As a post-script to this video, I'd just like to point out that there are no real hard-and-fast rules when it comes to sinking ships. Footage of Britannic's wreck seems to indicate that her grand staircase weather cover remains intact, while the staircase and dome beneath are wrecked. This could be due to a number of factors, like the speed at which Britannic sank or how much the Boat deck level of the grand staircase had flooded up until that point. Titanic will keep many of her mysteries - but the sinking of vessels like Baragoola demonstrates many of the impacts that water has on a sinking ship and can help us guess as to what might have happened on other famous liners through history, like Lusitania and the Empress of Ireland. ~Mike
@@DannyDraws1912 I love the Andrea Doria. That crazy bathroom with the painted mural inside its toilet...lol.😂 So wonderfully 1950's tacky but such a beautiful ship!
Right Stephen! Nothing from the lower-hull up, save for perhaps the very bow and stern of a ship, is designed to submerge. Water can do some crazy things - the video I did on Lusitania's encounter with a rogue wave has some photos of ships after they had their bridges and superstructures staved in by the weight of a wave!
Some of the _Titanic_ survivors talked about the big thing that stayed with them even all those years later were the sounds. They said it was indescribable. The screams of the people still on the ship, anything that wasn't secured down falling and crashing through walls, the sounds of the ship creaking and groaning, the sounds of the ship breaking apart, it was truly horrific. This video just gives a small hint of what it must have been like. It's no wonder they talked about how even years later they would still wake up in the night reliving it.
There was one survivor,Frank John William Goldsmith Jr., who would not go to baseball games because the sound of the crowds roaring during a homerun or other big event reminded him of the screaming of the people dying in the water after the ship sank.
Cameron’s author friend Charles Pellegrino went into detail about the staircase in his 2001 book “Ghosts of the Titanic” - his theory was that the staircase as a whole was buoyant, tore out of the ship and floated upward - explaining why nothing was there and the dome structure gone. He further speculates that the floating parts of the staircase may have been refuge for survivors, but that it then drifted away from the search area.
I think the grand staircase did not float out of the dome on the surface. After all, the dome cover wasn't all made of glass like the dome. I think only small pieces of the wood floated out while the main bit of the broken A deck landing stayed trapped under the dome cover. When the ship was descending, I think the forces of the water ripped off the dome cover like how it made the forward mast collapse. If it's not that, then the plume of high pressure water behind the bow crushed the cover and all the grand staircase decks below it when the bow landed on the sea floor.
Should note that in his Titanic book Pellegrino has many offhand ideas and speculations about the sinking, but is not a technical expert in this field. His theories are a great read and intriguing, even after the more recent incident where his book and movie project about Hiroshima were canceled when it turned out parts of the “true story” had been invented by one of his sources.
When I was in the US Navy, I was part of an effort to monitor and build a sound library of sinking ships. (Okay, yes -- had to do with over the horizon targeting; as in, how do you know that you have sunk a ship when you shoot at it from a distance?) Long story... But basically there are all manner of sound signatures from a sinking vessel. There's the initial explosion in the case of a bomb, missile, torpedo. (Or the sound of an iceberg scraping the hull, per Titanic.) And fire makes noise. Then you have flow sounds as flooding moves through the ship -- kind of like the sound of squirting a hose inside a metal garbage can. Combine this with internal sounds of machinery that is still moving, such as boilers, turbines, gear-reduction systems, etc. until they spin down or seize up, which makes noise of its own. Add in water-hammer effects, as in banging and sloshing from back & forth movement (and variations on what's called "ullage," meaning partially empty spaces with sloshing water). Then you have really eerie sounds of steel twisting, buckling and tearing. Welds ripping. Rivets popping. Closed doors -- even "watertight doors" that are dogged shut -- bursting open with massive bangs, even popping off the hinges. And sealed compartments collapsing under water pressure, just sledge-hammed bangs. And flow resonances -- humming, sort of -- as the ship drops down through the water column. The resonances actually change frequency as the corpse of the hull drops through different layers, at different temps and salinities. And then you have impact with bottom, the sound of which depends on hard, sandy, mud, etc. There's the sound of the ship hitting, plus a measurable seismic event in the seafloor, often measurable far away via seismograph. And a massive swooshing sound as the hull pushes water and bottom material out of the way as it plows in. Add in bottom bounce of sound waves bouncing back from sea floor to surface, and reflecting back down from the surface (Snell's Law in physics). And then the sound of the ship breaking up during the impact, not unlike the sound of a car crash with all the twisted metal. Meanwhile, depending on the water column, there's "direct path" sound which is noise from the sinking ship, and that fades within the seawater in a ratio of distance-squared from the emitter. But there are also sounds that move via "convergence zones" in the ocean, such that you can hear noises many miles away; like dozens or multiple dozens. And then there are "deep sound channels" that can transmit the noise many hundreds or even thousands of miles away. All in all, a sinking ship is a noisy thing.
James Cameron talks about the grand staircase. They built an exact replica of it for the film using plans from Titanic. It was not attached to the ship but remained in place due to its weight and fitting to the superstructure. During filming when they submerged the set including the staircase, it broke free and floated. A major safety issue for the stunt team but Cameron realized that it was the reason there was no trace of it at the wreck. Being Oak it probably still is recognisable but where it is, that's the real question.
He was building a MOVIE prop, not an actual replica of the Grand Staircase. The prop floated out not the real staircase. There are remains of the staircase at the bottom of E deck. The THG guys cover this in great detail.
@@lacey457-z5eactually it was a replica and not a prop. They rebuilt 80% of the ship at 90% scale for the film, so lots of ways things sunk or floated would have been accurate to the actual sinking. So it was not ‘a prop floated out not the actual staircase’ it WAS Cameron’s actual staircase. It floated off just like the real staircase did and at some point after Titanic settled on the ocean floor the broken timber and steel from the stairs settled at the bottom of E deck. But by the time they had the technology to search that deep into the wreck the wood had been eaten away into nothing, leaving just more twisted metal at the bottom of that deep hole where the staircase originally sat.
Listening to the audio of the Baragoola sinking gives me the chills. I'd never thought about it before. Sinking ships man, it's scary. Your tiny steel little island's death rattle. Imagine listening to that sound from a lifeboat, and then maybe throw in screams. What an awful experience for anyone to live through.
Absolutely right! There is so little audio recording of ships sinking - you can only imagine what that would sound like on a vessel the size of Lusitania or Titanic!
It’s crazy to think how all the destruction that happened that night was all linked to water pressure. The bridge, the funnels, and the entire grand stair case, and now that I think about it, it could have possibly influenced the break-up as-well. Amazing video, keep up the great work!
@@Nephalem2002 the breakup was actually caused by the keel bending due to compression.. the breakup started at the bottom . As the bow sunk down the center of buoyancy shifted aft underneath the larger machinery spaces which were more hollow and open the bottom of the keel compressed upwards pushing her lower decks upwards the breakup stopped at the strength decks then it started breaking from the top down and stopped at the strength decks then finally the strength decks separated. . When they found the missing keel sections they found that on both ends where the 2 pieces were once joined together they had compression bends which shows the breakup started at the keel due to all of the ships buoyancy being shifted to one area of the keel that was not built to withstand that kind of buoyancy pressure
it did and also the engines the way that titanic was built there were jeaby engines in the back pulling the back down so while it was sinkinf theres wayer pulling the front down and engines pulling the back down and then evntually the ships structure cant handle it
I think what's really cool is that during the 1997 filming of Titanic, they accidently discovered what very well could have happened to the grand staircase. Most at that time thought it'd most likely just decayed, but on set when the water came rushing in, the staircase suddenly detached and started to float. They quickly stopped filming and aided actors to avoid any injury. But it answered the question of the vanished staircase.
So cool to hear you talk about the Baragoola! My dad had been a massive supporter of its restoration, eventually making digital art for the society to print on mugs, tshirts, posters, and for use on their website, to help with funding the restoration. We were both devastated to hear of its sinking, but are very happy to hear it being mentioned :)
Regarding the violent, estimated 35-40 MPH impact with the ocean floor, I figured that everything inside the Titanic would have been jarred loose and reduced to rubble. But the ROV footage from inside the wreck was surprising; lots of items like delicate chandeliers still hanging from ceilings, intact cabins with clocks still on dressers (which you would figure to have been tossed off on impact) the Turkish Bath all there, and the list goes on. I was surprised to still see wooden items inside the ship, as all wood on the outside, including the exposed staircase, was eaten away by the bacteria that is consuming the rest of the wreck. It's amazing how much is actually still there.
The expression "They don't build'em like they used to" comes to mind. It's hard to imagine everything wasn't jostled loose or smashed to smithereens, but the wrecks photos show it to be true. Maybe it really was just craftsmanship (combined with the lower decks being pretty-well flooded by the end) that preserved so much.
@@Unownshipper or...or....wait for it.... The ghosts from the recently deceased tidy up their rooms before realizing they had become ghost. Like mental conversation why is my clock on the floor that belongs on the mantle and why is my room flooded....oh wait I'm dead. Lol I'm high I'll see myself out now.
@@trickyfoxx6941 Hopefully not the maids or waiters. When their ticket gets punched, they ought to be able to say "that's it, no more cleaning up for me."
I expect many features like clocks on mantelpieces would have been bolted down - as they often are on ships. Obviously you don't want clocks and vases and ashtrays flying all over the place whenever you go through some rough sea.
Exactly that's just incredible, though we must remember that fragiles parts that were left intact inside the ship, mostly come from the bow section of which the actualy bow and front of up ship up until the first funnel mostly absored the impact with the sea floor. That's why the bow is so deeply imbedded into the sea floor, plus the crack in the ships body down below at where the bridge used to be. Even though Titanic would've been small compaired to modern cruise ships, we tend to forget how large the ship was and the impact that she could and did take.
I remember seeing an interview with Robert Ballard saying how he’d dreamed of sending an ROV down the Grand Staircase and was disappointed when he discovered it had been destroyed. Until the 1980‘s the deep ocean floors were believed to be biologically dead from lack of nutrients so all the wooden fittings would have been preserved. Another great video! 👍🏼
A possible alternative: the glass etc. was shattered by air pressure. The air is being displaced by the incoming water. You can see how violently water bubbles out of the hull of the sinking ferry at the same time you can hear the glass breaking.
Water pressure coming in would definitely mean air pressure coming out. That is all the huge spray seen blowing out like geysers in Cameron's film as the ship is upending.
Wood likes to float. I suppose the fact that wood likes to float and the pressure combined just ripped everything apart. The staircase I believe began to separate and raise up. Once submerged the dome and cover were gone allowing the broken up staircase to just float out of the massive hole. The bridge likely broke up like you said. Water smashes in the front of the bridge loosening the wood and making it break apart before she even splits.
That actually happened with the staircase built for the 1997 film when they flooded the set, constructed in a very similar manner to the staircase on the actual ship.
You are right sir. I believe it was in the documentary with Bill Paxton going down in the sub (ghosts of the abyss) that the grand staircase was gravity-set and as soon as the ship went under it would have been fighting to break free via the easiest route available.
There's also speculation that the wood didn't float up out of the dome, but rather out *back* through the corridors. Even still, wood floating doesn't really explain the metal frame under the steps being missing (which I want to say was where the speculation of it being pulled aft out of the ship came from, but I can't recall my source aside from it being a thread on the ET forums, so don't trust me on it)
Wood might like to float - up to a point, but if it always floated there wouldn't be thousands of wooden ships at the bottom of the ocean. Mary Rose, Vasa, (formerly) Batavia etc etc etc as well as ancient ships.
@@LandyVlad_Rides Those had to be solid meant for water. The staircase and bridge were not. The staircase was held in place by gravity once it flooded that staircase came apart. The bridge had to have smashed in from water pressure breaking up just a few feet underwater. Solid wood ships were well meant to be solid entirely where as metal hull ships needed a solid metal hull the wood was secured like it is in a house on metal hull ships.
in the making of features of Titanic, Cameron states a near accident happened while filming the grand staircase flooding scene. Though the set was fastened securely, the wood stairs detatched and started to float while water flooded with stunt extras were being filmed, not planned or expected. From that he figured that is what happened in real life, it just floated out the top after breaking off and violently scattered during decent
I'll be that's right. Even if the real staircase was more firmly secured in place than the film set replica, that just means that (by the time it reached a lower level of submersion in the sea) it would've smashed through the dome with greater force. It's no wonder the staircase looks like a giant cannonball blasted through it.
@@Garsons-oq4lh That'll probably never happen. Not just because of the resource and technological demands needed for such a thing, but also because the wreck itself is a gravesite and shouldn't be disturbed that way in my opinion.
Interesting that you mention the poor old Baragoola. I was a few months short of 9 years old when she made her last run in January, 1983. I remember her well in service in the few years of my life before that time. Baragoola had the problem of not having been out of the water and drydocked for nigh on 40 years. (I know she'd had her propellers removed at both ends, but I'm not sure how). Her hull was paper thin and patched with concrete in places. Sadly her sinking was only a matter of time. I know this has nothing to do with Titanic, it's just that despite Titanic's fame, it's a ship that no one alive today has ever seen afloat. Baragoola meant more to me than most Ocean Liners ever will. Thanks otherwise for another interesting video. 🙂🚢
The Baragoola sinking is a damn shame. She looked like an alright little boat despite the rusty crusty hull. Woulda made for a hell of a tourist ferry like the ones you see in places like Washington DC or NYC, or even a floating museum/tourist attraction after a good refit, probably a Ship of Theseus level hull repair, and a fresh coat of paint.
@@lsswappedcessna I think the idea had been for many years, to try and get her operational again, but with Covid hitting the world and causing all sorts of problems, the ability to work on the ferry, along with necessary financial input from donations, obviously wasn't there. Some government assistance in the form of a large donation (say $1 Million or so) would have done wonders for the Society that owned her. Sadly though in Australia, both sides of politics are reluctant to help fund moving heritage, be it buses, trains, trams, ferries, old cars, tractors, or even a wheelbarrow! This is left to the owners to fund through whatever means they can. In the UK it is somewhat better as the Heritage Lottery Fund makes substantial contributions to a wide variety of heritage groups every year, providing a win-win-win situation for all concerned.
I had travelled on the Baragoola quite a number of times. I also used to travel past her often when boating on Sydney Harbour. What a tragic loss, it broke my heart.
Interesting video Mike! That's a shame about poor old Baragoola. It shows the long-term corrosive and erosive effects of a salt water environment are not to be underestimated. As the saying goes "Rust never sleeps."
A titanic surviver said while he was standing near the grand staircase dome, it broken with imploding sounds and the pressure tried to take him inside the hole which means it surely imploded due to the pressure. And also in google results they say the wheel house and bridge destroyed when titanic's first funnels fallen on to them
I’m not an expert at all, but the wheelhouse being destroyed by the funnel falling onto it makes more sense than total destruction by water pressure. Why (IMHO): the glass area is relatively big, the sides are completely open, and the volume of the wheelhouse is not to big either. This opens the possibility that water pressure inside and outside could level out very quickly, at which point destruction by implosion is unlikely. My $0.02.
@@TheSoundsnake Most accounts state the funnel fell starboard. A few people say it was port. Either way, it's pretty much established the funnel didn't fall *forward* and crushed the bridge.
@@hazyhope._. I didn’t dive into that aspect, just saw someone mentioning in this thread that the funnel fell onto the wheelhouse. Physics are simple: equal pressure, nothing gets crushed. I would think that the wheelhouse would fill quickly enough through all the holes (shattered windows and open sides) to equalize the pressure. But I don’t know at what speed the wheelhouse hit the water, the water entering through the front windows might as well have blown of the roof due to the air pressure building up. The physics of pressure building up are behind most issues with blowing up windows and collapsing roof structures etc., always good to think through the various scenario’s and have a bit of an understanding how these forces act. I’m not an eye witness, so anything reasonable is acceptable, and when the funnel fell sideways, it must have been pressure (water or even air). One should be able to calculate/estimate the minimum speed of hitting the water required to blow the wheelhouse apart, based on volume, open area (windows, sides) and construction. That would be nice!
@@TheSoundsnake I think your 2 cents is worth a few dollars! I always noticed the starboard bridge wing flattened in the wreckage. Tbe funnel definitely could have clipped the bridge and wrenched attached wing structures. If not this, the forces plunging down to the bottom would have washed it away.
It was documented that when James Cameron was filming the sinking scenes for his Titanic movie both crew and actors that were on the grand staircase were shocked to find it beginning to float. I would guess that the staircase in the actual ship was so large and heavy that it kept itself in place once built. So could they have possibly broken up and floated away during the trip to the ocean floor?
i think that likely. though id imagine it was more securely attached than a temporary movie set in expectation of having to weather heavy seas so stayed attached for longer than the movie recreation did. which, of course, would result in that much more damage when it finally let loose.
@@JACCO20082012 one thing i think the movie got wrong that would explain the bending of steel both ways in the double bottom is that after her back broke that let millions of gallons of water a huge new way of ingress and cause the area around the break to settle more quickly resulting in the remaining buoyancy in the stern causing it to them fold back upwards against the forward part of the ship until it was dragged under by the forward part. this would explain why all the bending and rending of the double bottom isnt only in 1 direction.
@@thurin84 More accurately: The Double-bottom buckled inward, shoved up the boilers into the upper levels, the hull was effectively fucked at a much shallower angle, but the Superstructure held the ship together until it eventually was torn apart from the stress. Resulting in a "top-down" (that was actually a bottom-up) break, the superstructure and hull tears free, but the Double-Bottom section is still attached, only bent. While still attached to the now-plunging bow, the Stern is pulled down by it, until it to eventually breaks off. That explains everything much more cleanly, how the ship chunks ended up where they are, and that bending in two directions.
When the High Seas Fleet was scuttled, there was a group of school children being ferried around Scapa Flow, one of their memories was how LOUD it all was as several dozen warships sank in their midst.
If I remember correctly during the filming of the 1997 film when filing the flooding scene of the staircase the thing ripped from its mount and floated away. It was probably more solid and sturdy than the dome and while it'll have ripped apart, it'll have also floated away. I think there were reports of broken timber floating in the sea after the event as well.
You have such a great way of explaining things. The extra art and diagrams really help us understand the story. Good job, I'm going to check out your channel. On another note: when you talked about the subs parking on the roof of the officer's quarters I got a sudden flashback to hearing that that was causing rapid deterioration of the structure. It would be an interesting companion video this one exploring how expeditions to the wreck have hastened it's destruction. I think I read something about expeditions being denied for this reason but that could also be attributed to stopping treasure hunters or trying to respect the dead.
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Whoopee do. God doesn't exist - just a figment of ignorant superstitious people's imaginations. You can prattle on all you like to your fellow believers, but don't force it down everyone else's throats. I'll take my chances, thank you very much.
If you look at the ship sinking videos available here on UA-cam you can see what appears to be smoke pouring out of the last parts of the ship above water. This is usually dust being forced out in the rapidly escaping air as the ship sinks. Even watching videos of sinkings for artificial reefs help teach us more about what goes on as a ship sinks.
The most accepted scenario is Cameron's theory, and there undeniable intense physics at play. But studying the wreck photos, I feel positive that the second funnel crashed into the skylight housing, parts of which are visible on the wreck, and the cause of bowing to the walls and collapse of the A deck roof.
Something else I've heard is that while they were filming "Titanic" in the very accurately built replica, the Grand Staircase began to float during the sinking sequences, having never been designed to resist anything other than gravity. This floating and breakup greatly endangered the actors, and resulted in the set staircase being rebuilt but anchored to the 'deck'. If true, then likely the original Grand Staircase of the Titanic would have floated to the surface, likely in bits, and drifted quickly away. Well done, thanks again.
From what I understand, there's two components to the Grand Staircase: The wooden panels, and the metal frame to support them. The wood would definitely float off, but the real mystery is what happened to the metal frame they were resting on.
I wish they had interviewed the survivors when they were much younger and not waited till they gotten older cuz we would've had a more vivid clear description on what really happened that night.
Can't wait for this! The fate of the grand staircase is something that interests me, as it is almost completely gone. Just thinking that such a grand piece of art could end up as a few rotten wooden beams and nails is already a shocking thought. Am looking forward to this! -12 hours before premier
Another creator theorized that the in rush of water pressure when the dome imploded basically tore through the grand staircase and it’s remains flew up out of the hole as Titanic took her journey to the bottom
@@Engine33Truck theres another theory that states "the staircase with stood the sinking but when the water column descended upon the wreck it crushed the staircase"
According to James Cameron when the skylight collapse was filmed the massive inrush of water literally raised up the Grand Staircase set and broke it apart, something they never expected as the set was VERY solidly built to the same specifications as the original. Luckily no-one was injured. Cameron's opinion is what happened to the set is most likely what happened to the original. Cameron's got an opinion on the Californian too, but this isn't the time or place. Let's just say Jim's not a "Lordite." ;)
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 I don't think the grand staircase itself would have floated OUT of the dome like quite a lot of people think, at most it would've just been destroyed and all the debris trapped under the dome cover.
Hey Mike, I'm a Sydney ferry enthusiast, and it was great to see you talk about Baragoola. It was a huge loss for all of us Sydney boat nerds, and her only remaining sister named North Head better last longer.
So, when the bridge was submerging/submerged, the walls could have popped and let a rush of water into the wheelhouse, then the officers quarters? The windows on the sides of the officer's quarters: would they have smashed as they were submerging? What about the ventilation inlets near the funnels? This video was very interesting! Thank you Mike!
Good points Thoji! The Officer's Quarters windows were brass-framed and photographs show that they were fairly thick, the style probably designed for use in more exposed parts of H&W ships likely to receive a battering from the ocean. They were also relatively compact; unlike the large, broad windows to the first class entrance and gymnasium. I'm not sure that they would have shattered; rather that the broken ones on the wreck today are the result of the heavy impact with the sea floor. Some were even forced open by this impact! The vents and intakes were also lightly built, and we know there were some extreme water pressure effects as 2nd Officer Lightoller was pinned to the grate of one at the foot of Number 1 funnel before fortunately being blasted free. The rule seems to be that the larger, or broader the surface of the object under pressure, the greater the forces acting upon it; so the relatively small vent intakes did not break up, while the large, broad surfaces of the staircase dome cover were unable to withstand the force of the water. ~Mie
@@OceanlinerDesigns As long as air has an escaperoute, the destruction will be less. Most likely, all air escaped via the hole where the dome was. Also big waves has a tendency to destroy steel and windows, assuming Harland knew this, and reinforced parts of the superstructure and front of the ship.
It's always nice when one content creator refers to other channels. Little did we know about hidden situations occurring in "Adventures with Purpose" behind the scenes.
I remember mythbusters tested the idea of getting sucked into a sinking ship and got it dead wrong The effect on the titanic was similar to partially submerging an open soda bottle, anything near the hole will be sucked in very quickly They tested it with an old fishing boat that didn't sink in the correct way to create a suction force, since the boat sunk at roughly the same speed it filled with water from holes in the hull, there was no suction Titanic sink faster than it could fill with water, therefore, water flooded in from any entrance it could find, creating massive suction forces
In his documentary, James Cameron told of observing that his set of the stairwell, while flooded with water, developed massive buoyancy. This continued until the anchors broke and two stuntmen were trapped (uninjured). The set was apparently recreated relatively faithfully. It seems very likely that during the sinking process, the entire stairwell collapsed through the dome and cover due to the upward buoyancy of the wooden structure.
Well, I am facinated as to why, the other heavy woodwork, made solid, like the staircase, with the intricate colored glass pieces, is all still intact, like, a full 2 story wall, it seems like, in the submersible videos and photos. But, I would LOVE to hear more about The Olympic, that is my favorite of the White Star Liners. She was the most beautiful, and she would still be with us, today, in all her glory, just think about it.....if idiots had not demolished her, in a shipyard as scrap. It just breaks my heart. That gorgeous ship could still be here, today, running historical voyages, or preserved like The Queen Mary. Just really hurts.
Good to hear you using the word ‘timber’ rather than what most simply call ‘wood’. Timber is cut and dressed wood that is carefully stacked for a number of years to allow ‘seasoning’ and controlled shrinkage to occur. In this way wood becomes timber which can be relied upon not to further shrink or distort when it is finally used for construction of furniture, ships decks, etc. etc.
Definitely as you said, the rooms that slowly flooded didn’t see as much damage as there wasn’t a huge pressure difference. The faster it sinks, the rooms haven’t filled up as fast as the water on the outsides and creates tremendous force. I also learned on a Titanic documentary with James Cameron about hydraulic forces at play when the ship hit the ocean floor as the hull compressed that water has to go somewhere and it blasted the cargo hatches quite a distance away from the wreck then you’d have a water column that the ship displaced on its way down weighing thousands of tons coming down on top of the wreck and bending the aft section down and causing further damage to the officers quarters and such as well. It’s really surprising that she stayed together as much as she did considering the physics of everything.
im more interested in britannic dome and grand staircase. is it still intact? you owuld think divers owuld have checked it out. pictures of britannic showed that althoguh most of the furnishing were gone since she was a hospital ship, the grand staircase railings were left.
Good question! Britannic's dome weather cover is intact, although the dome beneath is destroyed and rests in pieces at the bottom. The staircase seems to mostly be gone, and from limited photographs I have seen, resembles Titanic's in that it exists now as a jumbled pile of twisted steel footings and scaffolding.
@@OceanlinerDesigns i did more searching and their are dive pictures of the "cover" that went over the dome of the staircase which is still intact. (not sure if its forward or aft dome cover) but no o ne has taken a picture of the inside or go in because its apparently forbidden . u need permission from greek government AND the owner to get inside.
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Make sure whenever you watch 1997’s Titanic you have the historical audio commentary as there are a bunch of really neat tidbits and insights about the ship.
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Water can be a terrifying beast. I have a family member who is a fisherman, and he’s told me stories of waves that were so powerful that they actually dented the steel hull of his boat. He showed me pictures of this and I was blown away. Moral of the story: Don’t underestimate water.
Your videos are phenomenal and instructive. I have learned a lot about the tragedy of the Titanic. You have obviously done a lot of research and even though you are still a very young man, seem to be extremely knowledgable on the subject. Many thanks. I am a big fan of your videos and may I say, of you yourself because you are very pleasing to the eye also.
Even when they filmed the destruction of the dome in Titanic, right after the camera cuts out is when the staircase on the set broke off and floated up. It's probably why there are a couple pieces of Grand Staircase wood that survived floating, from forward or aft, as well as one of the lounge's carved panels from above a door (that one was likely right where the ship snapped, too). It's interesting to look at the debris field, too, since the aft dome's iron frame is mostly in one piece there.
Just got home and what was waiting on the computer for me? A OD&I "Premiere" It;s really sad to see any ship sink at berth. As always thanks for the info and great narration. Good to see you again, thanks for your time and work....
There's a photo out there purporting to show the very center portion of the aft grand staircase dome somewhere in the debris field. It's been published in at least one book.
3:51 the 'F' bomb. We tend to have a vision of the passengers aboard Titanic of staid and politeness. But I'd love to think of at least one "What the f*@k!?" being introduced from Titanic's lifeboats during her sinking.
@@electrickrain The F word is already attested in the middle ages. So yes, of course it existed in 1912. But perhaps it wasn't used as much. But expletives were certainly used that night.
Nice video again !!! A little comment though: there is no evidence that the bulkhead between boiler rooms #6 and #5 collapsed. For some engineer, it is very unlikely, and the testimonial that related the sudden inflow of water may have been instead caused by the collapse of a coal hold door (which was flooded). But as you said in another video, this is the kind of the numerous mysteries that the Titanic will keep forever,
I think its more the strength of the hull and superstructure being twisted and bent (hog and sag effect depending on the way a ship sinks), that will make the windows crack. I have experienced this when in drydock with ships I worked on. Windows are quite strong on ships, but if you twist and bend a ships metal structure, glass is still the weak point. And no ships are designed to handle the stress a sinking event causes on its structural integrity. I believe it was broken long before she went under water. Nice video though. A fan from Norway
Just speculating here I wouldn't be surprised if remnants of the Grand Staircase are miles away from the wreck. If they found pieces of the aft grand staircase dome it has to be out there in one part of land that hasn't been searched yet.
There is an extra bit to JCs Titanic, They built the Grand Stair case from solid oak for the the movie. During filming it was ripped loose during a take and floating up becoming a real hazard. This I feel is good evidence that in combination with your video that the litter staircase also contributed to the covers demise.
it was discovered what happened to the staircase during filming as the staircase was built to exact specifications as the original on set it was actually captures in one of the deleted scenes the staircase was not bolted down so when the ship began to sink it eventually became buoyant and simply floated up and out of the ship james camron talked about this it was a very interesting finding that really no one had put together as being a problem and the set and the ship staircase were constructed in the same manner so they were both only held in place by gravity
During filming they had several levels of the grand staircase built for the flooding scene. When they were flooding it it actually started coming apart do to the buoyancy of the wood almost immediately.. now before you say well it’s just a movie set. Camron and his team built the set to pretty much the exact blueprints right down to the materials use on the real ship ( the only difference was it was slightly wider) it’s explained in the behind the scenes of the film.
You make a good argument, but two things that should be considered is 1. the TITANIC was a much bigger ship then the ship in your example; 2. the depth of TITANIC is FAR greater, meaning astronomically greater pressure as well. The second is considerably more significant, and, while it bolsters your point, both vessels cannot really be compared in magnitude. That being said, your arguments make sense. Also, parts of the staircase dome have been found on the bottom (though they are believed to be from the AFT Grand Staircase, in the area of the "missing piece" behind the 3rd funnel.)
Amazing video. It is amazing to see someone actually dive in *drums crash* to the sinking of the Baragoola. She is an amazing vessel and when I was on one of the ferries there, I saw her and the South Steyne and I went off my head, I screamed out "There's South Steyne!!". Sad that she went and apparently she had been sinking for nearly a day very slowly and apparently the crew on the Cape Don noticed that it was going down and raised the alert. Next, her sister North Head or successor Queenscliff will hit the bottom, that's if we see North Head return to the seas. Listening to that video is haunting- a ship "dying" pretty much. Sad to see that she has been lost to time. I would've thought that the snapping may have been ropes. You should do a video specifically on Baragoola and her sister ships (Bingarra, Burra- Bra, Bellubera, Balgowah and Barrenjoey/North Head) in a world where they all had careers and all lived long careers. Brilliant video once again and very well done.
It's more likely that the in-rush of water that Barratt reported in boiler room No. 5 came from the inundated coal bunker door giving way rather than a bulkhead collapsing...
how much i watch this information by titanic, how more i respect this ship and people who died there on 1912. and still today i love Titanic with all my heart
The central element of the grand staircase dome was found near the wreck. It is very likely that during the impact with the bottom of the ocean, the pressure of the water inside pushed the entire structure, destroying it in the process for the most part.
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The RMS Laurentic had a grand staircase similar to that of the Olympic class ships, just less lavish - there's a photo easily findable on Google Images, it has the dome and all. The ship sank in World War I. I wonder if her grand staircase is still intact or not.
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James Cameron mentioned during an interview that when they were flooding the grand staircase for the movie, the wooden staircase broke loose from the floor and started to float. So he believes it broke up as it came lose and pieces floated away through the hole im the dome. There are pieces of the dome in the ocean floor which proves it broke off.
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As a post-script to this video, I'd just like to point out that there are no real hard-and-fast rules when it comes to sinking ships. Footage of Britannic's wreck seems to indicate that her grand staircase weather cover remains intact, while the staircase and dome beneath are wrecked. This could be due to a number of factors, like the speed at which Britannic sank or how much the Boat deck level of the grand staircase had flooded up until that point. Titanic will keep many of her mysteries - but the sinking of vessels like Baragoola demonstrates many of the impacts that water has on a sinking ship and can help us guess as to what might have happened on other famous liners through history, like Lusitania and the Empress of Ireland.
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What’s your favorite ship?
@@DannyDraws1912 The MS Johan van Oldenbarnevelt :)
@@OceanlinerDesigns cool mines. The Rms Titanic and Lusitania
@@DannyDraws1912 I love the Andrea Doria. That crazy bathroom with the painted mural inside its toilet...lol.😂 So wonderfully 1950's tacky but such a beautiful ship!
The message of this video seems to be that the parts of a ship that were not designed to be submerged respond badly to being submerged.
Right Stephen! Nothing from the lower-hull up, save for perhaps the very bow and stern of a ship, is designed to submerge. Water can do some crazy things - the video I did on Lusitania's encounter with a rogue wave has some photos of ships after they had their bridges and superstructures staved in by the weight of a wave!
And to think that much (not all) of that is still intact after over a century.
@@OceanlinerDesigns i just think the dome cover maybe got crushed from the second funnel im not sure
So you’re saying…that only *some* of the ship is supposed to be underwater? 🤔
@@PoisonousPen Ideally yes. But just the bottom part.
Some of the _Titanic_ survivors talked about the big thing that stayed with them even all those years later were the sounds. They said it was indescribable. The screams of the people still on the ship, anything that wasn't secured down falling and crashing through walls, the sounds of the ship creaking and groaning, the sounds of the ship breaking apart, it was truly horrific. This video just gives a small hint of what it must have been like. It's no wonder they talked about how even years later they would still wake up in the night reliving it.
Don't forget the silence that came afterwards. Eva Hart talked about the silence.
@@ErikAnkan73 Not to mention the likely terrifying sounds as the Titanic landed on the sea floor.
The sounds of the steel breaking apart while sinking
There was one survivor,Frank John William Goldsmith Jr., who would not go to baseball games because the sound of the crowds roaring during a homerun or other big event reminded him of the screaming of the people dying in the water after the ship sank.
@@BlitzWing-vk1zw could you actually hear that? Since it was so deep down
Cameron’s author friend Charles Pellegrino went into detail about the staircase in his 2001 book “Ghosts of the Titanic” - his theory was that the staircase as a whole was buoyant, tore out of the ship and floated upward - explaining why nothing was there and the dome structure gone. He further speculates that the floating parts of the staircase may have been refuge for survivors, but that it then drifted away from the search area.
I think the grand staircase did not float out of the dome on the surface. After all, the dome cover wasn't all made of glass like the dome. I think only small pieces of the wood floated out while the main bit of the broken A deck landing stayed trapped under the dome cover. When the ship was descending, I think the forces of the water ripped off the dome cover like how it made the forward mast collapse. If it's not that, then the plume of high pressure water behind the bow crushed the cover and all the grand staircase decks below it when the bow landed on the sea floor.
Should note that in his Titanic book Pellegrino has many offhand ideas and speculations about the sinking, but is not a technical expert in this field. His theories are a great read and intriguing, even after the more recent incident where his book and movie project about Hiroshima were canceled when it turned out parts of the “true story” had been invented by one of his sources.
Pellegrino is not exactly the go to source for accurate Titanic information. He has a lot of rumor, conjecture, etc.
When I was in the US Navy, I was part of an effort to monitor and build a sound library of sinking ships. (Okay, yes -- had to do with over the horizon targeting; as in, how do you know that you have sunk a ship when you shoot at it from a distance?) Long story... But basically there are all manner of sound signatures from a sinking vessel. There's the initial explosion in the case of a bomb, missile, torpedo. (Or the sound of an iceberg scraping the hull, per Titanic.) And fire makes noise. Then you have flow sounds as flooding moves through the ship -- kind of like the sound of squirting a hose inside a metal garbage can. Combine this with internal sounds of machinery that is still moving, such as boilers, turbines, gear-reduction systems, etc. until they spin down or seize up, which makes noise of its own. Add in water-hammer effects, as in banging and sloshing from back & forth movement (and variations on what's called "ullage," meaning partially empty spaces with sloshing water). Then you have really eerie sounds of steel twisting, buckling and tearing. Welds ripping. Rivets popping. Closed doors -- even "watertight doors" that are dogged shut -- bursting open with massive bangs, even popping off the hinges. And sealed compartments collapsing under water pressure, just sledge-hammed bangs. And flow resonances -- humming, sort of -- as the ship drops down through the water column. The resonances actually change frequency as the corpse of the hull drops through different layers, at different temps and salinities. And then you have impact with bottom, the sound of which depends on hard, sandy, mud, etc. There's the sound of the ship hitting, plus a measurable seismic event in the seafloor, often measurable far away via seismograph. And a massive swooshing sound as the hull pushes water and bottom material out of the way as it plows in. Add in bottom bounce of sound waves bouncing back from sea floor to surface, and reflecting back down from the surface (Snell's Law in physics). And then the sound of the ship breaking up during the impact, not unlike the sound of a car crash with all the twisted metal. Meanwhile, depending on the water column, there's "direct path" sound which is noise from the sinking ship, and that fades within the seawater in a ratio of distance-squared from the emitter. But there are also sounds that move via "convergence zones" in the ocean, such that you can hear noises many miles away; like dozens or multiple dozens. And then there are "deep sound channels" that can transmit the noise many hundreds or even thousands of miles away. All in all, a sinking ship is a noisy thing.
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Thank you for adding this info. I never thought of being able to catalogue the sounds of a sinking ship
Thanks for sharing
James Cameron talks about the grand staircase. They built an exact replica of it for the film using plans from Titanic. It was not attached to the ship but remained in place due to its weight and fitting to the superstructure. During filming when they submerged the set including the staircase, it broke free and floated. A major safety issue for the stunt team but Cameron realized that it was the reason there was no trace of it at the wreck. Being Oak it probably still is recognisable but where it is, that's the real question.
Yes, I heard that happened on set. It is a shame it didn't survive. It would of looked eerily beautiful.
@@kiyablaise I'm sure it would have rotted out right now though submerged in the water
@@mikekeeler6362 Yep
He was building a MOVIE prop, not an actual replica of the Grand Staircase. The prop floated out not the real staircase. There are remains of the staircase at the bottom of E deck. The THG guys cover this in great detail.
@@lacey457-z5eactually it was a replica and not a prop. They rebuilt 80% of the ship at 90% scale for the film, so lots of ways things sunk or floated would have been accurate to the actual sinking.
So it was not ‘a prop floated out not the actual staircase’ it WAS Cameron’s actual staircase. It floated off just like the real staircase did and at some point after Titanic settled on the ocean floor the broken timber and steel from the stairs settled at the bottom of E deck. But by the time they had the technology to search that deep into the wreck the wood had been eaten away into nothing, leaving just more twisted metal at the bottom of that deep hole where the staircase originally sat.
Listening to the audio of the Baragoola sinking gives me the chills. I'd never thought about it before. Sinking ships man, it's scary. Your tiny steel little island's death rattle. Imagine listening to that sound from a lifeboat, and then maybe throw in screams. What an awful experience for anyone to live through.
Absolutely right! There is so little audio recording of ships sinking - you can only imagine what that would sound like on a vessel the size of Lusitania or Titanic!
Not to mention the crashing sounds of items falling through the ship.
Yes! Listening to that audio, I realized that I've maybe never heard a real sinking. Movies of course, but not real life. It was harrowing.
The sound of titanic would of been 100x this
better than dying. Stop the negative attitude. They "LIVED" through it, and I think they can get over it
It’s crazy to think how all the destruction that happened that night was all linked to water pressure. The bridge, the funnels, and the entire grand stair case, and now that I think about it, it could have possibly influenced the break-up as-well. Amazing video, keep up the great work!
Breakup was primarily caused due to the stress of the weight of the water pulling the superstructure down.
@@Nephalem2002 the breakup was actually caused by the keel bending due to compression.. the breakup started at the bottom . As the bow sunk down the center of buoyancy shifted aft underneath the larger machinery spaces which were more hollow and open the bottom of the keel compressed upwards pushing her lower decks upwards the breakup stopped at the strength decks then it started breaking from the top down and stopped at the strength decks then finally the strength decks separated. . When they found the missing keel sections they found that on both ends where the 2 pieces were once joined together they had compression bends which shows the breakup started at the keel due to all of the ships buoyancy being shifted to one area of the keel that was not built to withstand that kind of buoyancy pressure
it did and also the engines the way that titanic was built there were jeaby engines in the back pulling the back down so while it was sinkinf theres wayer pulling the front down and engines pulling the back down and then evntually the ships structure cant handle it
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@@greatsteamreal who cares who asked?
I think what's really cool is that during the 1997 filming of Titanic, they accidently discovered what very well could have happened to the grand staircase. Most at that time thought it'd most likely just decayed, but on set when the water came rushing in, the staircase suddenly detached and started to float. They quickly stopped filming and aided actors to avoid any injury. But it answered the question of the vanished staircase.
So cool to hear you talk about the Baragoola! My dad had been a massive supporter of its restoration, eventually making digital art for the society to print on mugs, tshirts, posters, and for use on their website, to help with funding the restoration. We were both devastated to hear of its sinking, but are very happy to hear it being mentioned :)
Regarding the violent, estimated 35-40 MPH impact with the ocean floor, I figured that everything inside the Titanic would have been jarred loose and reduced to rubble. But the ROV footage from inside the wreck was surprising; lots of items like delicate chandeliers still hanging from ceilings, intact cabins with clocks still on dressers (which you would figure to have been tossed off on impact) the Turkish Bath all there, and the list goes on. I was surprised to still see wooden items inside the ship, as all wood on the outside, including the exposed staircase, was eaten away by the bacteria that is consuming the rest of the wreck. It's amazing how much is actually still there.
The expression "They don't build'em like they used to" comes to mind. It's hard to imagine everything wasn't jostled loose or smashed to smithereens, but the wrecks photos show it to be true. Maybe it really was just craftsmanship (combined with the lower decks being pretty-well flooded by the end) that preserved so much.
@@Unownshipper or...or....wait for it.... The ghosts from the recently deceased tidy up their rooms before realizing they had become ghost. Like mental conversation why is my clock on the floor that belongs on the mantle and why is my room flooded....oh wait I'm dead. Lol I'm high I'll see myself out now.
@@trickyfoxx6941 Hopefully not the maids or waiters. When their ticket gets punched, they ought to be able to say "that's it, no more cleaning up for me."
I expect many features like clocks on mantelpieces would have been bolted down - as they often are on ships. Obviously you don't want clocks and vases and ashtrays flying all over the place whenever you go through some rough sea.
Exactly that's just incredible, though we must remember that fragiles parts that were left intact inside the ship, mostly come from the bow section of which the actualy bow and front of up ship up until the first funnel mostly absored the impact with the sea floor. That's why the bow is so deeply imbedded into the sea floor, plus the crack in the ships body down below at where the bridge used to be. Even though Titanic would've been small compaired to modern cruise ships, we tend to forget how large the ship was and the impact that she could and did take.
I remember seeing an interview with Robert Ballard saying how he’d dreamed of sending an ROV down the Grand Staircase and was disappointed when he discovered it had been destroyed. Until the 1980‘s the deep ocean floors were believed to be biologically dead from lack of nutrients so all the wooden fittings would have been preserved.
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A possible alternative: the glass etc. was shattered by air pressure. The air is being displaced by the incoming water. You can see how violently water bubbles out of the hull of the sinking ferry at the same time you can hear the glass breaking.
Water pressure coming in would definitely mean air pressure coming out. That is all the huge spray seen blowing out like geysers in Cameron's film as the ship is upending.
Wood likes to float. I suppose the fact that wood likes to float and the pressure combined just ripped everything apart. The staircase I believe began to separate and raise up. Once submerged the dome and cover were gone allowing the broken up staircase to just float out of the massive hole. The bridge likely broke up like you said. Water smashes in the front of the bridge loosening the wood and making it break apart before she even splits.
That actually happened with the staircase built for the 1997 film when they flooded the set, constructed in a very similar manner to the staircase on the actual ship.
You are right sir. I believe it was in the documentary with Bill Paxton going down in the sub (ghosts of the abyss) that the grand staircase was gravity-set and as soon as the ship went under it would have been fighting to break free via the easiest route available.
There's also speculation that the wood didn't float up out of the dome, but rather out *back* through the corridors. Even still, wood floating doesn't really explain the metal frame under the steps being missing (which I want to say was where the speculation of it being pulled aft out of the ship came from, but I can't recall my source aside from it being a thread on the ET forums, so don't trust me on it)
Wood might like to float - up to a point, but if it always floated there wouldn't be thousands of wooden ships at the bottom of the ocean. Mary Rose, Vasa, (formerly) Batavia etc etc etc as well as ancient ships.
@@LandyVlad_Rides Those had to be solid meant for water. The staircase and bridge were not. The staircase was held in place by gravity once it flooded that staircase came apart. The bridge had to have smashed in from water pressure breaking up just a few feet underwater. Solid wood ships were well meant to be solid entirely where as metal hull ships needed a solid metal hull the wood was secured like it is in a house on metal hull ships.
in the making of features of Titanic, Cameron states a near accident happened while filming the grand staircase flooding scene. Though the set was fastened securely, the wood stairs detatched and started to float while water flooded with stunt extras were being filmed, not planned or expected. From that he figured that is what happened in real life, it just floated out the top after breaking off and violently scattered during decent
I'll be that's right. Even if the real staircase was more firmly secured in place than the film set replica, that just means that (by the time it reached a lower level of submersion in the sea) it would've smashed through the dome with greater force. It's no wonder the staircase looks like a giant cannonball blasted through it.
@@Garsons-oq4lh That'll probably never happen. Not just because of the resource and technological demands needed for such a thing, but also because the wreck itself is a gravesite and shouldn't be disturbed that way in my opinion.
@@Garsons-oq4lh Iirc the entire steel frame for the lowermost staircase is still there, but that’s all we have
Interesting that you mention the poor old Baragoola. I was a few months short of 9 years old when she made her last run in January, 1983. I remember her well in service in the few years of my life before that time. Baragoola had the problem of not having been out of the water and drydocked for nigh on 40 years. (I know she'd had her propellers removed at both ends, but I'm not sure how). Her hull was paper thin and patched with concrete in places. Sadly her sinking was only a matter of time. I know this has nothing to do with Titanic, it's just that despite Titanic's fame, it's a ship that no one alive today has ever seen afloat. Baragoola meant more to me than most Ocean Liners ever will.
Thanks otherwise for another interesting video. 🙂🚢
And yet she should of been saved and was close to it.
The Baragoola sinking is a damn shame. She looked like an alright little boat despite the rusty crusty hull. Woulda made for a hell of a tourist ferry like the ones you see in places like Washington DC or NYC, or even a floating museum/tourist attraction after a good refit, probably a Ship of Theseus level hull repair, and a fresh coat of paint.
@@lsswappedcessna I think the idea had been for many years, to try and get her operational again, but with Covid hitting the world and causing all sorts of problems, the ability to work on the ferry, along with necessary financial input from donations, obviously wasn't there. Some government assistance in the form of a large donation (say $1 Million or so) would have done wonders for the Society that owned her. Sadly though in Australia, both sides of politics are reluctant to help fund moving heritage, be it buses, trains, trams, ferries, old cars, tractors, or even a wheelbarrow! This is left to the owners to fund through whatever means they can. In the UK it is somewhat better as the Heritage Lottery Fund makes substantial contributions to a wide variety of heritage groups every year, providing a win-win-win situation for all concerned.
I had travelled on the Baragoola quite a number of times. I also used to travel past her often when boating on Sydney Harbour. What a tragic loss, it broke my heart.
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Interesting video Mike!
That's a shame about poor old Baragoola. It shows the long-term corrosive and erosive effects of a salt water environment are not to be underestimated. As the saying goes "Rust never sleeps."
A titanic surviver said while he was standing near the grand staircase dome, it broken with imploding sounds and the pressure tried to take him inside the hole which means it surely imploded due to the pressure. And also in google results they say the wheel house and bridge destroyed when titanic's first funnels fallen on to them
I’m not an expert at all, but the wheelhouse being destroyed by the funnel falling onto it makes more sense than total destruction by water pressure. Why (IMHO): the glass area is relatively big, the sides are completely open, and the volume of the wheelhouse is not to big either. This opens the possibility that water pressure inside and outside could level out very quickly, at which point destruction by implosion is unlikely.
My $0.02.
@@TheSoundsnake Most accounts state the funnel fell starboard. A few people say it was port. Either way, it's pretty much established the funnel didn't fall *forward* and crushed the bridge.
@@hazyhope._. I didn’t dive into that aspect, just saw someone mentioning in this thread that the funnel fell onto the wheelhouse.
Physics are simple: equal pressure, nothing gets crushed. I would think that the wheelhouse would fill quickly enough through all the holes (shattered windows and open sides) to equalize the pressure. But I don’t know at what speed the wheelhouse hit the water, the water entering through the front windows might as well have blown of the roof due to the air pressure building up.
The physics of pressure building up are behind most issues with blowing up windows and collapsing roof structures etc., always good to think through the various scenario’s and have a bit of an understanding how these forces act.
I’m not an eye witness, so anything reasonable is acceptable, and when the funnel fell sideways, it must have been pressure (water or even air). One should be able to calculate/estimate the minimum speed of hitting the water required to blow the wheelhouse apart, based on volume, open area (windows, sides) and construction. That would be nice!
That is I think the account of Colonel Archibald Gracie.
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I think your 2 cents is worth a few dollars! I always noticed the starboard bridge wing flattened in the wreckage. Tbe funnel definitely could have clipped the bridge and wrenched attached wing structures. If not this, the forces plunging down to the bottom would have washed it away.
It was documented that when James Cameron was filming the sinking scenes for his Titanic movie both crew and actors that were on the grand staircase were shocked to find it beginning to float. I would guess that the staircase in the actual ship was so large and heavy that it kept itself in place once built. So could they have possibly broken up and floated away during the trip to the ocean floor?
They accidentally recreated it. Wow
@@PelsckoPolesko isnt that amazing? it speaks to just how accurate the movie really was.
i think that likely. though id imagine it was more securely attached than a temporary movie set in expectation of having to weather heavy seas so stayed attached for longer than the movie recreation did. which, of course, would result in that much more damage when it finally let loose.
@@JACCO20082012 one thing i think the movie got wrong that would explain the bending of steel both ways in the double bottom is that after her back broke that let millions of gallons of water a huge new way of ingress and cause the area around the break to settle more quickly resulting in the remaining buoyancy in the stern causing it to them fold back upwards against the forward part of the ship until it was dragged under by the forward part. this would explain why all the bending and rending of the double bottom isnt only in 1 direction.
@@thurin84 More accurately:
The Double-bottom buckled inward, shoved up the boilers into the upper levels, the hull was effectively fucked at a much shallower angle, but the Superstructure held the ship together until it eventually was torn apart from the stress. Resulting in a "top-down" (that was actually a bottom-up) break, the superstructure and hull tears free, but the Double-Bottom section is still attached, only bent.
While still attached to the now-plunging bow, the Stern is pulled down by it, until it to eventually breaks off.
That explains everything much more cleanly, how the ship chunks ended up where they are, and that bending in two directions.
When the High Seas Fleet was scuttled, there was a group of school children being ferried around Scapa Flow, one of their memories was how LOUD it all was as several dozen warships sank in their midst.
If I remember correctly during the filming of the 1997 film when filing the flooding scene of the staircase the thing ripped from its mount and floated away. It was probably more solid and sturdy than the dome and while it'll have ripped apart, it'll have also floated away. I think there were reports of broken timber floating in the sea after the event as well.
The content you produce is simply exceptional. Another great video, sir.
You have such a great way of explaining things. The extra art and diagrams really help us understand the story. Good job, I'm going to check out your channel.
On another note: when you talked about the subs parking on the roof of the officer's quarters I got a sudden flashback to hearing that that was causing rapid deterioration of the structure. It would be an interesting companion video this one exploring how expeditions to the wreck have hastened it's destruction. I think I read something about expeditions being denied for this reason but that could also be attributed to stopping treasure hunters or trying to respect the dead.
Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20.
Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho.
Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!
Whoopee do. God doesn't exist - just a figment of ignorant superstitious people's imaginations. You can prattle on all you like to your fellow believers, but don't force it down everyone else's throats. I'll take my chances, thank you very much.
If you look at the ship sinking videos available here on UA-cam you can see what appears to be smoke pouring out of the last parts of the ship above water. This is usually dust being forced out in the rapidly escaping air as the ship sinks.
Even watching videos of sinkings for artificial reefs help teach us more about what goes on as a ship sinks.
As a Firefighter, I can tell you that you can strip a house of all siding and windows using a hose in no time flat.
The most accepted scenario is Cameron's theory, and there undeniable intense physics at play. But studying the wreck photos, I feel positive that the second funnel crashed into the skylight housing, parts of which are visible on the wreck, and the cause of bowing to the walls and collapse of the A deck roof.
Something else I've heard is that while they were filming "Titanic" in the very accurately built replica, the Grand Staircase began to float during the sinking sequences, having never been designed to resist anything other than gravity. This floating and breakup greatly endangered the actors, and resulted in the set staircase being rebuilt but anchored to the 'deck'.
If true, then likely the original Grand Staircase of the Titanic would have floated to the surface, likely in bits, and drifted quickly away.
Well done, thanks again.
From what I understand, there's two components to the Grand Staircase: The wooden panels, and the metal frame to support them. The wood would definitely float off, but the real mystery is what happened to the metal frame they were resting on.
I wish they had interviewed the survivors when they were much younger and not waited till they gotten older cuz we would've had a more vivid clear description on what really happened that night.
Can't wait for this! The fate of the grand staircase is something that interests me, as it is almost completely gone. Just thinking that such a grand piece of art could end up as a few rotten wooden beams and nails is already a shocking thought. Am looking forward to this!
-12 hours before premier
Another creator theorized that the in rush of water pressure when the dome imploded basically tore through the grand staircase and it’s remains flew up out of the hole as Titanic took her journey to the bottom
@@Engine33Truck theres another theory that states "the staircase with stood the sinking but when the water column descended upon the wreck it crushed the staircase"
You can go and see the replica from the Cameron film which is now on display in Belfast as part of the Titanic visitor attraction
According to James Cameron when the skylight collapse was filmed the massive inrush of water literally raised up the Grand Staircase set and broke it apart, something they never expected as the set was VERY solidly built to the same specifications as the original. Luckily no-one was injured. Cameron's opinion is what happened to the set is most likely what happened to the original.
Cameron's got an opinion on the Californian too, but this isn't the time or place. Let's just say Jim's not a "Lordite." ;)
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 I don't think the grand staircase itself would have floated OUT of the dome like quite a lot of people think, at most it would've just been destroyed and all the debris trapped under the dome cover.
Hey Mike, I'm a Sydney ferry enthusiast, and it was great to see you talk about Baragoola. It was a huge loss for all of us Sydney boat nerds, and her only remaining sister named North Head better last longer.
Along with TheModelBoatGuy's, your channel is my favourite on UA-cam. So much interesting information and you are a great narrator.
So, when the bridge was submerging/submerged, the walls could have popped and let a rush of water into the wheelhouse, then the officers quarters? The windows on the sides of the officer's quarters: would they have smashed as they were submerging? What about the ventilation inlets near the funnels? This video was very interesting! Thank you Mike!
Good points Thoji! The Officer's Quarters windows were brass-framed and photographs show that they were fairly thick, the style probably designed for use in more exposed parts of H&W ships likely to receive a battering from the ocean. They were also relatively compact; unlike the large, broad windows to the first class entrance and gymnasium. I'm not sure that they would have shattered; rather that the broken ones on the wreck today are the result of the heavy impact with the sea floor. Some were even forced open by this impact! The vents and intakes were also lightly built, and we know there were some extreme water pressure effects as 2nd Officer Lightoller was pinned to the grate of one at the foot of Number 1 funnel before fortunately being blasted free. The rule seems to be that the larger, or broader the surface of the object under pressure, the greater the forces acting upon it; so the relatively small vent intakes did not break up, while the large, broad surfaces of the staircase dome cover were unable to withstand the force of the water.
~Mie
@@OceanlinerDesigns As long as air has an escaperoute, the destruction will be less.
Most likely, all air escaped via the hole where the dome was.
Also big waves has a tendency to destroy steel and windows, assuming Harland knew this, and reinforced parts of the superstructure and front of the ship.
It's always nice when one content creator refers to other channels. Little did we know about hidden situations occurring in "Adventures with Purpose" behind the scenes.
I remember mythbusters tested the idea of getting sucked into a sinking ship and got it dead wrong
The effect on the titanic was similar to partially submerging an open soda bottle, anything near the hole will be sucked in very quickly
They tested it with an old fishing boat that didn't sink in the correct way to create a suction force, since the boat sunk at roughly the same speed it filled with water from holes in the hull, there was no suction
Titanic sink faster than it could fill with water, therefore, water flooded in from any entrance it could find, creating massive suction forces
In his documentary, James Cameron told of observing that his set of the stairwell, while flooded with water, developed massive buoyancy. This continued until the anchors broke and two stuntmen were trapped (uninjured). The set was apparently recreated relatively faithfully. It seems very likely that during the sinking process, the entire stairwell collapsed through the dome and cover due to the upward buoyancy of the wooden structure.
Well, I am facinated as to why, the other heavy woodwork, made solid, like the staircase, with the intricate colored glass pieces, is all still intact, like, a full 2 story wall, it seems like, in the submersible videos and photos.
But, I would LOVE to hear more about The Olympic, that is my favorite of the White Star Liners. She was the most beautiful, and she would still be with us, today, in all her glory, just think about it.....if idiots had not demolished her, in a shipyard as scrap. It just breaks my heart. That gorgeous ship could still be here, today, running historical voyages, or preserved like The Queen Mary. Just really hurts.
Good to hear you using the word ‘timber’ rather than what most simply call ‘wood’. Timber is cut and dressed wood that is carefully stacked for a number of years to allow ‘seasoning’ and controlled shrinkage to occur. In this way wood becomes timber which can be relied upon not to further shrink or distort when it is finally used for construction of furniture, ships decks, etc. etc.
Definitely as you said, the rooms that slowly flooded didn’t see as much damage as there wasn’t a huge pressure difference. The faster it sinks, the rooms haven’t filled up as fast as the water on the outsides and creates tremendous force.
I also learned on a Titanic documentary with James Cameron about hydraulic forces at play when the ship hit the ocean floor as the hull compressed that water has to go somewhere and it blasted the cargo hatches quite a distance away from the wreck then you’d have a water column that the ship displaced on its way down weighing thousands of tons coming down on top of the wreck and bending the aft section down and causing further damage to the officers quarters and such as well.
It’s really surprising that she stayed together as much as she did considering the physics of everything.
The sounds of that sinking are truely chilling
im more interested in britannic dome and grand staircase. is it still intact? you owuld think divers owuld have checked it out. pictures of britannic showed that althoguh most of the furnishing were gone since she was a hospital ship, the grand staircase railings were left.
Yah please do a video about it
Good question! Britannic's dome weather cover is intact, although the dome beneath is destroyed and rests in pieces at the bottom. The staircase seems to mostly be gone, and from limited photographs I have seen, resembles Titanic's in that it exists now as a jumbled pile of twisted steel footings and scaffolding.
@@OceanlinerDesigns i did more searching and their are dive pictures of the "cover" that went over the dome of the staircase which is still intact. (not sure if its forward or aft dome cover) but no o ne has taken a picture of the inside or go in because its apparently forbidden . u need permission from greek government AND the owner to get inside.
@@Garsons-oq4lh the entire dome? or is the frame and light still their? cant believe no one has checked after all this time
Great video with direct connection to a modern day example. Well done.
Thanks Paul!
Thank you from Memphis Tennessee. I've been enjoying your videos and decided I need to go ahead and subscribe. Thank you for all the time and effort and putting together your videos.
Thanks so much Silas!
Make sure whenever you watch 1997’s Titanic you have the historical audio commentary as there are a bunch of really neat tidbits and insights about the ship.
As always Mike, great video. You can tell you do your research to make these well made presentations. Keep up the awesome work you do!
I love everything about this video, your looks, the way you talk , the info 🤩🤩 this is perfect by all means, thank you so much for making good quality content
I relate. The audio IS the most haunting. It’s a violent, crushing sound. So foreboding.
As always well-done Mike! Thank you for all your efforts!
Water can be a terrifying beast. I have a family member who is a fisherman, and he’s told me stories of waves that were so powerful that they actually dented the steel hull of his boat. He showed me pictures of this and I was blown away.
Moral of the story: Don’t underestimate water.
I'm really not even into ships/boats, but this channel is just awesome. Editing, narration, topics. Great work! 👍👍
Finally one year after I asked Mike os doing a video about the dome
Better late than never? :)
Your videos are phenomenal and instructive. I have learned a lot about the tragedy of the Titanic. You have obviously done a lot of research and even though you are still a very young man, seem to be extremely knowledgable on the subject. Many thanks.
I am a big fan of your videos and may I say, of you yourself because you are very pleasing to the eye also.
You got this titanic topic in a bag g!!! Your accent really pulls it off!! You edit your own videos? it's epic! you do a great job! 🎉💯‼️😎
Pretty sure this was the first ever video from Mike i have ever watched
Such nostalgia
Even when they filmed the destruction of the dome in Titanic, right after the camera cuts out is when the staircase on the set broke off and floated up. It's probably why there are a couple pieces of Grand Staircase wood that survived floating, from forward or aft, as well as one of the lounge's carved panels from above a door (that one was likely right where the ship snapped, too).
It's interesting to look at the debris field, too, since the aft dome's iron frame is mostly in one piece there.
The same exact thing happened on James Cameron‘s set. The entire structure broke loose from the set and floated during the sinking filming.
I love that wrought iron and Victorian are my favorite ❤ I have literally been obsessed with this since childhood
I'm also a fan of adventures with purpose. Idk but that's how I found your channel. It was in my recommended
Just got home and what was waiting on the computer for me? A OD&I "Premiere" It;s really sad to see any ship sink at berth. As always thanks for the info and great narration. Good to see you again, thanks for your time and work....
Cheers mike, so glad you enjoyed it :)
Thank you for another very professional and informative video.
I have been binging on your channel! It is fascinating. I appreciate your content.
There's a photo out there purporting to show the very center portion of the aft grand staircase dome somewhere in the debris field. It's been published in at least one book.
Return to Titanic by Dr. Robert Ballard, published by National Geographic Books!
3:51 the 'F' bomb. We tend to have a vision of the passengers aboard Titanic of staid and politeness. But I'd love to think of at least one "What the f*@k!?" being introduced from Titanic's lifeboats during her sinking.
Did the F word exist yet? Because plastic didnt exist yet. That's a fact.
@@electrickrain The F word is already attested in the middle ages. So yes, of course it existed in 1912. But perhaps it wasn't used as much. But expletives were certainly used that night.
Another fantastic video Mike, absolutely love your work! Enjoying every single video! Big fan in Scotland! Keep them coming!
Thanks so much Paul, cheers from Australia!
Keep uploading!! Your videos are great!!
What an eerie, haunting sound.
100% agreed!
Amazing to see what power water can have over air filled spaces. Thanks.
Saw a comment on reddit saying people were likely pulled into the funnel uptake casing when they collapsed. Absolutely terrifying
Nice video again !!! A little comment though: there is no evidence that the bulkhead between boiler rooms #6 and #5 collapsed. For some engineer, it is very unlikely, and the testimonial that related the sudden inflow of water may have been instead caused by the collapse of a coal hold door (which was flooded). But as you said in another video, this is the kind of the numerous mysteries that the Titanic will keep forever,
Never mess with Delta P. Differential pressures can be insanely powerful and extremely dangerous.
I think its more the strength of the hull and superstructure being twisted and bent (hog and sag effect depending on the way a ship sinks), that will make the windows crack. I have experienced this when in drydock with ships I worked on. Windows are quite strong on ships, but if you twist and bend a ships metal structure, glass is still the weak point. And no ships are designed to handle the stress a sinking event causes on its structural integrity. I believe it was broken long before she went under water. Nice video though. A fan from Norway
I closed my eyes and listened to the ship sinking and it was terrifying. I was quite shaken from it. Those poor souls...What a horror to endure.
Great video Mike. I’m impressed with the whisky collection too!
Just speculating here I wouldn't be surprised if remnants of the Grand Staircase are miles away from the wreck. If they found pieces of the aft grand staircase dome it has to be out there in one part of land that hasn't been searched yet.
or at the bottom of the stair well
It was a great video well done
I’m late to watching this video , but I love your shirt,vest and tie combo here!!
Mike, keep up the good work. I find these videos highly fascinating.
There is an extra bit to JCs Titanic, They built the Grand Stair case from solid oak for the the movie. During filming it was ripped loose during a take and floating up becoming a real hazard. This I feel is good evidence that in combination with your video that the litter staircase also contributed to the covers demise.
Not all solid oak. The newels were oak plywood. I owned one of the salvaged prop newels for many years.
Great explanation
Never heard of baragoola until now thanks Mike 😊
it was discovered what happened to the staircase during filming as the staircase was built to exact specifications as the original on set it was actually captures in one of the deleted scenes the staircase was not bolted down so when the ship began to sink it eventually became buoyant and simply floated up and out of the ship james camron talked about this it was a very interesting finding that really no one had put together as being a problem and the set and the ship staircase were constructed in the same manner so they were both only held in place by gravity
During filming they had several levels of the grand staircase built for the flooding scene. When they were flooding it it actually started coming apart do to the buoyancy of the wood almost immediately.. now before you say well it’s just a movie set. Camron and his team built the set to pretty much the exact blueprints right down to the materials use on the real ship ( the only difference was it was slightly wider) it’s explained in the behind the scenes of the film.
Actually, the newels were plywood with molded plaster. I formerly owned one. Still, likely some bouyancy there until waterlogged.
the smokestack fell on it
thanks for the insight about the topic
You make a good argument, but two things that should be considered is 1. the TITANIC was a much bigger ship then the ship in your example; 2. the depth of TITANIC is FAR greater, meaning astronomically greater pressure as well. The second is considerably more significant, and, while it bolsters your point, both vessels cannot really be compared in magnitude. That being said, your arguments make sense. Also, parts of the staircase dome have been found on the bottom (though they are believed to be from the AFT Grand Staircase, in the area of the "missing piece" behind the 3rd funnel.)
Wow. Such a small ship yet chilling audio. Replace it with a full sized ocean liner alone in the atlantic...with 2200 onboard...Despair...
G-Day Mike! As your famous Baragoola ship sunk terrible, I say that was like the Empress of Ireland!
What a delightful detachable collar!
Amazing video. It is amazing to see someone actually dive in *drums crash* to the sinking of the Baragoola. She is an amazing vessel and when I was on one of the ferries there, I saw her and the South Steyne and I went off my head, I screamed out "There's South Steyne!!". Sad that she went and apparently she had been sinking for nearly a day very slowly and apparently the crew on the Cape Don noticed that it was going down and raised the alert. Next, her sister North Head or successor Queenscliff will hit the bottom, that's if we see North Head return to the seas. Listening to that video is haunting- a ship "dying" pretty much. Sad to see that she has been lost to time. I would've thought that the snapping may have been ropes. You should do a video specifically on Baragoola and her sister ships (Bingarra, Burra- Bra, Bellubera, Balgowah and Barrenjoey/North Head) in a world where they all had careers and all lived long careers. Brilliant video once again and very well done.
It's more likely that the in-rush of water that Barratt reported in boiler room No. 5 came from the inundated coal bunker door giving way rather than a bulkhead collapsing...
Thank you very much…..for the keyboard cat redux link. 🎉
how much i watch this information by titanic, how more i respect this ship and people who died there on 1912. and still today i love Titanic with all my heart
The central element of the grand staircase dome was found near the wreck. It is very likely that during the impact with the bottom of the ocean, the pressure of the water inside pushed the entire structure, destroying it in the process for the most part.
This was fascinating, thank you!
Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20.
Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho.
Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!
The RMS Laurentic had a grand staircase similar to that of the Olympic class ships, just less lavish - there's a photo easily findable on Google Images, it has the dome and all. The ship sank in World War I. I wonder if her grand staircase is still intact or not.
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James Cameron mentioned during an interview that when they were flooding the grand staircase for the movie, the wooden staircase broke loose from the floor and started to float. So he believes it broke up as it came lose and pieces floated away through the hole im the dome. There are pieces of the dome in the ocean floor which proves it broke off.
Cameron also built the staircase on the set to the same standard as the original, effectively creating a forensic experiment.
@@ShadowXII Though iirc it was actually a bit larger to better accommodate the cast.
thank you!
Great job with your post. I thought it was very interesting. Thank you
The fear of driving off a bridge kept me in cars with crank windows until last year when I was getting a new car, they only have like two trucks that still have manual windows. But I roll my window down before driving over any bridges 😅