Why Pokemon’s Economy is DOOMED! | (Theory) SwankyBox

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  • @SwankyBox
    @SwankyBox  7 років тому +27

    “Why a pet-focused channel, Swanky?” Allow me to explain!
    This entire year has been very interesting for me as a creator. Earlier this year I had some issues with trying to figure out the direction of my channel, but I also realized that I had many different interests as a creator. Gaming was only one of those interests. I love pets, traveling, creepy mysteries, and local history. Any of those things could have really been my path as a creator!
    This is why we started Cat Lab. It was to fulfill one of those other creative holes in my heart. Gaming will always be my primary passion and it certainly is not going away, but branching out into a different genre felt so fresh. The reason why I didn’t tell anyone about this channel until now was because I was also using it as research for the book I’m writing. It allowed me to once again get the perspective of a new channel starting from the ground up. Since I’m writing a book about a UA-camr’s journey, it made sense to relive the experience so I could frame the book correctly.
    So, in short: Nothing is changing about the SwankyBox channel. This will merely be something else I’m doing on the side for fun!

    • @DoubleMonkM
      @DoubleMonkM 7 років тому +2

      SwankyBox,we need to do a Noah's Ark and get every Pokémon that doesn't have payday

    • @DoubleMonkM
      @DoubleMonkM 7 років тому

      SwankyBox,and payday would be dead

    • @How_To_Drive_a_TARDIS
      @How_To_Drive_a_TARDIS 7 років тому +1

      SwankyBox so I guess it's kind of like Mario coins

    • @DoubleMonkM
      @DoubleMonkM 7 років тому

      WATER POKEMON Use Surf

  • @RomLoneWolf23
    @RomLoneWolf23 7 років тому +46

    My interpretation of "Payday" is that it doesn't create coins out of nowhere, but instead teleports in a coin from somewhere else. That, or Mewoths scavenge money and keep it secreted on themselves before firing it a target.

    • @SwankyBox
      @SwankyBox  7 років тому +16

      That's a neat interpretation. Long distance stealing is an interesting concept. Assuming it is a stolen coin, that is!

    • @timetraveler3797
      @timetraveler3797 6 років тому +2

      SwankyBox
      The amount of currency created by counterfeit is tiny compared to the amount created by the government/federal reserve bank. Inflation is caused by borrowing it into existence. This video shows lack of research regarding the financial system. Also regarding taxes. Every thing we buy includes tax in the price, even without a consumption tax. The price covers not only the supply, but things like labor (income tax), rent (property) etc.

  • @riskitbiscuit68
    @riskitbiscuit68 7 років тому +17

    The fact that you even made a video about a cat destroying a economy is just amazing.

    • @komodot9249
      @komodot9249 7 років тому

      Cacti Master I always knew cats were evil!!!!

  • @AJVulpes
    @AJVulpes 7 років тому +7

    I have a thought as to how they aren't printing money. Now I know Meowth using payday generates money, but Meowth also has the ability Pick Up. So if used in connection with payday, once may be able to say that Meowth is throwing money that it has collected and that the higher the pokemon's skill (their level) the better they are at finding money strewn around on the ground. Mathematically Payday gives 1/4 the pokemon's level in money per use of the move at the current exchange rate a level 100 meowth would on average be throwing $3 of change around and with how much change is forgotten, dropped, lost and thrown out, it isn't unheard of that a person could find that much just laying around after some searching.

  • @rosedarkling
    @rosedarkling 7 років тому +10

    I never thought of the Pokemon economy like this, but makes total sense to me. I always thought the amounts in Pokemon was insanely high, but the value of it being the yen makes a lot more sense. And super cute new channel logo for your cat channel; your wife and you look adorable. Keep creating, Swanky. God bless yours and you! :)

  • @indiexcorex2
    @indiexcorex2 7 років тому +10

    Stranger: um what are you doing in my house?
    Red: ......... *steals stuff*
    Stranger: and they say that team Rocket is bad this kid just steals all of my belongings

  • @nerdofnow2784
    @nerdofnow2784 7 років тому +8

    Oh thank God I thought you meant that the Pokemon _franchise's_ economy was doomed

  • @cullenlatham2366
    @cullenlatham2366 7 років тому +1

    Only one problem, where does meowth or any other Pokemon get the money they throw? The 2 quickest and easiest solutions are: 1, they swipe it from their trainer, which due to the mechanics of the move as expressed in the video, is more unlikely than 2, the Pokemon picks up loose change and throws it. The question then becomes how does it magically find near infinite coins to throw, but it can be explained as the Pokemon finding and hoarding shiny things such as coins and the unlimited access is just an oversight from devs. Also, currency is just a standardized and regulated form of trading, and maybe the pokeverse utilizes more of a trade system than a currency system, with the in game counter just simplifying it for us. So, in theory, meowth finds a bottle cap and throws it, the trainer mistakes it for a coin after the fact, then trades it in place of currency at a shop.

    • @foxymetroid
      @foxymetroid 7 років тому

      The in-game description says that Meowths love round, shiny things. It's likely they just collect every coin they find on the ground and then toss them as an attack.

  • @SimpleFlips
    @SimpleFlips 7 років тому +2

    Swankybox + Cats = 😻

  • @TheGeckoNinja
    @TheGeckoNinja 7 років тому +2

    not sure why team rocket just doesnt catch a bunch of meowths and spam payday

  • @alphreydo
    @alphreydo 7 років тому +5

    Congrats! Now you know why there's never been a large scale political movement against any of the villian organizations in any of the games. Closest you get is Looker and he needs help from a 10 year old child before anything gets done, so I'm guessing he's not exactly the nation's finest. Actually, thinking about it, isn't it possible that the reason we never see any sort of central form of government in the series is because the entire country is run by organizations and cities. It could also explain why everyone is always going to trainers for help instead of calling the cops. I think I may have just set you up for your next theory. lol

  • @andrewmortensen896
    @andrewmortensen896 7 років тому +15

    Meowth genocide is the only answer

  • @mechnaprime3637
    @mechnaprime3637 6 років тому +1

    another option could be that mewoth's money is like "fea gold" ie: turns to excrement upon morning. If it is identical to "real money" shopkeepers wouldn't know the difference until it is too late. Of course this leads to other problems but it is a valid possibly.

  • @Jreddicus
    @Jreddicus 7 років тому +1

    If Payday ruins the economy, then weather and nature moves (surf, guillotine, Hail, etc) would end the world

  • @seabassthegamer6644
    @seabassthegamer6644 7 років тому +1

    Payday just makes the opponent give you more money. Meowth coins are fake. PROBLEM SOLVED.

  • @MunchyMakesStuff
    @MunchyMakesStuff 7 років тому

    Lets take all of the meowths and persians...and put them in my house...that would solve the problem XD

  • @NeedyShield16
    @NeedyShield16 7 років тому +3

    I Agree With You SwankyBox. When You Are You Going To Live Streaming Again?

    • @SwankyBox
      @SwankyBox  7 років тому +1

      It's definitely something I want to start doing again soon. Once this book is published, I'll have so much more free time. I've actually been planning some stuff for 2018. I think the issue I run into now is that live streaming worked for a few weeks, but when things would overlap (like having to hit deadlines for my book), I had to skip over streaming. I certainly miss doing it and would love to do more of it in the future.

    • @NeedyShield16
      @NeedyShield16 7 років тому +1

      SwankyBox Okay. Take Your Time. Thanks For Comment back.

  • @tcarrotgaming1639
    @tcarrotgaming1639 6 років тому +1

    An easy solution to this problem is to just start using different currency, so that no random Meowths or Smeargles can create something of value.

  • @tdark987
    @tdark987 5 років тому

    aI'd take a guess that the original idea was for the move to use a portion of your current money as ammo (kind of like Gil Toss in Final Fantasy) and give you some of it back if you won the battle with the pokemon who used it, but was changed because of programming limitations (possibly the engine wasn't able to base damage on your currently held money, or deduct money at the end of random battles).
    Any any case though, an economy where the biggest "industry" is people - often children - betting money on glorified cockfights still has major problems...

  • @lqu
    @lqu 6 років тому +1

    I thought I was clicking on a Game Theory video.

  • @twilitblade
    @twilitblade 2 роки тому

    when your on vid 247 out of 303 on SwankyBox's complete playlist and realize you're not subscribed.

  • @jamessconiers1968
    @jamessconiers1968 4 місяці тому

    All that's left is to become epic master in a epic world.

  • @inferndragon
    @inferndragon 6 років тому

    My logic for this conundrum would just be that "Poke Dollars" are only tied to buying Pokemon based items.
    When really the Pokedex is actually collecting marketing data on the Children (not just the pokemon).
    And there is another form of currency that the world runs on. There for battles are only for entertainment.

  • @generalesdeath5836
    @generalesdeath5836 7 місяців тому

    We’re experiencing this in the real world right now just instead of Meowth, it’s “the federal reserve.”

  • @collaborisgaming2190
    @collaborisgaming2190 5 років тому

    the first form of a monetary symbol was actually with the Mexican Peso, that was the precursor symbol for Yen and Dollar, in fact the Americans adopted it soon after it was made or sophisticated in Mexico. so a P with 2 lines in it was the original dollar sign but with an unexpected origin. maybe that's where Brock sells to, lol

  • @jordynisboredyn
    @jordynisboredyn 7 років тому

    My theory is, there is no government in the Pokémon universe and their form of government is probably the Pokémon league and they probably encouraged trainers to give each other bets and that’s why there is so much

  • @kennyholmes5196
    @kennyholmes5196 6 років тому +1

    What if the pokemarts and pokecenters were not-for-profit organizations that actually destroyed the money as they received it, only keeping just enough of what they received to pay for their expenses?

  • @jaded151
    @jaded151 7 років тому +1

    put the meowths in consideration camps

  • @captainlastreo5160
    @captainlastreo5160 6 років тому +1

    Has nobody ever considered the fact that is NO economy in the Pokemon World? Why must you try to bring real life into fantasy?

  • @BradKarmour
    @BradKarmour 7 років тому

    Oh my god, I'm subbing to that cat channel so fast.

  • @Glockenspheal
    @Glockenspheal 6 років тому

    They are golden coins that are just converted to Pokedollars for gameplay convenience, if the market gets saturated, just the coins start loosing value.

  • @ProtoVee
    @ProtoVee 7 років тому

    Great video! I've actually been thinking about helping my wife setup a channel to upload her bunny videos! Pet vids are always fun.

    • @SwankyBox
      @SwankyBox  7 років тому +1

      Go for it! We've had a blast so far!

  • @lucidliberty5723
    @lucidliberty5723 7 років тому +2

    my theory is that Pokemon was capitalist because of the Inflation and now its socialist or communist because there is a Main Organization that helps the people by Pokemon centers or Markets. the Antagonist Teams are capitalist or anarchist

    • @lucidliberty5723
      @lucidliberty5723 7 років тому

      and due to Not fullsocialism/Communism the Economy ist doomed because Marx Said there cant be both capitalism and socialism/Communism

  • @loulou3676
    @loulou3676 4 роки тому

    I always think of the pokedollar in terms of yen or equal to 1 US cent too. So you start most games with about $30 US in hand, a Pokeball or Potion costs $2 which is what I'd imagine it would cost in the real world. And you get like $3 from beating little kids but like $50 from beating gym leaders. Idk why Team Rocket gives you money tho.

    • @loulou3676
      @loulou3676 4 роки тому

      As for Meowth I assumed it stole coins from the opposing trainer or picked them up off the ground. I didn't think they literally produced currency within their bodies

  • @paulgrotebeverborg1119
    @paulgrotebeverborg1119 7 років тому

    Could you make a theory about Super Paper Mario?, doesn't matter what.

  • @lthereddd4838
    @lthereddd4838 7 років тому

    Actually, Swanky, I made a Reddit post on r/TheyDidTheMath about pokemon tournaments as they are seen in the anime, and crossmatching items in the game and real life, a lot of unproven and "out of my head" stuff, but in it I came to the conclusion that loads of real world money would be moved around for one single event, I don't have the link now, but I can get it if you want it

    • @SwankyBox
      @SwankyBox  7 років тому

      That actually sounds really interesting. I'd love to read your thoughts on it.

    • @lthereddd4838
      @lthereddd4838 7 років тому

      SwankyBox www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/79s9zf/self_i_did_the_math_on_how_much_money_a_pokemon
      On the phone, so yeah, big link, sorry :p Please do let me know what you think, discussing things like that is a favorite of mine and the reason I'm a subscriber for your channel

  • @jaren12072
    @jaren12072 7 років тому

    I would solve the problem by first making the move pay day illegal and to make sure no pokemon has payday outside of every major city at random points on every road or highway and in every pokemon center there would be an officer to check and make sure no pokemon knows payday every bank would have their entire vault replaced with newly minted bills and coins that have a marking certifying it wasn't obtained from payday and for one week people will be able to go to a treasury filed office or something of the sort and have all of their old unmarkes bills and coins replaced with the new marked ones all the old bills will be burned and the old coins will be melted down and have their material repurposed after that one week has passed all of old unmarked bills and coins will be treated as illegal even if they were legally made before hand

  • @PixleyLore
    @PixleyLore 7 років тому

    Lol how do you come up with this shit man? Always impressed, good stuff!

  • @SuperGoldenMario_
    @SuperGoldenMario_ 7 років тому

    my Idea Route toll: a mini boarder that is managed by a police officer. the price to enter the route would be ¶500 - ¶1000 depending on the route

  • @CausticFoil
    @CausticFoil 7 років тому

    I always assumed that the money trainers use are seperate to actual money in Pokemon.

    • @trevorpate121
      @trevorpate121 6 років тому

      You're referring to scrip. These are just glorified video game tokens(90's kid here). These were used in mining towns in the America of our grandparents. The use of scrip money mostly ended during WW2 & ended entirely shortly after that. If you go to certain countries people are still using scrip. If the trainers were using scrip like our grandparents used, you'll fail as a state that much faster. The mining company owned the store. To buy whatever, everything was on credit & scrip. You'd essentially sell your soul to the company store. To make matters worse, scrip was only useful in the town you were living in. You're paid in Zeptown but you can't spend it in Lavender Town. I know of a retired fighter pilot who served in the US military during the COLD WAR; he was stationed in Iceland. Back then as today, Iceland was a midway point between here & Russia. He told me that you could buy stuff on the base, but you had to surrender your American money for scrip. The fear was that Russian spies would obtain American money & use them as templates to produce counterfeit cash, thereby making the dollar lose value.

  • @freshrot420
    @freshrot420 3 роки тому

    On the other hand it could be something of a utopia where governments don't screw with currency values in an attempt to profit off this system where there's always never enough! I think pokeballs costing less than $2 is a good sign that they can easily produce most things and by the time you have nearly or even infinite resources, what sort of profits do you really need to see? You'd really only need to cover the cost of any labor, shipping, wear on machinery, etc., and a lil profit, yet if everything else is easily affordable, it wouldn't need to be a super high amount either, especially at the rate they sell!
    Also another important part is what form the money takes. Is it paper or metal? If pokemon are just making precious metals there is a huge gain to the economy. The resources available for making things would be amazing, especially complex electronics! Although it would indeed make less scarcity, this doesn't necessarily have to mean bad things like we've been taught. And if meowths are just spewin out real gold that doesn't soon disappear, it stands to reason every pokemon can produce tangible and readily usable stuff based on their element, which would explain where their universe got such an abundance of resources and why everything is cheap.

  • @ParasocialCatgirl
    @ParasocialCatgirl 7 років тому

    What any sensible government would do would be to discontinue use of the PokeDollar, and introduced a new replacement currency. Like how, in the 1920s, Germany discontinued the Mark due to hyperinflation and introduced the Rentenmark.

  • @QuinSkew
    @QuinSkew 6 років тому

    Technically Mouth is tossing gold.

  • @trevorpate121
    @trevorpate121 6 років тому

    Prepare to pay the Iron Price.

  • @jacobjimenez6753
    @jacobjimenez6753 7 років тому +1

    Haven't watched the video yet, but I've always questioned their whole economic system. I mean, they literally give away stuff for free, while at the same time have a currency that's hardly seen to be used on the show, but is used in the games of which still, there's no way we know who produces the currency and how/why everyone uses it when across the world each region and town is independent and all of their leaders from cities/towns it is a single person (some times two), to regions as a whole which are a group of elites that are only where they are because they have the best monsters of the region. But even then, most of the time it's up to the kids of the world to put a stop to these terrorist like groups which apparently is a job for the only organization responsible for, of which is unable to even accomplish its only goal!The whole thing just doesn't make any sense! Phew, I'm all done 😉

  • @thomashost272
    @thomashost272 4 роки тому

    Make Shop Prices higher for more experienced trainers.

  • @remixtheidiot5771
    @remixtheidiot5771 7 років тому

    The pokemon dollar sign looks more like a phillippine peso actually.

    • @foxymetroid
      @foxymetroid 7 років тому

      I'm pretty sure it's designed after the yen, but with the y replaced with a p because everything's poke-something in that world.

    • @remixtheidiot5771
      @remixtheidiot5771 7 років тому

      foxymetroid yeah, i was just pointing it out since as a small filipino child playing leaf green for the first time that can't read and that is also an idiot saw the symbol and said; IT LOKKS LIEK UR MUNEY!

  • @blaegme
    @blaegme 7 років тому

    But wait when you lose you don't pay them anything. What if the trainers is not where the money is coming from.

  • @srtallio
    @srtallio 5 років тому

    Print money & coin money are different...Pay Day isn't a license to "print money", it produces hard coins 🙂 which have real value & aren't just paper bills representing value in a fake manner (ie: if you have $10.00 worth of metal & print 20 bills, they'll each be worth $0.50...if you print 100, they'll be worth $0.10, etc. but the metal will always be worth $10.00) 😊 why do you think so many places are replacing paper & introducing more & more metal coin? 😎

  • @xwasp0
    @xwasp0 7 років тому

    Just have Meowth use payday. Problem solved

  • @xathridtech727
    @xathridtech727 6 років тому

    Pay day is from the money they find on the ground

  • @Charziken909
    @Charziken909 7 років тому

    payday?...
    how do u know payday looks exactly the same as a poke dollar?

  • @jordynisboredyn
    @jordynisboredyn 7 років тому

    Nuuu
    EDIT: I thought he meant in our economy xD.

  • @Xanit
    @Xanit 7 років тому +1

    Is the concept of money that valuable to human society? Perhaps in the real world, you couldn't have a functioning nation without a type of currency and an economy for it to exist in, but in Pokemon, there are literally pokemon that are born with, made out of, or spontaneously acquire materials and objects. For instance, a Timburr evidently is born with a block of wood, and, once it evolves, suddenly owns a girder. Perhaps the production of items like these and the influence of Pokemon as essentially magical creatures makes the Pokemon world's economy immune to inflation because the value of things is skewed by Pokemon's existence.
    Or maybe the place is just a utopia and people do whatever the fuck they want with no regard to money. Perhaps no concrete economy really exists, and pokedollars are just used to regulate the strength and progression of trainers, not to be used in anything resembling real transactions.
    Eh, who knows? Sure seems like a better place than here, anyway.

    • @cullenlatham2366
      @cullenlatham2366 7 років тому +1

      Xanit until the local evil team gets their hands on a powerful Pokemon they use to try and change, destroy, or enslave the world and its residents... and somehow, all it takes to beat them is a preteen prodigy with battle knowledge that seems beyond most residents of the universe...
      You can't deny there is also some **** up stuff in the pokeverse...

  • @AkayAkamay
    @AkayAkamay 7 років тому

    While the pay day coins are worth money, they are not exactly the same as the government issued money. They are gold pieces shaped like Meowth's coins if you only consider the game's logic.
    In this sense, the pay day coins could be devalued and lose value the more they flood the market. So the economy can survive, the government would just need to let shops and people know that the pay day coins would be worth less and less because of how many of them there are.
    At least that's how I see a solution for this problem.

    • @trevorpate121
      @trevorpate121 6 років тому

      They could just export the gold coins to other countries to reduce their own debt. A Coke in the USA could essentially be used to buy a 3rd world country.

  • @enricobianchi4499
    @enricobianchi4499 7 років тому

    Just make the Pokedollar bill very fragile.

  • @bencox3641
    @bencox3641 7 років тому

    Use the coins for scrap metal or throw them into a volcano.

  • @ustinodj
    @ustinodj 7 років тому

    They could just move to another currency.

  • @komodot9249
    @komodot9249 7 років тому

    I have the answer. change the money so it's not the same thing as Meowth's pay day so the old Pokemon currency would be as useless as Confederate cash and the new one is regulated by the government.

  • @yasugarasu7779
    @yasugarasu7779 6 років тому

    Who else thought he meant the Pokèmon Company?

  • @schmittydtty6580
    @schmittydtty6580 7 років тому

    Mabey the government could switch to gold, because there would be a fixed amount of it.

  • @yuromaki
    @yuromaki 6 років тому

    Did you know that buying is just trading with money?

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro 7 років тому

    you have another channel? I'm there consider me subscribed

  • @MaryJMajesty
    @MaryJMajesty 7 років тому +2

    The solution is simple: Exterminate all Pokemon that can learn Pay Day so they go extinct, and make it illegal to own them in case anyone tries to keep them.

  • @brendanpramsey
    @brendanpramsey 7 років тому

    I would do what germeny did change the money from dollars to an other type of money

  • @farrael004
    @farrael004 7 років тому

    wouldn't it be as simple as the government stop printing money and start destroying a set amount of coins that are circulating, that way you deflate the inflating currency, balancing it out

    • @trevorpate121
      @trevorpate121 6 років тому

      Not really. The weakest POKEMON can plow through stone. The mightiest ones can break & rewrite the laws of physics, time, space & nature. The POKEMON would cause money to teleport from the collection & destruction facilities. But there's a loophole. In Colonial America, British law was practiced. At that time the law said thus: "TO COUNTERFEIT IS DEATH." In extreme cases the death penalty can still be enacted for counterfeiters(assuming these creatures are producing counterfeit cash). Also, in Louisiana, there are nutria's running wild. They're an invasive species that escaped their pens & are tearing up the ecosystem. The government of that state has placed a cash bounty on nutria cadavers. Never did the Golden Goose deserve so greatly to be killed; to make matters worse, it's procreating. In the story of said animal, there's no mention of the bird producing offspring.

  • @5Porygon
    @5Porygon 6 років тому

    You jsi very šikovný youtuber. :))

  • @mysterybluebery7669
    @mysterybluebery7669 6 років тому

    destroing pokedolars

  • @licensedblockhead
    @licensedblockhead 4 роки тому

    I'm thinking about doing a libertarian nuzlocke for sword and shield. Nothing free

  • @JustsomeRando4291
    @JustsomeRando4291 3 роки тому

    Well it is about how the federal reserve works.

  • @halocool1531
    @halocool1531 6 років тому

    Delete the move payday

  • @cerescloud9008
    @cerescloud9008 7 років тому

    tbh the pokedollars looks more like pesos (philippines)

  • @mingyjongo2506
    @mingyjongo2506 7 років тому

    Please Spoil the ending of Sun and Moon to me please

  • @trevorpate121
    @trevorpate121 6 років тому

    Merchant: That'll be $6.
    Trainer: OK, here you go.
    Merchant: We don't take poke-dollars.
    Trainer: Listen, my money's as good as anyone's. Don't you, uh, discriminate against my people by not accepting poke-dollars.
    Merchant: WE DON'T TAKE POKE-DOLLARS, END OF STORY!
    Trainer: CRAZY!

  • @0oh_no
    @0oh_no 5 років тому

    Hey and an euro is a C with 2 lines (€)

  • @moonlightdrown9366
    @moonlightdrown9366 7 років тому

    And a c with two lines for euros

  • @alishniroula8819
    @alishniroula8819 6 років тому

    100

  • @cd31000
    @cd31000 5 років тому

    If you consider that the Poke Dollar has ALREADY been worthless and has been used as a children's currency like Monopoly money that has been arranged at a set value by shop keepers and aspiring trainers as a supplemental currency in exchange for necessary items, that would explain why food is scarce as a Pokemon Trainer side from Pokemon themed restaurants and why very few vending machines actually exist and why a BICYCLE is 1,000,000 Poke Dollars in Gen 1, yet on a high end 50,000 Yen in Japan.

  • @TheGoogz
    @TheGoogz 6 років тому

    The best solution to any economy, fictional or real, would be to stop putting your faith in government and taxes, and to create a society where everyone realizes that we should work together for common goals and not just try to gain the upper hand and make a profit at someone else's expense.

  • @JPOfAwesomeness
    @JPOfAwesomeness 7 років тому

    I'm 10th

  • @ShineSpriteGamer
    @ShineSpriteGamer 7 років тому

    1st? Btw I love your content!