To Headgear Or To Not Headgear? That Is The Question 🤔
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2021
- There are positives and negatives to headgear. Today we discuss both sides and I let you know if and when I utilize this "safety tool".
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I remember watching guys from other gyms hitting each other in sparring with everything they had, but when they watched us doing controlled sparring without headgear, they were like: Damn! Sparring with no headgear? These guys are taking unnecesary damage, very irresponsible
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I would never spar without headgear, good way to break your face and head
@@steve00alt70 stay home
It's a combat sport you're gonna take damage, sorry to break it to you
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I know you're on a different level than me when you remove your headgear to protect the other person instead.
😄Got to take care of your training buddies or it's solo training.
Been doing a lot of that over the last year. Definitely not as fun.
One of the only people that can getaway with saying "I don't wear protective gear for other people's safety" and not sound cocky. I 100% would want Gabriel to pull his kicks if I was sparring him and dropped my guard.
Clear and concise, very helpful all around. You genuinely make some of the best educational videos for fighters.
I have trained for over 30 years and I very rarely used the head gear, and now at 56, people still ask me why I don’t use head gear, and respond that my head gear is my guard, my gloves are constantly tight around my face and glued to my forehead. I almost lost my very first kickboxing amateur fight 30 years ago because of the head gear that was twisting on my head and I kept trying to adjust it and getting punched when I was doing so!
Same
I watched some of your videos after heading to your channel via reading your comment (Subbed too). Mad respect for how athletic/healthy you are & how hard you train at 57. That's how I want to be able to train when I'm in my 50s, which is why I'm an advocate for light sparring over heavy. I do Muay Thai & Boxing, when I'm at my Boxing gym I see too many young guys in sparring hitting heavy (the coach lets them take multiple heavy shots too). They're not thinking about 10-20 years or more from now, to me it's a waste to be able to defend yourself in your 20s - 30s but not be able to later in life because you're too damaged from bad sparring decisions. I'm selective with who I sparr & it's known I like tactical sparring so when I'm in my 50s like you one day I'm still able to train hard & defend myself.
Training for 30 years and gloves glued to forehead? You dont need your hands that high, just leaving your body even more open
@@user-qn6fw8fg4b lol
@@WAHB50YY guy going to some mc dojo
Really wanted the answer to this!!.
Thank You!✊💯
Same head gear. I use it most of the time just to protect my face, but I love sparring without headgear. I get caught about 3 times as often, but it's like Goku dropping his weighted gear when you take it off, because you learn to ride the shots and bait the shots you want so you can anticipate them correctly.
Amazing video and have seen MP using it. Appreciate the upload.
Great insight. Your videos are very enjoyable, thank you sir!
As I am getting back into sparring after 19 years layoff, I needed to see the if any updates to training for longevity. Thanks Gabriel for your view points and wise counsel.
Pretty good rational. I was just thinking about this topic too. Thanks
fantastic as always
yo you looking jacked in this vid coach, just worked 16 hours but I still gotta maintain that kinetic chain; shadowboxing to your vids, thanks for keeping me motivated !
This content is golden
I ditched head gear early on. I found my vision was obstructed far to much and as you said, I was getting tagged far more.
Gabriel talks really well
I'm not even interested in headgear and I just listened to the whole video
congrats on 29.9k subs
Head gear doesn't replace good headwork and footwork!
I'm glad you brought this topic up. It's been a very controversial issue in the boxing/kickboxing community. From my personal experience when I stopped using headgear 4 years ago I noticed that I received significantly less punches to the head. I feel is important educate younger martial artist in understanding that wearing headgear doesn't fully protect you.
Can you make a video on sparring and culture? Boxing sparring has always been over 50% while other striking sparring seems to be less intense.
The Thai’s do it right
@@NobleVagabond2552 Thais spar hard too, most spar light Thai rules but they box like Americans according to this channel
There exist this types of head gear that Kudô practitioners use, it has a acrilic transparent plate in front of your face to prevent cuts and break, but the head still take the demage just like yours,I never used it, but it seems very efficient in protecting during practice
The Kudo headgear is pretty nice. It's got the clear front that doesn't hinder your vison so much and keeps you from cuts and getting your nose smashed. It's heavy, so it also builds your neck muscles. That said, the con is your head gets twice the size. Also, you feel every hit in your chin, sooo ;) In about 5 years of Kudo, my impression is that the headgear is mostly used for exams and competition (if you've felt a Kudo glove, you'd know why). Also in harder sparring, but once you're wearing boxing gloves, the gear comes off. But that could just be my impression. Generally, it has good pros and some cons, but if you're using paperthin gloves, better have it on. Plus, it's bulky enough that, if you learn to slip punches with it, 1. You are a proud owner of a bull's neck 2. You'll be untouchable, because your head is halved without it. Of they can't touch your big head, no way are they punching it that much smaller :D
@@alexandermilenov818 hey thanks for this, i always wondered how these would be.
@@erikbakker1639 You're welcome! :)
Hey Gabriel since you mentioned how Buakaw was when you trained with him could you make a video about training burn out? I think it would help people train better and love what they do.
Same here I only use it now for tough boxing rounds to avoid headbutts while infighting.
Totally agree 👊🙏Headgear in muay Thai is really bad as can't see kicks comming to head. Punching and boxing not too bad but can spin and stop you seeing shots comming. Great video.
This is very well explained. I think headgear for juniors is a good idea because it will help win over children and parents to getting involved. They stop the cuts and bruising and that is all! Some shipping companies recommend about 3 inches of bubble wrap around fragile items. This protects against shock/ g-forces. Boxing headgear does not have 3 inches of bubble wrap & the gloves are not made of 3 inches of bubble wrap either! The sturdy cardboard box helps protect against crushing.
I won't disagree with your advice, but it's important to understand that equal impulse is not the same as equal damage. If you double the duration of impact, it halves the rate of acceleration, which is easier on your brain. The change in acceleration, the jerk, is also less abrupt, which makes it easier for the muscles of the neck to prevent the head from moving. Also, the material being used in the headgear will reduce the elasticity, which will actually reduce the impulse. As the head begins to move during impact, some of the energy in the fist won't transfer. All together, this is less damaging on a per-strike basis.
On the down side, the increased duration also means there is more time for the striker to follow through and apply additional force. In effect, the acceleration remains less, just not reduced as much, and the impulse could actually increase slightly. In competition, where you follow through with the strikes, this negates some of the protective advantage of the headgear. In sparring, when you aren't going all out, you enjoy more benefit. Another factor to consider is what type of gloves are being used. The smaller the gloves, the more significant the benefit of headgear.
Again, I'm speaking on a per-strike basis, so whether getting hit more offsets the benefit of the headgear, I don't feel qualified to say. But I will say that the AIBA study raises issues of conflict of interest. They are interested in whatever will make the sport more popular with fans, and in such cases it is easy to tailor a study to justify a decision. I would also be wary of drawing too many conclusions from that study which may not apply to sparring. For instance, while they showed an decrease of concussions, how many of those were caused by being braver, such as 'accidental' headbutts and being willing to take more hits because of better protection. These are changes to decision making, not a test of the gear itself. And how significant is the occurrence of these concussions compared to decreasing the severity of the worst knockouts, or the repetitive, sub-concussive blows from training?
The point is, these are questions very important to the medical community, but are either completely outside the scope of that study or are purposely avoided to support a business interest.
Slow and smooth sparring is how I train. Never used headgear. Where I train, we use 16oz gloves, shock pad, and thick leg protection.
I'm quite surprised that you didn't touch at all on the fact that several studies have concluded concussions to actually get worse with headgear on. Not only because of the reasons you mentioned (like restricted vision and your head becoming a larger target), but also because it acts as what the researches referred to as a "reverberation cage". It can essentially increase the amount of thudding, low end bass wave type of *~boom~* that your brain experiences. On top of that, it also makes your head a considerable amount heavier, which makes in harder for your neck to support that weight and to resist against the whiplash effect when you get hit. Just some extra food for thought. Loving the content, man. New subscriber 👍
Good video. I’m a subscriber
Great video, it also makes me a happy owner of Winning gears seeing how well yours held up for 10+ years =) For technical light sparring in boxing I personally love to wear no headgear so I could experiment more with head/waist movement while not having to worry about taking bombs to the head if I made any mistakes, and of course, having full peripheral vision is always great for any reactive movements. When we decide to go a bit harder, we would then use open-faced competition style headgear at least to reduce cuts/bruises, damage from headbutts or the fear of getting our ear drums popped haha. Cheers!
Exactly man! The headgear is for cuts and the like!!
What do you guys think about headgear?
Do you use one?
Depends on my sparring partner if he is more skilled than me I will wear it to keep my face from scars.
I do hard sparring often in boxing. I have a good defense I don't get hurt so often even I use classic headgear from boonsport all the time, keep me safe I guess
Only for taekwondo because it's required. Luckily most in TKD train for contact at max extension so the impacts are pretty light.
Sometimes with MMA sparring I use the Venum wrestling headgear (soft) to prevent cauliflower. Doesnt reduce my vision and also doesnt irritate my partners in comparrison to the plastic wrestling headgear.
I've experienced the pros and cons. Not wearing headgear I took a kick to the head that resulted in a goose egg that would not have happened if I had been wearing protection. Wearing headgear I have taken punches to the head that I didn't see coming (hook) that snapped my head around and I felt concussed afterward from the brain being shaken, no bruising to the face or even sore. Overall I think I will continue to wear headgear.
I would just use it to protect my eardrums. Got caught with a questionmark Kick and had to see the doc.
Yeah but you gotta get the right ones. If they have just a hole for the ears, the pressure of a hook can rip your ears aswell. Some have like bars or even grooves so the air can move in other directions than just into your ear
Would you recommend any specific headgear for that purpose?
Personally I've always worn headgear in the martial art I started in because everyone else wears it. Since joining a gym that teaches K1 I haven't been wearing it because nobody else does. I feel the environment influences it and also how controlled the sparring is in the gym too.
I like to use the headgear with the open face. The headgear that amateurs boxers used to wear around 5 years ago. I like that headgear because I can see better and I can't head but anyone. I don't like other headgear that protects your face as I can't see well
It also depends on your fighting style, specially in boxing. For inside fighter that will bob/weave a lot and go "under" the opponent, you often fly blind when you need to keep your chin down while looking upwards. A tall outside striker wont have the same problem for example. One of the most open light headgear, are the ones they use in TKD, but after every strike it needs readjustment. But it might be worth it for some, when light friendly parring.
I am surprised you never mentioned cauliflower ears. That is the main reason I wear head gear when doing higher contact sparring.
Interesting. I've never thought about cauliflower ears being a concern in boxing/kickboxing.
You don't really see many pro boxers with that issue. Although it can certainly happen. My buddy got them a bit (but he got hit more than the rest of my training group).
Thanks
Headgear is mandatory in my kickboxing gym. I prefer no headgear, so I just bought and open faced, light headgear. Barely noticing it, works fine for me that way!
I never really wore one before but I'm about to get one to use. I'm gonna buy the Winning FG2900 cheek guard without the bar, you have the Winning FG5000 with the bar. I want the Fly Superbar but I think the bar will be bad for kickboxing sparring.
Check out the Fly Superbar. It's sleeker, slimmer and had great protection
Vaseline up before you spar you will get less cut's and bruises hands down. Great video.
You should check out Fairtex's HG14 head guard
great video Gabriel. thanks so much. the winning headgear looks good because i really want to protect my nose but the i tilt my head down when i box and i noticed when you tilted you head down with the headgear on, it looked like you couldn't really see. is that the case? or did it just seem that way to me. please let me know and thanks again :)
Great Headgear, I put the winning fg2900 above for its ability to protect very well and not havs a bar. However when people complain about the price, a medical bill is way expensive, the time you take off & just generally your health is valuable.
Look at the fly superbar headgear,much more visibility
@@JamesCrow88 I have the fly it's horrible, the foam is too dense. The bar is not adjustable and even though it's light and good proportions and visibility, the foam is so dense it's not reducing ANY damage. You're getting hit more dude to the bar being so far away too. TLDR: If the foam was softer it would be perfect, also adjustable bar.
I do a style combination of karate / kickboxing. What about the headgear with a plexiglass facial shield? Not perfect, but you can see a little better. I use headgear for harder sparring, not for lighter.
Hi Gabriel! Have you ever tried TOP TEN Headguards for kickboxing?? Could you give them a try a share your opinion with us in a video??
I have trained at some pretty sub optimal clubs where there has been hard flooring. We wore head gear just incase we impacted the floor after a slip or trip. The floor often got slippy with sweat and you could hit the deck pretty hard.
Sounds like the gym I first started training in.
I got clocked with a not so bad hook 5 months ago and I'm fairly sure I got concussed from it. The scary thing was it wasn't even that hard. Just hard enough. I think headgear is annoying but super important.
Thing is you can still get concussed with headgear. They removed it from the olympics and I believe studies showed it just caused fighters to get him more.
But I still wear it for nose and cut protection.
I hope your concussion recovery went well and you are 100%.
British medicine sports journal did an experiment with aiba approved headgear, showed that they reduced force and head acceleration almost by half. It’s most beneficial with medium intensity sparring where concussive shots with non headgear become non-concussive with headgear. not that beneficial with hard sparring or faster punches which coincides with its removal in tourney.
my gym requires headgear for sparring, mostly for avoiding cuts. but I dislike wearing it due to vision issues. I already have bad depth perception and wearing headgear negatively impacts my vision more. I get hit less without headgear.
At the gym I was training at there was no restriction on whether to use headgear or not. Personally, I prefer no headgear, can see and move freely without any doubts in the back of my mind. However, the gym made changes and headgear is mandatory now. Honestly, it wasn't a big deal because I used a Winning FG-2900 headgear. It was lighter and had less padding which made it bearable compared to those bulky headgears that the other members had. If I were to choose when to put on headgear or not it would be only when I have a competition coming up to reduce swelling, bruises cut just to ensure I can maximize my training days.
I also recommend the TOP TEN headgear whether you compete or just train. Not bulky and has an open face.
Thanks for the info. I spar with my roommate and we have the no-nose type but this is making me think of buying the noseguard style. PS. the 80's softcore porn music in the background isn't getting you any more subs and likes...or IS it!?!?
I started to use a Top Ten FIGHT head gear a few months ago...don´t ask me why, but I decided to use it. It is the one that WAKO uses for their matches, it has been a good purchase for me. Not too bulky, but not to light, just in the middle. Doesn´t have the nose protection like you said, but it gives me the protection that I need, plus I can use it on MMA and Kickboxing sparring.
The down side is that when you spar with someone who is either a shitty partner or someone who doesn´t pull their strikes go hard because "you have head gear and don´t feel the strikes", which is not true at all!! Plus I am accustomed not to use head gear, what is more, the first time I used one was on a Sanshou fight...and at times I forget that I have it xD
I do only boxing and I use a facesaver, I don't rely on it because I work on defense. I use a facesaver because I don't want a broken nose or cuts on the face .
I recently enrolled my sons in karate here in Japan. My concern is my boys and if i should buy them sparring helmets or not. We are beginners.
Seeing every pro boxer ever use headgear makes me think that they are on to something, so I use it, also studies show that cuts and bruises to the face increase significantly when not using headgear, and all the data on concussions is not backed up by controlled studies, but just anecdotal, which most scientists think is because of changes in behavior, like people go harder when using headgear. So maybe the best is to have controlled sparring with headgear for boxing.
Ohh yeah check out Onyx headgear developed by coach Trevor Whitman. He's got some interesting stuff and talks about it on the Joe Rogan Show.
I have one but i hate it.
It goes around my chin and sometimes i feel dizzy after taking shots that wouldn't have an impact without the headgear.
I would like to have a headgear just around my skull to protect brain damage but doesn't reduce sight or transfers the impact to my chin.
People that still need to find a girl to found a family probably care more about their face than i do.
Someone just died not long ago in a kickboxing match dude got kicked on the left side of his head with his headgear on I believe it was on the left back side of his head but one kick dude died like hours later or less prob
Wish I could buy stock in this channel
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The headgear we have currently definatelly need improvement, I'm not telling people to fght with biker helmets or riot helms, but things like acrilic visor and layered padding could be improvements...
What do you think about rival products? I'm thinking of buying their face saver
What are your thoughts on using an open faced headgear or even just ear protection after experiencing a ruptured eardrum? Would wrestling style ear guards be just as beneficial as open faced headgear?
Omg 😳 this explains why I couldn’t understand how I ate a head kick in my first amateur Muay Thai fight! I never wore headgear in sparring (only 2-3 times in my entire life but that was in boxing) but my opponent forced us to wear them. I was descent at evading & blocking head kicks, but I just honestly didn’t see it coming that day…..now I understand why
How do you feel about the Karate headgear with the plastic face covering? It seems like it would be way better for protecting your nose, but I don't see fighters using it ever so there has to be a reason beyond brain damage...
I think fly headgear its better,more visibility,and premium headgears reduce the impact in 30%
Hi guys are there any reccomendations to any helmets that do NOT restrict vision? Most smoker fights require them but a helmet i used restricted my sight so much that i got a concussion from a kick that i didnt see.thx guys!
I don’t like the bar or cheek protection on the headgear. I use the Top 10 style they use to use in Olympic boxing. Just my personal choice
Pretty decent.. it's the best headgear on the business (Winning Japan)
They have some stellar gear no doubt. A little expensive but you get what you pay for.
Weekend warrior here ✋🏻. First time I spar I thought headgear and gloves will make everything more pillowy. I was in for a rude awakening. My opponent has about 10-15kgs on me, and has hands of stone. I ate a straight, and will never forget the ringing in my ears. 😂😂
Just got some headgear and other things that I ordered online. I got a light blue Sanabul Headgear on Amazon just a few days bacc!! I also got 12 oz boxing gloves from Venum, then combat sports international electric blue 4 oz. MMA gloves, a $60 cup and strap, M.M.A. Shorts, Boxing Shorts, RingSide Hand-Wraps, and a Mouthguard.
I still need boxing shoes, 7 oz. Sparring Gloves, and Shin Guards. Anything else? Or should that be enough to get started at a gym.
Beateful winning head gear
I got a massive head and its mostly bone so i wear headgear to protect the other guys hands
I remember buying a winning headgear but it was too small. When my sparring partner connect a straight, the bar hit my nose so hard that I start bleeding lmao. So folks, buy the right size XD
please explain how padded cushioning wouldn't absorb energy from a punch?
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I don't wear headgear, I'm selective with who I sparr & only do tactical sparring so there's no reason for me to use it when I'm not being hit hard enough to cause bruising/cuts 9/10 times. I also fight more smart/defensively trying to outmaneuver/trick/trap/counter over brawling, so I'm not usually taking lots of shots. The headgear only increases chances of shots landing on me & blocks my vision more (makes gap between guard wider too). In my experience when I put on headgear, who I'm sparring (subconsciously or by ignorance) hits more & harder even if they're not wearing headgear lol. Sometimes me just putting on headgear will make them do the same & the sparring's harder. Because of this It's rare I've worn headgear & since early 2020 decided to not wear any again going forward.
I agree with not wearing headgear all the time, awkward and hard to see. I also agree that the headgear that strictly protects the head and temples is absolutely pointless...I never understood the concept
i use headgear in boxing because i constantly clash heads with my friend any way to help that from happening
thoughts about headgear with cage instead of bar?
For the nose
I feel like when people see you have head gear on they think they can throw 100%.
Definite disadvantage. You put it on for extra protection and end up getting hurt because fools are throwing close to full power. 😟
What about the Kudo headguard?
What about wearing the "kudo" head gear ?
100%. I drew the same conclusions 30 years ago. In addition to all of the stuff you mentioned, it also makes your head heavier. When the difference between slipping a punch and getting hit is measured in milliseconds, having to move more mass is a huge deal.
hey guys i want to ask about can i use mma head gear in boxing session...And I want to buy Hayabusa's MMA head gear(like this different with boxing glove there is more extra protect on chin,tighter and heavy a litle bit)So do you guys think can i use the mma head gear for mma and also boxing(training/spparing)
What about using karate helmets with plastic face protection?
If the study was truly that conclusive then the Olympics wouldve gotten rid of headgear for women too but they still have to wear it. They dont know.
Try using kudo headgear
I have a question, if i don't wear headgear is easier for me to fight ,can i get cornflower ears with boxing?
So, why not use basketball type protection face mask instead of headgear than?
Would you use normal winning head gear?
Head gear if you don't want cuts, broken nose, or fight cancelled. The blunt force trauma of punches is still going to happen with the headgear.
Does it protect the jaw
I never used It, but idk If I should tbh, I almost never get hit specialy hard só never really cared
Having been a classical pianist, I'm sure you know that it's 'Yea or Nay'.....
I found I box better without headgear
Nay, i took shots im not supposed to take, and i have a small nose anyway.
I’ll always wear a full face bar head gear not to protect my head from concussion but to protect my face from cuts, bruises, black eyes and getting a broken nose I’ve got a job so I don’t think it’s very professional If I turn up to my day job with bruises, cuts and a broken nose.
Look up "kudo daido juku" sparring/tournament, it is a form of karate that incorporates both striking & grappling like mma, and it requires a headgear with wide angle clear shield, like a lite version of astronaut helmet. 👨🚀👨🚀👨🚀👨🚀👨🚀. also mma glove instead of boxing glove.
I was wearing headgear when I got my nose broke. Now i can't smell rofl.
I hope they put some technology from motorcycle helmets and incorporate it into the boxing headgear. Yet they keep helmets for womens olympic boxing.....