Why Nobody Wants This Part of Europe

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  • @LanternOfLiberty
    @LanternOfLiberty 2 роки тому +7018

    "- There's a place where you can just build a new country"
    "- Cool, where is it?"
    "- Between Serbia and Croatia"
    "- Yeah, I'm good"

    • @jasonbelstone3427
      @jasonbelstone3427 2 роки тому +487

      Answers a lot of questions pretty fast, really.

    • @utubrGaming
      @utubrGaming 2 роки тому +258

      Good news: It's unpopulated, meaning you don't have to remove people there to claim it as your own.
      Bad news: It's unpopulated, meaning you can't experience the classic Balkan tradition of removing people there to claim it as your own.

    • @sevegarza
      @sevegarza 2 роки тому +43

      It was me who made the like count go from 200 likes to 201 likes. Sorry...

    • @LordKhuzdul
      @LordKhuzdul 2 роки тому +79

      Bir Tawil suddenly sounds a lot more appealing, hmm?

    • @Animator10107
      @Animator10107 2 роки тому +34

      @@utubrGaming good news: if you bring your family,incest time
      Bad news: must populate your own country

  • @sackofclams953
    @sackofclams953 2 роки тому +5465

    Defending an area and preventing people from entering its borders is literally the definition of ruling/ claiming that land. Seems to me Croatia has claimed it whether they acknowledge it or not.

    • @vibessynthesis6837
      @vibessynthesis6837 2 роки тому +488

      Tsundere Croatia, lol

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip 2 роки тому +201

      It's also arguably Serbian territory that Croatia is occupying, and is safeguarding while trying to hand it back.

    • @User31129
      @User31129 2 роки тому +158

      Serbia is like "Yeah but they don't know that we know that they know!"

    • @danielstowe2838
      @danielstowe2838 2 роки тому +26

      Sounds like I rule my back yard from my neighbor lol 😂

    • @Nightraven26
      @Nightraven26 2 роки тому +31

      @@doujinflip but Serbia doesn’t want it though…

  • @twentytwo138
    @twentytwo138 Рік тому +73

    The dispute in a nutshell:
    Serbia: ''Take this part!''
    Croatia: ''I don't want just this part!''
    Serbia: ''Take this part!''
    Croatia: ''I don't want just this part!''
    Serbia: ''Take this part!''
    Croatia: ''I don't want just this part!''
    Czech: ''Can i take it?''
    Serbia: ''NO!''
    Croatia: ''NO!''
    Serbia: ''Take this part!''
    Croatia: ''I don't want just this part!''
    Serbia: ''Take this part!''
    Croatia: ''I don't want just this part!''

    • @noctusfury6918
      @noctusfury6918 5 місяців тому +8

      Third Party, tentatively raises hand: "Can I have it?"
      Croatia and Serbia: NO!!!

    • @edge21str
      @edge21str 3 місяці тому +1

      Almost, Serbia said "idc"

  • @Fatalfaktum
    @Fatalfaktum Рік тому +185

    There are only two fair options:
    1. Just cut it in half
    2. Like any river boarder in any other country: make the borders based on the current state of the river and measure it every year

    • @Trontotario
      @Trontotario Рік тому +3

      But not all rivers stay the same, just say by example, the river changes deeper into the other countries territory, does it mean they still have to follow the course?

    • @billburrcorner2727
      @billburrcorner2727 Рік тому +22

      @@Trontotario The river is a sovereign nation with right to self determination. Let it decide

    • @Trontotario
      @Trontotario Рік тому +1

      @@billburrcorner2727 your right, Serbia does own liberland.

    • @taxevader7613
      @taxevader7613 Рік тому

      no its the free land of liberland

    • @Trontotario
      @Trontotario Рік тому

      @@taxevader7613 IT IS RIGHTFULLY SERBIA

  • @antoniopavlovic2952
    @antoniopavlovic2952 2 роки тому +7818

    I actually live in Osijek, Croatia, a town really close to this piece of land, like 30km southwest. I actually never knew of this!

    • @magenlin
      @magenlin 2 роки тому +746

      Go plant a flag claim it for all of I'm on my way

    • @dejanmatijasko8575
      @dejanmatijasko8575 2 роки тому +182

      Također iz Osijeka, ni ja nisam znao! Pozz!

    • @sirnubless
      @sirnubless 2 роки тому +13

      @@dejanmatijasko8575 Q1àaàq1Q

    • @jukicdalibor
      @jukicdalibor 2 роки тому +34

      This is actually in Baranja region of Croatia.

    • @antoniopavlovic2952
      @antoniopavlovic2952 2 роки тому +37

      @Sam it's Croatian military that's monitoring the lands, that's what RLL said. Didn't know anything of it though, because it really is a swamp land and nobody really cares I guess.

  • @ShortHax
    @ShortHax 2 роки тому +5722

    “There we are, learn to live with it”
    - A mustachioed British man drawing a straight line on a map

    • @humppi.2304
      @humppi.2304 2 роки тому +332

      "This thing will absolutely implode after we leave but by then we've already left the place so it doesn't matter"

    • @youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687
      @youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687 2 роки тому +83

      the British will never let a country history that doesn’t have them being involved

    • @sapphire5475
      @sapphire5475 2 роки тому +6

      I am sad today I didn't got a single subscriber😭😭......... ...............

    • @humppi.2304
      @humppi.2304 2 роки тому +123

      @@sapphire5475 damn rip bozo

    • @LeoDas688
      @LeoDas688 2 роки тому +118

      *That is what happens when you let an island draw border*

  • @TheSykoRC
    @TheSykoRC Рік тому +125

    the map shown at 3:06 shows a part of the modern Landkreis Dillingen, Schwaben (Germany). The city Dilingen is located at the danube river, but has nothing to do with croatia or serbia. My first appartment when I moved out of my mothers flat was in Dillingen. I worked for 6 years in the local court house (Landratsamt) there.

    • @Ashmodai
      @Ashmodai Рік тому +9

      I noticed this immediately as well... still working in Dillingen... what a coincidence! :D

    • @Hello7488to
      @Hello7488to Рік тому +1

      Hi

    • @paulchen187a
      @paulchen187a Місяць тому +1

      Grüße aus Dillingen 😊

  • @AI_Image_Master
    @AI_Image_Master 2 роки тому +13

    Similar thing in NYC. A whole bunch of years ago the redirected a small part of the Harlem River(not really a river) and cut out a tiny tip of Manhattan. It is now attached to the Bronx as the old part of the river was filled in. It is still legally part of Manhattan. It is called Marble Hill.

  • @historywithhilbert146
    @historywithhilbert146 2 роки тому +1182

    You'd have to be mad to willing go and live on top of a mountain ~ a Dutchman.

    • @PakBallandSami
      @PakBallandSami 2 роки тому +23

      love your videos hilbert

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146 2 роки тому +22

      @@PakBallandSami Cheers man!

    • @BurnBird1
      @BurnBird1 2 роки тому +14

      I used to like your videos before you collaborated with an *actual* racist who supports eugenics, but that's just me.

    • @PakBallandSami
      @PakBallandSami 2 роки тому +10

      @@BurnBird1 i don't think that mr z is a racist he might have some questionable takes but nothing to bad

    • @BurnBird1
      @BurnBird1 2 роки тому +14

      @@PakBallandSami He literally defends eugenics. Eugenics. Not to mention that he believes in biological races, IE scientific racism/race realism.

  • @richardaubrecht2822
    @richardaubrecht2822 2 роки тому +1742

    2:48 Serbia was NOT part of Austria-Hungary as is shown in the map. This area lies on the border of Bačka, small region that was in 1918 split between Hungary and Serbia. Because of this now it's one side of the river Croatian and the other Serbian.
    Edit: on the map, there is a complete Serbia in its current borders shown as being part of A-U. Simply nonsense.

    • @usefulhumvn
      @usefulhumvn 2 роки тому +276

      these types of channels never really show fully correct historical maps anyway

    • @doctor_alfa
      @doctor_alfa 2 роки тому +57

      @@usefulhumvn normally the maps of this channel are mostly correct, but you must be an expert

    • @SuperCROivan
      @SuperCROivan 2 роки тому +93

      Just wanted to check if somebody pointed that out. Croatia and Serbian werent united for centuries (in austro - hungary ) but a cenutry(in yugoslavia).

    • @ararune3734
      @ararune3734 2 роки тому +55

      Neither was Vojvodina a part of Serbia yet here we are, it's shown as Serbia.

    • @tearsintherain6311
      @tearsintherain6311 2 роки тому +12

      Oh my god who tje hell cares

  • @smti1985
    @smti1985 Рік тому +18

    Also a nice idea, saying "A river is our boundary" and then manipulate the river, that it flows through your nieghbour "Now your land belongs to us".

    • @lena-trajkovic17
      @lena-trajkovic17 Рік тому +5

      Neither croats or serbians modified the river. The austrians did. So this claim makes no sense

    • @smti1985
      @smti1985 Рік тому +4

      @@lena-trajkovic17 Never said that the claim makes sense. Many wars went for little reasons or senseless reasons.

    • @StarLord1206
      @StarLord1206 Рік тому

      @@smti1985 there was never a war regarding this border issue nor will there be one lol

  • @justaregulardude9243
    @justaregulardude9243 Рік тому +12

    "which means the British are for once not to blame" As a brit I am very relived.

  • @bartoszstepien8240
    @bartoszstepien8240 2 роки тому +490

    2:15 Ah yes, starting a new country in the Balkans. What could go wrong!

    • @deraustor2529
      @deraustor2529 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah that would be cook

    • @shinkirou3026
      @shinkirou3026 2 роки тому +1

      Lmao

    • @ninabeeyogi
      @ninabeeyogi 2 роки тому +4

      🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Sending Love from Croatia 😍

    • @NBGD22
      @NBGD22 2 роки тому +7

      We have to fuck up world and unite Balkan

    • @charmerci
      @charmerci 2 роки тому +9

      It'll be great! Hold my beer and watch me try!

  • @matra21
    @matra21 2 роки тому +1992

    Someone mentioned it here in the comments, that the territories on the eastern side of the Danube are de facto controlled by Serbia, and similarly, the territories on the western side are in fact controlled by Croatia.
    I can confirm this is true as a foreigner, because I was lucky enough to spend a few weeks in Kupusina, Serbia. While there, we used a small backroad a few times to go from Kupusina to Apatin, which is the neighbouring city on the shore of the Danube (really nice city btw). This small backroad cuts right across one of those weirdly shaped bits of land, that Croatia claims on the eastern side of the Danube. (I can give you the coordinates: 45°42'37.3"N 18°55'00.0"E
    ).
    I went there knowing about this situation and was surprised that there was no official indication or whatever to tell us that we entered Croatia. I even remember seeing some farmers on their tractors doing their thing on what is supposed to be some Croatian land, but I highly doubt that they would pay their taxes to Croatia... Then, I asked the locals about the situation and they didn't really know what I was on about, until I showed them on Google Maps, what I meant. Then they went on to explain how much of a sh*tfest there was during the yugoslav wars in the 90s, and especially how horrendous it was for the people of Apatin.
    Oh and one more thing. We also went on a little walk starting from Kupusina and we wandered into some forest and got to a place called Štuka čarda. If you look closely on the map, it's supposed to be in Croatia, but as you can guess, there was no border control in the middle of the forest or whatever. So yeah, I can confidently say that the de facto border between the two countries is the main stream of the Danube.
    The only thing indicating that we were near Croatia, is that sometimes my phone would switch to the croatian network, but that's it.

    • @mdza
      @mdza 2 роки тому +169

      As a guy who lived almost my whole life in Subotica, northern Serbia, I can confirm your comment. It de facto is Serbia

    • @Daniel-sh3yn
      @Daniel-sh3yn 2 роки тому +73

      This guy just wrote a full essay

    • @matra21
      @matra21 2 роки тому +199

      @@Daniel-sh3yn yea kinda, I'm just passionate about the topic and simply took the opportunity to practise my writing skills in English

    • @LOUNGELIQ
      @LOUNGELIQ 2 роки тому +30

      I don't think the people of Vukovar would agree with their neighbors on the other side of the river. How was horrendous it was for the people of Apatin you should have asked them? There was no war in Apatin and Vojvodina, the war was in Croatia, on the other side of the Danube.

    • @Daniel-sh3yn
      @Daniel-sh3yn 2 роки тому +49

      @@matra21 well i must say it was really good

  • @Basicaly-sf7zn
    @Basicaly-sf7zn Рік тому +51

    *Honestly kind of sweet that they actually want to give each other land for once*

  • @animatr0nic
    @animatr0nic Рік тому +3

    The title: You can claim this land!
    The content: You can't claim this land!

  • @smartsthemiddlename6296
    @smartsthemiddlename6296 2 роки тому +2281

    RLL is honestly one of the only channels who delivers a lot of information in a short amount of time and makes us understand everything, and my little geo nerd inside me always loves his vids

  • @petarmalovic7624
    @petarmalovic7624 2 роки тому +224

    2:35 Austria never fully controled Serbia,they only controled Vojvodina.

    • @ekakuzmanoska6319
      @ekakuzmanoska6319 2 роки тому +40

      I was about to write the same comment. The map is quite wrong

    • @kostam.1113
      @kostam.1113 2 роки тому +70

      Also not all of Serbia was included
      cough kosovo cough...

    • @zrnov1934
      @zrnov1934 2 роки тому +1

      probably they didn't care enough or would be too much (costly or time consuming) to change it just to vojvodina it does not really matter. "D

    • @kostam.1113
      @kostam.1113 2 роки тому +26

      @@zrnov1934 He adjusted all other borders so there is really no excuse.

    • @danijeljovic4971
      @danijeljovic4971 2 роки тому +13

      @@zrnov1934 well the map does show south tyrol, galicia and transylvania as part of AH so it's weird they forgot to add only Vojvodina

  • @84live
    @84live Рік тому +101

    I'm from Osijek. More precisely, Tenja, I've known about this for a long time and I applied for citizenship for Liberland 😊

  • @triviakenny6878
    @triviakenny6878 2 роки тому +2

    And what about 2 sister lands of liberland (southeast of Liberland)? It maybe smaller than liberland, but if you can build a building there, it will become gambling/free party/etc haven..

  • @dimitrijepesic1220
    @dimitrijepesic1220 2 роки тому +347

    Whole Serbia was not in Austria-Hungary,only Vojvodina (northern part of the Serbia).

    • @abrahamlincoln856
      @abrahamlincoln856 2 роки тому +31

      Vojvodina 🇭🇺

    • @bogdanzivkovic8711
      @bogdanzivkovic8711 2 роки тому +60

      American ignorance that is. Most of the time they're unable to name their own states, let alone countries in other continents.

    • @RiwenX
      @RiwenX 2 роки тому +10

      @@bogdanzivkovic8711 nationalist rage, reeeee

    • @bogdanzivkovic8711
      @bogdanzivkovic8711 2 роки тому +39

      @@RiwenX Or maybe an opinion based on dozens of polls and research about American knowledge of geography, history, politics and world affairs.

    • @RiwenX
      @RiwenX 2 роки тому +2

      @@bogdanzivkovic8711 you mean funny youtube videos

  • @colindmac78
    @colindmac78 2 роки тому +679

    It's funny how I was just watching an older video of reallifelore and 3 minutes into the video this video popped up. Love your videos and always entertaining and educational.

  • @lov3masterns
    @lov3masterns Рік тому +7

    Very cool and interesting for someone who lives in one of those 2 rivalry countries and never heard of this place! :D

  • @ItzWolves_
    @ItzWolves_ 9 місяців тому +4

    The NDL has claimed this land

  • @zomfgwtfpwnage
    @zomfgwtfpwnage 2 роки тому +332

    I also live 30km away from this location and I'm really surprised how this hasn't happened anywhere else on the planet. Rivers make up a LOT of international borders and they meander as well, it's weird that a dispute didn't happen anywhere else

    • @Prosper_Dean
      @Prosper_Dean 2 роки тому +20

      Maybe they usually specify the precedent for moving rivers. I'm pretty sure the Rio Grande has moved a lot and even been diverted by private businesses in the US; inadvertently encroaching on Mexico's land.

    • @francisdec1615
      @francisdec1615 2 роки тому +37

      It happens between Sweden and Finland, but it's solved in the way that the border rivers are checked each 25th year, and if the rivers have changed, the border will also change a bit, although the pieces of land are usually not bigger than a football field or so.

    • @truenomads1508
      @truenomads1508 2 роки тому +12

      This happens often between US states, usually a huge clusterF or completely silent.

    • @patrikfagard6525
      @patrikfagard6525 2 роки тому +18

      Happened between Belgium and the Netherlands. They did a land swap a couple of years ago on the Maes river.

    • @KimonFrousios
      @KimonFrousios 2 роки тому +6

      There are several instances of geological formations (typically rivers) moving and creating ambiguous borders, that you can find videos about. There are disputes about some of them, but also sometimes the neigbours just make do with having little exclaves on the wrong side of the river, other times they exchange lands.

  • @Jazzinthedark84
    @Jazzinthedark84 2 роки тому +67

    "The British are not to blame for this"
    Me a Brit: "oh thank fuck"

    • @petarn2204
      @petarn2204 2 роки тому +10

      Well, thanks to Brits and Vatican, Croat have largest sea coast, which was denied to Serbia (too dangerous).
      Even though, Croatia committed biggest genocide of entire Balkan history, somehow Serbs were bad guys.....

    • @chees8067
      @chees8067 Рік тому +2

      @@petarn2204 technically the germans made the croatians do it but ok

    • @petarn2204
      @petarn2204 Рік тому +3

      @@chees8067 Correct.

  • @NotDisko
    @NotDisko 2 роки тому +2

    I was in unclaimed land in Europe while visiting Croatia

  • @DanijeI
    @DanijeI Рік тому

    This is de facto a great video.

  • @MartinMizner
    @MartinMizner 2 роки тому +520

    Croatia: *"We want original borders"*
    Serbia: *"We want Danube as border"*
    Serbian land not claimed by Serbia: *Exists*
    Vit Jedlicka: *"So can I take it?"*
    Serbia and Croatia: *"Noooooooo!!!"*

    • @enderman_666
      @enderman_666 2 роки тому +106

      Serbia doesn't really care, Liberland is Croatia's problem

    • @wanawitch
      @wanawitch 2 роки тому

      Typical Balkans.

    • @draganpaunovic5596
      @draganpaunovic5596 2 роки тому +12

      Vit Jedlicka is free to go there from Serbian side , but Croats are stopping him to go there

    • @governmentblankets8077
      @governmentblankets8077 2 роки тому +3

      Never saw more bias "meme"

    • @cikicar
      @cikicar 2 роки тому +4

      @@draganpaunovic5596 techically he can cross Danube from Serbian side.

  • @tehlaser
    @tehlaser 2 роки тому +552

    I’m not sure “unclaimed” is very enlightening here. That word usually implies that nobody thinks it belongs to anyone. Here, two countries each claim the land belongs to the other. That, plus the whole country-using-force-to-exert-actual-physical-control-over-the-land thing. It’s hard to say a bit of land is unclaimed when there’s an army keeping people out of it.

    • @mort3562
      @mort3562 2 роки тому +30

      Do you have a better term that also gets as many clicks as "unclaimed" does?

    • @legendgames128
      @legendgames128 2 роки тому +89

      @@mort3562 "Disputed"

    • @alexdelarge1074
      @alexdelarge1074 2 роки тому +23

      @@legendgames128 Exactly. It is a bit of a stretch to call it "unclaimed" when both Serbia and Croatia actually claim it :D

    • @xres1329
      @xres1329 2 роки тому +23

      Wrong but has a point too. It is unclaimed by either country. Controlled by one of them. And claimed by an outsider.

    • @Dankfort
      @Dankfort 2 роки тому +5

      @@legendgames128 "disputed" would be the land to the east of the Danube

  • @bigsean6045
    @bigsean6045 Рік тому +10

    It's like when your ex doesn't want you but don't want anyone else to have you neither 😅

  • @korthosen949
    @korthosen949 Рік тому +6

    This place has been claimed a couple years ago they are trying to build a town there but serbia & croatia prevent them from entering (atleast that was the last thing shown in one of plenty yt videos about this island)

    • @alexgraham8029
      @alexgraham8029 Рік тому +1

      Yeah crazy how someone managed to make a video about this without mentioning liberland

  • @Volksgeist
    @Volksgeist 2 роки тому +389

    Nobody wants it? Ok, I’ll take it

    • @RealErk
      @RealErk 2 роки тому +37

      Sorry, i just called dibs

    • @MTC008
      @MTC008 2 роки тому +2

      2nd comment

    • @-xirx-
      @-xirx- 2 роки тому +2

      I'll race you.. 🏃‍♂️

    • @zylnexxd842
      @zylnexxd842 2 роки тому

      Too late

    • @fullmetaltheorist
      @fullmetaltheorist 2 роки тому +5

      Already planted a station there. It's mine.

  • @zvonimirvidovic1714
    @zvonimirvidovic1714 2 роки тому +178

    I like watching RLL videos, but as a Croat from Croatia, I have to write here that in this video you told incorrect data from history, biggest one shown on the map of Austro-Hungary Empire.

    • @johndeesnotebook5790
      @johndeesnotebook5790 2 роки тому +66

      And it's not small mistake. Dude said that both countries was controlled by Austria-Hungry which is not true and that map is not correct. Later on, he said that Croatia and Serbia had their independence for the first time in the 90's, also not true, booth countries had kingdoms in medevil era, they are older then Germany, Italy etc. Not small mistakes if you ask me...

    • @StekliCujo
      @StekliCujo 2 роки тому +26

      @@johndeesnotebook5790 Also, Serbia became independent from the Ottomans in the 19th century.

    • @zvonimirvidovic1714
      @zvonimirvidovic1714 2 роки тому +17

      @@StekliCujo correct! 1878 to be precise, after Berlin congress

    • @tryingmybest206
      @tryingmybest206 2 роки тому +6

      @@johndeesnotebook5790 This whole ramble and you didn't even listen to the video. He said "for the first time IN CENTURIES". He didn't say for the first time. So he's right.

    • @urbangorilla33
      @urbangorilla33 2 роки тому +5

      @@tryingmybest206 They were independent in the 19th century as noted above, so he's wrong.

  • @zoranznidaric4518
    @zoranznidaric4518 2 роки тому +21

    well, economy of Slavonia (east part of Croatia) is quite in a poor condition. Because of that, a lot of people migrated from there to other countries. Vojvodina (north province of Serbia) is economically the most developed part of Serbia, but people migrate to other countries too. So problem with border is not the priority for this people. Building better economy is.

  • @TheRipplaya
    @TheRipplaya Рік тому

    That horse statue at 6:56 thou. Pure balkan art.

  • @JGHFunRun
    @JGHFunRun 2 роки тому +24

    Croatia: We don't own here
    Also croatia: **detains anyone that enters**
    Way to assert that you don't own it, Croatia

  • @PakBallandSami
    @PakBallandSami 2 роки тому +144

    i really like these types of thing in the world because it has so much history with it that you can learn a lot of thing

    • @sapphire5475
      @sapphire5475 2 роки тому

      I am sad today I didn't got a single subscriber😭😭......... ...............

    • @Yoshi12349
      @Yoshi12349 2 роки тому +13

      @@sapphire5475 shut up.

    • @PakBallandSami
      @PakBallandSami 2 роки тому +10

      @@sapphire5475 you should try to get a life i heard that helps

    • @MOHAMMED-lt4eu
      @MOHAMMED-lt4eu 2 роки тому

      Same bro I have been watching him for 4 or 5 month I love his videos and I’m still watching him

    • @MOHAMMED-lt4eu
      @MOHAMMED-lt4eu 2 роки тому

      @@Yoshi12349 ikr 🤣🤣

  • @5mwa
    @5mwa Рік тому

    Reminds me of Civilization PC Game where a single plot of land is not claimed by anyone due to the fact that it is surrounded by 1-2 nations, yet the 1-2 nations does not have enough influence to take the land.

  • @josephmatthews7698
    @josephmatthews7698 10 місяців тому

    Happens all the time with river borders. Theres an airport called rosecrans in saint joseph missouri that one day the river jumped over it and now kansas technically owns the airport.

  • @LE64SAM-IAM
    @LE64SAM-IAM 2 роки тому +120

    The first time I heard about that disputed land in Europe, I thought it was one of the most ridiculous things I'd ever heard; but that IS a significant amount of land to the east.

    • @dadthelad
      @dadthelad 2 роки тому +16

      Well, it IS a significant chunk of flood plain, effectively a useless swamp.

    • @rainedrop14
      @rainedrop14 Рік тому

      @@dadthelad pfffft, tell that to folridians

  • @allenpradhan2063
    @allenpradhan2063 2 роки тому +332

    As a citizen of liberland is thank you for showing your support to our small nation and highlighting this issue to people outside our country

    • @sapphire5475
      @sapphire5475 2 роки тому +2

      I am sad today I didn't got a single subscriber😭😭......... ...............

    • @archanamuralidharan7988
      @archanamuralidharan7988 2 роки тому +31

      @@sapphire5475 ok?

    • @sun_geography
      @sun_geography 2 роки тому +17

      @@sapphire5475 Why are you sad, you have 1k

    • @Namorist
      @Namorist 2 роки тому +32

      @@sun_geography he's trying to make us feel bad so we can sub to him, he's one of those people who bait people using lies to subscribe to them

    • @acolossalangrybook3169
      @acolossalangrybook3169 2 роки тому +9

      @@sapphire5475 good

  • @alexmilner696
    @alexmilner696 Рік тому

    On Google maps, the border of Croatia and Serbia is still the old river, but you can see the mordern river pass right through all of the border

  • @Obsidian_Dad
    @Obsidian_Dad 7 місяців тому

    There is a journalist that went to Liberland and end up being a temporary government ambassador for Liberland. I forgot where I heard the podcast but if you can find it, it is worth a listen

  • @nusratparveen82
    @nusratparveen82 2 роки тому +131

    Petition to ask reallifelore to make his own country called the kingdom of Reallifeloria.

  • @Eltener123
    @Eltener123 2 роки тому +96

    I'm confused as to why you wouldn't mention de-facto control of the disputed territories or the Balkan wars.

    • @sapphire5475
      @sapphire5475 2 роки тому +1

      I am sad today I didn't got a single subscriber😭😭......... ...............

    • @enderman_666
      @enderman_666 2 роки тому +6

      the Balkan Wars (1st fought in 1912-1913 and the 2nd in 1913) have absolutely nothing to do with the border dispute

    • @xres1329
      @xres1329 2 роки тому +1

      I am glad that perennial issues were kept to minimum.

  • @jexxso
    @jexxso Рік тому

    Şahane bir konu. Çok ilginç ve ilgi çekici bir konuda keyifli bir video olmuş
    Thank you so much

  • @maxjustaregularboi5754
    @maxjustaregularboi5754 Рік тому +1

    - Guards a piece of land, not letting anyone in
    - Says it's Serbia's land
    - Refuses to elaborate further
    Gigachad Croatia

  • @novacaesar9303
    @novacaesar9303 2 роки тому +44

    Croatia: we don't own it
    Also Croatia: We're arresting you for trespassing.

    • @kostam.1113
      @kostam.1113 2 роки тому +10

      Croatia controls all lands left of the Danube
      de facto
      Same way Serbia controls all lands west of the Danube.

    • @joshualogan6655
      @joshualogan6655 2 роки тому

      Dumb comment

    • @TheGrejp
      @TheGrejp 2 роки тому +1

      Illegaly crossing the border (illegally exiting the country) is illegal even if you're entering unclaimed land.

  • @jukicdalibor
    @jukicdalibor 2 роки тому +25

    In fact, Liberland is just one of a dozen islands located in the middle of the Danube between Croatia and Serbia. Liberland is one of the largest islands. You can see their location on Google Earth. I also know that on the other two islands, foreigners also tried to declare independence but failed. The biggest problem is that in summer the area has billions of mosquitoes and it is impossible to stay for a long time. Cheers from Croatia.

    • @guidodenbroeder935
      @guidodenbroeder935 Рік тому +4

      There's no Liberland there, nor anywhere else. The territory consists of a floodplain called Gornja Siga AND an island, called Siga Island.

    • @LloydChristmas983
      @LloydChristmas983 7 місяців тому

      Thank god for the mosquitos, getting rid of those annoying hippies for us ;)

  • @MrSoloun
    @MrSoloun Рік тому +8

    I claim all of these pieces of land as the traditional lands of my people. I now wish to apply for financial aid to assist my country in these troubling times. I now wish to advise that our country will be disbanding due to insurmountable differences and to avoid a civil conflict that could lead to countless deaths, literally, so that we can follow our own destiny as a people. Who do I give my bank account details to for the financial aid deposit part :)

  • @2FaceGames
    @2FaceGames Рік тому

    OOOO thanks i will claim it :D

  • @__dane__
    @__dane__ 2 роки тому +64

    I’ll save you some time. Border was originally set following the Danube river’s path at the time. Since then the river’s path has changed.
    Serbia recognizes the current river as the border, Croatia recognizes the historical path of the river.

    • @kostam.1113
      @kostam.1113 2 роки тому +13

      I live in Sombor a city like 20km away from Danube and Liberland
      And i have been all over that region by boat and foot
      Danube never meandered so much (maybe it did like 300 years ago)
      So when commies made that border they certainly didn't use historical Danube path

    • @user-rd3yv3yo6e
      @user-rd3yv3yo6e 2 роки тому +26

      croat here, i think the border should follow the current flow of the danube, just like serbia claims it to be.

    • @loodiloodi8237
      @loodiloodi8237 2 роки тому +9

      @@user-rd3yv3yo6e Thanks brother, its much more normal border.

    • @user-rd3yv3yo6e
      @user-rd3yv3yo6e 2 роки тому +4

      @@loodiloodi8237 i agree

    • @someguycalledcerberus9805
      @someguycalledcerberus9805 2 роки тому +4

      @@loodiloodi8237 Imagine trying to travel South along the border in the Croatioan version and having to cross the river like 5 times to stay within the country :|

  • @CBSnB2R
    @CBSnB2R 2 роки тому +50

    Yeah we learn about this border dispute in school here in Croatia. It's pretty cool to see it covered here.

    • @polonijj
      @polonijj 2 роки тому +9

      Stvarno? Mi to nismo nikad ucili. Ja sam iz Vukovara i nisam ni znala da takvo nesto postoji

  • @jakubfelenda4851
    @jakubfelenda4851 2 роки тому +1

    The third place is actually claimed and it is called Liberaland. Only few countries worldwide acknowledge them. The person standing behind it is called Vít Jedlička from CZ.

    • @guidodenbroeder935
      @guidodenbroeder935 Рік тому

      No country recognizes Liberland. The territory was already claimed by Paraduin before Jedlicka had ever heard about it.

  • @TakaImprezka
    @TakaImprezka Рік тому +5

    This actually made me think, how the other river borders are managed in Europe? Like Oder between Poland and Germany? Oh... OK, I think I know the answer

    • @filewr8515
      @filewr8515 Рік тому

      In here we go to war every 100 years and redraw the border each time

  • @Dragosteaa
    @Dragosteaa 2 роки тому +113

    The Balkans are so beautiful, I visited all over for half a year and life truly felt so comfortable there. I can’t wait to visit again and explore more

    • @Alnitak725
      @Alnitak725 2 роки тому +17

      Too bad its so hard to actually live there :(

    • @sentaveliki425
      @sentaveliki425 2 роки тому +20

      @@Alnitak725 financially hard yes but if money is not big issue then its great

    • @qwertyqwerty-dr4ni
      @qwertyqwerty-dr4ni 2 роки тому +13

      @@sentaveliki425 except it is a big issue?

    • @popcornsniper
      @popcornsniper 2 роки тому +4

      Your name actually means "the love" in my language.

    • @Alnitak725
      @Alnitak725 2 роки тому +8

      @@sentaveliki425 thing is to live there you need a job and unemployment is very high. Otherwise I wouldnt think twice. I'd be all over former Yugoslavia

  • @albinovenom6872
    @albinovenom6872 2 роки тому +47

    The Austro-Hungarians didn't draw the maps between Serbia and Croatia, all those lands were apart of the larger Kingdom of Hungary. The borders were decided after the Yugoslav wars in 1995.

    • @kostam.1113
      @kostam.1113 2 роки тому +18

      Border was decided back in 1945-1946
      Although it was never fully defined since it was internal administrative border.
      Not to mention that entire Serbo-Croat border is just atrocious.

    • @sapphire5475
      @sapphire5475 2 роки тому

      I am sad today I didn't got a single subscriber😭😭......... ...............

    • @albinovenom6872
      @albinovenom6872 2 роки тому +1

      @Captain_Morgan The modern borders of Serbia,Croatia and Bosnia are a result of the Dayton Agreement. Basically the territory that is near the free territory is called "krajina" meaning "borderland". In 1991 it was an unrecognized Serbian puppet state a.k.a "Republika Srpska Krajina" or the Republic of Serbian Krajina a.k.a the Republic of Serbian Borderland, officially recognized as a part of Croatia but controlled by Federal Yugoslav troops during the Yugoslav Wars.
      PS: The modern borders were created during the Democratic Federal Yugoslavia but were officially recognized after the Yugoslav Wars because of Slobodan Milosevic's plan of a "Greater Serbian State" incorporating much of the territory of "Krajina"

    • @kostam.1113
      @kostam.1113 2 роки тому +1

      @Captain_Morgan Really inaccurate since only like 5% of that border correlates with modern Serbian-Croat border.

    • @kostam.1113
      @kostam.1113 2 роки тому +8

      @@albinovenom6872 Dayton agreement was meant for Bosnia only
      In Croatia after the destruction of majority of Krajina you had Erdut agreement that peacefully under UN supervision reintegrated remaining regions into Croatia.
      It also confirmed that old Yugoslav administrative borders will be new international borders between Croatia and Serbia (along with problems of those borders).

  • @andrejradicevic1411
    @andrejradicevic1411 Рік тому +1

    "Every piece of land on earth is claimed we think"
    Antractica: I need to form the Republic of Penguin so i have mine's claimed?

  • @Dante-lv6vz
    @Dante-lv6vz 2 роки тому +24

    I watch a lot of Ed. videos here on UA-cam, but man, you really do have a distinct signature in your style of editing and delivery. Thanks for the uploads.

    • @Psychol-Snooper
      @Psychol-Snooper 2 роки тому +1

      Erectile dysfunction videos? Why? There are pills for that.

    • @Dante-lv6vz
      @Dante-lv6vz 2 роки тому +1

      @Angry Applesauce Misfires can happen, but pills? Lol nah ill just wait for 10 minutes or so.

    • @Psychol-Snooper
      @Psychol-Snooper 2 роки тому

      @@Dante-lv6vz That would be ejaculatory dysfunction, of the premature verity. For that there are shady pills, but the official treatment is a spray.
      I'll show myself out.

  • @User31129
    @User31129 2 роки тому +232

    Many states along the Ohio, Mississippi and Missouri rivers in the US have this exact same occurrence. And each and every one has done what Croatia wants done: ignore the current location of the river. There's a piece of Omaha, Nebraska that is on the West side of the Missouri River but is nonetheless part of Iowa. Because the border was drawn up when it was still on the East side of the river. Pieces of Kentucky are west of the Mississippi, pieces of Missouri are east of the Mississippi, and so on.

    • @callmehplus
      @callmehplus 2 роки тому +10

      That's messy

    • @User31129
      @User31129 2 роки тому +29

      @@callmehplus yeah, but like in the former Yugoslavia, MOST of these spots are small, rural, and little to no population. But lookup Carter Lake, Iowa for an interesting exception.

    • @fbarok5
      @fbarok5 2 роки тому +19

      Those examples are in the same countries, when this happens between enemies it gets more complicated. I remember watching a video that mentioned a flood that altered the course of a river and the border just stayed the same, despite creating an "enclave"

    • @evancourtney7746
      @evancourtney7746 2 роки тому +3

      This is why I think Governor Winthrop was wise to explicitly define his new land grants began at the western bank of the Connecticut river. The river is unambiguously in New Hampshire, no matter where it wanders; if your feet are wet you're in NH.

    • @FriedEgg101
      @FriedEgg101 2 роки тому +6

      Italy and Switzerland share a moving border in the Alps, and they just live with whatever nature decides. You can't use a mountain peak for anything though, so it's easy to not care about.

  • @RUBBER_BULLET
    @RUBBER_BULLET 2 роки тому

    I'm not surprised, I've never heard of You're Up.

  • @NICK19ATTACK
    @NICK19ATTACK Рік тому

    Yoo, a video about Liberland let's go!

  • @BatCaveOz
    @BatCaveOz 2 роки тому +51

    "Why Nobody Wants This Part of Europe?"
    I thought for sure the answer was Newcastle.

    • @ARAMRECON117
      @ARAMRECON117 2 роки тому +1

      I thought I was going to watch a video about Milton Keynes.

    • @geographynate
      @geographynate 2 роки тому

      jaywick

  • @rpb4865
    @rpb4865 2 роки тому +303

    I, on behalf of India, formally recognise Liberland as sovereign nation

    • @LoisoPondohva
      @LoisoPondohva 2 роки тому +41

      I uphold this recognition on behalf of USA and Russian Federation.
      Two members of UN security council, that surely settles the issue.

    • @sadullarizayev3121
      @sadullarizayev3121 2 роки тому +20

      I uphold this recognition on behalf of Central Asia and West Taiwan.
      Here, now You have full Asia supporting Liberland

    • @d4arx672
      @d4arx672 2 роки тому +20

      I uphold this recognition on behalf of Mars. Now even other planets recognise this land.

    • @K_ingh16
      @K_ingh16 2 роки тому +15

      I uphold this recognition on behalf of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and claim this land on their behalf and the behalf of Her Majesty

    • @satanharsh1999
      @satanharsh1999 2 роки тому +11

      I, on a behalf of a earth , recognise liberland as a soveriegn nation

  • @lighttheoryllc4337
    @lighttheoryllc4337 2 роки тому +1

    Watching on 2x Speed Playback is like being on ACID

  • @greyfells2829
    @greyfells2829 2 роки тому

    Somebody is caring for the land based off sat images, the unwooded portions have been sown with trees, presumably to keep it from shifting any more.
    Very interesting look around in Earth, you can still see many signs of the old river that the borders seems to de-facto follow.

  • @TheAnthraxBiology
    @TheAnthraxBiology 2 роки тому +6

    1:13 I've never heard someone say Europe in such a weird way like the change in tone of voice is astounding

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 2 роки тому +21

    Regarding weird borders, there's also the Ems estuary between Germany and the Netherlands. I never really understood that one. Could be somewhat of interest for a future video.

  • @gooddreams_
    @gooddreams_ Рік тому

    Me getting a 2minute ad about country's that are collapsing incuding Europe:
    "what the-"

  • @user-dt2tw4jn9c
    @user-dt2tw4jn9c Рік тому +21

    for the first time i've seen someone foreign do history on Serbia(and Croatia), you even showed the part where i live in Serbia

    • @GNLS2011
      @GNLS2011 Рік тому +1

      Yeah only Serbia ! Yugoslavia !

    • @thegalhorowitz
      @thegalhorowitz Рік тому

      As someone who grew up in Turkey as a minority I just knew people disliked Turkey. I completely get it tho since so do I.

  • @DeezNuts-
    @DeezNuts- 2 роки тому +21

    This is basically the same issue with bir tawil, if either nation claims it, then they lose they right to claim better land

    • @gimmethegepgun
      @gimmethegepgun 2 роки тому +1

      But with the crucial difference that the land Croatia refuses to take isn't completely worthless like Bir Tawil is.

  • @nikolaresanovic8335
    @nikolaresanovic8335 2 роки тому +179

    I'm from Serbia and this is the 1st time im hearing about this Liberland. Fascinating how we haven't learned about this in school.

    • @sadullarizayev3121
      @sadullarizayev3121 2 роки тому +18

      It must be sad not knowing about one of your best neighbors, huh? :|

    • @sapphire5475
      @sapphire5475 2 роки тому +1

      I am sad today I didn't got a single subscriber😭😭......... ...............

    • @LaVaZ000
      @LaVaZ000 2 роки тому +16

      Not really, it's not even an established nation.

    • @kailahmann1823
      @kailahmann1823 2 роки тому +23

      Well, from a Serbian point of view, that's a problem within Croatia, so why care? And Croatia (while actually controlling that area) says "that's a problem within Serbia" :)

    • @BosnianBornBeast
      @BosnianBornBeast 2 роки тому +25

      That's because someone is trolling both Serbia and Croatia. You guys had a dispute after the war in 1995 and some Czech guy just came and took his advantage of "claiming" the land. But I've heard the Croatian police arrested him.

  • @DK-tm3qj
    @DK-tm3qj Рік тому

    The map @2:36 claims that Serbia (but not Kosovo!!) once belonged to Austro-Hungary - any source for that?

  • @SANJITHEGRAVEDIGGER_467
    @SANJITHEGRAVEDIGGER_467 Рік тому

    Bro those survival house buildings dudes are gonna make a town lol

  • @lr6399
    @lr6399 2 роки тому +27

    I can't even explain to you how unimportant this "problem" is both for Croatia and Serbia

    • @arnorrian1
      @arnorrian1 2 роки тому +6

      So unimportant that Croatia will block Serbia's entry into the EU if Croatia's view on the border is not agreed upon by Serbia.

    • @jimbofergus
      @jimbofergus 2 роки тому

      Just wait until 600 thousand Liberlanders show up in Croatia.

    • @tamarans.ns.ii.4968
      @tamarans.ns.ii.4968 2 роки тому +9

      @@arnorrian1 They will do what Germans tell them to do. And Germans will do what US tells them to do. So Croatian politicians can huff and puff all they want if Washington decides it's in their interest to absorb Serbia into EU it will happen. Hopefully EU will fall apart before that happens :)

  • @halonothing1
    @halonothing1 2 роки тому +4

    0:55 Well that's a funny looking triangle. lol

  • @aleksejjovanovic986
    @aleksejjovanovic986 Рік тому +1

    Only issue here is that people have already claimed that part.

  • @darrinwebber4077
    @darrinwebber4077 2 роки тому

    There are also 3 other small parcels along Danube that are not claimed.

  • @mike5587
    @mike5587 2 роки тому +8

    After the last two years I'd happily take a slice of Antarctica.

  • @Seeker52
    @Seeker52 2 роки тому +77

    A friendly comment, the name of that Czech guy has a wildly different pronunciation, so it would be nice to include the written form in the video, or checking up with someone who actually speaks the language. I personally had to listen three times just to understand what it might be. ;-)

    • @lukasalan8682
      @lukasalan8682 2 роки тому +1

      Yep, same

    • @bakeXX
      @bakeXX 2 роки тому +8

      Vít Jedlička

    • @umad5671
      @umad5671 2 роки тому +2

      @@jelenad6367?

    • @sillytorque
      @sillytorque 2 роки тому

      @@jelenad6367 Your English reading comprehension needs some practice..... read what he said again... it's about the incorrect pronunciation of a CZ name, not his inability to understand English.....

  • @pookachu64
    @pookachu64 2 роки тому

    So this is exactly the same scenario as the second dispute(Sudan Egypt) you mentioned

  • @user-ul5pt1yb8z
    @user-ul5pt1yb8z Рік тому

    Thanks a lot

  • @Unbreakable2070
    @Unbreakable2070 2 роки тому +7

    We respect your video's and we thank you much for all of the intelligence you gave us with all of your videos ❤
    Keep it up!😁🔥

  • @PakBallandSami
    @PakBallandSami 2 роки тому +5

    man the animation in this video is really good

  • @lifeofnikola1688
    @lifeofnikola1688 Рік тому

    I live near that place around 100km from there

  • @_Cubicake
    @_Cubicake Рік тому

    2:08 australia* (captain cook who discovered australia said it was terra nulls even though it wasn't)

  • @LilFish0
    @LilFish0 2 роки тому +63

    Croatia: doesn’t recognize liberland being theirs to support their stronger claims
    Also Croatia: forget that; your arrested for claiming our land

    • @petardrmac132
      @petardrmac132 2 роки тому +14

      They weren't arrested for claiming land, but for illegal border crossing into serbian territory. We do not claim those lands, we simply administer them as the serbian side doesn't want to do that.

    • @gavinjenkins899
      @gavinjenkins899 2 роки тому +9

      @@petardrmac132 So you invaded Serbia and impersonated Serbian police officers without permission?

    • @someguycalledcerberus9805
      @someguycalledcerberus9805 2 роки тому +1

      Memes aside, if the land isn't monitored it will become a haven for thieves and criminals of the worst kind.

    • @antjeeismann4684
      @antjeeismann4684 2 роки тому

      @@someguycalledcerberus9805
      No Just No

    • @someguycalledcerberus9805
      @someguycalledcerberus9805 2 роки тому

      @@antjeeismann4684 Yes so. It's a piece of land without legal jurisdiction. Legally speaking I could kill someone in Croatia and then flee there and the Croatian government would have to wade through red tape and a minor diplomatic incident to launch an expedition to No-Man's-Land to get a hold of me. So either they need to formally annex it (which they won't do for reasons shown in the video) or stop people from accessing it (which is what they're doing).

  • @cliftonsargent1572
    @cliftonsargent1572 2 роки тому +12

    You remind of LEMMiNO, just solid entertainment and always perfectly entertaining. I think you fill that hole in my UA-cam life sense he is like jontron now and does maybe a video a year…. Your channel is always uploading and taking over as my favorite

    • @sapphire5475
      @sapphire5475 2 роки тому

      I am sad today I didn't got a single subscriber😭😭......... ...............

  • @somarriba333
    @somarriba333 Рік тому

    WOAH! That horse statue.

  • @jravak487
    @jravak487 Рік тому

    There was an article a few years ago about a guy they did claim that piece of land between Egypt and Sudan to verify to his daughter that she indeed was a princess!

  • @muffyxmind
    @muffyxmind 2 роки тому +70

    I wanna claim Bir Tawil, Terra Nulliuse, Marie Byrd Land and Russian wastelands and will make a Empire called Empire Nobody Needs

    • @Northtamilland
      @Northtamilland 2 роки тому +2

      LOL

    • @The-ZebraFinch-Channel
      @The-ZebraFinch-Channel 2 роки тому +2

      It’s just so funny that not a single Egyptian or Sudanese claimed bir tawil.

    • @Hauketal
      @Hauketal 2 роки тому

      @@The-ZebraFinch-Channel See his other video about it and you know why.

  • @RandallDark
    @RandallDark 2 роки тому +3

    Croatia won't allow anyone to go there? For claiming they don't own it, they seem rather protective of it.

  • @rikschaaf
    @rikschaaf Рік тому +1

    It's not really that Serbia and Croatia didn't claim the land. They just didn't claim it for themselves, but rather claimed it for each other. Therefore, according to both countries, the land is actually claimed to be part of a certain nation. They just don't agree on which nation it is.

  • @Kryojenix
    @Kryojenix 2 роки тому

    2:05 Quick! Send Captain Cook there stat!

  • @gatewaytothewest6448
    @gatewaytothewest6448 2 роки тому +7

    There’s something very similar to this between Canada, and the U.S. except they’re fighting for a piece of the ocean with a little island for lobster fishing. You should check that out when you have time.

  • @bobin3113
    @bobin3113 2 роки тому +31

    2:37 why is serbia included in Austria-hungary? That's like including Canada in a map of todays USA

  • @1starbrainfire
    @1starbrainfire 2 роки тому +1

    Good to know 👍🏻

  • @tiffaniterris2886
    @tiffaniterris2886 2 роки тому +1

    Old Native quote that applies (I think it's from Red Cloud) "Land isn't a thing for men to own and say who can walk upon it."

  • @gato-junino
    @gato-junino 2 роки тому +11

    One lesson: do not draw borders using rivers. Or at least: make two countries make an agreement due to changes of the river.