my neighbor just bought a lamborghini for himself.. grrrrrr, THAT'S IT! i will accept nothing less than the chief executive at ford showing up on my doorstep and gifting me their latest million dollar ford gt mk2 supercar! RIGHT AWAY, GET MOVING! holy moly pepperoni, imagine being this incredibly spoiled and entitled.. south korea doesn't have to do anything, let alone something that goes against their national security interests and that will lead to escalations and potentially cause the russians to further increase their support for north korea and perhaps even expand the amount of technology that they are willing to share with them. that is undoubtedly going to leave the koreans worse off and increase tensions on the korean peninsula. if ukraine wants new military hardware, they can go see their euro buddies that have been eagerly bankrolling their fight with the russians and ask them to reach into those deep "free" healthcare euro nanny welfare state pockets. there's dozens of different companies that manufacture military hardware around the world, it doesn't necessarily have to come from south korea. and if it does, then they at least need to fork over the cash. there's no free lunch in this world, especially when the sale has a great chance to screw over the country in question by damaging their diplomatic relations with russia and leaving their own citizens at a greater risk in case of a war. the world doesn't revolve around ukraine. this entitled attitude has spread all the way from zelensky through ukrainian officials down to even the lowest ukraine flag profile picture slava ukraine heroic slava doggy sniffing brigade internet commando warrior. and people are starting to get tired of it. zelensky showing off and "you are not doing the enough, i need more, i need the new jet and the missile and the gun, you are either with us or you are evil vladimirovitch kremlin operative and enemy of ukraine, we will ban import of polish tomato and onion to punish poland, how dare not allow ukrainian oligarch to do flooding of poland market with cheap ukraine grains and destroying polish farmer, blah blah we are poor victim country, you must drown yourself to save us otherwise you are enemy of freedom and democracy and putin supporter like evil hungary leader that put interest of hungary citizen before ukrainian, how dare!" and blah blah blah.. then ukrainian officials completely losing their crap over some australian state-run channel airing a documentary of their journalists that embedded with the russian military because god forbid anyone ever shows a tiny little glimpse of the other side after three years of constant slava ukraine and every mainstream media organization fawning all over zelensky and refusing to do their jobs of informing their viewers about what was really happening in ukraine instead of just repeating the ukrainian propaganda coming straight out of kiev and zelensky's public relations office.. heck, we even had ukrainian officials going crazy over some netflix show hiring some actor that didn't slava ukraine heroic slava vroom vroom hard enough and consistently enough for their taste and attempting to crush free speech and cancel people and put pressure on private companies in our countries to blacklist people that they don't like, kinda like they did with tucker when he dared to do the unthinkable by interviewing the leader of the country that we have spent nearly half a trillion dollars over the last two and a half years to attempt to bleed out.. wanted him sanctioned and banned from europe and even put him on their famous kill list. do you guys not understand that you're not winning anybody over and convincing anyone to help ukraine by acting like this? quite the opposite. it's annoying as hell to see people always virtue signaling and playing the pity card. we get it, russia russia russia, ukraine was invaded, russia bad. doesn't mean that ukraine gets free infinite cash for the rest of time and gets to decide everything moving forward down to even picking which actor gets to play in our goddamn television shows..
@@user-2410 wait... Do you think that North Korea, under sanctions and unable to consistently feed it's people with our without sanctions, developed nuclear weapons, ICBMs, SLBMs and satellites without Russian help? Just look at their military parades and say that those ICBM trucks look anything other than Russian...
Definitely. Not only would I like South Korea to donate its Russian equipment which it has lots off, but their K1 tanks, their APC’s anything they can spare. They have lots of good equipment.
Imagine being a Russian soldier, told your military is the greatest and you belong to a world superpower. Then they stick you in some rinky little North Korean vehicle because your "world superpower" can't even replace what it's lost and now has to beg North Korea for help 😂
@@MrCobalt All of that, while they're also in the "comfortable" position to simply consume thousands of archaic vehicles, just pulled from the inherited (ex) sovj. stockpiles...
Seems to me that S. Korea has a rare opportunity here to see how well their hardware works against NK weapons . . . and I'm sure Ukraine would be willing to help them out.
This whole thing is being watched very closely by USA S.K. and all allies. U can BET generals are putting forward drone funding in air and sea after watching mechanized navies n armies of russia dated or not get just taken out. I mean if you had 100s of the drone boats and torpedos all enter a harbor at once no navy could stop them all
@@captaintoyota3171 That was my thought about the airborne drones: send in hundreds of them at once (many can be mere decoys) and the defenders are going to be overwhelmed, no matter what hardware they have.
25 km wire guided using fibre that going to be a very lardy missile…. Raw fibre is 7 -11 kg per km so it’s got at least 150kg’s of fibre on board + casing for the fibre say another 20 kg’s…. Something sounds wrong with the specification!
Fair estimate but probably about 75 lbs less than that. Common aerospace fiber optic weighs about 4 pounds per 1000'. Still a lot of weight. I also only figure about 15km max. I would bet these are no different than wire guided torpedos. You get them up, locate target, put on target and cut the wires before they run out and cut the wires. All of that being said.....I bet you are correct that it's a typo. Even the extended range, larger version of Israel's Spike missile only use fiber optic wire guidance for 8km. If you look around, what little is published about this atgm is that it has fiber optic to provide real time visual to the operator when it's in controlled flight. Once it's target locked it has its own electro-optical guidance. Again, similar in concept to the Israeli Spike-ER. I see no reason why it would have to carry 15-25km of fiber optic when it only has to get up, get closer, lock on and cut the cable. Coming from the top.....it does not need a large warhead at all. With NK being in the circle of "friends" that includes China Russia, Iran and others....there is no reason to doubt that they could not have this technology.
The FOG-MPM (Fiber Optics Guided Multiple Purpose Missile) made by Avibras is 34 kg and has a range of about 60 km. These fibers are incredibly fine, and being glass they're very strong in tension. Once unspooled, the fiber is floating free in the air and is not under much strain. However, FOG missiles have multiple rocket engines, pointing out from the sides at about a 45° angle, so that the fiber can be spooled off the tail, while the video clearly shows a single, central rocket engine. It may be operator-driven, but it's not via a fiber link.
Considering how much crap Russia gives about their own equipment, I can't imagine any of this stuff is going to last long. Fantastic opportunity to learn weaknesses in NK equipment, amazed SK hasn't sent some equipment to test.
I can't imagine North Korean maintenance and storage is any more competent or less ravaged-by-corruption than Putin's programs, either. This crap-when-new gear will be unique amongst almost-all post-war N Korean materiel in having the opportunity to be neglected into unuseability by *two* nations, instead of just one.
that is a good suggestions. I didn't think of that. Possibly might be too close though, I don't think Stugna has the range to reach an AS-90 firing spot.
Well for North Korea and NATO is traning with out own casualties ,i thing its just matter off time when we see Chines weapons,i thing they cry to test there weapons in this war
Anti Tank missiles like the Javelin rise up and then go down at a high angle of attack to get to the weakest part of the armor on tanks and other vehicles.
Just an idea also it could be a captured anti tank weapon from positions that were overan long ago. Especially from Soladar and several other areas during that winter offensive.
@@nobodyherepal3292 NO! he said that in the video yes, however this doesnt look like its wire guided due to what appears to be a single rear rocket motor on the missile, it has to be something else.
I'm actually surprised we haven't seen more of the wire-guided AT systems make a comeback. NATO was fielding such systems in the mid to late 60s and many of them and their descendants were in service until the 90s or 2000s. As far as I'm aware the main issues with them were being able to spot and identify targets at those further ranges as during that time it required really slick coordination between units to pass on that kind of information *or* really long open sight lines, which do exist in eastern Europe and Ukraine but which both sides in this war seem to be trying hard to avoid. They could also be vulnerable to counter battery fire from artillery if they themselves were identified as most of these systems are were static and thus are 'ambush' type weapons. The increase in recon and effective communication basically increased the risk to this type of system, since artillery, which was likely part of the reason they were phased out along with the cold war ending, but with the advent of drones and the possibility of firing on the move with the right system there is now *so much* recon and real time information that you could probably identify your target ahead of time, drive into range, shoot and drive out of range all while you have real time info on what your target is doing, turning it into a 'hunter killer' type of system, which was not really possible before. There is the question though of whether systems like HIMARS or SMART/BONUS types of artillery rounds can just do the same job and to a certain degree they can, and more broadly in NATO we'd just spam the airpower button to deal with the issue these days perhaps precluding their development. In Ukraine however it would provide another option, is probably more responsive, can track moving targets and critically is not possible to jam, so maybe they're worth considering again?
@@suchomimus9921 How do you know Russians are operating this system? It has been reported that North Korea are sending soldiers to Ukraine for combat experience.
@@zollyy until we have NK captured by the Ukrainians or NK bodies, you cannot make assumptions, even if they are on the battlefield, we need clear evidence (uniforms, badges, military ID's, etc.) before jumping to conclusions
There is nothing stopping France or any other NATO member from sending troops to Ukraine. NATO is a defensive alliance, every NATO member is free to attack whoever they like, but they can't expect NATO to come to their rescue after they started a war. THAT is why NATO countries don't get further involved in Ukraine. Besides, Ukraine is doing fine as it is, mark my words, by this time next year, things will be very different in Ukraine.
The geoloc was helpful, but mapping it to the current line of contact might have given some idea what its actual range is (or where this As-90 was dropped)
I wonder whether this will have an effect on South Korea's position on this war. They have been hesitant to support Ukraine. And South Korean weapons are highly likely to perform better than what Kim Jong-un may sell to Ruzzia.
i hope it is the case. South Korea has some top weapons they can supply. Even if they cant give some new stuff, they have a bunch of M113 and even some BMP-3s in storage
Well, Russia can also respond to this by selling its planes to the North Koreans, helping them develop hyperweapons, and many other things, so the South Koreans are not stupid.
It's not clear where the technical specifications claimed for this missile came from. I found two profiles (GlobalSecurity and armyrecognition), but neither cited sources. If this is info from a NK sales brochure, take it with a huge grain of salt.
@@suchomimus9921 I DID note that 25km is exactly the publicly-stated range of the Spike-NLOS, which is the most well-known weapon of the Fiber-guidance type...and the fiber line only runs out to 8km, it is on radio guidance after that.
Well i also did not imagine that USA which bombed my country Serbia would cry to sell them ammunition,before i though that USA has endless supply off it
NLOS via landline from Pyongyang with carrier pigeon enroute corrections and pop-up evasion feature and explosively formed insinkerator slug pokey-thingy. Got it.
Why would the US and other Western nations forbid Ukraine the use of weapons to destroy Russian military objects in Russia? What is wrong with our cowardly politicians? Slava Ukraini!
@@oogie493 Little boy, what does that have to do with using weapons against Russia? You must be one of those deplorable, ignorant MAGA voters, if you are old enough to vote.
The key is the distance from the front. A missile laying wire or fiber has to carry that load, so there's a definite limit. A quick online search reveals a current limit of 8km (5 miles). Would a Ukrainian arty. piece be within 8km of a Russian vehicle? So, I'm calling BS. I think it's an FPV drone. Maybe Putin signed a marketing agreement with Lil Kim, in exchange for a reduction in 'knee-pad duty'.
Its hard to tell what this thing is. Potato-cam isn't helping, but going through the frames at 1:27, it looks absolutely massive in profile like it has a wingspan or control surfaces or whatever that's on the same order as the AS-90 of 3.5 meters. It also doesn't make sense that its glowing. I think its painted bright orange and yellow. This seems to me more like one of the small, prop powered Shahed drones (wingspan 2.5 meters). Anti-tank missiles (as opposed to continuously powered things like the Lancet), wire guided, wireless, fire and forget or fiber optic guided usually burn their flight motor in a couple of seconds and then cruise to their target using that speed. I think whatever this was was painted so it could be seen by the spotter drone, which doesn't makes sense for the Bulsae-4. The Bulsae-4 chassis also looks like a cheap knock-off of the LAV 1. With most western weapon systems, their capabilities are greater than publicized. With NK, China and Russia, you can safely assume that they're far less than publicized.
@@andrewpease3688 I think it means the missile is fired in a ballistic mode high over the likely target and the operator is supposed to acquire with the camera/fiber link from there. Not very efficient/responsive, but doable.
Yes, from what ai can find fo read, the Bulsae 4 makes final correction close to the target by electro-optical....which means self guiding and not fiber optic. This is not really sophisticated. It does not require logic. It's not much more complex than an early 2000s cheap digital camera with the classic smile sensor. It has been suggested from snippets ai have read here and there, that like the Israeli spike, the fiber optic link to the operator is just to get it on vector and the electro-optical sensor centered on the target. Once the operator commands lock or hold, the electro-optical sensor just keeps the positive and negative image values of what little it can see....centered in the cross hair. There have been many weapons like this. The first "AI" drones we heard about from Ukraine a few months back are likely using something similar. Not really AI but autonomous programming around a crude sensor with narrow values. I would also bet, that unless this NK atgm HAS any real computing logic....it can easily fooled. Basic electro-optical sensors are kind of black and white/on or off/positive and negative. It does not know what it sees. It has a "shape" in its sensor eye. It was told to lock onto that and steer to keep that shape centered. If that shape is moving or the light changes enough to make it unrecognizable....or it the movement of the warhead to steer keeps moving this "shape/image" outside of its view range.....it loses lock. Probably good for stationary targets for the most part.
I wonder if you can dismount the weapon system from the vehicle. Just the guidance unit and one or two missiles might be able to be lugged around without much notice.
I would like to offer a slight correction to the video you showed. The first time the video surfaced was on March 3rd. There is also question over the identification of the destroyed howitzer, as some claimed it was an AHS Krab instead of an AS-90 but I don't know personally.
@@suchomimus9921 LOL, maybe N Korea named it "Bulsae" because Kim demanded a "bullseye" and giving the system that name was the only way it would ever get one?
Allying yourself with North Korea after condemning them multiple times in the UN Security Council is humiliating and a show of weakness by Putin in itself.
Now that the military might of the glorious people's republic of Noth Korea has been unleashed it's time for not only Ukraine but the entire West to capitulate. Forget Sweden's industrial might, this changes everything. Judge them by their friends I think covers it.
@@rachidsabil3873 ah yes advancing every day, ill just pretend this war hasnt been going on for 2 years, since 2014 even. must be some REALLY small advances. like microscopic. maybe by 2040 russia will have finally won, long after putin dies of old age.
HEY!! Maybe the Tsarevich putin could have some of his own weapon scientists come up with something . . . Oh, that's right. They are all in prison for treason.
@@suchomimus9921 that’s a very very long piece of glass wire layed down across the countryside. It would prevent the launcher moving until the missile has hit. Sitting still for 5 mins after launching a missile seems a bit risky.
Something I have to wonder. How many versions of the Bulsae-4 are there? I have to wonder if there's a "bolt it to your own truck" version that might have been deployed earlier, that might have not been easily identified. Might explain how an AS-90 got hit with one a long time before the Bulsae-4 was even spotted.
The flight path also reminds me of the missile Russia uses on their ka-52 which are manually tracked with laser but this could also be a Man portable atgm
yes, it does resemble those. I wonder if it could be but with a lower altitude flight path than usual Man portable would likely lack the range--this is about 15 km from the front
@@suchomimus9921 it could be a strike from a helicopter no one has reported on it so we don't really know but I don't think it was that North Korean system seems highly unlikely for it to be in that area of the West now if this happened on the border I could understand seems like more of a place to put it these systems have to be stationary for the entire duration of Fire it's basically just a atgm on tracks they do have a man portable version North Korea makes bulsae3 which is based off of the Soviet fagot with upgraded guidance instead of wire guided
@suchomimus9921 it could be a strike from a helicopter no one has reported on it so we don't really know but I don't think it was that North Korean system seems highly unlikely for it to be in that area of the West now if this happened on the border I could understand seems like more of a place to put it these systems have to be stationary for the entire duration of Fire it's basically just a atgm on tracks they do have a man portable version North Korea makes bulsae3 which is based off of the Soviet fagot with upgraded guidance instead of wire guided
@@suchomimus9921 it could be a strike from a helicopter no one has reported on it so we don't really know but I don't think it was that North Korean system seems highly unlikely for it to be in that area of the West now if this happened on the border I could understand seems like more of a place to put it these systems have to be stationary for the entire duration of Fire it's basically just a atgm on tracks they do have a man portable version North Korea makes bulsae3 which is based off of the Soviet fagot with upgraded guidance instead of wire guided
@@suchomimus9921 @suchomimus9921 it could be a strike from a helicopter no one has reported on it so we don't really know but I don't think it was that North Korean system seems highly unlikely for it to be in that area of the West now if this happened on the border I could understand seems like more of a place to put it these systems have to be stationary for the entire duration of Fire it's basically just a atgm on tracks they do have a man portable version North Korea makes bulsae3 which is based off of the Soviet fagot with upgraded guidance instead of wire guided
Would all the nameplates on the Bilsae-4s have to be changed out to Russian or do the Russians have to learn Korean? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Maybe the complete system wasn't available in March, so the NOKs sent just the missile box and controls and the Rooskies put it on some platform of their own. So it might be a Korean missile but not a Korean system that launched it. It looks rather too green for it to be in March, yes. I think there are a lot of problems with the provenance of the vid.
That’s it. South Korea needs to lift its restrictions on arms exports to Ukraine.
I think this is one of the reasons why the South has been reconsidering their stance, seeing North Korean munitions in Ukraine.
my neighbor just bought a lamborghini for himself.. grrrrrr, THAT'S IT! i will accept nothing less than the chief executive at ford showing up on my doorstep and gifting me their latest million dollar ford gt mk2 supercar! RIGHT AWAY, GET MOVING!
holy moly pepperoni, imagine being this incredibly spoiled and entitled.. south korea doesn't have to do anything, let alone something that goes against their national security interests and that will lead to escalations and potentially cause the russians to further increase their support for north korea and perhaps even expand the amount of technology that they are willing to share with them. that is undoubtedly going to leave the koreans worse off and increase tensions on the korean peninsula. if ukraine wants new military hardware, they can go see their euro buddies that have been eagerly bankrolling their fight with the russians and ask them to reach into those deep "free" healthcare euro nanny welfare state pockets. there's dozens of different companies that manufacture military hardware around the world, it doesn't necessarily have to come from south korea. and if it does, then they at least need to fork over the cash. there's no free lunch in this world, especially when the sale has a great chance to screw over the country in question by damaging their diplomatic relations with russia and leaving their own citizens at a greater risk in case of a war.
the world doesn't revolve around ukraine. this entitled attitude has spread all the way from zelensky through ukrainian officials down to even the lowest ukraine flag profile picture slava ukraine heroic slava doggy sniffing brigade internet commando warrior. and people are starting to get tired of it. zelensky showing off and "you are not doing the enough, i need more, i need the new jet and the missile and the gun, you are either with us or you are evil vladimirovitch kremlin operative and enemy of ukraine, we will ban import of polish tomato and onion to punish poland, how dare not allow ukrainian oligarch to do flooding of poland market with cheap ukraine grains and destroying polish farmer, blah blah we are poor victim country, you must drown yourself to save us otherwise you are enemy of freedom and democracy and putin supporter like evil hungary leader that put interest of hungary citizen before ukrainian, how dare!" and blah blah blah.. then ukrainian officials completely losing their crap over some australian state-run channel airing a documentary of their journalists that embedded with the russian military because god forbid anyone ever shows a tiny little glimpse of the other side after three years of constant slava ukraine and every mainstream media organization fawning all over zelensky and refusing to do their jobs of informing their viewers about what was really happening in ukraine instead of just repeating the ukrainian propaganda coming straight out of kiev and zelensky's public relations office.. heck, we even had ukrainian officials going crazy over some netflix show hiring some actor that didn't slava ukraine heroic slava vroom vroom hard enough and consistently enough for their taste and attempting to crush free speech and cancel people and put pressure on private companies in our countries to blacklist people that they don't like, kinda like they did with tucker when he dared to do the unthinkable by interviewing the leader of the country that we have spent nearly half a trillion dollars over the last two and a half years to attempt to bleed out.. wanted him sanctioned and banned from europe and even put him on their famous kill list.
do you guys not understand that you're not winning anybody over and convincing anyone to help ukraine by acting like this? quite the opposite. it's annoying as hell to see people always virtue signaling and playing the pity card. we get it, russia russia russia, ukraine was invaded, russia bad. doesn't mean that ukraine gets free infinite cash for the rest of time and gets to decide everything moving forward down to even picking which actor gets to play in our goddamn television shows..
I suppose for that to happen Russia has to sent weapons to North Korea, not the other way around
@@user-2410 wait... Do you think that North Korea, under sanctions and unable to consistently feed it's people with our without sanctions, developed nuclear weapons, ICBMs, SLBMs and satellites without Russian help? Just look at their military parades and say that those ICBM trucks look anything other than Russian...
Definitely. Not only would I like South Korea to donate its Russian equipment which it has lots off, but their K1 tanks, their APC’s anything they can spare. They have lots of good equipment.
Spot on, you scored a Bulsae with this video.
lol, I can't believe I missed the chance to do a bulsae pun;
@@suchomimus9921 now - "lets see what you could have won !"
@@Zabfo Always a good prize, then when they do win Jim trots out the speed boat.
Yeah, beat me by a few minutes with the punny fun.
@@suchomimus9921 I was waiting for it the whole video! Well, maybe you will see another opportunity to use this pun in the future.
So the circus is coming to town?
The circus was already in town, the ring leader is just bringing more clowns.
Imagine being a Russian soldier, told your military is the greatest and you belong to a world superpower. Then they stick you in some rinky little North Korean vehicle because your "world superpower" can't even replace what it's lost and now has to beg North Korea for help 😂
@@MrCobalt All of that, while they're also in the "comfortable" position to simply consume thousands of archaic vehicles, just pulled from the inherited (ex) sovj. stockpiles...
@@MrCobalt I imagine a Russian soldier and a N. Korean soldier arguing over who's army is more incompetent.
The amazing and incredibly tedious work of the geolocators is totally underappreciated. They totally rock.🤙👏
Seems to me that S. Korea has a rare opportunity here to see how well their hardware works against NK weapons . . . and I'm sure Ukraine would be willing to help them out.
This whole thing is being watched very closely by USA S.K. and all allies. U can BET generals are putting forward drone funding in air and sea after watching mechanized navies n armies of russia dated or not get just taken out. I mean if you had 100s of the drone boats and torpedos all enter a harbor at once no navy could stop them all
@@captaintoyota3171 That was my thought about the airborne drones: send in hundreds of them at once (many can be mere decoys) and the defenders are going to be overwhelmed, no matter what hardware they have.
Somebody took a wrong turn at the Yalu River.
25 km wire guided using fibre that going to be a very lardy missile…. Raw fibre is 7 -11 kg per km so it’s got at least 150kg’s of fibre on board + casing for the fibre say another 20 kg’s…. Something sounds wrong with the specification!
I was wondering about just that. 15-25km fiberoptic cable... that's quite some, if true.
Very wrong. That fiber cable would have to be much stronger than what you normally use for Internet and just stays put.
Fair estimate but probably about 75 lbs less than that. Common aerospace fiber optic weighs about 4 pounds per 1000'. Still a lot of weight. I also only figure about 15km max. I would bet these are no different than wire guided torpedos. You get them up, locate target, put on target and cut the wires before they run out and cut the wires.
All of that being said.....I bet you are correct that it's a typo. Even the extended range, larger version of Israel's Spike missile only use fiber optic wire guidance for 8km.
If you look around, what little is published about this atgm is that it has fiber optic to provide real time visual to the operator when it's in controlled flight. Once it's target locked it has its own electro-optical guidance. Again, similar in concept to the Israeli Spike-ER.
I see no reason why it would have to carry 15-25km of fiber optic when it only has to get up, get closer, lock on and cut the cable. Coming from the top.....it does not need a large warhead at all.
With NK being in the circle of "friends" that includes China Russia, Iran and others....there is no reason to doubt that they could not have this technology.
The FOG-MPM (Fiber Optics Guided Multiple Purpose Missile) made by Avibras is 34 kg and has a range of about 60 km. These fibers are incredibly fine, and being glass they're very strong in tension. Once unspooled, the fiber is floating free in the air and is not under much strain.
However, FOG missiles have multiple rocket engines, pointing out from the sides at about a 45° angle, so that the fiber can be spooled off the tail, while the video clearly shows a single, central rocket engine. It may be operator-driven, but it's not via a fiber link.
@@jpdemer5 may I ask why the spool is in the rocket and not the launcher? I would see so much benefit from that
Thank you very much for your interesting daily analyses.
I agree, it's an odd curve through the air. Looks really strange.
Good call using geolocation. Slow, wire-guided missiles could originate from many platforms and launchers.
Considering how much crap Russia gives about their own equipment, I can't imagine any of this stuff is going to last long. Fantastic opportunity to learn weaknesses in NK equipment, amazed SK hasn't sent some equipment to test.
I can't imagine North Korean maintenance and storage is any more competent or less ravaged-by-corruption than Putin's programs, either.
This crap-when-new gear will be unique amongst almost-all post-war N Korean materiel in having the opportunity to be neglected into unuseability by *two* nations, instead of just one.
@@edc1569
Cope.
Thank you good sir. Yet more good reporting.
Thank you for the update.
The AS90 was probably destroyed by a stugna-p recovered by Russian troops. It's common for that to happen in war.
that is a good suggestions. I didn't think of that. Possibly might be too close though, I don't think Stugna has the range to reach an AS-90 firing spot.
@@suchomimus9921 surely its possible a few Russians with a stugna got within range....
Could it have been a captured Javelin on top attack mode?@@suchomimus9921
What about a Javelin the orcs may have captured some but I doubt they could have figured out how to use it.
@@PerSvensson-pf3rm not travelling fast enough for Javelin....
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wow.... NK armor on the battlefield against western armor, crazy times!
yeah well, as the russians still feel themselves fighting the cold war, nothing unusual though ...
Well for North Korea and NATO is traning with out own casualties ,i thing its just matter off time when we see Chines weapons,i thing they cry to test there weapons in this war
Anti Tank missiles like the Javelin rise up and then go down at a high angle of attack to get to the weakest part of the armor on tanks and other vehicles.
Just an idea also it could be a captured anti tank weapon from positions that were overan long ago. Especially from Soladar and several other areas during that winter offensive.
Can do so, but it's not like they have to. Even in javelin it's just option you chose depending on situation.
No.
This is a wired guided missile, with apparently 25kms of spool to use, guided by a human operator from a vehicle.
@@nobodyherepal3292 NO!
he said that in the video yes, however this doesnt look like its wire guided due to what appears to be a single rear rocket motor on the missile, it has to be something else.
@@Fred-gc9qt the only other thing I can think of is like, a captured javelin in Russian hands.
I'm actually surprised we haven't seen more of the wire-guided AT systems make a comeback. NATO was fielding such systems in the mid to late 60s and many of them and their descendants were in service until the 90s or 2000s. As far as I'm aware the main issues with them were being able to spot and identify targets at those further ranges as during that time it required really slick coordination between units to pass on that kind of information *or* really long open sight lines, which do exist in eastern Europe and Ukraine but which both sides in this war seem to be trying hard to avoid. They could also be vulnerable to counter battery fire from artillery if they themselves were identified as most of these systems are were static and thus are 'ambush' type weapons.
The increase in recon and effective communication basically increased the risk to this type of system, since artillery, which was likely part of the reason they were phased out along with the cold war ending, but with the advent of drones and the possibility of firing on the move with the right system there is now *so much* recon and real time information that you could probably identify your target ahead of time, drive into range, shoot and drive out of range all while you have real time info on what your target is doing, turning it into a 'hunter killer' type of system, which was not really possible before. There is the question though of whether systems like HIMARS or SMART/BONUS types of artillery rounds can just do the same job and to a certain degree they can, and more broadly in NATO we'd just spam the airpower button to deal with the issue these days perhaps precluding their development. In Ukraine however it would provide another option, is probably more responsive, can track moving targets and critically is not possible to jam, so maybe they're worth considering again?
Thank you!
NATO, if North Korea is in the field then why France can’t have troops in Ukraine?
NATO, wake up.
it is russian. Sorry, didn't make that clear--a weapon donated to russia.
@@suchomimus9921 How do you know Russians are operating this system? It has been reported that North Korea are sending soldiers to Ukraine for combat experience.
NATO is weak. Militarily strong sure but weak because of their politicians and their pathetic worrying
@@zollyy until we have NK captured by the Ukrainians or NK bodies, you cannot make assumptions, even if they are on the battlefield, we need clear evidence (uniforms, badges, military ID's, etc.) before jumping to conclusions
There is nothing stopping France or any other NATO member from sending troops to Ukraine. NATO is a defensive alliance, every NATO member is free to attack whoever they like, but they can't expect NATO to come to their rescue after they started a war. THAT is why NATO countries don't get further involved in Ukraine. Besides, Ukraine is doing fine as it is, mark my words, by this time next year, things will be very different in Ukraine.
Can't wait to see how their turrets launch. Might have a competitor for the T-tanks
The geoloc was helpful, but mapping it to the current line of contact might have given some idea what its actual range is (or where this As-90 was dropped)
good point, I should have included it
@@suchomimus9921 No prob. Just including maps is a big help.
I wonder whether this will have an effect on South Korea's position on this war. They have been hesitant to support Ukraine. And South Korean weapons are highly likely to perform better than what Kim Jong-un may sell to Ruzzia.
i hope it is the case. South Korea has some top weapons they can supply. Even if they cant give some new stuff, they have a bunch of M113 and even some BMP-3s in storage
@@suchomimus9921 bmp3s?
and t-80s also
if nothing else they have alot of artillery and amunition they could spare, they learned that from the korean war
Well, Russia can also respond to this by selling its planes to the North Koreans, helping them develop hyperweapons, and many other things, so the South Koreans are not stupid.
If true, South Korea may be sending serious equipment to Ukraine
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Not sure if they Target was an As90, but that thing was hit hard.
It's not clear where the technical specifications claimed for this missile came from. I found two profiles (GlobalSecurity and armyrecognition), but neither cited sources. If this is info from a NK sales brochure, take it with a huge grain of salt.
true, could definitely be exagerrated
@@suchomimus9921 I DID note that 25km is exactly the publicly-stated range of the Spike-NLOS, which is the most well-known weapon of the Fiber-guidance type...and the fiber line only runs out to 8km, it is on radio guidance after that.
Seems to have very thin armour. Very susceptible to even cluster munitions? Should be easy to knock out.
I never imagined Russia would need help from North Korea.
Well i also did not imagine that USA which bombed my country Serbia would cry to sell them ammunition,before i though that USA has endless supply off it
China is forbidden from supplying lethal weapons so they have NK do it.
Despots stick together.
@@dzonikgmaybe serbia shouldn’t have been massacring its neighbors
@@bluebandites Maybe Serbian neighbours shouldn't have started the massacres?c
NLOS via landline from Pyongyang with carrier pigeon enroute corrections and pop-up evasion feature and explosively formed insinkerator slug pokey-thingy. Got it.
Idk, it might be just a btr with some kind of cope cage on top.
Out of the fossil room
lol, yep bedroom recording for this one
@@suchomimus9921 I have 2 UA-cam channels so all kinds of mic/recording knowledge. :-) The echo was no biggie.
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That North Korean piece was well hidden.
Obviously went to the Monty Python School!
Why would the US and other Western nations forbid Ukraine the use of weapons to destroy Russian military objects in Russia? What is wrong with our cowardly politicians? Slava Ukraini!
cuz ukraine isn't a US state. There's your answer.
@@oogie493 Little boy, what does that have to do with using weapons against Russia? You must be one of those deplorable, ignorant MAGA voters, if you are old enough to vote.
bcause they afraid of russia😂
The key is the distance from the front. A missile laying wire or fiber has to carry that load, so there's a definite limit. A quick online search reveals a current limit of 8km (5 miles). Would a Ukrainian arty. piece be within 8km of a Russian vehicle? So, I'm calling BS. I think it's an FPV drone. Maybe Putin signed a marketing agreement with Lil Kim, in exchange for a reduction in 'knee-pad duty'.
That is certainly appears to be a strong piece of kit Russia got in there.
Shame Jim Bowen isn't around, he'd know if it was a Bullseye. Cheers
thanks very much
Such:
"No AS 90 or Challenger destroyed.
Never. I guess..."
Absolutely agree about one operating for months on the front and not being noticed. That's not possible.
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North Korean missiles travel backwards in time! Lol!
South Korea better think about sending lethal aid to the Ukrainian front seeing North Korean equipment on the battlefield.
South Korea could probably get valuable test data on how to engage North Korean equipment if the wanted to.
Be nice if we could see the faces of the men operating the RV
North Korea received twenty chickens for that deal.
Kim will be pigging out tonight...
Bulsae ? Sounds a bit like Bullseye !
i cant believe I missed the chance to make a Bullseye pun with it
Let’s look forward to seeing the first one of the North Korean launchers cooking it’s crew
Its hard to tell what this thing is. Potato-cam isn't helping, but going through the frames at 1:27, it looks absolutely massive in profile like it has a wingspan or control surfaces or whatever that's on the same order as the AS-90 of 3.5 meters. It also doesn't make sense that its glowing. I think its painted bright orange and yellow. This seems to me more like one of the small, prop powered Shahed drones (wingspan 2.5 meters).
Anti-tank missiles (as opposed to continuously powered things like the Lancet), wire guided, wireless, fire and forget or fiber optic guided usually burn their flight motor in a couple of seconds and then cruise to their target using that speed. I think whatever this was was painted so it could be seen by the spotter drone, which doesn't makes sense for the Bulsae-4.
The Bulsae-4 chassis also looks like a cheap knock-off of the LAV 1. With most western weapon systems, their capabilities are greater than publicized. With NK, China and Russia, you can safely assume that they're far less than publicized.
25 km with a fiber link? I don't think so
NLOS fiber optic guided missile system with a range of 15-25km
Yeah,that’s what I thought too.And capable of NLOS..This has to mean the data link prior to launch?
@@andrewpease3688 I think it means the missile is fired in a ballistic mode high over the likely target and the operator is supposed to acquire with the camera/fiber link from there. Not very efficient/responsive, but doable.
That would require an impressive amount of fibre that would have to be very strong indeed.
@@TheFrewah there are at least a few weapons that use this system of guidance,,,
North Korea should be focusing on their real enemy: The choco pie factory.
Yes, from what ai can find fo read, the Bulsae 4 makes final correction close to the target by electro-optical....which means self guiding and not fiber optic. This is not really sophisticated. It does not require logic. It's not much more complex than an early 2000s cheap digital camera with the classic smile sensor.
It has been suggested from snippets ai have read here and there, that like the Israeli spike, the fiber optic link to the operator is just to get it on vector and the electro-optical sensor centered on the target. Once the operator commands lock or hold, the electro-optical sensor just keeps the positive and negative image values of what little it can see....centered in the cross hair.
There have been many weapons like this. The first "AI" drones we heard about from Ukraine a few months back are likely using something similar. Not really AI but autonomous programming around a crude sensor with narrow values.
I would also bet, that unless this NK atgm HAS any real computing logic....it can easily fooled. Basic electro-optical sensors are kind of black and white/on or off/positive and negative. It does not know what it sees. It has a "shape" in its sensor eye. It was told to lock onto that and steer to keep that shape centered. If that shape is moving or the light changes enough to make it unrecognizable....or it the movement of the warhead to steer keeps moving this "shape/image" outside of its view range.....it loses lock. Probably good for stationary targets for the most part.
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Thank you, Suchomimus, for your analysis. Looks more like a flare than a m'ssile.
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So you are saying that a flare destroyed a spg? Do you have a brain?
A flare? God these bots are getting dumber and dumber every day ukraine loses
The first Ukrainian to hit the Bulsae wins not just one but 4 "Speed Boats"
Super, smashing, great”, “Let's look at what you could have won”.
A ceramic bullseye teapot???😂😂😂😂
These were so OP in Battle Isle 2.
I couldn’t remember where the line was, back then. went with rozdolivka, so 16km about.
And I don’t know what.
Thats one of them over yonder missile systems
This is bad news, as the whole strategy of attrition supposes that R. will run out of weapons next year.
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They coat the warheads with kimchi, deadly.
north korean weapons in ukraine war is crazy wtfff
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I wonder if you can dismount the weapon system from the vehicle. Just the guidance unit and one or two missiles might be able to be lugged around without much notice.
I would like to offer a slight correction to the video you showed. The first time the video surfaced was on March 3rd. There is also question over the identification of the destroyed howitzer, as some claimed it was an AHS Krab instead of an AS-90 but I don't know personally.
Ah, March is it. Cheers. That makes it even less likely to be a Bulseye
@@suchomimus9921 No problem, glad to help.
@@suchomimus9921 LOL, maybe N Korea named it "Bulsae" because Kim demanded a "bullseye" and giving the system that name was the only way it would ever get one?
Allying yourself with North Korea after condemning them multiple times in the UN Security Council is humiliating and a show of weakness by Putin in itself.
Now that the military might of the glorious people's republic of Noth Korea has been unleashed it's time for not only Ukraine but the entire West to capitulate. Forget Sweden's industrial might, this changes everything. Judge them by their friends I think covers it.
Thanks Sucho 🟨🟦
I bet little putin is breathing easier with all that sweet, sweet DPRK high tech stuff. I'm sure it will perform flawlessly. LOL!!
Surely better than all the crappy western game changers that can’t stop Russia advancing everyday
Maybe if little putin had kept a good relationship with China, he could have had much better toys. Oh well . . .
Those crappy western game changers are the reason the 3 day special operation is now a 890 day war with catastrophic losses for russia.
@@rachidsabil3873 ah yes advancing every day, ill just pretend this war hasnt been going on for 2 years, since 2014 even.
must be some REALLY small advances. like microscopic. maybe by 2040 russia will have finally won, long after putin dies of old age.
HEY!! Maybe the Tsarevich putin could have some of his own weapon scientists come up with something . . . Oh, that's right. They are all in prison for treason.
Did you say fibre optic 25km range?
I’ll google this in the morning
up to 25 km -- between 15 to 25 is said
How do you spool out that much cable?
@@suchomimus9921 that’s a very very long piece of glass wire layed down across the countryside.
It would prevent the launcher moving until the missile has hit.
Sitting still for 5 mins after launching a missile seems a bit risky.
would break under its own weight, might get ..... 3 k?
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Why would it break.
It’s as thick as a hair.
It must work because it exists
Something I have to wonder. How many versions of the Bulsae-4 are there? I have to wonder if there's a "bolt it to your own truck" version that might have been deployed earlier, that might have not been easily identified. Might explain how an AS-90 got hit with one a long time before the Bulsae-4 was even spotted.
Whatever it was, it is gone. This is the most important.
Sounds like a ballet troupe!!!!!
We'll see DPRK troops and equipment on the neo-Soviet side.
It's when we start seeing PLA regulars that things get dicey, especially for Russia.
there were at least 3 guys in the as90 :(
Not necessarily. The video was cut to way later, when the drone moved far away
Finally Polan can into space.
Yes, how's South Korea going to respond?
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rather confusing
Bulsae is lucky to hit the broadside of a barn.
Needs a Bullseye visit from Dusty Bin!
An as90 should be well out of the ark of the drone in the video that looked to arch fairly close to it
That missile flight trajectory path looks almost like a Javaline used by the west..
bulsae-4 is a NK mod of 'cornet' ATGM. whatever this is(M-2010?), it's not bulsae-4(불새-4)
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15Km range missile guided by a cable??? 🤷♂️🤦🙌...if you say so but there's an obvious flaw in that plan... ✂️😂
The bullseye 4
The flight path also reminds me of the missile Russia uses on their ka-52 which are manually tracked with laser but this could also be a Man portable atgm
yes, it does resemble those. I wonder if it could be but with a lower altitude flight path than usual
Man portable would likely lack the range--this is about 15 km from the front
@@suchomimus9921 it could be a strike from a helicopter no one has reported on it so we don't really know but I don't think it was that North Korean system seems highly unlikely for it to be in that area of the West now if this happened on the border I could understand seems like more of a place to put it these systems have to be stationary for the entire duration of Fire it's basically just a atgm on tracks they do have a man portable version North Korea makes bulsae3 which is based off of the Soviet fagot with upgraded guidance instead of wire guided
@suchomimus9921 it could be a strike from a helicopter no one has reported on it so we don't really know but I don't think it was that North Korean system seems highly unlikely for it to be in that area of the West now if this happened on the border I could understand seems like more of a place to put it these systems have to be stationary for the entire duration of Fire it's basically just a atgm on tracks they do have a man portable version North Korea makes bulsae3 which is based off of the Soviet fagot with upgraded guidance instead of wire guided
@@suchomimus9921 it could be a strike from a helicopter no one has reported on it so we don't really know but I don't think it was that North Korean system seems highly unlikely for it to be in that area of the West now if this happened on the border I could understand seems like more of a place to put it these systems have to be stationary for the entire duration of Fire it's basically just a atgm on tracks they do have a man portable version North Korea makes bulsae3 which is based off of the Soviet fagot with upgraded guidance instead of wire guided
@@suchomimus9921 @suchomimus9921 it could be a strike from a helicopter no one has reported on it so we don't really know but I don't think it was that North Korean system seems highly unlikely for it to be in that area of the West now if this happened on the border I could understand seems like more of a place to put it these systems have to be stationary for the entire duration of Fire it's basically just a atgm on tracks they do have a man portable version North Korea makes bulsae3 which is based off of the Soviet fagot with upgraded guidance instead of wire guided
So, a "Bullseye Four," is it...? Aptly named.
We'll soon see how well it holds up, or doesn't, against 155mm shells.
Would all the nameplates on the Bilsae-4s have to be changed out to Russian or do the Russians have to learn Korean? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Possible RF contracted DPRK personell to operate it.
I'm guessing China dropped men and equipment off on the way to Belarus to do their recent training.
why did you put that in the title if it wasn't spotted? or am i confused? people will only see the title and move from there.
Likely taken out by a newer Russian kornet variant, or the LMUR missile fired by a KA-52 or Mi-28 gunship. Good hit.
Maybe the complete system wasn't available in March, so the NOKs sent just the missile box and controls and the Rooskies put it on some platform of their own. So it might be a Korean missile but not a Korean system that launched it. It looks rather too green for it to be in March, yes. I think there are a lot of problems with the provenance of the vid.