The thing is for first lives it’s probably their first time playing the game, and I’m sure foxy wants to get them hooked to the game. Making it hard to reborn on the first life won’t hook the new player but will make them play something else and not come back to the game. Either making it easier or keeping it as it is, is the best way to get new players to actually enjoy a game and to actually have fun.
I'm fully aware of this which is why I said a cap of 10 billion on the freons and fire blasters would be fair when the original cap was 500M. The mines with the cell furnaces are a little too powerful for early game rendering a regular setup completely useless until the billions. I'm asking for minor nerfs not impossible mode BECAUSE it doesn't need to discourage new players. I know when I started it took a hot second but I had fun and continued anyway because of the extra content such as pvp and decor. Which this new mh could also use more of now.
I say that the Schrodingers need to be balanced for the first life. I fee like research points are too easy to get. I think the research furnaces get buffed. I feel like the first life should be an experience, and not a breeze.
I feel like the freon blast upgrader should only remove fire. I feel like the game needs to just be more challenging. I feel like looping shouldn't really be useful except for blasters and stars. Also, the digital ore cleaners had a cap of 10 trillion at one point, which was ridiculous
Sprite Cranberry man making Freon just remove fire would increase the difficulty for life one very much. And the digitals got nerfed and was basically replaced with the 5 Qn serpentine upgrader. Probably making Freon just remove fire would have to make the other loop able shop items like way up high and digital get a somewhat bigger but not as big ore cap.
Yes you can still ESPECIALLY when welders zappers and other items could be used. It's a bit slower now but I'm sure you can. Of course schrodingers are faster though
miners haven 2016: omg an overlord from BBB loop miners haven 2020: oh, i hit S+10000... didn't even realize. *reborns* GOD DAMNIT I DIDN'T SKIP 20 LIVES
past Blockay: If you get an Astral Predicter for your first rebirth you might as well just quit current Blockay **gets Astral Predicter on first rebirth and quits** he's a man of focus, commitment and sheer hecking will.
My dumbass took all summer because i just used ol faithful and that 54T cell furnace. And my first reborn was a massive diamond mine....... the ultimate bruh moment
I agree that the first lives are extremely easy. When looking back at what berezaa did to shop items years ago, I don't remember many changes to the actual upgraders or furnaces. (I know he added in those crate shop items, however those are now locked behind life barriers). Recently I also added in later shop upgraders, but those were focused on the more expensive side to the shop, because as I was seeing if 25DD was possible on life one for a future third sacrifice update, it used to not be all that possible without extreme luck, which I never take as a reason to make something hard. If it requires insane luck, then it's not something to be expected all players should have to do just to progress. Nerfing some of the caps may be a good solution but we still need to take in consideration about 25DD on life 1. Looking back though, I think the early lives started getting easier when berezaa made rebirth prices not raise subtly, but also when he buffed all the ore values to mines. When he raised the shop mine ore value for a majority of mines, I feel like that probably made cell furnaces dominate the beginning of the game even more than they used to. Since next update is focused on the rebirthing mechanics, I'll see if there's anything we can do about the scaling or rebirth price for all lives, because right now we do need to raise the max rebirth price because people skip lives at insane speeds. While the game is about rebirthing, berezaa's talked to us about ways of slowing players down, and I think we should be doing more things that do slow players down, whether that's done with a higher rebirth price (which inevitably raises your 20 skip price), or nerfing some items we know are responsible for this, such as Void Drive. Yo but with that, I suggest you try rebirthing with 25DD on life 1. It's actually pretty fun to do, the setup you need I guarantee may take up a majority of your base. It took me hours to try to get 25DD on life 1.
I'll try the challenge. And also, the two main things I'd recommend JUST for the first starting life portion of the shop is cutting the freon blast upgrader and maybe the fire one cap down a bit. Also slightly increasing the rb price even just double is good. Slightly lowering the ore values for shop mines would also be a good idea. Massive gold mine ore value strangely enough is bad though. I might try this again but doing a uncut version and just speedrunning with playerpoints not being involved
I know getting DD isn't very hard, but what do you think is harder between getting 25DD at life 1 with the actual objects (not counting the objects that are probably going to be added in the third sac update) or getting 25Qn in 2017?
Been rewatching old series so, a new series when reincarnation comes out would be awesome!also can’t wait for the big update I’m on life S+70 and it will be the perfect time for all the new evos and other new reborn items
BlockayBurn that’s what I’m trying to do still haven’t gotten a Newtonium mine or a quantum clockwork but Ik In the end not skipping will help when do you recommend to start skipping?
Me (a noob) whenever I get anything from a box in the game: wow this is really nice and helpful Him whenever he gets anything from a box: yeah it’s whatever
Easy way to rebirth: open a ton of crates and click npcs daily. 2: Use ion fields on ol’ Faithful ores. 3: Use schrodinger evaluators. 4: Use exotics and vintages.
@@contruq they made it so hard to get fusion and evolved items. so if your luck is bad enough it will get to the point where it is literally impossible to rebirth
@@YorBASES ive done this twice over the course of over 3 years as a axtual series. The previous life one was on a completely different version of the game and this was to see how easy life 1 was which it was easy. MH+ would be the same shit just a reskin. I dont intent just to post mh much less not great spinoffs of it
@@BlockayBurn well it actually has alot more content then you think. More reborns, sacrifices, exotics, enchantments, memes ect. I agree that the beginning is really quick but does get more grindier later on (and updates published more frequently). But I respect you not wanted to post a spinoff of a game you enjoy and have been playing for a long time, just wanted to see you post a funny playthough of it. Anyways, I enjoy your content hope, hope your not life 10,000 by next episode lmao (if do any other video on this).
Dude, nice. In the new Miner's Haven Reincarnation I am new as well and I already got a gigantic mine that is actully 2 mines combined we got 1 Uranium, over 20 Iron and silver droppers, and several coals and coppers.
@@Lensys000 I remember playing miners haven in 2015 on a trash account and I had crystal mines and some furnace I forgot. I wonder how much money it's made lmao
![Miner's Haven Life 1 Speedrun (7:48) [World Record]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XQAxkQDhh48/mqdefault.jpg)
The thing is for first lives it’s probably their first time playing the game, and I’m sure foxy wants to get them hooked to the game. Making it hard to reborn on the first life won’t hook the new player but will make them play something else and not come back to the game. Either making it easier or keeping it as it is, is the best way to get new players to actually enjoy a game and to actually have fun.
I'm fully aware of this which is why I said a cap of 10 billion on the freons and fire blasters would be fair when the original cap was 500M. The mines with the cell furnaces are a little too powerful for early game rendering a regular setup completely useless until the billions. I'm asking for minor nerfs not impossible mode BECAUSE it doesn't need to discourage new players. I know when I started it took a hot second but I had fun and continued anyway because of the extra content such as pvp and decor. Which this new mh could also use more of now.
I say that the Schrodingers need to be balanced for the first life. I fee like research points are too easy to get. I think the research furnaces get buffed. I feel like the first life should be an experience, and not a breeze.
@@BlockayBurn it's been 500 B for like 2 years tf you saying
I feel like the freon blast upgrader should only remove fire. I feel like the game needs to just be more challenging. I feel like looping shouldn't really be useful except for blasters and stars. Also, the digital ore cleaners had a cap of 10 trillion at one point, which was ridiculous
Sprite Cranberry man making Freon just remove fire would increase the difficulty for life one very much. And the digitals got nerfed and was basically replaced with the 5 Qn serpentine upgrader. Probably making Freon just remove fire would have to make the other loop able shop items like way up high and digital get a somewhat bigger but not as big ore cap.
Blockay: "you don't need Schrödingers for your first life.
Also Blockay but 30sec later: "let's make a Schrödinger setup
Yes you can still ESPECIALLY when welders zappers and other items could be used. It's a bit slower now but I'm sure you can. Of course schrodingers are faster though
He meant when you could use Welders on your first life.
mh 2015 : i got my first rebirth YAYAYAY mh 2020: meh 100k lives i want to die
mh 2015: haha i have 2 rebirths im the best player
mh2020: ugh, still S+1967 lives, not enough to get (extremely OP reborn item)
miners haven 2016: omg an overlord from BBB loop
miners haven 2020: oh, i hit S+10000... didn't even realize. *reborns* GOD DAMNIT I DIDN'T SKIP 20 LIVES
@@realultraformerlyultranact6542 S+2k isnt alot , grind more!!!
Me in 2017 in Miner's Haven: *have not reborn*
Me in 2020 in Miner's Haven: *still have not reborn cuz i forgot the account password* (R.I.P)
Noice
"Oh, great, my base is black."
past Blockay: If you get an Astral Predicter for your first rebirth you might as well just quit
current Blockay **gets Astral Predicter on first rebirth and quits**
he's a man of focus, commitment and sheer hecking will.
Miner’s haven then: impossible.
Miner’s haven now: reality can be whatever I want.
Bro its crazy how now you could rebirth in 20 mins but when i played in 2015 it took me 2 months
Given i was a dumbass
I'm sure it would still take a hot second for a newbie but I'm sure 20 minutes is quite quick even for someone who knows what they doing
@@BlockayBurn THERES NO FUCKING WAY YOU JUST REPLIED TO ME WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?_€@€2;=:"\$&;×;!.!&!&!o
Don’t worry it probably took me that long too everyone was a noob when they just started.
My dumbass took all summer because i just used ol faithful and that 54T cell furnace. And my first reborn was a massive diamond mine....... the ultimate bruh moment
It took me 2 days
Did you finally upgrade to an i7 instead of that poopy i3 you have been using for ages with your gtx 1060?
i5 with 1050ti still need to upgrade tho
@@BlockayBurn U don't need to upgrade, miners haven pulls alot of fps and internet now
@@tebibyte2357 what
@@BlockayBurn . Me and my gtx 1060 6gb and i7 sometimes gets frame drops like to 55fps which is bad
@@yeay1466 I get that in my Rx 570 too. Sometimes I wish I had a 580 gb
yeah 2015 miners haven for me was hell trying to rebirth to life 2
I agree that the first lives are extremely easy. When looking back at what berezaa did to shop items years ago, I don't remember many changes to the actual upgraders or furnaces. (I know he added in those crate shop items, however those are now locked behind life barriers). Recently I also added in later shop upgraders, but those were focused on the more expensive side to the shop, because as I was seeing if 25DD was possible on life one for a future third sacrifice update, it used to not be all that possible without extreme luck, which I never take as a reason to make something hard. If it requires insane luck, then it's not something to be expected all players should have to do just to progress.
Nerfing some of the caps may be a good solution but we still need to take in consideration about 25DD on life 1.
Looking back though, I think the early lives started getting easier when berezaa made rebirth prices not raise subtly, but also when he buffed all the ore values to mines.
When he raised the shop mine ore value for a majority of mines, I feel like that probably made cell furnaces dominate the beginning of the game even more than they used to.
Since next update is focused on the rebirthing mechanics, I'll see if there's anything we can do about the scaling or rebirth price for all lives, because right now we do need to raise the max rebirth price because people skip lives at insane speeds. While the game is about rebirthing, berezaa's talked to us about ways of slowing players down, and I think we should be doing more things that do slow players down, whether that's done with a higher rebirth price (which inevitably raises your 20 skip price), or nerfing some items we know are responsible for this, such as Void Drive.
Yo but with that, I suggest you try rebirthing with 25DD on life 1. It's actually pretty fun to do, the setup you need I guarantee may take up a majority of your base. It took me hours to try to get 25DD on life 1.
I love where this is going mate, finally a damn challenge
I'll try the challenge. And also, the two main things I'd recommend JUST for the first starting life portion of the shop is cutting the freon blast upgrader and maybe the fire one cap down a bit. Also slightly increasing the rb price even just double is good. Slightly lowering the ore values for shop mines would also be a good idea. Massive gold mine ore value strangely enough is bad though. I might try this again but doing a uncut version and just speedrunning with playerpoints not being involved
Nobody:
Blockay Burn: Watch me do it again
Man : I survived Russian Roulette with 5 rounds
Man : Watch me do it again
What is the miner and furnace thing at 5:05 called?
babbidy babbidy bab, PUT THE MONEY IN THE BAG
I would have liked to see u speed run to life 100 on that account with a timer on the bottom left for a series
You gotta remember that you've got to get 25DD for 3rd Sacrifice
Clean the dust off of your pc. It really helps dude. Your ventillators probably cant cool down your things so pls clean the udst
I’ve waited for this day to come
I know getting DD isn't very hard, but what do you think is harder between getting 25DD at life 1 with the actual objects (not counting the objects that are probably going to be added in the third sac update) or getting 25Qn in 2017?
25DD bc in 2017 ore colliders existed and those were balanced right?
@@jetnyan2348 oh yeah, true. Those things were op af at that time
Been rewatching old series so, a new series when reincarnation comes out would be awesome!also can’t wait for the big update I’m on life S+70 and it will be the perfect time for all the new evos and other new reborn items
We'll see thanks and gl on the evol grind. I would recommend not skippin for hella items
BlockayBurn that’s what I’m trying to do still haven’t gotten a Newtonium mine or a quantum clockwork but Ik In the end not skipping will help when do you recommend to start skipping?
Quinn League umm probably at around life 5000-10000
@@hellomoto6300 yes
Anime Is LIFE!!! Damn you sure that’s sounds hella late
Me (a noob) whenever I get anything from a box in the game: wow this is really nice and helpful
Him whenever he gets anything from a box: yeah it’s whatever
Rebirth prices go up 25 Qn now at start life. 25 to 50 to 75 to 100 Qn, etc
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY U UPLOADEDDDD
What type of droppers are those?
blinged badge giver specifically states that you can only use it in public servers
Blockay: 1st life is too easy
Blockay when he does the 3rd sac: 1st life is hard
i swear to god i watched this yesterday, but it says it was made 2 hours ago. am i tripping or
It might have just been re-uploaded for some reason, maybe an error in the video? I'm not sure.
maybe
Damn
Yes good
Hey there was a big update reincarnation do you plan on doing a 2020 series?
Oh it's the annual starting over in MH series
2015 setups: uses every shop item ever made
2020 setups: a ore collider 3 upgraders teslas and void Midas line ez cent
I can confirm, I am doing something *majorly* wrong
i randomly remembered this so much nostalgia
awesome content
You could use box man, codes, iron mine chan, and tree to get an even faster rebirth then get pirate loot collector for money
The good ol days man
zamn
Yo, i wish the freon limit was still 500B. Only 120 - 130 B now
Easy way to rebirth: open a ton of crates and click npcs daily. 2: Use ion fields on ol’ Faithful ores. 3: Use schrodinger evaluators. 4: Use exotics and vintages.
i used cell furnaces until life 70, im so glad i switched to a real setup
LOL
*Me being on sacrifice life 1: oh I can copy him*
lol thats what i did
I bet foxy was mainly thinking about third sac
hey I was gonna ask if you could possibly make a tutorial on ore cannons?
use them 5 times and then dont use
the fiery item the flame cant be put out or it wont upgrade
uhhh i need help....... i sorta used this like a tutorial and with the fire-blast upgrader it keeps making my ores disappear! PLEASE HELP!!!!
lol
fire destroys stuff
Does Miners Haven still have weapons? I miss getting me and my friends to arm up with guns and swords and attacking other people’s bases
You cant kill people in their own base though
Blockay : 1st life is too easy!
Me : uhhh , pls help me. Im on 4th life.
me: pls help i only have life S+2.4k ;-;
@@alxphx damn im at life 20k Rn vibing to my enchanted items
@@contruq they made it so hard to get fusion and evolved items. so if your luck is bad enough it will get to the point where it is literally impossible to rebirth
@@alxphx im life 24k got 6 superst items and got many enchantment items
@@alxphx yeah it's hard, only with a hard grind it's possible, and yeah fuck it.
I'm wasting my time doing solo rebirths
ah yes
*the* *real* *blockayburn*
noobs : place things down because it looks cool
blockay : place things down because it looks cool
I got 2nd life by using osmium and thigamajig. Just those. AFK for a few hours.
Everyone's gangsta till they get a massive diamond mine for rebirth
thank the yt recomendation for this lost game that i was trying to find
my first ever rebirth in 2015 took me like 2 months LOL and i got a frozen justice
Is it only me or does the thumbnail look kinda like some zoomed in picture of like a super modern motherboard in a computer
Just play miners haven plus like its just so easy.
That's the reason I'm not playing it
BlockayBurn same Miners haven play rates are going down a bit because ppl don’t wanna be challenged
BlockayBurn but you’ve done this series for like the fifth time now. Not tryna say you have too but it just seems like your recycling content is all.
@@YorBASES ive done this twice over the course of over 3 years as a axtual series. The previous life one was on a completely different version of the game and this was to see how easy life 1 was which it was easy. MH+ would be the same shit just a reskin. I dont intent just to post mh much less not great spinoffs of it
@@BlockayBurn well it actually has alot more content then you think. More reborns, sacrifices, exotics, enchantments, memes ect. I agree that the beginning is really quick but does get more grindier later on (and updates published more frequently). But I respect you not wanted to post a spinoff of a game you enjoy and have been playing for a long time, just wanted to see you post a funny playthough of it. Anyways, I enjoy your content hope, hope your not life 10,000 by next episode lmao (if do any other video on this).
Dude, nice.
In the new Miner's Haven Reincarnation I am new as well and I already got a gigantic mine that is actully 2 mines combined we got 1 Uranium, over 20 Iron and silver droppers, and several coals and coppers.
Boring
i started playing miners haven a year or so ago
im still on first life
How tf are you still in 1 life ??????
@@Lensys000 I remember playing miners haven in 2015 on a trash account and I had crystal mines and some furnace I forgot. I wonder how much money it's made lmao
you should try miners haven plus it has a lot of sacrifices and more items to use
what ore
is that
Badge doesn’t work on private island
"There's gonna be a huge update coming out to Miners Haven pretty soon"
2 years ago
I’m pretty sure this video came out pre-reincarnation
You beat me by 1 year 4 months and something weeks in 2018
hello when you back?
In 2020 u just get boomite mine and coal mine and get multiple easy rebirths
2:12
a little choppy?
*I HAVE 5 FPS ON NORMAL ON MY IPAD AND THAT TO ME IS A LITTLE CHOPPY 😌*
I got QDD first life the difficultly really needs to be stepped up. this is without any exotics or executive
h o w
@@watermelonplayz9600 2 years late but he definitely spent a few hours just slowly saving for the upgrades that increase ore value
BABABBABABABA👍
Bruh when I rebirth orbital's was not in the shop
This game is mining science
Freon blast now has 128B cap
do u know when reincarnation is coming out
Jason Niu I believe foxy said it was in early to mid spring so probably in late March or early April
It might be fine as it is because of the third sacrifice
10:09 scanner?
Miners haven or miners haven plus?
this is miners haven
what the its so hard to rebirth past first life ;-;
Is is bad that it took me 2 years for my first life? I literally got to 2nd yesterday.
Yes.
@@BlockayBurn imagine replying to a comment on a one month old video. What, do you actually care about your viewers or something? smh
Anybody else mad that they spent a hole day getting to trillion to then see this
The og Dababb
We all remember this old acc
Hey do miner haven plus gameplay
I did the same setup on my 3rd slot but I added more upgraders and less BOOM BOOM
“i guess i can be lil uzi now”
"Oh great my base is black"
The update should come out this month
Make a series on Miners Haven Plus
The 3rd sacrifice needs 1DD in first life
Ultimate shield, a bench.
Yeah it took me 2days to rebirth in 2021 its quite confusing and im on mobile
please continue this dad
totally easy until... you click new life (life 2)
it took 3 or something years for me to get to just life 3
imagine casually loging in to a acc u made in 2011
Me after 1min in new Slot: 1mil
I remember it took me 4 months to rebirth the first time
I suffered for my first life because I only relied on cell furnaces
how dumb you need to be
I used this video to get the statue of knowledge along with the achievement
same lmao
6:18 his cash is cursed
try Miners Haven Plus, its an amazing game that added hundreds of new stuff
you meant: a game thhat made everything 1000000000x easier
its not amazing, its complicated and too easy
@@watermelonplayz9600 ehhh
@@loukianos6328 its ok, but its way too easy
i see what ive brrn doing wrong now i forgot to put the giant rocks lemme spam some on my base and get DD
U cant get the badge in a private server
Epic