and 1.25
The visual appeal of the pots you've made here has nothing to do with the golden ratio, its simply what happens when you throw pieces with an even scaling factor. That could be 1.1, 1.17, 1.2, 1.618, as long as its the same (or even close to the same) it'll look good.
Are you using ai to narrate? The word, timing is, odd.
Nope, that’s just his speech pattern. Which I find very clear and helpful.
I just wanted to ruin it and ask the question that is very frowned upon. DO YOU LISTEN TO TOOL?!?!
W00t!! Doggie sighting!!!! 🥰 I wish one of those boxes was coming to my house. I was too late. 😭
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