I've answered my own question by listening to your opening statement. I will be arguing one count of unlawful termination of pregnancy along with 5 counts of M
When able, I’ll send you his signed guilty plea with the details of all the charges on it. You may want to carefully review the details of the count below. Note that you can’t change it to a lesser charge. COUNT6 :UNLAWFULTERMINATIONOFPREGNANCY IN THE FIRST DEGREE (F2): 1. Onoraboutthe134dayofAugust, 2018,ni the County ofWeld, State ofColorado; 2. CHRISTOPHER LEE WATTS, with the intent ot terminate unlawfully the pregnancy of a woman, namely: Shanann Watts, 3. feloniously and unlawfully 4. terminated the pregnancy of the woman. .5 Further, the woman died as a result of the unlawful terminationof the pregnancy, 6. WITH INTENT- A person acts intentionally or with intentwhen his conscious objective is tocause the specific result proscribed by the statute defining the offense. It is immaterial whether or not the result actually occurred. 7. PREGNANCY means the presence ofan implanted human embryo or fetus within the uterus of a woman. 8. UNLAWFUL TERMINATION OFPREGNANCY means thetermination of a pregnancy by any means other than birth or a medical procedure, instrument, agent, or drug, for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on her behalf, has been obtained, or for which the pregnant woman's consent is implied by law.
@@jordanhenshaw thank you. I have a rough draft already written. In going over the courts prosecutor transcript on day of sentencing so I have a good feel for what the state would have used as their most important points. They do not have a lot of hard evidence. The investigators stopped the clock on investigation I only have evidence they collected up to that point right? Everything we learned after sentencing goes out the window for me correct? There were several friends and family that gave statements before and after sentencing so this could be very tricky.
@@petsitter1969 The prison confession, I seriously doubt it would be admissible in a real court, but it can be included since it had such a dramatic impact on public perception. The goal of this mock trial is to influence public perception.
@@petsitter1969 Without a judge, admitting evidence is super hard. Only documents in the Discovery can be used as evidence. Other official Weld County documents can also be used, such as the official transcript of the prison confession. Unless you can provide a a government source, no video, audio or photo evidence. Because chain of custody otherwise couldn’t be verified.
@@jordanhenshaw can I use the text messages from Chris and Shananns cell phones? I'm digging through Shananns autopsy now. As you know we do not have access to all the findings. I'm hitting a wall on information available to me claims. Are we able to attack Chris's character by referring to the texts and/or statements by the witnesses of why he didn't report them missing,why it took him so long to get home when Nicole Atkins raised the alarm. Why he cancelled Bella's first day of school before he knew his family was missing? As your probably know the state has little to no forensics to back up Chris or Shanann as being the Murder of their children. I need to look up Colorados court rules bc I don't know if texts and official statements are considered hear say. I believe we are making our point before we've started. The state would have lost at least the charges for the girls do to lack of hard evidence. It's my belief that since this prosecutor didn't have hard evidence he would have to reference the text messages for timeline and Chris's state of mind.
Awesome video. You are so on track. This case should have went to trial but was shut down with a lightning bolt. Truth and justice played no part in this one. Folks should be very concerned that this happened. You could be next people!
At least all the times she said she was gonna strangle someone, Chris, etc. With all the pics of the children being covered and looking like they couldn't breathe properly. Oh and all the fake illnesses.
@@ashleyshelton3748 .............IKR?............And the PUBLIC facebook forum with her girls in every possible state of undress for all p*d*s worldwide to download to their playlists for their viewing pleasure. She was a very s*ck person.
Thank you Jordan 👌 Your extensive knowledge and dignified approach is absolutely excellent. I am looking forward to you exploring the all important... WHO....?? 🤔
So sorry I missed your request of me to participate as an expert witness. Unfortunately, I am traveling for a work project. Your extensive research is clearly evident in your presentation. Excellent work! This is what should have occurred initially. Can't wait to see the "trial" progress.
Hey, I think you're the person who used the BOP acronym? Is there any time in the future, after your travels you would consider something over Zoom? What you told me can be extremely useful for interpreting that prison confession.
I hope you are ready and prepared for what is about to come at you! You seem to be. So that's good. I hope it doesn't get too ugly for you. From the other side of the aisle.. you seem capable!! I've just seen it over and over . The bombarded. The hate mail. Etc. Good luck. I'm listening.........
Very well done. If I was on a jury I would have very real and significant doubts already! Of couse in the end it may have come down to the Jury Instruction phase. The Judge as was , was definitely less than objective, due to Rourke, supplying him with quite a number of 'happy snaps', of SW and the children ( only, no Chris) which he had spread out in front of him, on his bench, for the hearings! Diabolical, imo. It's a shame BCM, hasn't picked up the gaunlet and come over to prosecute. Seeing as he seems to know and believe, this was a just and righteous outcome, for all. With so many, in his premiere and comments lauding him on. It really does become so infuriating, seeing his ilk, use no critical thinking whatsoever. All the while waving that round of Swiss cheese, the discovery, around like it is gospel!🤬😤😫😭
I totally agree!! His videos on other cases are good but I do not at all agree with his Chris watts video…blatant disregard for so many facts in order to fit a narrative, all while defending the denial of proven fact by staying the channel “stands for advocacy of victims.” The truth is what matters. The girls were also victims, does the truth for them not matter? Chris watts may have been a victim as well….the error in logic for that video where he says he won’t discuss shananns “flaws,” because she is a victim is cockamamie. It’s too bad bc the guy is very eloquent but he’s being blind in this case….
If you haven't found a prosecutor I'd like to send you that essay. When you first posted about it you told us where to send the essay but I can't find your original post.
Your content is fascinating. May I ask if you truly believe that it's possible for Chris to have not committed all 4 murders or are you more concerned with a lack of objectivity that you observed when analyzing the case? (Full disclosure: I believe that he's guilty of the crime in it's entirety) Not exactly sure if I worded that correctly, but I hope you understand what I mean.
Excellent. The point about it being a "Who Done It" case is the real starting point which LE didn't want to investigate for dome reason. The way CW concealed the bodies, i believe, is a giant clue. He trested his wife's body differently because she was his only gictim. Otherwise he would have buried them altogether because it would have made no difference to him. But there was a big difference, a delineation between the children and Shanann, that delineation being who he killed. Notice how he left some bedding out in the ooen near the grave which LE found. Proving he applied a different standard to covering up his own misdeeds to how he tried to cover his wife's. He hoped the children's bodies would completely disappear, so her crime too would disappear.
Even Tammy Lee lamented that they didn't do any further investigations on this case, because Chris Watts readily pled guilty. In a way, if Chris Watts is guilty, which I believe he is, the fact he pled guilty without any further delays says something positive about his character (I can't use "admirable" for a child killer). Here is a clip where Tammy Lee says she wanted to examine all the evidence but didn't have a chance to: ua-cam.com/video/7Mw_L72MoVU/v-deo.html Link of the full video of where the clip above was taken from: ua-cam.com/video/gKYS_mcYnxo/v-deo.html (My personal opinion) Yes, according to Tammy, this investigation was cut short, therefore making it incomplete, because Chris Watts pled guilty in the midst of their preparation for a long trial. That's the consequence of Chris Watts' decision. Yes, I would have liked to have known the whole truth, but since I'm in the side of the aisle that believes he is guilty, I am not left with such disappointment. I have a feeling I will enjoy this mock trial being constructed here. It's the major "what if". Tammy admitted their investigation is incomplete, so I think you have the upper hand (as it would seem).
I've been thinking about making a video about my beef with Tammy for a couple years now. The only issue I have with her is that in the video (probably the one you linked), she said something like, "In that room, I didn't think for one second that Shanann could have hurt those girls, not at all." Because she was acting as an investigator, that statement is an admission of severe malpractice. The golden rule of investigation is that you don't make conclusions until after you've examined all the evidence. The prosecutor can make conclusions early on-they have to in order to file charges. It's the job of the investigation team to refrain from making conclusions so that they can act in the most unbiased, neutral way. I don't know what was going on behind the scenes of her interview there, but she was saying some pretty sketchy stuff that I personally find highly improper.
@@jordanhenshaw I would love to see your take on Tammy and her interview sometime! I’m enjoying your channel very much, thank you for all of your hard work on this and bringing all of the investigation and insightful thoughts of yours - to us in a way we can understand. Much appreciated.
@@jordanhenshaw , better to Be an arm chair attorney, than a fair Dr! You seem to have a real penchant for CW. You are not only his defender ( and from mostly ads for Thrive) you have done a fake psychological analysis of his victim and deemed HER to have the personality disorder. Lol. As an armed chair Dr. you are attempting to identify traits ( of a murder victim) but you do not even know what the traits mean. With him, you now have his interviews, and bizarre writings ( if you are keeping up), plus his crime, which all point to the real Personality Disorder. He did kill them all. And, professionals will rarely do any ( the fact that you call it a psychoanalysis, when it is coming from an arm chair defender and someone trying to use and manipulate things into be trait you do not even understand, is priceless. You rarely see any professional discussing any traits without any real testing of anything other than NPD. But you cannot analyze Shanann. UA-cam should not allow videos of someone trying to make a diagnosis, that clearly has no business even trying. But imagine, if someone that claimed SW was any of all of these things, decided to defend him in court too? What would that say about any analysis of her. Sounds to me like you desperately want and need him to be innocent. Why?
Still so many questions. If Chris was being followed by law enforcement from Monday morning onwards who raked the grave over on Wednesday morning? It rained heavily on Tuesday and should not have looked like that. I believe the girls only went in tanks in an attempt to dispose of the bodies who were all buried together on Monday and the girls were put in tanks on Wednesday morning and grave re-covered. Was someone helping Chris to dispose of the bodies? Was someone helping him all along? I do not believe SW had any part in this. If SW did this I strongly believe CW would have made this known. He does not want to be in prison.
He DID f-ing make it known. He told them that over and over again and then later, in a sealed affidavit! It was only after the knife to his neck, aka death penalty threat, and after the weeks and weeks of solitary confinement hell on earth that he signed his name on a piece of paper to plead guilty in exchange for a much better prison and no death penalty.
@@jordanhenshaw I mean make it known to his parents and continually tell them what actually happened if that was the truth. They have no clue and don't know for certain what actually happened. I always believed he said that because Tammy gave him the idea. I'd like to know who sent him the two text messages that arrive when he's sitting alone in the interview room and caused him to put his head in his hands. I've always found it very odd no messages arrive while Tammy and Coder are there with him, only once they've left the room.
@@privateeye6942i agree SW did not hurt her babies. I believe the small amount of people who actually believe she did are those who are projecting their feelings for someone in their own life who had a “Shanann” type personality. Not even Chris Watts is going with this narrative and I don’t see him as someone who is going to take the blame for murdering his children to protect his wife’s reputation, or even to avoid the death penalty, or for any reason. You are right that he would be at the very least telling his parents this is what really happened, but we know he is not. He also backed out of filing a 35C, his one opportunity to reopen the investigations in this case. The whole thing defies logic. I doubt whatever texts he got was the cause of him putting his head in his hands in the interview room. The agents took his phone for analysis wouldn’t they know what texts he received? There is a creator who wants his followers to believe he received the locations of where his family was during this text. Again, that makes no sense at all.
@@nancyn679 this case is still shrouded in mystery. I firmly believe if its true SW killed the children everyone would know this and CW wouldn't be silent about it. Why is he silent? His parents are clueless about what to believe and although are at peace with accepting he did it all himself, still struggle to believe he would do that to the kids and the reason for it. If he craved a life with N Kessinger so much would he really be pushed so far as to kill everyone and take them to his work place? Law enforcement use ground penetrating radar equipment and would have found the area of disturbed ground within days anyway. Every movement his truck made would have been followed and scrutinised. I believe there's a strong chance that once LE seized N Kessinger's phone they used it to continue messaging Chris to see what he would say back. You also need to keep in mind the found the grave at Cervi 319 before he confessed. Its pretty clear N Kessinger told them where they were. Regarding his phone and text messages. There's a long period of time where he gets questioned and his phone doesn't make a sound. But once Tammy and Coder leave the room and are watching him two text messages arrive. I also believe he was told some information in those texts. They were doing anything they could to push a confession and he duly confessed not long after those messages came in. Nothing is what is seems in this case. There's something majorly fishy going on.
@@privateeye6942 All good and fair points……. Why is he silent?. He is a coward and doesn’t care that his parents are tortured not knowing what happened. Whatever personality disorder he has that obviously flew under the radar for his entire life, caused him to not become attached to his children. He viewed them as replaceable and dispensable. It was easy for him to smother and dispose of them for NK. I don’t believe she helped him murder anyone but I do think she issued ultimatums that he interpreted as she wasn’t keen on the idea of him having “baggage” and with alimony and child support he wouldn’t have financial freedom. As for the texts he got in the interview room, if you are saying they were staged by the agents to be NK, then I do believe that could be a possibility. I don’t think anyone gave him info. His plan was dumb af, but he didn’t really have too many options with his truck gps and neighbors camera pointing his way. The agents figuring the bodies were at Cervi 319, didn’t take much detective work that’s where his gps led them. I don’t think there was any cover up. The fbi/CBI know where NK was from her gps. I’m going to bet they know the whereabouts of his coworkers as well. It was explained to me that they don’t include evidence that clears others in a discovery. I’ve got to believe those agencies have some skilled agents and they know (even if they didn’t make it all public) that CW did it all.
If you haven't found anyone to prosecute I'll give it a go if no one else is interested. I'm looking up the exact charges tonight. I have a couple questions. Will we need to stick to specific law's to the state of Colorado? Laws very state to state. As for the witnesses will be using the official witness statements when questioned by police? Or are we going to have stand in's ? I'll try my hardest to take CW down in court. However it's my personal belief that had CW went to trial he would not have been found guilty on half the charges he confessed to. I can play a devil's advocate. Maybe by having a Mock trial we could learn something to help explain this mystery.
You’re the first taker. Please see the Contact page on my channel. Colorado and federal law applies. I don’t have a judge, so it’s best informed guess. Those are the charges being used. You can only prosecute those, but the only ones you have to actually argue are the 1st Degree Murder charges.
Just to clarify I need to prove 3 first degree M's, and an additional 2 because Bella and Cece were under the age of 12 ? I do not have to address the 1 unlawful termination pregnancy (I could argue that and maybe get a jury to by it) or the 3 counts of body tampering. Correct? I'll be getting ahold of you through your other contact info when I have my opening statement done. I'm sure you'll want to look it over.
Ok… Wow 😳 this is a twist. I’ve thought that way but never dared to share. Is it me or was there no mention of DNA during the trial. And if not, is it because Chris Watts plead guilty?
I love mock trials. I took part in several while in high-school. I wish I was able to stick with it. The local big shot even told me once he would hire me. But my life didn't go that way. I do know alot about law. But have zero credentials. I wouldn't even try to hang with the big dogs. But I know how to not get fingered at least.
I've answered my own question by listening to your opening statement. I will be arguing one count of unlawful termination of pregnancy along with 5 counts of M
When able, I’ll send you his signed guilty plea with the details of all the charges on it. You may want to carefully review the details of the count below. Note that you can’t change it to a lesser charge.
COUNT6 :UNLAWFULTERMINATIONOFPREGNANCY IN THE FIRST DEGREE (F2): 1. Onoraboutthe134dayofAugust, 2018,ni the County ofWeld, State ofColorado;
2. CHRISTOPHER LEE WATTS, with the intent ot terminate unlawfully the pregnancy of a woman, namely: Shanann Watts,
3. feloniously and unlawfully
4. terminated the pregnancy of the woman.
.5 Further, the woman died as a result of the unlawful terminationof the pregnancy,
6. WITH INTENT- A person acts intentionally or with intentwhen his conscious objective is tocause the specific result proscribed by the statute defining the offense. It is immaterial whether or not the result actually occurred. 7. PREGNANCY means the presence ofan implanted human embryo or fetus within the uterus of a woman.
8. UNLAWFUL TERMINATION OFPREGNANCY means thetermination of a pregnancy by any means other than birth or a medical procedure, instrument, agent, or drug, for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person
authorized by law to act on her behalf, has been obtained, or for which the pregnant woman's consent is implied by law.
@@jordanhenshaw thank you. I have a rough draft already written. In going over the courts prosecutor transcript on day of sentencing so I have a good feel for what the state would have used as their most important points. They do not have a lot of hard evidence. The investigators stopped the clock on investigation I only have evidence they collected up to that point right? Everything we learned after sentencing goes out the window for me correct? There were several friends and family that gave statements before and after sentencing so this could be very tricky.
@@petsitter1969 The prison confession, I seriously doubt it would be admissible in a real court, but it can be included since it had such a dramatic impact on public perception. The goal of this mock trial is to influence public perception.
@@petsitter1969 Without a judge, admitting evidence is super hard. Only documents in the Discovery can be used as evidence. Other official Weld County documents can also be used, such as the official transcript of the prison confession.
Unless you can provide a a government source, no video, audio or photo evidence. Because chain of custody otherwise couldn’t be verified.
@@jordanhenshaw can I use the text messages from Chris and Shananns cell phones? I'm digging through Shananns autopsy now. As you know we do not have access to all the findings. I'm hitting a wall on information available to me claims. Are we able to attack Chris's character by referring to the texts and/or statements by the witnesses of why he didn't report them missing,why it took him so long to get home when Nicole Atkins raised the alarm. Why he cancelled Bella's first day of school before he knew his family was missing? As your probably know the state has little to no forensics to back up Chris or Shanann as being the Murder of their children. I need to look up Colorados court rules bc I don't know if texts and official statements are considered hear say. I believe we are making our point before we've started. The state would have lost at least the charges for the girls do to lack of hard evidence. It's my belief that since this prosecutor didn't have hard evidence he would have to reference the text messages for timeline and Chris's state of mind.
Awesome video. You are so on track. This case should have went to trial but was shut down with a lightning bolt. Truth and justice played no part in this one. Folks should be very concerned that this happened. You could be next people!
Great opening statement. Can't wait to hear more.
This was really good.
Jordan ❤️this is sooo good! And also you dress up like a lawyer. Thank you im excited for next video. Hugs from Sweden
Hopefully your mock trial will include how CPS fits in with SW and the children. That seems to be swept under the rug.
looking forward to also
At least all the times she said she was gonna strangle someone, Chris, etc. With all the pics of the children being covered and looking like they couldn't breathe properly. Oh and all the fake illnesses.
@@ashleyshelton3748 .............IKR?............And the PUBLIC facebook forum with her girls in every possible state of undress for all p*d*s worldwide to download to their playlists for their viewing pleasure. She was a very s*ck person.
@@brooksz.3143 indeed
Seriously!! Dieter barks once and she’s “I’m going to strangle that dog!” Scary 😟
Thank you Jordan 👌 Your extensive knowledge and dignified approach is absolutely excellent. I am looking forward to you exploring the all important... WHO....?? 🤔
So sorry I missed your request of me to participate as an expert witness. Unfortunately, I am traveling for a work project. Your extensive research is clearly evident in your presentation. Excellent work! This is what should have occurred initially. Can't wait to see the "trial" progress.
Hey, I think you're the person who used the BOP acronym? Is there any time in the future, after your travels you would consider something over Zoom? What you told me can be extremely useful for interpreting that prison confession.
@@jordanhenshaw Yes, that's me. I will contact you after I return to discuss. Thanks!
I hope you are ready and prepared for what is about to come at you! You seem to be. So that's good. I hope it doesn't get too ugly for you. From the other side of the aisle.. you seem capable!! I've just seen it over and over . The bombarded. The hate mail. Etc. Good luck. I'm listening.........
I think he can handle it ! (I know what you mean tho!!)
I'm sad that I missed the live. So excited to watch!!!
Watched the prosecutions opening first. I actually liked this one. More please
This is so very well done👏🏻👏🏻
CHRIS WATTS DIDNT DO THIS ON HIS OWN
Did he even do this at all? 🤔
That was brilliant!
I fucking love this channel
Brilliant! 👏👏👏
Crazy good Jordan!
Very unique and different. Keep up the good work. I'm really enjoying your channel.
That was great! You clean up NICE too 🥰😊🥰
Yes, I agree!!!
Your channel rocks 🎉
You know a good channel when you see one.................Kindred spirit!
@@brooksz.3143 yes !!!! I love his suit 😂🥰😍
@@brooksz.3143 me and my friend had some cocktails and disagreed on SW . I'm gonna convert her 😂😂 she just needs true information and facts.
@@hollys1159 ........That's easy..........So many great channels who expose her for what she was!
Mock means test not fact.
This is brilliant 👍
I am sorry for saying this, but we also do not know who killed SW 🤷♀
You look very smart and handsome 😍 Thanks for all the hard work on this video I really enjoy it.
Very well done. If I was on a jury I would have very real and significant doubts already! Of couse in the end it may have come down to the Jury Instruction phase. The Judge as was , was definitely less than objective, due to Rourke, supplying him with quite a number of 'happy snaps', of SW and the children ( only, no Chris) which he had spread out in front of him, on his bench, for the hearings! Diabolical, imo.
It's a shame BCM, hasn't picked up the gaunlet and come over to prosecute. Seeing as he seems to know and believe, this was a just and righteous outcome, for all. With so many, in his premiere and comments lauding him on. It really does become so infuriating, seeing his ilk, use no critical thinking whatsoever. All the while waving that round of Swiss cheese, the discovery, around like it is gospel!🤬😤😫😭
I totally agree!! His videos on other cases are good but I do not at all agree with his Chris watts video…blatant disregard for so many facts in order to fit a narrative, all while defending the denial of proven fact by staying the channel “stands for advocacy of victims.” The truth is what matters. The girls were also victims, does the truth for them not matter? Chris watts may have been a victim as well….the error in logic for that video where he says he won’t discuss shananns “flaws,” because she is a victim is cockamamie. It’s too bad bc the guy is very eloquent but he’s being blind in this case….
Very impressive
Any contenders?
If you haven't found a prosecutor I'd like to send you that essay. When you first posted about it you told us where to send the essay but I can't find your original post.
JORDAN YOU DO A GREAT JOB 👍
Your content is fascinating. May I ask if you truly believe that it's possible for Chris to have not committed all 4 murders or are you more concerned with a lack of objectivity that you observed when analyzing the case? (Full disclosure: I believe that he's guilty of the crime in it's entirety) Not exactly sure if I worded that correctly, but I hope you understand what I mean.
@@yuukichan12 I think his first confession story was the most accurate as to who killed who and why.
Excellent.
The point about it being a "Who Done It" case is the real starting point which LE didn't want to investigate for dome reason.
The way CW concealed the bodies, i believe, is a giant clue.
He trested his wife's body differently because she was his only gictim.
Otherwise he would have buried them altogether because it would have made no difference to him.
But there was a big difference, a delineation between the children and Shanann, that delineation being who he killed.
Notice how he left some bedding out in the ooen near the grave which LE found.
Proving he applied a different standard to covering up his own misdeeds to how he tried to cover his wife's.
He hoped the children's bodies would completely disappear, so her crime too would disappear.
JORDON HENSHAW YOU ARE RIGHT ✅️ ON THE MONEY
Basement trial? Closet trial? Garage trial?
Are u doin this for school?
Even Tammy Lee lamented that they didn't do any further investigations on this case, because Chris Watts readily pled guilty. In a way, if Chris Watts is guilty, which I believe he is, the fact he pled guilty without any further delays says something positive about his character (I can't use "admirable" for a child killer).
Here is a clip where Tammy Lee says she wanted to examine all the evidence but didn't have a chance to:
ua-cam.com/video/7Mw_L72MoVU/v-deo.html
Link of the full video of where the clip above was taken from:
ua-cam.com/video/gKYS_mcYnxo/v-deo.html
(My personal opinion) Yes, according to Tammy, this investigation was cut short, therefore making it incomplete, because Chris Watts pled guilty in the midst of their preparation for a long trial. That's the consequence of Chris Watts' decision. Yes, I would have liked to have known the whole truth, but since I'm in the side of the aisle that believes he is guilty, I am not left with such disappointment.
I have a feeling I will enjoy this mock trial being constructed here. It's the major "what if". Tammy admitted their investigation is incomplete, so I think you have the upper hand (as it would seem).
I've been thinking about making a video about my beef with Tammy for a couple years now. The only issue I have with her is that in the video (probably the one you linked), she said something like, "In that room, I didn't think for one second that Shanann could have hurt those girls, not at all." Because she was acting as an investigator, that statement is an admission of severe malpractice. The golden rule of investigation is that you don't make conclusions until after you've examined all the evidence. The prosecutor can make conclusions early on-they have to in order to file charges. It's the job of the investigation team to refrain from making conclusions so that they can act in the most unbiased, neutral way.
I don't know what was going on behind the scenes of her interview there, but she was saying some pretty sketchy stuff that I personally find highly improper.
@@jordanhenshaw Good point
@@jordanhenshaw I would love to see your take on Tammy and her interview sometime! I’m enjoying your channel very much, thank you for all of your hard work on this and bringing all of the investigation and insightful thoughts of yours - to us in a way we can understand. Much appreciated.
The dreaded Tammburglar.
Now, you are a Psychologist and an attorney! 😂😂😂😂😂
*armchair
@@jordanhenshaw , better to
Be an arm chair attorney, than a fair Dr! You seem to have a real penchant for CW. You are not only his defender ( and from mostly ads for Thrive) you have done a fake psychological analysis of his victim and deemed HER to have the personality disorder. Lol. As an armed chair Dr. you are attempting to identify traits ( of a murder victim) but you do not even know what the traits mean. With him, you now have his interviews, and bizarre writings ( if you are keeping up), plus his crime, which all point to the real Personality Disorder. He did kill them all. And, professionals will rarely do any ( the fact that you call it a psychoanalysis, when it is coming from an arm chair defender and someone trying to use and manipulate things into be trait you do not even understand, is priceless. You rarely see any professional discussing any traits without any real testing of anything other than NPD. But you cannot analyze Shanann. UA-cam should not allow videos of someone trying to make a diagnosis, that clearly has no business even trying.
But imagine, if someone that claimed SW was any of all of these things, decided to defend him in court too? What would that say about any analysis of her. Sounds to me like you desperately want and need him to be innocent. Why?
You’re reported!
Okay.
Still so many questions.
If Chris was being followed by law enforcement from Monday morning onwards who raked the grave over on Wednesday morning? It rained heavily on Tuesday and should not have looked like that.
I believe the girls only went in tanks in an attempt to dispose of the bodies who were all buried together on Monday and the girls were put in tanks on Wednesday morning and grave re-covered.
Was someone helping Chris to dispose of the bodies? Was someone helping him all along?
I do not believe SW had any part in this.
If SW did this I strongly believe CW would have made this known. He does not want to be in prison.
He DID f-ing make it known. He told them that over and over again and then later, in a sealed affidavit! It was only after the knife to his neck, aka death penalty threat, and after the weeks and weeks of solitary confinement hell on earth that he signed his name on a piece of paper to plead guilty in exchange for a much better prison and no death penalty.
@@jordanhenshaw I mean make it known to his parents and continually tell them what actually happened if that was the truth. They have no clue and don't know for certain what actually happened.
I always believed he said that because Tammy gave him the idea.
I'd like to know who sent him the two text messages that arrive when he's sitting alone in the interview room and caused him to put his head in his hands. I've always found it very odd no messages arrive while Tammy and Coder are there with him, only once they've left the room.
@@privateeye6942i agree SW did not hurt her babies. I believe the small amount of people who actually believe she did are those who are projecting their feelings for someone in their own life who had a “Shanann” type personality. Not even Chris Watts is going with this narrative and I don’t see him as someone who is going to take the blame for murdering his children to protect his wife’s reputation, or even to avoid the death penalty, or for any reason. You are right that he would be at the very least telling his parents this is what really happened, but we know he is not. He also backed out of filing a 35C, his one opportunity to reopen the investigations in this case. The whole thing defies logic. I doubt whatever texts he got was the cause of him putting his head in his hands in the interview room. The agents took his phone for analysis wouldn’t they know what texts he received? There is a creator who wants his followers to believe he received the locations of where his family was during this text. Again, that makes no sense at all.
@@nancyn679 this case is still shrouded in mystery. I firmly believe if its true SW killed the children everyone would know this and CW wouldn't be silent about it. Why is he silent? His parents are clueless about what to believe and although are at peace with accepting he did it all himself, still struggle to believe he would do that to the kids and the reason for it.
If he craved a life with N Kessinger so much would he really be pushed so far as to kill everyone and take them to his work place? Law enforcement use ground penetrating radar equipment and would have found the area of disturbed ground within days anyway. Every movement his truck made would have been followed and scrutinised.
I believe there's a strong chance that once LE seized N Kessinger's phone they used it to continue messaging Chris to see what he would say back.
You also need to keep in mind the found the grave at Cervi 319 before he confessed. Its pretty clear N Kessinger told them where they were.
Regarding his phone and text messages. There's a long period of time where he gets questioned and his phone doesn't make a sound. But once Tammy and Coder leave the room and are watching him two text messages arrive.
I also believe he was told some information in those texts. They were doing anything they could to push a confession and he duly confessed not long after those messages came in.
Nothing is what is seems in this case. There's something majorly fishy going on.
@@privateeye6942 All good and fair points……. Why is he silent?. He is a coward and doesn’t care that his parents are tortured not knowing what happened. Whatever personality disorder he has that obviously flew under the radar for his entire life, caused him to not become attached to his children. He viewed them as replaceable and dispensable. It was easy for him to smother and dispose of them for NK. I don’t believe she helped him murder anyone but I do think she issued ultimatums that he interpreted as she wasn’t keen on the idea of him having “baggage” and with alimony and child support he wouldn’t have financial freedom.
As for the texts he got in the interview room, if you are saying they were staged by the agents to be NK, then I do believe that could be a possibility. I don’t think anyone gave him info. His plan was dumb af, but he didn’t really have too many options with his truck gps and neighbors camera pointing his way. The agents figuring the bodies were at Cervi 319, didn’t take much detective work that’s where his gps led them. I don’t think there was any cover up. The fbi/CBI know where NK was from her gps. I’m going to bet they know the whereabouts of his coworkers as well. It was explained to me that they don’t include evidence that clears others in a discovery. I’ve got to believe those agencies have some skilled agents and they know (even if they didn’t make it all public) that CW did it all.
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If you haven't found anyone to prosecute I'll give it a go if no one else is interested. I'm looking up the exact charges tonight. I have a couple questions. Will we need to stick to specific law's to the state of Colorado? Laws very state to state. As for the witnesses will be using the official witness statements when questioned by police? Or are we going to have stand in's ? I'll try my hardest to take CW down in court. However it's my personal belief that had CW went to trial he would not have been found guilty on half the charges he confessed to. I can play a devil's advocate. Maybe by having a Mock trial we could learn something to help explain this mystery.
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Colorado and federal law applies. I don’t have a judge, so it’s best informed guess.
Those are the charges being used. You can only prosecute those, but the only ones you have to actually argue are the 1st Degree Murder charges.
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Just to clarify I need to prove 3 first degree M's, and an additional 2 because Bella and Cece were under the age of 12 ?
I do not have to address the
1 unlawful termination pregnancy (I could argue that and maybe get a jury to by it) or the 3 counts of body tampering. Correct? I'll be getting ahold of you through your other contact info when I have my opening statement done. I'm sure you'll want to look it over.
@@petsitter1969 Your job is to lock him up for life using any of the charges the DA filed.
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Ok… Wow 😳 this is a twist. I’ve thought that way but never dared to share. Is it me or was there no mention of DNA during the trial. And if not, is it because Chris Watts plead guilty?
I love mock trials. I took part in several while in high-school. I wish I was able to stick with it. The local big shot even told me once he would hire me. But my life didn't go that way. I do know alot about law. But have zero credentials. I wouldn't even try to hang with the big dogs. But I know how to not get fingered at least.
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