as a long time fan of this franchise i'm very happy that SMT isnt a big thing here in India nor is it officially available on most systems here, 'cause boy this comment section is cringe, and the irony is that this is probably the only JRPG franchise that actually does proper justice to Hinduism lore and designs, these people just assume things in face value. I'm just here happy af to see a new Shiva 3D model in years, and they are using the Devil summoner pose !
Indeed, in the context of the story, there's really nothing disrespectful that I can see. Shiva is just doing his job, without malice, without being turned evil. From what I can tell, Hindu practitioners believe Shiva is not a sadistic destroyer of good, but just the natural step of tearing things down so they can be built back better, even sparing things that are still good. Which is exactly how SMT portrays him. And you're not fighting him out of disrespect either, you're simply letting him know that the time for destruction is not yet. The last point of contention seems to be calling Shiva a "demon" -- which has always been an awkward translation in the SMT franchise (depending on the game they can go by "akuma", "majū", or "nakami", the latter of which being a pun that means _"friend god")_ and in English is actually meant to play on the Greek word "daemon" which means "spirit"
Honestly, if you know the context, it seems that Shiva is given the most respect in this game. He is literally the strongest enemy and the secret final boss with the best music in the game.
I guess some people in the comments have never seen smt before. They beat god in the previous game. I’m not sure why shiva who is one of the most consistent ones in the series would be off limits lol. He’s the toughest fight in the game outside of dlc too
And in the context of the story, there's really nothing disrespectful that I can see. Shiva is just doing his job, without malice, without being turned evil. From what I can tell, Hindu practitioners believe Shiva is not a sadistic destroyer of good, but just the natural step of tearing things down so they can be built back better, even sparing things that are still good. Which is exactly how SMT portrays him. And you're not fighting him out of disrespect either, you're simply letting him know that the time for destruction is not yet. The last point of contention seems to be calling Shiva a "demon" -- which has always been an awkward translation in the SMT franchise (depending on the game they can go by "akuma", "majū", or "nakami", the latter of which being a pun that means _"friend god")_ and in English is actually meant to play on the Greek word "daemon" which means "spirit"
@@TARINunit9 I am neither offended nor Hindu, but I understand their position. Their deity is being depicted as an enemy to be defeated by the protagonist, who the player self-inserts as.
@@joshua7015 And yet Shiva got way better treatment than pretty much every other religion. How do you think the Danish and Swedes feel, about a game where Odin is reimagined as a power-hungry kidnapper?
Just by looking at the comments I’m curious. Do any of the people crying about this realize basically the entirety of this series revolves fighting gods from many different world religions? To boot that you even kill the major gods like “god” from Christianity, so beating shiva isn’t a stretch at all?
That first note hits so different than any other song. You truly feel the realization thay Shiva is indeed not like anything the MC has faced up to this point.
Shiva: "I am Shiva the benevolent God of Destruction" Nahobino: "...How is that benevolent?" Shiva: "You dare to question my words mortal?!" Nahobino: "No, I was just..." Shiva: "Not only that, you are arrogant enough to interrupt my monologue?!" Nahobino: "No Lord, I actually..." Shiva: "HAKAI!"
Shiva despite the fact you were a total pain in my ass for two days. You force me to use all my items, all my demons and probably it is the most fun battle in a RPG
Damn are there Shiva fanatics in every boss fight video or is it just this one? Like its just a game not real hell this game isn't the first to make you fight Shiva just look at Granblue Fantasy they did it too and made him sexy to boot do ya'll complain about that one too?
I got to beat him at around level 95, but hoo boy did that take a lot of trial and error. I'm surprised you didn't use any dispel charms or Dekaja. It would have gotten rid of the defense debuff and saved you some MP. I think what made this battle so much harder is how much they inflated the MP costs of Luster Candy, Debilitate and Mediarahan.
Hindu here. I make fun of the Bible on a daily basis, can people please stop getting offended about deity depictions? That Mahadev model is actually pretty nice. Looks kind of like the character in Devon Ke Dev… Mahadev, the show. Haven’t got the game, hope Atlus releases an Optimization patch so that it doesn’t blow my switch to smithereens.
@@leanooliveira Can Christians you imagin hold with murdering their God and Maria because the game didn't depict Jesus? Can you hold with Bishnu beaten instead of Shiva?
My man over here just beating the hardest boss in the game, just chillin and everyone and their mother here is calling for cancel culture because of religion... Y'all better chill and leave when you know that one game may insult you. Don't hate the player, hate the game
Do the people bitching about Shiva not know that this WHOLE series is about fighting mythological creatures and gods, all labeled as demons? You're a little late to the party for one, and y'all got off easy compared to all the other religions that get "disrespected" (the Judeo-Christians and *record scratch* come to mind). NOTHING is sacred in SMT. Or fiction in general. All your myths and legends and even deities are inspiration for games, movies, books, etc.
@@leanooliveira Because Atlus doesn't feel like putting him in. Or they think they'd get actual backlash from Christians over it, which I doubt given that I'm pretty sure Jesus is in a fighting game, and Dante's Inferno, the game based on the book of the same name, had to manufacture outrage for there to be any. Atlus being ignorant to the majority of the world being secular doesn't make depicting people's gods disrespectful.
@@leanooliveira They had years to receive backlash. Shiva's been around since probably before the PS2 era. You're 2 decades too late to be whining about his presence in SMT with damn near every other noteworthy mythological figure.
Shut up, internet should be made available for everyone to expand their knowledge. Though I get your point but its mostly due to the lack of exposure to foreign cultures. Really saddens how we're made to prioritize religion over anything else in life.
@@espurrseyes42its ignorance to think it's nos disrespectful because the devs know it is. As there's no Jesus to fight or capture in this game. You know why?
@@leanooliveira Because Christians would be butthurt, and for some reason people still care about them. Doesn't make it disrespectful. You just feel disrespected by it, and that's solely on you seeing as you don't see Greeks, Egyptians, and all the other mythologies crying about their gods being depicted in fiction. Don't even get me started on how Shiva has been with this series for a LONG time now. And yet mofos are only bitching about him now when he's MUCH better depicted than he was prior.
@@espurrseyes42 and why they would be? Because it's unrespctful hahaha and the same happens with Shiva here. Greeks are christians and Egyptians are islamics, so they dont give a dam about those gods being here. But Shiva is a god of a living religion.
I am not Hindu but I am Indian and I find that the idiots bitching about Shiva being in this game are all ridiculous. I would actually love to see a manga/anime based on Hindu mythology with gods and demons like Ganesh, Kali, Ravana etc. I know the Japanese would do a great job of making it good and thrilling
@@espada9000 Oh? I kept his supports alive and they could barely damage me and Shiva only used Tandiva once because of it, which is the only move that was actually dangerous. The only ally you have to kill is the snake and then it's GG because you can tank everything else that's not Tandiva. Just a battle of attrition, rather than having to constantly guard against Tandiva or depend on enduring souls.
Such amazing music and awesome fight. Even fully prepared one turn was all it took to nearly waste me. Thankfully I was basically one last rally from winning (magatsuhi critical) but damn if it wasn't exciting from start to finish. Also Shiva's depiction in this game is great.
Alot of people are unhappy with Hindus in the comments which is understandable but one thing I would like to address that majority of Indians have no idea about this kind of game even exists. Nor ever played it.
@@espada9000 no, i used cleopatra, beelzebub, and mother harlot. everyone in my party nulled phys except beelzebub, and i was able to heal and fully buff and debuff
being a hindu and seeing lord shiva in a game, is actually pretty cool... besides, caring too much about mannerisms, presentation, dialogues and such is pointless considering he's taken here as a video game character, I can't expect from a video game character... too much of a hassle...
yeah. some boollywood movies showed indian gods in even worse state but people don't mind that. at least smt games aren't as popular as western games in india thankfully. :) btw is that kiyotaka in your pf? i haven't seen that photo in manga is that a fan art?
It's nice to see people getting to know our gods and culture. Keep in mind we've been praying to them since time immemorial. So any kind of bending of facts or badmouthing won't be tolerated. Other than that I'm looking forward to people outside our land learn about hindu gods.
This is super cool how they added Lord Shiva in it and the other Gods as well. Though the bars that cover half of the screen are irritating and the lack of longer fight scenes without lots of blood are disappointing. I have to admit the creators of this game have balls to add Hindu gods to it. Hope that it doesn’t get cancelled because of Hindu’s. I would love The good old fashioned Kratos fight the hindu gods one by one and the final boss fight to be Maa’ Kali The Death Goddess. Kratos must fight Satan as well and in his full dragon form from chapter revelations.What would be the ultimate boss fight would be fighting God. Now that would be epic beyond comprehension.👍
guys think about it if you can fight the almighty true YHWH (being dead in this game) then any idol can get it no offense i dont like we couldnt even see YHWH
Anyone knows hot to farm exp late game? Im 89 and temple of eternity mobs give almost no exp. Besides trying to find mitama, theres no much way to level up from 90 upwards
My team was: MC with Null phys and Odin essence for reflect elec, Tao(my stupid ass relyed on her not knowing certain...things) with null phys on her, Fafnir with null fire for that coverage, and Odin because his reflect elec matched nicely with everyone else's nulls. Idk what's the best team to use, but that was my main party for it, and as long as you remember to kill ALL of the adds when he prepares Magatsuhi so he only has two press turns to work with. Such a good fight IMO.
This game offends me very much . . . . . . . . . . . . . Because I have yet to see any New World culture deities making their appearance and becoming the boss
Bold of them to use Shiva as he is depicted in my culture, along with the other gods, wasn't even offensive at all I already see angrier Indians in the comments, I'm gonna ask you if think Shiva, the creator and destroyer, really cares about his cameo in Shin Megami Tensei 5, a rather mediocre game My advice is don't take offense to something so small, because I doubt a God would
"Mediocre Game" Passive aggressiveness someone's salty. If you really wanna be mad go see Nocturne's Shiva where he makes a whole bunch of stereotypical sounds .
@@aswadsheikh8051 get out of here you dont know anything ,you are muslim obviously you dont know anything and you will say like that, I can say thay for your Allah as well. Everything what is there is Hinduism is factual and real. Dont start your propaganda over here it wont work. Hinduism is absolutely real
What kind of universe have they made in this game where you can fight Shiva and win ? Or is this one of those time where Shiva let's one of his devotees win just to make them happy ?
Wait how is this disrespectful, I'm Hindu and this feels fine, Shiva is lord of destruction, his role is to smite all things and beings that have outlived their purpose, that way brahma can create something else, this is what Shiva is said to be in Hinduism, this portrayal of Shiva is natural
@anshumanmishra3851 then why do you have Kakashi a stand in for the one of the many dietys of Japanese culture as your profile pic kind of disrespectful to have a wrongful depiction of another countries dietys and claim it a yours even if they are portrayed as a mortal
Girls fighting against lord Shiva lol , there is not a single opponent on this multi universe who can fight Shiva , he just need to open his third eye nd world will start collapse..... Shiva don't even need to come infront of for this ..... Sure some day u will realise Shiva nd may your brain dead at same moment for playing with God of destruction ❤
@@royalkumar795 pk movie had a fight with god no right here you are killing a god to farm exp there is a difference. See im not blaming there style or thinking but ask your elders or anyone from your country they will say the same
@@divyanshpandey8703 you are not killing here, you are challenging the god here, don't ever think this boss fight is gonna be any easy this god show no mercy mm just look at level of those parties they are all level 99
@@royalkumar795 man either you want to disrespect a god by fighting him, okay your wish may be next generation don't respect any things from the past okay, good going modernisation true as hell, yeah kill the gods 👌👌
What the hell this game man shiva is most important hindu god and they made him boss fight this game definitely going to banned and shiva is most powerful god no one can defeat him
This game has its own lore Basically to simplify one great God usurped all other gods and threw away their powers which is referred to as a knowledge and hid it in the garden of eden(derived from christianity) one eve and adam ate the apple they forever tied the knowledge of the gods to themselves, when a being whose knowledge had been stripped away comes into contact with the human that holds their knowledge they become what is known as a nahobino, essentially a being with the same power as the great God that usurped all others The protagonist is a nahobino and Shiva even without his knowledge is one of the hardest bosses in game
Basically.... Shiva powerful enough to go toe to toe with a being that is basically supposed to be on another power level and if that doesent honor then I don't know what will
@@PenguinsAreColdish that's more gameplay rather than lore, and we can confirm that the protags do indeed have cannon teams, see the demi fiend fight, so really we do always use a team, it's just that gameplay wise, we have the freedom to use it
in India, Shiva is a major god, where his illustrations, idols made to describe Shiva is treated with utmost respect. You cant fight Shiva and this is total disrespect. gonna file a case over this insensitive content.
The premise of the game is that the abrahamic god who they call by their name is dead You fight YHVH as a boss in 2 of the games YHVH is a literal tyrant, who in 1 genocides humanity twice and attempts to do it a third time in 2 And its made by the Japanese, who also include their mythological figures, and in this game their heavenly gods have died The fact they made Shiva the strongest non DLC boss in the game is a testament to his status as the destroyer God They also don't make him out to be evil
demon is just a broad term for the mythological stuff in this game, it doesn't ACTUALLY mean they are referring to the bad types of demon. an example of something like this would be the pokemon in pokemon, they just named it pokemon so it would be easier to indicate the entire roster of pokemon.
This is offense to all indian and followers of lord shiva , this why people who dont know oyher country religion should use there respect God or mythical creatures/ characters for game or anything else .
I find it odd how modern man seems to want to defeat the divine and master God as opposed to how ancient man would battle with God and it would lead to enlightenment and understanding of the relationship between Man and the divine. Om Namashivaya!
Don't expect other countries to see Shiva the same way Indians do. This is far from disrespectful. If anything they understand Shiva better than some in this comment section who think he is the God of creation.
Are you fucking kidding me,U beat Mahadev,Lord Ganesha and Maa Kali with what these puny robots anf demons,I mean what an insult to Mythology,this game disgust me
Chill man it's a video game, it is FICTITIOUS and not real, in other games you are allowed to kill humans that does not mean you are allowed to or the game is telling you to kill people in real life because that is also not stated in any law or moral and ethical code anywhere around the world, games are not supposed to depict what is real but a fictitious imaginary what if scenario. Learn to separate reality from fiction
as a long time fan of this franchise i'm very happy that SMT isnt a big thing here in India nor is it officially available on most systems here, 'cause boy this comment section is cringe, and the irony is that this is probably the only JRPG franchise that actually does proper justice to Hinduism lore and designs, these people just assume things in face value. I'm just here happy af to see a new Shiva 3D model in years, and they are using the Devil summoner pose !
Ok Mayoguy sending people @ ur home.
i live in Alaska from today onwards
Indeed, in the context of the story, there's really nothing disrespectful that I can see. Shiva is just doing his job, without malice, without being turned evil. From what I can tell, Hindu practitioners believe Shiva is not a sadistic destroyer of good, but just the natural step of tearing things down so they can be built back better, even sparing things that are still good. Which is exactly how SMT portrays him. And you're not fighting him out of disrespect either, you're simply letting him know that the time for destruction is not yet. The last point of contention seems to be calling Shiva a "demon" -- which has always been an awkward translation in the SMT franchise (depending on the game they can go by "akuma", "majū", or "nakami", the latter of which being a pun that means _"friend god")_ and in English is actually meant to play on the Greek word "daemon" which means "spirit"
Well, I think its disrespectful and they know it because they didn't do the same to Jesus
@@leanooliveiramate, I'm indian, ain't no offense here. Smt portrayed our gods with excellence and grace. Particularly shiva.
I've yet to see anyone in the comment section actually complaining about this. It's just people bitching about the idea of someone bitching.
Ever heard of scrolling down? Literally the replies right in the comment below yours
I am an Indian , and i want this game, i sense no offense here, infact Shiva is my family's patron God and i am happy he is represented here
Honestly, if you know the context, it seems that Shiva is given the most respect in this game. He is literally the strongest enemy and the secret final boss with the best music in the game.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928
Second strongest enemy actually, the strongest one would be Demi-Fiend (although he's DLC).
Sadly your cows aren't here.
YHVH is a better God
@@irsshill4502 just asking I was curious are YHVH and stephen same person
I don't think Shiva would really care if you beat him in a video game
Probably has way more important things to concern himself with lmao.
Jesus wouldn't care too, so, where is he?
@@leanooliveira As the ultimate persona of the Persona 3 Protagonist.
@@leanooliveira Also, you literally fight and kill YHVH (Christian god) In SMT 2 and SMT 4 Apocalypse
@@laravioliiii2832 theres no Jesus
I guess some people in the comments have never seen smt before. They beat god in the previous game. I’m not sure why shiva who is one of the most consistent ones in the series would be off limits lol. He’s the toughest fight in the game outside of dlc too
And in the context of the story, there's really nothing disrespectful that I can see. Shiva is just doing his job, without malice, without being turned evil. From what I can tell, Hindu practitioners believe Shiva is not a sadistic destroyer of good, but just the natural step of tearing things down so they can be built back better, even sparing things that are still good. Which is exactly how SMT portrays him. And you're not fighting him out of disrespect either, you're simply letting him know that the time for destruction is not yet. The last point of contention seems to be calling Shiva a "demon" -- which has always been an awkward translation in the SMT franchise (depending on the game they can go by "akuma", "majū", or "nakami", the latter of which being a pun that means _"friend god")_ and in English is actually meant to play on the Greek word "daemon" which means "spirit"
Probably just due to people seeing as disrespectful to fight their dieties
@@TARINunit9 I am neither offended nor Hindu, but I understand their position. Their deity is being depicted as an enemy to be defeated by the protagonist, who the player self-inserts as.
@@joshua7015 And yet Shiva got way better treatment than pretty much every other religion. How do you think the Danish and Swedes feel, about a game where Odin is reimagined as a power-hungry kidnapper?
this is japanese game
and beat up japanese goddess in persona3
but persona3 popular in japan
Just by looking at the comments I’m curious. Do any of the people crying about this realize basically the entirety of this series revolves fighting gods from many different world religions? To boot that you even kill the major gods like “god” from Christianity, so beating shiva isn’t a stretch at all?
It's just how Indians are. This is nothing new from are country which is filled with religious fanatics.
@@ajeshtantri9816 True
@@ajeshtantri9816 thankful this game didn't put any moon and star gods , they would burn their House
Do they beat any of the primary Shinto gods in SMT too ? Can you beat Ameterasu or Fujin ?
@@heatengine9283 bruh… there’s many in all the SMT games…
That first note hits so different than any other song. You truly feel the realization thay Shiva is indeed not like anything the MC has faced up to this point.
The only other thing that gave me such chills was how Big Louis didn't have any fight music at all, just continuing the music from the cutscene before
Shiva: "I am Shiva the benevolent God of Destruction" Nahobino: "...How is that benevolent?" Shiva: "You dare to question my words mortal?!" Nahobino: "No, I was just..." Shiva: "Not only that, you are arrogant enough to interrupt my monologue?!" Nahobino: "No Lord, I actually..." Shiva: "HAKAI!"
Now we know why Nahobino proceeded to remove all gods from existence
I was about to show a pointless reaction on the lore and his actual nature, but the joke is pretty good tho...
So glad I'm not the only one who used Yoshitsune until the endgame. Truly the most underrated demon
He's goated
I don't think he is underrated, in most of the smt and persona saga he is one of the strongest physical demons,
I feel like Yoshitsune was nerfed for this game and overpowered in all Persona games lol
Makes you wonder how a spinoff of this game is bigger than the main game.
Romanceable female characters in a game played by people who never talked to women
smt itself is a spin off tho lol
@@cantufekci23 well yes, having waifus automatically makes it better
Shiva despite the fact you were a total pain in my ass for two days. You force me to use all my items, all my demons and probably it is the most fun battle in a RPG
Damn are there Shiva fanatics in every boss fight video or is it just this one? Like its just a game not real hell this game isn't the first to make you fight Shiva just look at Granblue Fantasy they did it too and made him sexy to boot do ya'll complain about that one too?
I got to beat him at around level 95, but hoo boy did that take a lot of trial and error. I'm surprised you didn't use any dispel charms or Dekaja. It would have gotten rid of the defense debuff and saved you some MP. I think what made this battle so much harder is how much they inflated the MP costs of Luster Candy, Debilitate and Mediarahan.
To be honest,
Shiva irl is so chill he wouldn't mind what happens in a video game
Hindu here. I make fun of the Bible on a daily basis, can people please stop getting offended about deity depictions?
That Mahadev model is actually pretty nice. Looks kind of like the character in Devon Ke Dev… Mahadev, the show. Haven’t got the game, hope Atlus releases an Optimization patch so that it doesn’t blow my switch to smithereens.
And why Jesus is not in the game if its not disrespectful?
actually you can kill YHWH in former series. father of jesus, and you can also kill Maria in this series.
@@seolin4970 YHWH is not Jesus
@@leanooliveirathen what? murdering YHWH is not offensive to Christians?
@@leanooliveira Can Christians you imagin hold with murdering their God and Maria because the game didn't depict Jesus? Can you hold with Bishnu beaten instead of Shiva?
My man over here just beating the hardest boss in the game, just chillin and everyone and their mother here is calling for cancel culture because of religion...
Y'all better chill and leave when you know that one game may insult you. Don't hate the player, hate the game
Why hate the game lol
Do the people bitching about Shiva not know that this WHOLE series is about fighting mythological creatures and gods, all labeled as demons? You're a little late to the party for one, and y'all got off easy compared to all the other religions that get "disrespected" (the Judeo-Christians and *record scratch* come to mind). NOTHING is sacred in SMT. Or fiction in general. All your myths and legends and even deities are inspiration for games, movies, books, etc.
Yes you're right majority of Indians have no idea about this game
Nothing is sacred? And why you dont fight Jesus too in this game, hu?
@@leanooliveira
Because Atlus doesn't feel like putting him in. Or they think they'd get actual backlash from Christians over it, which I doubt given that I'm pretty sure Jesus is in a fighting game, and Dante's Inferno, the game based on the book of the same name, had to manufacture outrage for there to be any. Atlus being ignorant to the majority of the world being secular doesn't make depicting people's gods disrespectful.
@@espurrseyes42 well, they would receive backlash because it's disrespectful as this here with Shiva is
@@leanooliveira
They had years to receive backlash. Shiva's been around since probably before the PS2 era. You're 2 decades too late to be whining about his presence in SMT with damn near every other noteworthy mythological figure.
Bro i feel like I'm walking into the aftermath of a war in the comments halp
as an Indian, certain comments made me cringe and embarrassed.... the ignorance is overwhelming.... cheap and easy accessible internet was a bad idea
Shut up, internet should be made available for everyone to expand their knowledge. Though I get your point but its mostly due to the lack of exposure to foreign cultures. Really saddens how we're made to prioritize religion over anything else in life.
@@rk-iw1in
If only people were actually using it to expand their knowledge rather than spread their own ignorance.
@@espurrseyes42its ignorance to think it's nos disrespectful because the devs know it is. As there's no Jesus to fight or capture in this game. You know why?
@@leanooliveira
Because Christians would be butthurt, and for some reason people still care about them. Doesn't make it disrespectful. You just feel disrespected by it, and that's solely on you seeing as you don't see Greeks, Egyptians, and all the other mythologies crying about their gods being depicted in fiction. Don't even get me started on how Shiva has been with this series for a LONG time now. And yet mofos are only bitching about him now when he's MUCH better depicted than he was prior.
@@espurrseyes42 and why they would be? Because it's unrespctful hahaha and the same happens with Shiva here. Greeks are christians and Egyptians are islamics, so they dont give a dam about those gods being here. But Shiva is a god of a living religion.
War broke out in the comments section
I am the jeet inside of you
It's a videogame people, chill out...
It's not like the end of the world, jeez.
Add jesus and its banned everywhere lol
I am not Hindu but I am Indian and I find that the idiots bitching about Shiva being in this game are all ridiculous. I would actually love to see a manga/anime based on Hindu mythology with gods and demons like Ganesh, Kali, Ravana etc. I know the Japanese would do a great job of making it good and thrilling
Nice fight, but killing Shiva's supports only makes this battle significantly harder
Not for me I say my strategy involves around killing his allies.
@@espada9000 Oh? I kept his supports alive and they could barely damage me and Shiva only used Tandiva once because of it, which is the only move that was actually dangerous. The only ally you have to kill is the snake and then it's GG because you can tank everything else that's not Tandiva. Just a battle of attrition, rather than having to constantly guard against Tandiva or depend on enduring souls.
It's easier if you leave one of his summons alive (not Ananta), that way he won't use his unique attack
I swear you are intentionally trying to prolong this fight as long as humanly possible.
This fight actually takes a while took me like 28 minutes to beat him
Disliked for skipping the amazing animations.
Man the amount of cry babies in the comments who clearly haven't played SMT before lol
Such amazing music and awesome fight. Even fully prepared one turn was all it took to nearly waste me. Thankfully I was basically one last rally from winning (magatsuhi critical) but damn if it wasn't exciting from start to finish. Also Shiva's depiction in this game is great.
Alot of people are unhappy with Hindus in the comments which is understandable but one thing I would like to address that majority of Indians have no idea about this kind of game even exists. Nor ever played it.
im absolutely dreading this fight
its so fun, its a real test to see how good your party is
he was easy as hell lmaooo
@@thermometerman1824 Bet you use Cerberus with his Magatsui ability did you?
@@espada9000 no, i used cleopatra, beelzebub, and mother harlot. everyone in my party nulled phys except beelzebub, and i was able to heal and fully buff and debuff
@@thermometerman1824 I have a similar build as well with physical block.
“Erm I’m not Hindu but this is offensive🤓🤓🤓” get a life
Hush lil bro. Shi happened 2 year ago 🙏
@@S-Grooveyou will not speak in ebonics.
I know you playing in normal mode, in hard mode Shiva is very more powerful
Yeah on Hard Mode he is no joke. Definitely deserves the title God of Destruction here.
I remember when he was easy in DDS 2
God: creates human
humans: Defeats God in a video game
God: 😑 wait that's illegal
He is neither a human nor a demon he is a God, his name Nahobino is taken from two Shinto gods
@@runu4573 i think he's talking about us as the player
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being a hindu and seeing lord shiva in a game, is actually pretty cool... besides, caring too much about mannerisms, presentation, dialogues and such is pointless considering he's taken here as a video game character, I can't expect from a video game character... too much of a hassle...
Do not redeem the card
@@TheRealSkulldozer ?
yeah. some boollywood movies showed indian gods in even worse state but people don't mind that. at least smt games aren't as popular as western games in india thankfully. :)
btw is that kiyotaka in your pf? i haven't seen that photo in manga is that a fan art?
@@rgbeye5039 nah, its a recent ln illustration...
@@user-widktycgah oh a new volume huh. i dropped the novels after 7th one so I didn't know.
This comment section is entertaining.
You did this fight without having the miracle to have your demons use items?!? Bummer, you made it harder than it should have been
he uses items through his demons multiple times
It's nice to see people getting to know our gods and culture. Keep in mind we've been praying to them since time immemorial. So any kind of bending of facts or badmouthing won't be tolerated. Other than that I'm looking forward to people outside our land learn about hindu gods.
Hey man play shin megami tensei digital devil saga 2 it is a lot related to Hinduism gods
@@ofilosofoouumfumante5655 Sure thnx
Shiva is nothing compared to YHVH, repent heathen. Your god is burning in the depths of Gehenna. Alongside the Roman gods.
*Absolute Truth:* Nobody dislikes the Shiva's Theme, that was an literally blasphemy
This is super cool how they added Lord Shiva in it and the other Gods as well. Though the bars that cover half of the screen are irritating and the lack of longer fight scenes without lots of blood are disappointing. I have to admit the creators of this game have balls to add Hindu gods to it. Hope that it doesn’t get cancelled because of Hindu’s. I would love The good old fashioned Kratos fight the hindu gods one by one and the final boss fight to be Maa’ Kali The Death Goddess. Kratos must fight Satan as well and in his full dragon form from chapter revelations.What would be the ultimate boss fight would be fighting God. Now that would be epic beyond comprehension.👍
Shiva’s been in most SMT games this isn’t new
SMT has been around since the 80’s this is going nowhere
You fight the literal God in IV Apocalypse and I think another game.
@@IamJerf those other games are megami tensei 2 and Shin megami tensei 2
God is the final boss for you to fight.
Erm, Shin megami tensei
You fight like 3 different gods as a 'final fight' in this game 😂
guys think about it if you can fight the almighty true YHWH (being dead in this game) then any idol can get it no offense i dont like we couldnt even see YHWH
It's pronounced *[record scratch]* .
Is this on the switch the 60 FPS mod I mean
Game looks cool.
Anyone knows hot to farm exp late game? Im 89 and temple of eternity mobs give almost no exp. Besides trying to find mitama, theres no much way to level up from 90 upwards
A bit late but there's dlcs for it
Oh those 3 nice and this is my first Shin Megami Tensei game
How did you beat Shiva and with what demons?
Put all demons to level 99
My team was: MC with Null phys and Odin essence for reflect elec, Tao(my stupid ass relyed on her not knowing certain...things) with null phys on her, Fafnir with null fire for that coverage, and Odin because his reflect elec matched nicely with everyone else's nulls. Idk what's the best team to use, but that was my main party for it, and as long as you remember to kill ALL of the adds when he prepares Magatsuhi so he only has two press turns to work with.
Such a good fight IMO.
street shitters absolutely seething right now
Yo no one can beat professional pornstars
White people?
Its redeemed
Oh Beauti Shiva
This game offends me very much
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Because I have yet to see any New World culture deities making their appearance and becoming the boss
The christian god is literally the final boss of several of the games in this series
I beat him in 7 min on level 94 u r taking too long on level 99
Play hard mode. Make sure to tell me how much time it took to defeat him
@@tinataneja567 i beat him
On normal and hard
Cool and top. 👍🏻=)👌🏻
This game is made to be banned 😂
Yes kind of offense
🤣😂 switch is not available in India, si banned is out of options
@@abhijeetpandule5102 don't you find any offensive on choota bheam cartoon and Indian TV shows who wrongly shown our God
🤣🤣🤣
Faltu mai ban
Bold of them to use Shiva as he is depicted in my culture, along with the other gods, wasn't even offensive at all
I already see angrier Indians in the comments, I'm gonna ask you if think Shiva, the creator and destroyer, really cares about his cameo in Shin Megami Tensei 5, a rather mediocre game
My advice is don't take offense to something so small, because I doubt a God would
Have you actually played the game and think it's mediocre?
See that's the problem,we are not god
@@satyasnigdhapani8409 neither we can save our brothers..
"Mediocre Game"
Passive aggressiveness someone's salty.
If you really wanna be mad go see Nocturne's Shiva where he makes a whole bunch of stereotypical sounds .
Creator really? I’m not even devout Hindu and I know that’s really wrong.
There is no way you can beat mahadev
Chill bro. I'm Hindu as well. It's just a game. They take mythological beings and put a twist on them.
@@theslickdevil8560 it's not mythological it's real
@@roshandinesh6701 hindu religion is literally mythological unlike Christian or muslim, mythological also includes greek
@@aswadsheikh8051 get out of here you dont know anything ,you are muslim obviously you dont know anything and you will say like that, I can say thay for your Allah as well. Everything what is there is Hinduism is factual and real. Dont start your propaganda over here it wont work. Hinduism is absolutely real
You can't beat Zeus or Thor or Hercules but you do in games so nothing too big, but this game is literally like cheating to win lol . Trash game
What kind of universe have they made in this game where you can fight Shiva and win ?
Or is this one of those time where Shiva let's one of his devotees win just to make them happy ?
Previous games in the series you literally kill judeochristian god, this ain't new
It's a videogame you nerd.
the power of fusion from dragon ball z
@@mefour83 I will only agree with you if they make you fight Jesus himself in a game.
Your character is empowered by the Great Will, making you someone who could rival Shiva.
Hii...
Helo... i m girl... hw r u?
@@joshua7015 kek
Sup
Yes I know this is just game,,,I don't believe in god,,,but no one can beat shiva,,in Hindu mythology shiva is a creator of universe.
It's not a mythological its real
Ik you are athiest but atleast do some research before commenting something
It's a game, your gods aren't real so it means jacksht if they're getting beat up or not.
No no no no, Bramha is the creator of shrushti(the universe)
Shiva is lord of destruction
Vishnu the third god of the trio is the administrator
Basically bramha is the dev of a game
Shiva is the plasterer and reviewer
And vishnu is the one who moderates the game
Its so disrespect to show respectful Gods this Way
They are all demons anyway
Much Much than Bollywood PK movie, who have shown Lord Shiva as coward god
@@TheBatman39 shin Megami Tensei is all about demons, angles and gods ..
Wait how is this disrespectful, I'm Hindu and this feels fine, Shiva is lord of destruction, his role is to smite all things and beings that have outlived their purpose, that way brahma can create something else, this is what Shiva is said to be in Hinduism, this portrayal of Shiva is natural
It's a video game lmao. Clearly you've never played an smt game before
Um if I beat Shiva in a dream I would wake up and apologize! Not going to even try in a game.
Fun facts: if you beat lord Shiva 🔱 ,you can enter gate of heaven
@@royalkumar795 bhai bolne se pahele soch tou le
@@anshumanmishra3851sooch samjh ke hi Bola rahaa hoo
@anshumanmishra3851 then why do you have Kakashi a stand in for the one of the many dietys of Japanese culture as your profile pic kind of disrespectful to have a wrongful depiction of another countries dietys and claim it a yours even if they are portrayed as a mortal
Mk 11 plzzz
Girls fighting against lord Shiva lol , there is not a single opponent on this multi universe who can fight Shiva , he just need to open his third eye nd world will start collapse..... Shiva don't even need to come infront of for this ..... Sure some day u will realise Shiva nd may your brain dead at same moment for playing with God of destruction ❤
grow up
@@tattybogles3156 lol more age then your kiddo .... Guy with no god stop fkin here ... I'm older than universe
@@user-it5lc9ip2tsure you are 🙄🙄
That isn't a girl and this is just video game dude, pls don't take that so seriously.
1: the protagonist has no confirmed gender
2: they literally kill basically every god in the game
3: stop bitching about a goddamn video game
Hey man they are gonna be ugly for this game company.
Then what about PK movie, didn't Bollywood try to make lord Shiva as ugly ?
@@royalkumar795 pk movie had a fight with god no right here you are killing a god to farm exp there is a difference. See im not blaming there style or thinking but ask your elders or anyone from your country they will say the same
@@divyanshpandey8703 you are not killing here, you are challenging the god here, don't ever think this boss fight is gonna be any easy this god show no mercy mm just look at level of those parties they are all level 99
@@divyanshpandey8703 my elder knows much better than you , you would get pay what they have worship and hard work on lord Shiva 🔱
@@royalkumar795 man either you want to disrespect a god by fighting him, okay your wish may be next generation don't respect any things from the past okay, good going modernisation true as hell, yeah kill the gods 👌👌
What the hell this game man shiva is most important hindu god and they made him boss fight this game definitely going to banned and shiva is most powerful god no one can defeat him
This game has its own lore
Basically to simplify one great God usurped all other gods and threw away their powers which is referred to as a knowledge and hid it in the garden of eden(derived from christianity) one eve and adam ate the apple they forever tied the knowledge of the gods to themselves, when a being whose knowledge had been stripped away comes into contact with the human that holds their knowledge they become what is known as a nahobino, essentially a being with the same power as the great God that usurped all others
The protagonist is a nahobino and Shiva even without his knowledge is one of the hardest bosses in game
Basically.... Shiva powerful enough to go toe to toe with a being that is basically supposed to be on another power level and if that doesent honor then I don't know what will
nahobino solos shiva lol
@@PenguinsAreColdish that's more gameplay rather than lore, and we can confirm that the protags do indeed have cannon teams, see the demi fiend fight, so really we do always use a team, it's just that gameplay wise, we have the freedom to use it
@@PenguinsAreColdish so basically, lore wise we always have a team, gameplay wise we may not have a team
in India, Shiva is a major god, where his illustrations, idols made to describe Shiva is treated with utmost respect. You cant fight Shiva and this is total disrespect. gonna file a case over this insensitive content.
Shiva wouldn't care. Why would you? And your empty threats won't work here.
@@ajeshtantri9816 ha ha then you should go WB, then your worship won't work there
@@ajeshtantri9816 look at u, so arrogant. im not even indian/ hindhu, but look at u, u step on ppl's belief easily,.
@@luchakim7593 I didn't step on your beliefs. I just hurt your pride,which I have no problem in doing.
@@ajeshtantri9816 whoa. r u even indian
Taking our gods and making it demon???? A Hindu God that defeat demons is a demon? Why don't you all fight and beat up Jesus!!!
Jesus isn't a warrior, however his father YHVH was the antagonist and final boss of the previous game. So they went even harder
The premise of the game is that the abrahamic god who they call by their name is dead
You fight YHVH as a boss in 2 of the games
YHVH is a literal tyrant, who in 1 genocides humanity twice and attempts to do it a third time in 2
And its made by the Japanese, who also include their mythological figures, and in this game their heavenly gods have died
The fact they made Shiva the strongest non DLC boss in the game is a testament to his status as the destroyer God
They also don't make him out to be evil
demon is just a broad term for the mythological stuff in this game, it doesn't ACTUALLY mean they are referring to the bad types of demon. an example of something like this would be the pokemon in pokemon, they just named it pokemon so it would be easier to indicate the entire roster of pokemon.
because jesus isnt a god. however on multiple occasions we kill metatron, yhvh, and tons of other gods. its not just shiva...
Shut up NO ONE CARES HAHAHA
This is offense to all indian and followers of lord shiva , this why people who dont know oyher country religion should use there respect God or mythical creatures/ characters for game or anything else .
True.
I find it odd how modern man seems to want to defeat the divine and master God as opposed to how ancient man would battle with God and it would lead to enlightenment and understanding of the relationship between Man and the divine. Om Namashivaya!
Don't expect other countries to see Shiva the same way Indians do. This is far from disrespectful. If anything they understand Shiva better than some in this comment section who think he is the God of creation.
*mythical true
Actually as an Indian myself who actually knows the game lore, this actually paints lord Shiva in a very good light, by which I mean his power
Game is literally trash...and easy at same time
Another salty Indian lol
Lmao dude I am also indian,stop being salty,it's just a game
Dude im not salty...ffs the game is literal dog shit
You didnt play the game.
Are you fucking kidding me,U beat Mahadev,Lord Ganesha and Maa Kali with what these puny robots anf demons,I mean what an insult to Mythology,this game disgust me
Chill man it's a video game, it is FICTITIOUS and not real, in other games you are allowed to kill humans that does not mean you are allowed to or the game is telling you to kill people in real life because that is also not stated in any law or moral and ethical code anywhere around the world, games are not supposed to depict what is real but a fictitious imaginary what if scenario. Learn to separate reality from fiction
Vishnu was on the team as well
Arahabaki is no robot.
Nobody cares LOL