I Was Right?! This CHANGES EVERYTHING!! | The Aftermath Lore
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- March of the Machine: The Aftermath Lore
With March of the Machine over, we move on to the story of its epilogue set March of the Machine: The Aftermath. In the wake of New Phyrexias invasion, Planes and heroes work to rebuild shattered worlds. We follow up on Planeswalkers still reeling from consequences unseen. What is happening with Nissa?
Introduction (0:00)
Burry The Past (1:50)
Portal Through The Multiverse (4:55)
Finally Showing Love (10:20)
Conclusion (12:50)
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More lore? Already?! I don's wanna toot my own horn but TOOT TOOT. My predictions looking pretty solid ;)
Like allways bro...I remember since of Shadows over Innistrad your predictions are very acurate...
You are a MTG "Nostradamus"...
Dude I hope your prediction of jace and Vraska is correct… I would hate to see Vraska dead
I wonder what would happen if gods like the one from theros or more elemental like omnath the locus were to go to other planes would the plane effects them in some way like the elemental in this story.
@@FuriousGamer-yr5xv Is my hope to...
@@michaeltaylor788 Well Omnath got compleated so he's probably stuck in suspended animation like all the others.
The Pinkertons came and took all the planewalkers' spark.
😂😂😂
This is the Best explanation. Phyrexians? Nah, the real invaders where the Pinkertons all along.
Only because they got their spark early and WOTC wanted it back.
We we're clearing the Phyrexians out the way to make way for an even bigger threat, Pinkerton planeswalkers.
@@rkrushenickaminatou better watch out then
Back in the first Zendikar Nissa was the "austrian painter" of the elves and now she is a proud interspecies-lesbian
what a twist
Shhhh we don't talk about racist nissa
I do like the idea of splitting off the main cast, but what I REALLY love is the portals opening up between planes, allowing more plane to plane interaction. There's so many, one may even say infinite, possibilities with that!
Plus it means that just because they are not planeswalkers anymore, the old cast can still show up from time to time to update us on their story.
I feel like with enought courage/foolishness/clumsyness anyone may appear on any plane, like Fblthp or Thalia.
I feel like it’s the best move since, FOR THE MOST PART phyrexians are dealt with for a long time until the oil resurfaces, bolas is in prison, and Em is sealed, plane exclusive villains can now go anywhere
@@Zarxene there is a single hint that eldrazi vs phyrexians is an if not when... so thats something Im looking forward to if magic survives till then.
I'd just like to point out one thing : with connection between planes being established , it is feasible that some of Davriel's demons might be able to actually "collect" their contracts with him (for example, one of his demons had to guess a specific object that Davriel was thinking about, that object being a seashell on a shore of a plane that the demon didn't even know could exist). I'd love a storyline with Davriel on the run from the various demonic grifts he pulled in the years as a planeswalker
[Davriel]: *is on the run from demon contracts*
[Lilliana, to Davriel]: "First time?"
Such a shame that so many planeswalkers are losing their sparks for some inexplicable reason, even some not involved. However, we have seen sparks get reignited.
People think the Spark lost are being used to cure the planes. Not sure if it's true though.
@Happymasks If that's the case, it's not intentional.
So it might be because of the damage to the mutliverse/blindeternities.
I like the idea that it's healing itself and inadvertently stealing sparks in the process since sparks are energy from the multiverse in the first place.
Teferi lost his before. Karn too during the New Phyrexia arc (and got Venser's). I do not think most of these walkers lose these sparks for good.
It’s because of Quintorius…I betcha
The inexplicable reason is so we have more legendary creatures for edh.
Cheep “have your cake and eat it too” writing
I just want to imagine Ugin and Nicol sitting there playing some crazy version of chess. When suddenly Ugin realizes his spark slipping away.
So, Nissa isn't a PW anymore, but can functionally planeswalk anywhere a plot convenient portal opens up, and her magic seems completely fine, as long as she is confident in herself (is this the 6th or 7th time it happened?)... What has changed exactly?
Anyone can Planeswalk through these portals.
@@Case2_0 like using the planar bridge + lazotep plating or being inside Kaya's ghostform, you mean? They played fast and loose with their own rules before when it was convenient, I don't see how these portals change anything. It could have been an Izzet contraption or a spell from Arcavios. It would have been different if everyone was desparked (a sort of mending 2.0). Instead they kept it very vague so that they could roll it back if customers protest in the future.
But that wasn't even my point: for Nissa, as a character, functionally nothing changed. If at least she would have lost her magic completely, that would be a) consequences and b) a potentially interesting story arc for her. Instead she got up and running for her trauma in a few lines, as nothing of importance really happened.
She's slurping Chandra's slach. That is different, even of their relationship is just as stupid now as it was 4 years ago.
If my impression is right. Planewalker don’t age. At least now without the spark. she can grow old and die of old age.
@@daniellew2271 after the mending, they do age. It's the entirety of Liliana's story with the demonic contract, she was looking to restore her power and youth. They did play a bit fast and loose with it though (especially with Nahiri, I don't understand her age), but theoretically after the mending PW aren't immortal anymore
Poor Ajani. He's hurting, broken, he needs time to think but he also needs a friend. Maybe he'll continue the cycle with Quint. Sarkhan found Ajani and taught him about being a planeswalker. Ajani could mentor little Quint
Ajani will probably go home to Alara where no one will bother him 😔
At least he is a planeswalker still.
@@addictedtomints9433 I mean. I'm just glad he's alive. Next, I gotta check up on Angrath and the new boi Quint
@@mega2009man lol very true. Being alive is also nice. I feel worst for the ones not alive and the ones who lost their sparks like crazy Nihiri. Even if she is crazy, she has been one of my favs.
@@addictedtomints9433 Truly an interesting taste in characters 😂 but you like who you like. There's nothing wrong with that. I'll never get liking her, but that's not important
Teferi too? I can understand Nissa and Koth, but Teferi? The Medning was a huge deal, and was the direct solution to the time rifts across the multiverse. and now, "No More Planeswalkers" is happening just because? that sucks
they did this just to force more commander on people
Planeswalkeres losing thier sparks.
Ob Nixilis: first time?
I was hoping that the Phyrexian arc would be a more satisfying story, but it seems to be setting up a lot of interesting smaller scale stories, and I tend to like those more
To be honest i don't blame the multiverse pruning Plainswalkers as it keeps almost dying because of them
Man. I really want to be happy that Chandra and Nissa are together, but I really can't overcome how much I dislike Nissa.
She is so toxic and manipulative here. Chandra says "I'm going to go on a mission and I'll be back soon," and Nissa's response is "You promised you'd stay! I thought you loved me! Fine then, go and stay gone! I'll take care of myself!" Like, the red flags are massive. Nissa's magic is nature based so she is in green, but her personality is super black mana - self centered, vindictive, and antisocial. I really don't get how the story places her in the right here. She is petty and cruel to Chandra. Obviously this whole thing has been traumatic for her, but she is not at all valid in how she treats Chandra.
I've been waiting for this relationship to pay off for years, but dang. Chandra deserves better.
I thought I was alone in finding Nissa quite unlikeable and immature here...
@@ROMANTIKILLER2 nah, I'm with you. Her's was not a good showing.
Fanfiction becomes reality apparently.
So we went from kind of no story in alpha, to the story of one walker in Urza, to the stories of a small group of walkers in lorywn, to the stories of countless walkers coming and going in war of the spark, to randos locked on the plane never connecting the stories of each set. Sounds like the execs and writers just don't want to write magic lore and being consistent with it. Adding to the cast ballooned it to the point we really don't care about certain characters especially ones that were basically shafted and never developed... so now just change them out every set
@@dan_mnght it's fine to write a story from like Avacyn's perspective after she's freed from the helvault. I don't see why we would only write stories from that perspective instead of utilizing the characters that can travel across worlds and gives us a reason why we visit different planes. Planeswalkers give you a way to hop back into a set story, a unique aspect of magic is their existence. If you just write a story set on a plane and the drama that goes on there with no larger connection then what's the difference between that and your OC fanfic from 15 years ago
Dak Fadden lost his spark in War of the Spark and died. Mark Rosewater confirmed back then that when a planeswalker loses their spark they die. How is Nissa still alive?
Because they like to lie
I'm guessing it's because there's a huge difference between it being "harvested" by Bolas' lazotep goons versus "losing" your connection to the blind eternities because your soul is no longer solely yours? The way it was written makes it seem like they still "have" their spark, they just can't access or use it. Like you still own your phone, but the facial scanner no longer recognizes you after a horrible accident.
Ob Nixilis
Great video!
Thank you ;)
...did Teferi ever make it back to his body after he witnessed/experienced Urza activating the Cylex? Thought that cut him off, and then somehow stranded him in Zhalfir. Did that somehow bring his body along?
What happened to elspeths spark? They keep saying that only chandra and ajani have their sparks still. Tell me they didnt give us an angel walker only to take it back in the very same set
Colossal Dreadmaw goes planeswalker confirmed.
Calling it now!
Mtg is gonna have their version of Dc "Flash Point"
That would basically just be retelling fate reforged but on a much bigger scale
I really hope they explain why the oil suddenly stopped working
Imagine a planeswalker shoveling
Anyone that uses the phrase "this changes everything" does bot deserve to be respected as a UA-camr..
So it would make sense that the next plotline is what exactly sparks are and the origins of that?
I think we will get back to Alara, cause in the lore cold be a place from the "desparked" walkers making a new Emenda like Bolas did...And in game enviroments we have some clues like angels, knights and humans in bant colors...
Of course is a "maybe" now...
Hey I would take ANY excuse to go back to Alara
@@AetherHub I really love that plane bro...The history of our dear Ajani Planeswaker "starts" there lorewise...
The Omenpaths both interest me and leave me worried.
They're interesting because they allow for established planes and characters interact in ways that couldn't happen before on revists, like a Theros-Amonkeht encounter maybe.
They worry me because less established or outright new planes could get swallowed established planes they're connected too, and become even more "plane of hats'-y than we've been getting as they get fractions of what set space Kaldheim or New Capenna had to establish themselves.
Like, if we went to Moag for a set without Omenpaths; they'd have to expand on it from an endless GW summer field, maybe with biomes related to each season, and a cast of Legendary creatures to fill a set.
But in some multi-planer set _with_ Omenpaths, I worry it'd just for source of Green cards, alongside planes like Ghohakan for White. And although none of those planes will be Ravnica or Dominaria; Legendary slots will still be taken by Niv-Mizzet, Squee, or the like, as they wander these barely explored planes because their faces will sell packs.
What I'm saying is that Omenpaths seem really interesting for the established planes; but I hope it gets resolved before we start going to new planes again.
I wonder if we are about to get another mending type of event and when it is said and done we will have a new type of planeswalker cards.
This may just be a wild theory but to me this seems like they oversaturated the market with planeswalker cards and this is WotC dialing it back a bit and making PWs a more rare and special thing once again. It also allows them to make Legendary Creature versions of now sparkless PW that could be used as commanders.
i think is both a Lore and Market problem, Some planeswalkers are too old they have take part in too many stories and have too many cards, leading to have too much of the same planeswalker, now they can retire ( basically put the old planeswalker that have finished story arcs on the back as legendary creatures) and move to a new generation of planeswalker cards, leading to better Lore and market
I don't think planeswalkers are being dialed back in any permanent or even semi permanent way.
It might be a temporary, set-specific thing for these characters, but otherwise they're an established card type of 15 years.
Aside from a few exceptions (like War of the Spark), we usually only get a handful of them each set to begin with... usually single digits.
It'd be like dialing back Instants or Sorceries at this point. There's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube as they say. Gotta keep printing them! Plus, they're just too popular.
@@corey2232 i also dont think MTG will just give up Planeswalker Cards, but many characters have too much cards and are part of too much events, so it just make sense that MTG want to retire some of this characters that already have more than enough cards, and open the way for new ones, while also opening the possibility of less Planeswalker focused stories.
From a story telling point Planeswalkers are hard to work with, because once the character has the power to easily teleport from one world to another you need to come with a lot of reasons of why the character is not part of the story. Everytime a planeswalker has a problem the writer need to explain why that planeswalker just dont call 20 other planeswalkers to help.
@@rafaelsantos-nl9jd this and also having to find a reason for walkers to not just go "this sounds like a y'all problem I'm finna Planeswalk away"
Seiben _called_ it! WOO! 🥳
It's more of Wizards going all in on commander. Remember when commander was an original idea. Hickory Farms remembers.
Finally they found the guts to make some significant changes again. For the first time in a while I'm genuinely intrigued by what may happen next.
Really!? After Nicol Bolas' fart of an ending? After the gigantic let down with the Phyrexians? And with WotC being a terrible company?
I don't see why anyone with a brain could continue to enjoy this
Hey, Love your videos. Just a question for you, are you against planeswalkers, or do you feel that Magic should eliminate planeswalkers ?
I like Planeswalkers BUT they dominate the story too much and we have far too many driving the story. I want to return to feeling like everyday heroes of the plane we visit, feel like they matter
the fact that phyresis is reversible is so damn lame. they sold it as a big thing when planeswalkers became phyrexians when really, the audience wouldve shrugged, knowing they will be brought back....
We don't know if I truly lost their spark only that they cannot access it. Remember if it comes to it they can always get it back .
I assume these new Planar Portals are only linked to one world depending on how many portals a world can manage this might not be a major disaster. It could also help solve some problems like Olivia Shows up on Ravnica and is like "Brethren To what Wine will we drink?" and the Vampires (I forgot are there vamps on ravnica?) be like "Who do you think you are?!"
Better yet, Olivia goes to Ixalan
@@natesage8645 Any of thoses would be hilarious actually.
And there are Vampires on Ravnica. Szadeck was a Parrun.
I somehow doubt Saint Elenda and Olivia would get along 😳
Sound like the big change in the multiverse because those new portals are created from the sylex explosion in the blind eternities and the breathe from the realm breaker.
Im tired of them playing with Chandra and Nissa's relationship....I guess with the loss of Jace, a new fuckboi has arisen in Chandra
They will be "Omen Paths" now!
I wish completed planeswalkers stayed completed, with the reversion they was no risk for “losing” planeswalkers to phyrexia
Tamiyo
@@AngelfireVamp814 tamiyo became a literal ghost trapped in a tablet that nahsri uses now for no good explained reason. she just at sometime in story could pull herself away from the oils control for no reason, let herself get killed for extra and now shes nashis alexa
@@xxXDrManhattanXxx it's not her tho. It's a spirit imbued with Tamiyo's memory as a precaution if she ever died
Burry the Past sounds like it could be a new card
They are no longer Planeswalkers, they are Pinkertons.
HIred goons?
Chandra, and Nissa, just committed to a suicide pact.... got it.
Wanda Maximov losing to a superfriend deck one too many times: "No more planeswalkers"
It seems that we are going in the direction you predicted. Most of us have favorites characters between the planeswalkers, but focusing in the planes and their inhabitants it's actually good for the Vorthos. Now it's time for wizards to step up their writing, fingers crossed.
They should have just killed off everyone.
And started with a brand new set of planes plainswalkers.
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Imagine Chandra’s spark going into the ethers, and then helping ignite a person on a completely different plain. Then her spark could have “mentored” the new walker. Or whatever corny story line they could have come up with. So that way we still have “memories” of old walkers. They just live in their spark and help the new walkers discover their powers… blah blah blah. Would have made more sense.
So have we gone through a second Mending?
I don't buy that this is the multiverse pruning planeswalkers. This strikes me as being an improved version of the Elderspell. Perhaps Nicol Bolas, or an ambitious copycat like Tezzeret, has figured out a means to cast it from different planes... 🤔🤔🤔
And here we have Nissa, once again cementing herself as pretty much the worst, with so many others that could have been saved in her stead, why is she even still alive?!
Does this mean we get to follow other planes walkers now or get new ones?
Gruulfriends is canon again!
Watch its the Eldrazi piggybacking off the Phyrexian realmbreaker
wizards really be fracking up
In MaRo's preview article today, he literally called them Omenpaths...
Dang, not getting your notifications anymore:(
Nooooo :( UA-cam is hurting us
@@AetherHubagreed
all i hope for is a koma cosmos serpent phyrexian card
Isn’t Karn made of silver, not steel?
Don’t muddy the writing with facts lol
He also made a new body for himself in the last story
@@cadestapp3208 Karn is made of Dark Steel
Planar chaos pt. 2.
Would be interesting if animals from different planes, received sparks. As a side effect of Realmbreaker, punching a bunch of holes into the multiverse.
Same actually. Mixed fauna. Cool
@Intresocs20 The Sliver returns home.
I can think of two instances where that's already happened.
Vrist is an Insect planeswalker, the swarms it conjures take on humanoid forms, but Vrist is just a bug nonetheless.
And then the Leviathan planeswalker Bolas ate before the mending was also a thing. We never knew who that one was though.
I'm so glad to see these two oficially almost together
I think they went past "almost" in this story quite clearly.
@@sertaki In my understanding they are like," yeah we both want this, but I can't right now because I don't feel good", I may be wrong though
@@edgarventura7497 I think it was pretty clear that the story ended with Chandra making a commitment to try her best at staying around, while both accepted that this will probably not work out perfectly - and then they took the plunge into the portal together as partners.
And the whole story was basically an exercise in both of them working through some of their emotional baggage and their issues with talking openly about their feelings and their needs. They both opened up to each other in ways that the story suggests were very significant steps of vulnerability.
Chandra realized the ways in which she was hurting Nissa, while Nissa realized that she needs to take Chandra with her flaws, while both were massively impacted by the other in their own journey of working through their feelings. And they both empowered each other during the big finale, to go beyond what they could accomplish alone - not just based on saying the right words, but because they really connected on a deeper level and understood the other.
It's definitely more than just "we like each other, but maybe later cause I feel bad". :D
The story ends with them going off into the sunset, trying to make it work - but they are complicated people who realize as much, so it's not a perfect "and now they will be together forever" ending. They have to work through their own issues to really be good partners to each other, and this may fail.
Is wizards loosing it? Teferi amd Karm both lose their Sparks?
Cool, didn't realise Nissa and Chandra had a thing going on
How did you not know that? It's literally all those people are talking about.
Wait wait wait wait........if portals are appearing on every planes.......could one open in the meditation plane?!?
😱😱😱😱😱😱
Despark 😮
Poor Teferi keeps losing his spark
he should be careful where he keep it haha
Well for now the beings we know they have lost their sparks are PW who were already "oddities" for the Planeswalkers themselves.
Nissa who suffered a soul transfiguration twice something that affected her Spark too as the Spark was an obstacle to compleating PW
Teferi who already lost his spark before the Mending and later it recovered again due (plot) reasons
If we follow this kind of logic maybe other "odd pw" will lost their spark too, I can think to the Wanderer due to her damaged/unstable spark and Ob Nixis who already lost his spark and managed to kick start it again... surelly I am forgetting someone
Now i’m only 3 minutes & 26 seconds in but I hope like Tezzeret or Saheeli are able to build like mini Planar Bridge’s so that the planswalkers that have lost their spark can still travel the multiverse
Great Idea, make it so that the entire story is even more pointless
And why would those characters get that privilege over anyone else?
Well not all planes walkers are losing there sparks just sum.
ELDRAZI?!?!
I hope the current arc with less planeswalkers and more local stories stays true! Exited to see more stories about what's happening
Why not round up the planeswalking monsters and elderspell them.
Maybe this is why we are going to have adventures in the next sets casue I am sure several would want their sparks back pull a nico bolas lite now with 60 percent less zombies
with 60 percent less zombies. This killed me. You made my day good sir.
Joke's on you, instead of 3-4 PW's per set, we'll now only go down to 2 per set! Gotta give new toys to Oathbreaker now that it is a recognized format, after all! Muahahahaha!
I don't like the idea of them not being planeswalkers anymore. That's like saying there is no more Kris Walkers anymore. Not Cool! 😂
ah yeah and the only person keeping the sparks are ajani and chandra, probably not because of a good reason, just because these characters sell the most packs
dissappointing, every story with chandra gets ruined by herself and how bad they write her
They kiss?!? Awww
As long as WOTC don't touch Ral Zarek with their Pinkerton fingers, I'm good.
It's pronounced like Bay-o-Bob tree
I'm might just be my phone but the video isn't playing right
Love this story but WHERE IS TEZZY!!?!!?!?!?!!!!?!!!??!??
Careful with reading the lore, I don't want WoTC to send the Pinkertons after you!
The Mending 2.0 I guess? 🤔
Bro 22K views for this??
I’m curious the implications of planeswalkers losing their spark in regards to the player. What will that mean for players going forward, does the player too lose their spark?
It's WotC... they are NOT thinking that far ahead or with that much detail
Hey guys…. WHERE THE FUCK IS JACE
Ergh Nissa should have died in MoM. An invasion of the Phyrexians should have had more emotional casualties.
Apart from Wrren, Tibalt and Jaya, no other well known/liked planeswalkers died. They ever got healed or just vanished like Vraska
Lol that is a lie, no one likes Tibalt! 🤣
#baldnissa
I'm going to stop you... their was no loss... the Ivasion was bearly a blip... JUST like Nico Bolas War of the spark was bearly an event. So was this... Every single plane did just fine with no losses at at the minimum...
… wotc likes to change the sexual orientation of Chandra depending on who is writing her story eh? There does not seem to be any consistency to magic story writing. It seems to be better to treat each story from different sets as having different characters with the same name with same powers at this point
Maybe she just bi bro
@@christopherlucas9118 Nope, remember war of the spark? In that novel Chandra says she's "had never been into girls"and it focused on how devastated she was on Gideon's sacrifice because she "had a huge crush on Gids".
The professor from Tolarian community college also mentions this in his review of the war of the spark novel too.
I wish mtg was better at writing.
This story in nut shell: my magic doesn't work if I'm depressed, also wormhole
Next story is literally just: ajani tries to force nahiri to work with him. When she says no, he tries to murder her.
lol this story makes no snense
It would have been nice for wotc to have enough respect to maintain lasting consequences in their story for once.
Such bad writing....
Karn, Ajani, and Nissa should all be dead. There’s way too much plot armor around the popular planeswalkers. None of them have should be able to escape death a million times *cough* Ajani *cough*.
Careful buddy, Wizards might send the Pinkertons to get the story back lol it might of been leaked by accident... Bit thanks for the story for mtg buddy!
Thank god. While I love the characters, I really hate the planeswalker card type.
So many content creators using "this changes everything" in the titles just screams that they're using AI to write scripts
No offense because I enjoy most of your content but there’s no need to pat yourself on the back because it was a little obvious. Everyone at my LGS have been talking about the same thing.
THEY SHOULD'VE DIED!!! But, i suppose it is funny to see the uppity elf lose her abilities.
I agree it’s time for the whole “let’s not kill them cuz they’re popular thing” to end. Nissa, Ajani, and Karn should all be dead. They relatively give nothing to the story but bs like exactly how many times should Ajani and Karn be given plot armor?
@@reklaw017h5 I've pretty much hated Nissa from day one, and all of her stupid home!