I love pre-release tier lists. There is almost always a S rank card that turns out to be trash, and a F rank that ends up God tier that breaks the game. Popcorn at the ready....
I doubt any of the F-rated cards will break the game, though Saarun (at C-tier) has a shot. Some of these S-rated cards will end up being stinkers though ;)
@@Shooshawali Lmao. It's literally not content. It does absolutely nothing. I barely even notice what board I'm on. If it was something actually impactful then sure, but boards are nothing. If the game had nothing but the base board, I would not care in the slightest.
The way I read the Xort'toh card is that you get 4 total stars (2 on each side), meaning two rounds of explosions for 10 damage total. The way I read Uluu is that *Uluu* will gain the Choose One choices, which I imagine you then select from when you finally play the card. I can see Lumia being incredibly oppressive, particularly as a 6-mana card. The only potentially saving grace is that the immunity applies to both heroes.
Can you explain more about how Kil'jaeden's portal works? Does it summon one demon whenever you would draw a card? How big do the demons start out? Are they 3/2 imps like with Sargeras' portal? Are they random demons?
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I’ve had great use from 8 hands in the prerelease, gets rid of the bad draws late game and puts your opponent on a clock if they don’t play kiljayden, and when my deck ran low I’d just play kil myself
I've been reading the Uluu card as it just adds two bonus effects every turn. So if you kept it in your opening hand it would have them all by t5. Does it just cycle through random pairs instead? That's certainly worse.
Gorm should be changed so that it repeats all deathrattles it triggered when it wakes up or it gains them as a deathrattle as well. Let you build a huge, impactful beast
K'ure is overrated here. Scamming boards early is not a thing for that card. Since this outside of Wild, Priest doesn't have lots of 0 cost spells. Unless you highroll into having K'ure next to a couple of Orbital Halo's you're not getting boards particularly early. Like your "Good value" turn of having 2 Holy spells and 1 other spell is at minimum a turn 6 play (IF you're running cards like Flash Heal and Holy Smite as 1 cost Holy spells). Turn 6 summoning 3 x 3 drops as a highroll on a Legendary... Compared to y'know... Razzle Dazzler summoning 3-4x 5 drops as an Epic you can run multiple copies of... Card is F tier. You're literally better off using Cheese than K'ure.
Completely agree. Gorgonzormu is definitely better than this in almost every situation. Another card to draw a comparison to is Heartthrob, which can consistently scam out boards with random 3-cost minions (there's a lot of 'free' heal 3 effects) using a similar mechanic, with the potential to summon some ~7 cost minions as well. That that minion doesn't really see competitive play is telling about K'ure's power level.
I think Maladaar will be surprisingly bad considering in rainbow DK you use most of your corpses in Corpsicles, to a point that card should/could be cut. But at the same time the most damage machine you have with the deck is through them... so idk, im skeptical.
I think the 8 hands from beyond is really good. Just load the deck up with a bunch of high value high mana cards that don't rely on other cards for synergy, which death knight does really well btw. Then you drop the card and your opponent either loses their synergy/combo cards or has to enter in to lategame with WAY less value than you do and you have a massive advantage. I think this card is good for the same reason Boomboss is good, its designed to win lategames for you.
Boom boss is good because it almost has an instant effect and punishes opponent draw. 8 hands is too slow and key cards are usually expensive so it won’t even hit critical pieces.
@@burgerandy2729 Boom boss is only good because it hits hand and board as well, especially hand where your opponent usually keeps their most valuable cards/combo pieces.
Rogue spaceship looked cool, but during the early access, Rogue seems to be very weak. The swings are HUGE from other classes. There will be a lot of balance changes happening early in this expansion.
I will say the same thing to you that I did to Rarran: Nobundo is going to be a problem specifically because of Wish Upon a Star. As long as you don't get turbo aggroed down, you just win. I don't think it will be that consistent, but it will be annoying enough that it'll be up there. And I'm sure there's ways to cheat it out I'm not seeing
Meh you don't really want to be running it for that though, you can already run hagatha into shudderblock the slime for +6/+9 which will win you games if you hit it but its not consistent enough to build a deck around, more like a nice potential payoff for reno shaman atm.
@@ShadowmancerLord I mean its not really do nothing especially when you combo it with other cards like frog staff or 1 mana deal 2 summon two taunts to buff, your 5 mana slot is open to play another slime or doctor holidae so you have plenty of options, not to mention the large amount of healing and you should be completely fine to do it most of the time if its a play that will win you the matchup, if you are going against aggro then you don't really need the extra stats as value so you just don't shudderblock it usually.
@@RedEyeStorm7 but... you can do those same things with this card. And in fact you can spend 10 full mana summoning things to buff two turns later. And in the same scenario against Aggro, triple Lightning Storm is also great
@@ShadowmancerLord This card is much slower and much worse for it though, you have to play a deathrattle minion that doesn't draw you your spells, you have to play the spell without getting an additional body for it, and then you have to wait two turns to get your third use out of it (or more if you wait to use the location after you generate some tokens)
ikr, if you cheat it out with Exarch Maladaar on turn 6 then turn 7 you play Kil'Jaeden seems like nice since you can't fatigue and you opponent will eventually and you get endless demons to boot.
A lot of these cards look fun. Just too bad the game is so expensive. It would be one thing if we got the entire set for 80 dollars...ah well :) Thanks Zed!
Uluu in F tier? Doesn't that seem too harsh? I feel like classes like Druid, Warrior and Paladin could definitely get away with having a card like that in their deck.
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Not to point out semantics, but if you have 10 corpses Reska is playable since it will cost at most 10 at that point Most of these might not be the best but I much prefer it that way. Rotation should hopefully let a lot of them shine more then they probably will now
@@MsMassacre-j9ynormally it’s to take out a slower deck’s wincons or combo pieces. But in either case you aren’t hitting key cards with this top 8 cost text.
Im sorry but the priest legendaries are terrible, you way overrated them. Especially Kure. They are tempo cards in a class thay just lost its only tempo deck
This is the first set in a while where I’ve considered getting a bundle… I just love all the artwork and theme so much.
Just wait 2 days,someone will find an abusive deck, everyone will get it from the internet, and this feeling will pass ;p
Even if all of these are bad. The art is so good
The art and concept is SOOOOO GOOD i love it
I personally didn’t like the art that much tbh. Idk
Finally is better than last ones
I love pre-release tier lists.
There is almost always a S rank card that turns out to be trash, and a F rank that ends up God tier that breaks the game.
Popcorn at the ready....
wheel of death flashbacks
I doubt any of the F-rated cards will break the game, though Saarun (at C-tier) has a shot.
Some of these S-rated cards will end up being stinkers though ;)
Zeddy can you continue to bang the drum on how this set NEEDS to game board?
It’s outrageous that they’re not making one
Outrageous is a pretty strong word. I honestly do not care one way or the other, boards are the least interesting cosmetic
@@ShadowmancerLordi mean this as respectfully as possible, but that is an awful take when they are taking away free content like that.
@@Shooshawali Lmao. It's literally not content. It does absolutely nothing. I barely even notice what board I'm on.
If it was something actually impactful then sure, but boards are nothing. If the game had nothing but the base board, I would not care in the slightest.
The art of hearthstone cards is always been nice and beautiful ! That is what i like.
I'll be running KJ in most decks just as an option or way to delete plagues/TNT.
In E.T.C
The way I read the Xort'toh card is that you get 4 total stars (2 on each side), meaning two rounds of explosions for 10 damage total.
The way I read Uluu is that *Uluu* will gain the Choose One choices, which I imagine you then select from when you finally play the card.
I can see Lumia being incredibly oppressive, particularly as a 6-mana card. The only potentially saving grace is that the immunity applies to both heroes.
the more useless the letter, the more beautiful its art
The artwork on this set is amazing, whichever artist did a great job.
Beautiful art this set, spaceships are so cool. Great vid zeddi
finally one tier list who puts ceaseless expanse to S tier where it belongs
Can you explain more about how Kil'jaeden's portal works? Does it summon one demon whenever you would draw a card? How big do the demons start out? Are they 3/2 imps like with Sargeras' portal? Are they random demons?
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I’ve had great use from 8 hands in the prerelease, gets rid of the bad draws late game and puts your opponent on a clock if they don’t play kiljayden, and when my deck ran low I’d just play kil myself
Zeddy, do you know something about which old cards will get the "Draenei"-Tag???
I've been reading the Uluu card as it just adds two bonus effects every turn. So if you kept it in your opening hand it would have them all by t5. Does it just cycle through random pairs instead? That's certainly worse.
Yeah, it simply cycles through a random pair every turn. It doesn't even have any at all the turn you draw it either.
Super excited for this expansion!
I’m so excited for the fire elemental mage decks 🙈
I like the theme of this expansion. I think I the last time I was excited about a Hearthstone expansion was Titans.
Gorm should be changed so that it repeats all deathrattles it triggered when it wakes up or it gains them as a deathrattle as well. Let you build a huge, impactful beast
Is a 4 mana 4/4 deal 4 damage that bad? I think it could be a lot worse, its no Harbringer Celestia!
K'ure is overrated here.
Scamming boards early is not a thing for that card. Since this outside of Wild, Priest doesn't have lots of 0 cost spells.
Unless you highroll into having K'ure next to a couple of Orbital Halo's you're not getting boards particularly early.
Like your "Good value" turn of having 2 Holy spells and 1 other spell is at minimum a turn 6 play (IF you're running cards like Flash Heal and Holy Smite as 1 cost Holy spells). Turn 6 summoning 3 x 3 drops as a highroll on a Legendary... Compared to y'know... Razzle Dazzler summoning 3-4x 5 drops as an Epic you can run multiple copies of...
Card is F tier. You're literally better off using Cheese than K'ure.
Completely agree. Gorgonzormu is definitely better than this in almost every situation.
Another card to draw a comparison to is Heartthrob, which can consistently scam out boards with random 3-cost minions (there's a lot of 'free' heal 3 effects) using a similar mechanic, with the potential to summon some ~7 cost minions as well. That that minion doesn't really see competitive play is telling about K'ure's power level.
No joke, haven't really played seriously paladin since librams, so fingers crossed they're playable.
I have 12 wins in row on legend with handbuff aura (give +2+1) rush Paladin ,like 1 loss in 20 games 😉
S tier for the artwork for all legendaries.
You are doing great job Zeddy
Star cards can be combined with 113 shuffle hand to collide multiple times
I think Shaffar can work in other classes too. Good list overall.
I think Maladaar will be surprisingly bad considering in rainbow DK you use most of your corpses in Corpsicles, to a point that card should/could be cut. But at the same time the most damage machine you have with the deck is through them... so idk, im skeptical.
Kil’jaden turned out to be the best of them all aside from the ceaseless expanse
Wait the K'ara steals the HP for itself or for your hero with the spellburst?
itself
Talgath giving you backstab so that he could Krill himself due to how bad he is
I think the 8 hands from beyond is really good. Just load the deck up with a bunch of high value high mana cards that don't rely on other cards for synergy, which death knight does really well btw. Then you drop the card and your opponent either loses their synergy/combo cards or has to enter in to lategame with WAY less value than you do and you have a massive advantage. I think this card is good for the same reason Boomboss is good, its designed to win lategames for you.
except that any greed pile you go against will probably have kj if that dk card ever is good enough
@@TaterconIf you’re playing 8 hands, I feel like you’re also going to be on Kil’Jaiden
Boom boss is good because it almost has an instant effect and punishes opponent draw. 8 hands is too slow and key cards are usually expensive so it won’t even hit critical pieces.
@@burgerandy2729 Boom boss is only good because it hits hand and board as well, especially hand where your opponent usually keeps their most valuable cards/combo pieces.
I'm seeing them as "new drops of the Wishing Well pool"
Rogue spaceship looked cool, but during the early access, Rogue seems to be very weak. The swings are HUGE from other classes. There will be a lot of balance changes happening early in this expansion.
Arts are amazing this time in every card imo
I will say the same thing to you that I did to Rarran: Nobundo is going to be a problem specifically because of Wish Upon a Star. As long as you don't get turbo aggroed down, you just win.
I don't think it will be that consistent, but it will be annoying enough that it'll be up there. And I'm sure there's ways to cheat it out I'm not seeing
Meh you don't really want to be running it for that though, you can already run hagatha into shudderblock the slime for +6/+9 which will win you games if you hit it but its not consistent enough to build a deck around, more like a nice potential payoff for reno shaman atm.
@@RedEyeStorm7 Hagatha + Shudder + Slime is an extra 6 mana worth of do nothing though and takes 3 turns to pull off.
@@ShadowmancerLord I mean its not really do nothing especially when you combo it with other cards like frog staff or 1 mana deal 2 summon two taunts to buff, your 5 mana slot is open to play another slime or doctor holidae so you have plenty of options, not to mention the large amount of healing and you should be completely fine to do it most of the time if its a play that will win you the matchup, if you are going against aggro then you don't really need the extra stats as value so you just don't shudderblock it usually.
@@RedEyeStorm7 but... you can do those same things with this card. And in fact you can spend 10 full mana summoning things to buff two turns later.
And in the same scenario against Aggro, triple Lightning Storm is also great
@@ShadowmancerLord This card is much slower and much worse for it though, you have to play a deathrattle minion that doesn't draw you your spells, you have to play the spell without getting an additional body for it, and then you have to wait two turns to get your third use out of it (or more if you wait to use the location after you generate some tokens)
I think 8 hands from beyond can be apart of a blood control deck where you also play kiljaedin for value
ikr, if you cheat it out with Exarch Maladaar on turn 6 then turn 7 you play Kil'Jaeden seems like nice since you can't fatigue and you opponent will eventually and you get endless demons to boot.
The set looks good but the art on this one is GOD tier ❤ space for the win
I wouldn’t be surprised if Holy Wrath gets nerfed somehow in the future because of the big boy
revolution meta, thank Zeddy, your video are a pleasure.....
I just got Velen from the free packs you get from ranked rewards each month, lucky me
i hope libram paladin and DK is good, think they will be my 2 main classes
Idk about the cards, but the artwork is cool
A lot of these cards look fun. Just too bad the game is so expensive. It would be one thing if we got the entire set for 80 dollars...ah well :) Thanks Zed!
I love the 100 mana one!
Uluu in F tier? Doesn't that seem too harsh? I feel like classes like Druid, Warrior and Paladin could definitely get away with having a card like that in their deck.
Why is Lumya a 6 mana???
It's a 6 mana do nothing/eat a single target removal, unless you give it rush using some other card. I think it'll end up being very underwhelming.
Gotta love how priest’s legendarys are both incredibly conditional and under supported :^)
Yeah... But it doesn't matter, they'll just steal all their opponents better Legendaries.
Until Creation Protocol gets nerfed, blizzard could give priests useless yetis for legends and I wouldn’t bat an eye.
I'm gona say it cage head otk will be a thing with the corpse card
Awesome content. Keep it up
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Step aside Shirvallah, Ceasless expanse is a much bigger boi.
They should make Talgath a for the rest of the game effect
Ban running 8 hands every time. I know it’s bad, but by god I’m finding a way to
Well, în few weeks after expansion release I think twis top will be totally changed
Just subbed. hoping for the mega bundle.
i hope there will be a good druid dragon deck i love control decks
Why is the pixels so bad? You want people to scroll and find every single point you put a card in??
Not to point out semantics, but if you have 10 corpses Reska is playable since it will cost at most 10 at that point
Most of these might not be the best but I much prefer it that way. Rotation should hopefully let a lot of them shine more then they probably will now
Excited but I have 25 dust so these cards will be irrelevant for the next three expansions cause...1600 dust is a lot.
Quasar should be a legendary
Kiljaeden only being B tier? This is insane, this card is going to get nerf hard
Enchanter saw play, talgath is probably better than you think.
Tal'Gath on A tier in the thumbnail has got to count aa clickvait lmao
This is fire
Nice tier list
Akama feels like a weaker Battleground Battlemaster unless you are already massively ahead, by then which it doesnt matter
Not really
All of these cards have unusual mechanics, etc.
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Best theme in a long time but the legendaries are disappoiting. Also exarch is prob the "fairest" form of mana cheat ive seen so far.
U saying Talgath is bad, but it wins u 2 games on theory crafting CAP
At least is an S tier thematic
I Just don't really agree with the mage legendary be S tier but just that
Personally I think 8 hands is an S tier 5 star meta defining BAROKEN card.
8 Hands as F???? That's gonna age poorly. You can build around that much better than your opponent.
That card is definitely F tier. Why would you care about deck thinning as a huge part of your game plan?
@@MsMassacre-j9ynormally it’s to take out a slower deck’s wincons or combo pieces. But in either case you aren’t hitting key cards with this top 8 cost text.
@@khaledsallam2785 yeah if Kill’jaeden sees play, the 8 hands starfish definitely won’t
Still butthurt that there's no board for this expansion.
Lumia will be great to annoy the bullshit Demon seed decks in Wild.
Warlock isn't exactly short on cheap destroy spells.
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Im sorry but the priest legendaries are terrible, you way overrated them. Especially Kure. They are tempo cards in a class thay just lost its only tempo deck
The overheal deck that's being played wasn't tempo
The mage and paladin legendary should not be s tier
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