"And it was not their force of will, not their Void devilry, not their alien darkness... it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly broken thing... and take away its pain." I know it's from a different quest, but it fits perfectly.
This exact quote was what I was thinking as this scene happened. I was expecting a huge boss fight but the subtle callback to the umbra quest line was appreciated all the same.
Makes me think that the way we’ll defeat the man in the wall won’t be by destroying him, but by inviting him in and helping him. He wants to be apart of what we got going on, we can show him how to do that.
@@Arthera0seeing as the person is making a direct quote to Elie Wiesel, a holocaust survivor and writer, I don't think the person is looking for words. It is a quote, after all.
This scene literally fueled me up for an epic boss battle only to humble me in the most poetically beautiful way possible. That tender caress to contrast the raging indifference....it was beautiful
When I finished the quest and this played, I was just... _enraptured_ by the scene playing before me and the music that accompanied it. It all felt like Albrecht's final goodbye to Loid, saying if anything goes wrong, please keep living for me.
@@edgyelectrokinetic6761yeah. Loid is even cupping his own face like we are the other Vessel in the cutscene. It’s 100% Loid’s negative emotions taking shape and controlling the Vessel. Hell, it’s even foreshadowed when Loid is talking and you encounter Wally sitting on a vessel, where Wally literally tried to make Loid angry on purpose, to make him more emotional.
@@dr.tursko2312 No, it was deferentially controlled by The man in the wall because we can clearly hear and see him on top of that Vessel, but he be might be influenced by loid's emotions. furthermore Loid himself said that only The Chosen Operator can control the vessels, but Wally can also control them because he is the one who gave the Operator his powers in the first place.
There are no words to describe how beautiful this part is, the vessel's expression when you place your hand on its cheek is so emotional and beautiful. My favorite quest so far.
Adding to that that if you keep talking to the necracells cat (forgot the name) he says that he thinks the indifference is lonely and trying to reach out to us but doesn't know how
The Man in the Wall, the Indifference... A cresture born of curiosity & the hidden psychological traumas of a troubled genius. Finding itself, as Fibonacci put it, subjected to "the horror of suddenly existing" only to also find that it was... infinite in a sea of infinity. It wants everything, but cannot care about anything. It's trapped in itself & everything around it. It's to be pitied & loved as much as it is to be fought.
Thank you for uploading this one part. I loved the song that played here Now all i need is the song that plays at the screen you can see the completed quests
This is such an amazing piece. We don't know, what is being said, but that doesn't matter. Two voices, two people, calling and responding. Melancholic but also so peaceful. A perfect musical representation of this scene, where something void of all emotion experiences compassion!
This really got me thinking. Due to the story being spread around so many years, many details have become very fuzzy. But some weird things start standing out. The "man in the wall" might not be the same being as the "Indifference". The Man in the Wall and our doppelganger (the indifference) have been seen separately at multiple occasions now. Whatever they are also seem to react strongly to emotion. Rell's dangerous shadow chasing you, or the giant titan here being controlled by Loid's resentment and anger. The man in the wall also seem to talk very little, only repeating the same question over and over in the strange language. Then there is also the fact that Albrecht at some point seemed uncertain whether he himself was the real Albrecht, or if he is the void entity while the real Albrecht got stuck in the void (switching places). It might be possible that they don't call us "devils" for nothing, and that we are (unknowingly) not the actual Tenno, but copies that think they are the original. (or the Indifference simply hitchhikes inside our body, but that one sounds less interesting considering how High Fantasy Warframe is going) It might even be that the Indifference atm does really not care at all about harming or saving us, but the negative emotions of those around our characters simply force the entity to act upon them (act on emotion, negative and positive) One of the NPC's in the Zariman (Cavalero) does mention atm that when he wanted to make upgrades for the Incarnate weapons, the void simply created what he imagined, making it possible. The void (and likely in extension, the Indifference) seems to react to emotion. Its likely that the void really just was that, a void of nothing. Untill Albrecht entered it and his thoughts and emotions gave shape to things (and all the other's who entered the void later on) The man in the wall is another story, his look, and his "dimension" of sky's of open mouths and sand dunes is not very "void" like. I feel like he's something else entirely. Considering the current way we are going, I feel that the "Indifference" is part of the "void" (space) so the Man of the wall with all his sand is likely a reference to "time"?
"Just as it has always been, when our memories of the ancient world fade into twilight, a new era dawns to fill the void; an unfamiliar path with a pulse of its own, a tempo not dictated by the labor of men, but accelerated by the rhythm of machines..." (The joke is that this sounds very vaguely like Terra Novum, the opening music for Civ 5 Brave New World)
Ya ra cheli ra (ya ra cheli ra) Shor nas cheli ra (x2) I don't know what it means, but I'm willing to bet it's something to do with Albrecht's last words to Loid. It could be the closure Loid was missing, since he was so filled with anger and pain from Albrecht's sudden departure. We know Manny likes to inhabit the (figurative) voids of spaces and people's hearts to take advantage of emotional dissonance and we know the Void is heavily influenced by strong emotions. The Operator was frustrated they couldn't understand their purpose, Albrecht was resentful for being rejected for his ideas about the Void. There's a chance even Lotus made a deal with Manny, since her situation was a real plate of spaghetti and she seemed familiar with what she was looking at when the wall came in to chat. It could also be using this new Voidtongue language for an anti-purpose. We hear its chanting, bellowing pagan voices calling wicked names and prayers, encouraging these titans made specifically for war by someone who was not particularly interested in it. Albrecht thought of Loid constantly, he thought of his animals, and his inventions were less to fight a war and more to see if he could make them work like he'd imagined. If these titans, who have only ever experienced anger and frustration, directed towards hostility, but built with the capacity to love, experienced loving compassion for the first time, they'd fall apart emotionally. If you approach the embraced titan in the sanctum, you can hear its heartbeat and Albrecht's beeper ringtone on the cliff is a heavily-condensed version of Loid's theme. We're meant to tie two and two together and suggest these titans represent Albrecht and Loid, where Loid raged from confusion and sorrow until he finally got to hear his partner's departing words, even if he wasn't ready to hear them, and enjoy the memories of his partner instead of regretting them.
I have an idea for the next big quest: So we now finally have all of our questions answered from the new war, right? Well, the answers to these questions just lead to more questions such as: What if the archons try to get the lotus? What if the zariman shifts a bit and makes an opening big enough to unleash the horrors of the void into the origin system? What if duviri tries to invade the origin system? What if the murmur breaks free of the labs? All of these questions could end up leading to a quest even bigger than the new war. Just imagine having to use multiple railjacks to put the zariman back into place, having a massive war on deimos between the infested and the murmur, fighting against armies of dax soldiers with your warframe and protecting the lotus from the archons and pazuul. And ad a final boss to the quest, you could fight the one, the only, the man in the wall. It would be the greatest quest to ever exist in the history of warframe and would tie up many loose ends. The only problem I see with this quest is trying to get archon hunts back after the quest since you'd probably fight pazuul in it.
Not gonna lie, I love what each side represents. Loid's vessel being on the side of the Indifference since his lacking empathy was what gave strength to it and Albrecht's on the side of his lab, reminding him of the love and appreciation he showed on their final moments together and the things he wished to have said to him in the past.
........ As beautiful as this is..... the whole story just... feels as though it doesnt fit Warframe, as if it was meant for something more than Warframe... But I'm glad to have played it in Warframe all the same.
“Aw my God bruh…” “Aw-“ vine boom sound effect “-h naw man what da f man.” “Who invited this kid?” “Getcho a on boa...” unintelligible noises of discomfort “If yeen getcho gyat damn uglahh on-“
"And it was not their force of will,
not their Void devilry,
not their alien darkness...
it was something else.
It was that somehow,
from within the derelict-horror,
they had learned a way to see inside an ugly broken thing...
and take away its pain."
I know it's from a different quest, but it fits perfectly.
War criminal child pseudotherapists strike again
okay cool im glad im not the only person who thought of that scene when this happened
This exact quote was what I was thinking as this scene happened. I was expecting a huge boss fight but the subtle callback to the umbra quest line was appreciated all the same.
Makes me think that the way we’ll defeat the man in the wall won’t be by destroying him, but by inviting him in and helping him. He wants to be apart of what we got going on, we can show him how to do that.
Beautiful and true
The greatest enemy of indiference, compasion.
That's actually really good.
Hate to be that guy but it’s spelled compassion
@@lucasy4790 well thanks, english is not my first language, but i have a good grasp of it
@@TheProphetOfThePan Well said!
That’s love right there
"Remember, the opposite of Love is not Hate, it is Indifference."
Actually it is the opposite of both love and hate, as those are strong emotions. indifference is the lack of both.
compassion is the word you seek. hate and love are opposites
@@Arthera0seeing as the person is making a direct quote to Elie Wiesel, a holocaust survivor and writer, I don't think the person is looking for words. It is a quote, after all.
This scene literally fueled me up for an epic boss battle only to humble me in the most poetically beautiful way possible. That tender caress to contrast the raging indifference....it was beautiful
When I finished the quest and this played, I was just... _enraptured_ by the scene playing before me and the music that accompanied it. It all felt like Albrecht's final goodbye to Loid, saying if anything goes wrong, please keep living for me.
One detail I adore about this song is how both voices start out calling to one another, but end singing in unison
You know the tenno are good deep down when they made an Entity called "the indifference" feel sad.
I think the other giant was being controlled by Loid’s resentful emotions.
Like the first reply, I'm pretty sure Wally was subdued by Loids feelings towards Albrecht
@@edgyelectrokinetic6761yeah. Loid is even cupping his own face like we are the other Vessel in the cutscene. It’s 100% Loid’s negative emotions taking shape and controlling the Vessel.
Hell, it’s even foreshadowed when Loid is talking and you encounter Wally sitting on a vessel, where Wally literally tried to make Loid angry on purpose, to make him more emotional.
I think, that Indifference felt relief and bliss in that moment.
@@dr.tursko2312 No, it was deferentially controlled by The man in the wall because we can clearly hear and see him on top of that Vessel, but he be might be influenced by loid's emotions. furthermore Loid himself said that only The Chosen Operator can control the vessels, but Wally can also control them because he is the one who gave the Operator his powers in the first place.
There are no words to describe how beautiful this part is, the vessel's expression when you place your hand on its cheek is so emotional and beautiful. My favorite quest so far.
Leaned into that hand like a love deprived child, his whole body went limp. Beautiful!
Adding to that that if you keep talking to the necracells cat (forgot the name) he says that he thinks the indifference is lonely and trying to reach out to us but doesn't know how
@@oakensiren4423 Tagfer. The name's Tagfer
I was so prepared for the tap E to be a giant void laser, but I was so surprised and pleased that it was this instead.
The Man in the Wall, the Indifference...
A cresture born of curiosity & the hidden psychological traumas of a troubled genius. Finding itself, as Fibonacci put it, subjected to "the horror of suddenly existing" only to also find that it was... infinite in a sea of infinity.
It wants everything, but cannot care about anything. It's trapped in itself & everything around it. It's to be pitied & loved as much as it is to be fought.
Touching your homie's cheek a day keep eldritch monstrosities at bay!
id rather touch that eldritch monstrosity....
if you know what i mean 😏
💀💀
****Based****
I read it with grandmother's voice
Love, the only thing that holds back indifference.
Hatred also holds back indifference.
What they have in common is passion.
@@lmlagg*COMpassion
@@lmlagg grief as well
This scene made me cry
Same
Thank you for uploading this one part. I loved the song that played here
Now all i need is the song that plays at the screen you can see the completed quests
This went from oh boy titan fight to patrick saying i live you very quickly
🎶 Have a jellyyyyyy bruh 🎵
💀
Rizzing up the indifference
If that's the language needed to convey healing and growth then so be it
this ending was literally "i have no enemies"
In the actual scene we can see The man in the wall's eyes fading out from the vessel
This is such an amazing piece. We don't know, what is being said, but that doesn't matter. Two voices, two people, calling and responding. Melancholic but also so peaceful. A perfect musical representation of this scene, where something void of all emotion experiences compassion!
"Time can never mend, a careless whisper from a good friend" - Loid
This really got me thinking.
Due to the story being spread around so many years, many details have become very fuzzy.
But some weird things start standing out.
The "man in the wall" might not be the same being as the "Indifference".
The Man in the Wall and our doppelganger (the indifference) have been seen separately at multiple occasions now.
Whatever they are also seem to react strongly to emotion.
Rell's dangerous shadow chasing you, or the giant titan here being controlled by Loid's resentment and anger.
The man in the wall also seem to talk very little, only repeating the same question over and over in the strange language.
Then there is also the fact that Albrecht at some point seemed uncertain whether he himself was the real Albrecht, or if he is the void entity while the real Albrecht got stuck in the void (switching places).
It might be possible that they don't call us "devils" for nothing, and that we are (unknowingly) not the actual Tenno, but copies that think they are the original.
(or the Indifference simply hitchhikes inside our body, but that one sounds less interesting considering how High Fantasy Warframe is going)
It might even be that the Indifference atm does really not care at all about harming or saving us, but the negative emotions of those around our characters simply force the entity to act upon them (act on emotion, negative and positive)
One of the NPC's in the Zariman (Cavalero) does mention atm that when he wanted to make upgrades for the Incarnate weapons, the void simply created what he imagined, making it possible.
The void (and likely in extension, the Indifference) seems to react to emotion.
Its likely that the void really just was that, a void of nothing.
Untill Albrecht entered it and his thoughts and emotions gave shape to things (and all the other's who entered the void later on)
The man in the wall is another story, his look, and his "dimension" of sky's of open mouths and sand dunes is not very "void" like.
I feel like he's something else entirely.
Considering the current way we are going, I feel that the "Indifference" is part of the "void" (space)
so the Man of the wall with all his sand is likely a reference to "time"?
compassion is telling a thing that you neither love or hate, "i want to understand". and if it could not, it will say, "you can be here as much as I."
"Just as it has always been, when our memories of the ancient world fade into twilight, a new era dawns to fill the void; an unfamiliar path with a pulse of its own, a tempo not dictated by the labor of men, but accelerated by the rhythm of machines..."
(The joke is that this sounds very vaguely like Terra Novum, the opening music for Civ 5 Brave New World)
Entrati: Sometimes I still hear his voice
Man In The Wall: Gay, Gay, Homosexual, Gay
😂😂😂😂
The indifirence: looks like i found a fine little twink
Ya ra cheli ra (ya ra cheli ra)
Shor nas cheli ra
(x2)
I don't know what it means, but I'm willing to bet it's something to do with Albrecht's last words to Loid. It could be the closure Loid was missing, since he was so filled with anger and pain from Albrecht's sudden departure. We know Manny likes to inhabit the (figurative) voids of spaces and people's hearts to take advantage of emotional dissonance and we know the Void is heavily influenced by strong emotions.
The Operator was frustrated they couldn't understand their purpose, Albrecht was resentful for being rejected for his ideas about the Void. There's a chance even Lotus made a deal with Manny, since her situation was a real plate of spaghetti and she seemed familiar with what she was looking at when the wall came in to chat.
It could also be using this new Voidtongue language for an anti-purpose. We hear its chanting, bellowing pagan voices calling wicked names and prayers, encouraging these titans made specifically for war by someone who was not particularly interested in it. Albrecht thought of Loid constantly, he thought of his animals, and his inventions were less to fight a war and more to see if he could make them work like he'd imagined.
If these titans, who have only ever experienced anger and frustration, directed towards hostility, but built with the capacity to love, experienced loving compassion for the first time, they'd fall apart emotionally. If you approach the embraced titan in the sanctum, you can hear its heartbeat and Albrecht's beeper ringtone on the cliff is a heavily-condensed version of Loid's theme. We're meant to tie two and two together and suggest these titans represent Albrecht and Loid, where Loid raged from confusion and sorrow until he finally got to hear his partner's departing words, even if he wasn't ready to hear them, and enjoy the memories of his partner instead of regretting them.
To give Compassion is understand pain. To give Forgiveness, one must accept their responsibility.
Hey, could you perhaps make an extended version of this chant? It's really good
The way I was stunned when this happened and this played
yara jelly rah
"Tenno.... O-Operator.... Come here"
🎵 Yara Jeliira (Yara Jeliira)
Shonatz Jelira
Un Kah Re Uu Kah Re
Deliira Ve
Yara Jeliira (Yara Jeliira)
Shonatz Jelira 🎵
I really hope there will be a full song around this at some point, absolutely gorgeous music
I have an idea for the next big quest:
So we now finally have all of our questions answered from the new war, right? Well, the answers to these questions just lead to more questions such as:
What if the archons try to get the lotus?
What if the zariman shifts a bit and makes an opening big enough to unleash the horrors of the void into the origin system?
What if duviri tries to invade the origin system?
What if the murmur breaks free of the labs?
All of these questions could end up leading to a quest even bigger than the new war. Just imagine having to use multiple railjacks to put the zariman back into place, having a massive war on deimos between the infested and the murmur, fighting against armies of dax soldiers with your warframe and protecting the lotus from the archons and pazuul. And ad a final boss to the quest, you could fight the one, the only, the man in the wall. It would be the greatest quest to ever exist in the history of warframe and would tie up many loose ends.
The only problem I see with this quest is trying to get archon hunts back after the quest since you'd probably fight pazuul in it.
Please somebody make a extended version of this song 😭
Not gonna lie, I love what each side represents. Loid's vessel being on the side of the Indifference since his lacking empathy was what gave strength to it and Albrecht's on the side of his lab, reminding him of the love and appreciation he showed on their final moments together and the things he wished to have said to him in the past.
ooo perfect length for ringtones :D
The Operator used Compassion. It was super effective!
Love it
Nice
Oh yes! You separated this part thank you!
Why in the world are these tracks not on Spotify or bandcamp or *anything*???
I like how the arm clips through the sand during the cutscene.
Reminds me of someone I know especially with the quote.
I was surprised by the ending of the quest. It is diff from the other quests for sure.
Did anyone else hear rap tap tap after getting the grimoire
man i could really go for some jelly lol
I can't unhear the singer repeatedly saying "jelly"
You're a jay leerer
Shawn us, jay leerer
So the indifference is sad or something? May be it can be healed?
Is there a full version of this? Also, what are the lyrics?
Anybody got an idea on what is being said here?
Yo, did they release the music with a translation?
Song lyrics and meaning?😊
Been playin for 9/10 years and don’t understand lord from the past 5 years lol
Did we seriously beat the Man in the Wall with the power of love and friendship?
Yes
Yes we fuckin did 😎
That's how we keep our Warframes under control, so not unprecedented
YARA JELIIRA
Hell yeah! Saving the world, one gay relationship at a time!
Warframe always keeps me on my toes, because 2 giant naked gay men were not something I expected
........ As beautiful as this is..... the whole story just... feels as though it doesnt fit Warframe, as if it was meant for something more than Warframe... But I'm glad to have played it in Warframe all the same.
“Aw my God bruh…” “Aw-“ vine boom sound effect “-h naw man what da f man.” “Who invited this kid?” “Getcho a on boa...” unintelligible noises of discomfort “If yeen getcho gyat damn uglahh on-“
Press E to be gay
What does it have to do?
PD: I already finished the adventure
I mean I'm female but I'd hit on mitw 😂 👀 he daddy 😂
caressing the face of a person with no biological relation is mostly seen as an act of romantical love@@WolfsHunter
Shut up please, if you think it was gay, you are worse than the indifference itself.
Yeah@@gabrielgaming1102 this one was pretty gay.
This is probably the most anti-climatic ending ever. I was ready to go full Eren Jaeger on than man
I didn’t like this quest at all. It just felt disjointed and sloppy. Story didn’t really interest me either.
Explain?
And you're entitled to your wrong opinion.
this is one of em thats gonna stick for the rest of my days