Death Penalty: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Can the death penalty be executed humanely?
Should we even be implementing it at all?
Why are we talking about this on a comedy show?
John Oliver tackles the tough questions.
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i like it even though im conservative and i dont agree with many things he says
general viewer GOOD TAKE. Just because you don’t agree with everything someone says. Doesn’t mean you should attack their character or hate them
Honestly almost everybody dose
general viewer I definitely agree with you. The only thing I don’t enjoy is when he pulls a joke out and makes things uncomfortable
general viewer wish more conservative would have the same open and intelligent approach to the truth and getting to the bottom of a problem ...instead of the Trumpers approach : mimicking hollow headlines and falsehoods.. I know that Trump is neither conservative or Republican - he is fascist and when you people take back the party the public debate can sober up 🙏🏽
John in the beginning: I’m sorry about this uncomfortable topic, have a cute video to feel better
John now: WAKE UP SHEEP
He did give us a cute video of a desert rain frog's cute, sweaky warcry before he talked about lethal injection...
It's wake up SHEEPLE
He still gives us cute videos, like hamsters washing their hands. xD
Isabel Bosoms sheep is the best term for the people who believe that the stuff John is saying is wrong
@@jefffranklin4894 Or those being willfully ignorant altogether.
Ah yes, this was the episode when we all knew this show was going to be something special. 16 Emmy Awards later, here we are. Congrats to the team on all their success!
Well said 👊❤️🇨🇦
"man dies after botched execution"
Mission failed successfully
That doesn't even make sense 😅🤣😂
Well it was a torturous death, almost akin to the electric chair or boiling people, it’s a terrifying death sentence. How awful, fortunately he was still killed
Am I the only one who was like "well, he killed people, so what"
@@purplezombie4940 Did you even watch the video? Did you miss the point where it happens to innocents too? Or where it is still morally wrong to do it even to guilty people?
@@purplezombie4940 I guess there's one way to consider it, is to ask yourself this: "Did his botched execution turn out to be significantly more gruesome than the means by which he killed people? Perhaps x times more gruesome than the number of people he killed?"
Because if that's the case, you'd have a potentially very hard argument to say that the government was not worse than he was in killing people - if he was a "cleaner killer", you could see an argument for making him, instead of killing him, the executioner, because he appears to do it more consistently and cleaner than the person who killed him.
Which isn't to say that the government should've given him the job to kill people - the argument from there is perhaps we shouldn't be killing people for killing others.
"A man died after a botched execution." That line makes it seem like it went exactly as planned.
That's the joke.
Captain Obvious over here
Botched doesnt mean failed it means done, but done messily.
Yes that's the joke
yes exactly....the end goal was death. That was achieved. Why so much hue and cry!
He missed probably the biggest argument against the death penalty: it is severely biased towards those who don't have the legal capability to bring their sentence down a notch. A rich guy can lawyer himself out of a death sentence while a poor person (especially of minority) cannot.
ajr1218 it's capital punishment because no capital=punishment
ajr1218
I believe poor but not minority. Minorities can be rich.
When a normal person does it they're a criminal, when the government does it, it's the law. When another country does it it's terrorism. When we do it we're heroes/freedom fighters. As Carlin used to say: "If crime fighters fight crime and firefighters fight fire then what do freedom fighters fight? They never tell us that part!" When poor people do shit they've got a few minutes with a public defender and are screwed. When rich people do shit they're given a slap on the wrist and shorter/lighter sentences or bail..
Also keep in mind that there's only three developed countries in the entire world that still has the death penalty, those three being the USA, Belarus and Japan. Every other country that still has the death penalty is a third world country. Seriously.
Octo PUSS the youngest person to be put death was a 12 year old black boy. The state sent him to the electric chair. The death penalty has been used against minorities since before it became legal.
John has changed a lot of 4 years, but this show has remained one of the most important of the past decade. It teaches important less known subjects to people who otherwise wouldn’t know the unvarnished truth.
He basically adds to the show "This is Bullshit" by Penn & Teller but with a Jon Stewart twist.
Even with that in mind, the show has become all its own thing--I love it. It's one of the reasons I actually like HBO, they really don't mind trying new shows and formats out. Sometimes it doesn't work, but they strike gold a lot because of it.
The fact that they made so much of this info available for free on UA-cam blows my mind, but I'm grateful.
@INERT They have a political bias which they are open about. But trying to unite the two sides is a fool's errand. The right simply will not unite with anybody and does not want to. Oh, and they live on the west coast, not the east, so how can they have east coast bias?
@@zach3142 it's really not as balanced as you'd think. I used to think it is, I really did, but i found over time that it's really not. Take the piece on Gerrymandering for example, or the one on presidential candidates. It's 75% bashing on republicans, 10% acknowledging that democrats also did a lot of bad things and 15% wrapping things up with a monkey playing a tambourine or something...
And mind you, I'm more of a liberal than a conservative, but the bias becomes obvious once you start expanding your range of news sources.
I lean more right than left and this show at times leans more left. It is entertaining as hell. He does do well at not being biased on certain topics.
@@Daymjo Being no American I do have come to the opinion that the show is not taking sides on purpose but rather tries to state their opinion whatever political side that might be.
Remember when the worst thing you could say about the President of USA was that he made a weird sound in a speech?
I miss those days.....
Ion Camin hey come on, stop being ridiculous. Every president has something you can criticize them on.
yeah but the current one is like a gold mine of incompetence
Ion Camin yeah, compared to the poop dumpster fire of trump, obama and pretty much everyone else seems like a saint. but every one of them has debate-worthy moments
its one thing to screw a secretary in a hush way its a different thing when you fuck porn stars and call them Horseface afterwards
The phrase "thank god Joe's here" has a weirdly different feel nowadays
Yet is still as necessary
@Conor Malone We only needed to wait 4 years.
@Conor Malone to quote Obama: EEEERRRRRRR.....
@@originaler31er67 wdym???
@@decentlysmartforanidiot8284 joe isn’t really a good president. Better than trump but that’s not that hard.
Every time John does a Southern accent I send all the praise to Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption. Praise be, John.
Correction:Megareverend John Oliver.
+Drew Cantwell How could I forget? My apologies
+Drew Cantwell Megareverend AND CEO, John Oliver.
Praise be
Praise Be, Praise Be
John Oliver is a genius, he's both informative and hilarious.
+Lapin Durand He also looks a bit like a hamster.
+MrValVet I always thought that he looks like an owl
Lapin Durand
I agree
You know he doesn't write all of this, right?
Hoodo SM I always thought he looked like Eric Idle
About 4 percent of all people given the death sentence are innocent. If your toilet exploded 1 out of every 25 times you flushed it, the toilet is broken.
It's 4.1%, based on the 1.6% of death row convicts who get exonerated before their execution, so it's more like exploding 1 in 40 times. There's three pieces to bear in mind. First, they were exonerated because evidence came out that raises reasonable doubt, not because they were innocent, e.g., for 4.1% of inmates it turned out there's only a 75% chance the courts got the right guy, though in fairness "beyond reasonable doubt" still means that a tiny chunk of the remaining 95.9% of inmates didn't commit the crime either. Second, that the convict was exonerated doesn't mean the convict was innocent either, a lot of the exonerated cases are of the form of three criminals being involved in a murder and two conspiring against the third to save their own skins. Third, if it wasn't for the death sentence, few if any people would care enough to look into their cases and a lot fewer would ever get exonerated.
@@ashleylovestennis6476 If a private persons kills somebody whos innocent, that's considered murder. If the state kills dozens of innocent people, that's called a grear strike rate. Even a single innocent person being executed is reason enough to shut the system down. The death penatly isn't like a fine or prison sentence, it's literally legalized murder. And the only circumstance under which killing is justified, is imidiate self defence, which the death penatly isn't. It's killing out of revenge, also called murder. The death penatly is morally seen, total bs that belongs abolished.
@@projectpitchfork860 Capital punishment was introduced under a democratic system and in many places the majority of citizens are in favour of it so it is valid.
The law says if someone kills my child I have no right to kill that person but the legal system has a safe guard which allows the court to sentence the killer of my child to death.
The death penalty is there to protect law abiding citizens from being murdered by a murderer.
We cannot stop anyone from murdering for the first time but we can ensure they cannot do it again.
You have got the wrong end of the stick. It is a safe guard to innocent and law abiding citizens, not an instrument of revenge.
Many murderers have been released from prison only to murder again. Others have escaped from prisons to murder again.
@@ashleylovestennis6476 96% is not enough, not even close to enough, for the death penalty. And the real figure is very hard to obtain, but if you factor in those cases, where the death penalty is unwarrented and doesn't fit the crime, the percentage gets even worse.
@@TomGalonska thousands of innocent people die in war, but we don't ban the army, navy and airforce
thousand of innocent people die in car accidents, but we don't ban cars many people die in plane crashes, but we dont ban air travel so if some innocent ppl die via the death penalty we don't ban it. you forget about all the people who will not die because we executed their killer accountancy is not your strong suit is it?
One question I always ask that makes me against the death penalty:
What happens when you execute someone, then later find them innocent?
+LyeLye They were implying that you are naive, not at fault
You stated the way things should happen, which isn't wrong. He stated the reality of the matter, hence why he basically called you idealistic.
In other words, saying we should only execute people who we know 100% are guilty is naive because knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that a person is truly guilty is nigh impossible.
+LyeLye In some cases there will be seemingly decisive evidence, but even then it can be misinterpreted and some wrongful executions have been carried out because of it.
+Nicholas Garcia My thoughts exactly.
Why is there a picture of Chinese president Xi Jinping in the thumbnail??
i was just thinking the same 😂
You mean the very last image seen by journalists who wrote articles criticizing his rulings?
10 month late reply but it's because he showed a puppy in a pooh costume holding a needle and that china was included in the handful of countries that are responsible for 82% of the worlds executions. And that he doesn't like being compared to pooh thus everyone loves to do it anyway :)
HBOs business model finally confirmed.
I lolled hard
Call me crazy but that governor sounded like a total psychopath for not even budging a bit when the other guy brought up about the possibilities that some of the executed inmates could've been wrongly accused.
Because he is a psychopath, they're limbic systems don't work, so they can't feel any compassion, respect or love for any fellow living creature. You can look it up, public service positions are statistically (in comparison with other jobs) infested with psychopaths, because their calculating coolness makes them master manipulators. Funny thing thoug, he's precisely the kind of ruthless,"irredeemable", evil ass-hole, the death penalty is suposed get rid of.
However tbh the governor can't say yes either because it would make him seem like a bit of a monster too so really he was kind of stuck. I don't really know why I am defending him because I'm against the death penalty but there you go haha
That's because he is the Texas governor. Texas has some of the coldest people in the nation. His response to that question was not surprising at all. Executing inmates is their hobby, even if they are innocent.
@@harrybishcrew In who's view is someone a monster for being concerned about the proven fact that there are, indeed, innocent people being executed via the death penalty? Even the staunchest supporters of the death penalty absolutely agree that only those who are guilty should receive it. Him being concerned of ambiguity in these sentences would not make him a "monster" in anyone's mind, imo. Even hardliners in Texas would want him to take the validity of those charges seriously.
I love how John has not quite figured out his delivery style yet here. There are moments where he pauses to allow the audience to applaud or laugh for an extended period of time, but as he grew into his role, I live for how he just raises his voice and obstinately talks over the noise of the audience. Anyhow, my admiration and respect for this man may never run out.
And now that he's broadcasting from the white void with no audience, his show is even better. I hope he never goes back to having an audience; he has said that the lack of an audience doesn't bother him.
"Eeeeeuuuuuuuhhhh..." - President Barack Obama
Such an inspirational quote :')
I'm going to have that as my graduation quote
I have my quote all planned. I'm gonna say "we are" and a girl in my class with the same surname wil say "not related". Stuff that meaningful crap.
"Duuhhhuuuurrrrrrrrrppp..."
-President Trump
still better than trump
John Oliver has magnificent eyebrows.
agreed
He's British.
too bad about his teeth
On fleek
baek Blackbeen check out Grant Gustin's eyebrows
The weird thing was when the Texas governor was given applause for killing someone even if they were innocent
First, it hasn't been established that anyone was executed even though they were innocent. The question was do you have trouble sleeping considering that one (or more) of these prisoners MIGHT have been innocent. Secondly, the question hadn't been asked yet when the applause occurred. The audience was applauding because a large number of presumably horrible people guilty of murder, rape and torture had been executed.
people will even applaud when the tv producer holds a sign that says 'applause', that's how dumb people are.
Well to be fair, they clapped before the mediator asked the innocent part. They clapped after the number of executed part.
To me that's just as barbaric....
Michiel van der Blonk exactly what I was about to say. Clapping and celebrating at having the highest execution rates? Smh
We wish the worst of our worst criminals, and the death penalty is the worst thing we can imagine. We ALL feel like... some people deserve it. But that's an emotional response. If you take a step back and look at it practically and logically, John is right. The system is just too flawed to allow it to literally kill someone.
Those who support the death penalty are racist
Death Penalty is no different from the Holocaust
@@christiandauz3742 if you agree with the death penalty your rascist? Your fucking stupid . Please explain.
@@frankenwald42 rascist!! I'm using my chance victim card to get out of jail... bitch you know I'm about to buy that last railroad!
@@boujiatexas1870 calling him stupid you can't even spell "Racist" right.
I'd say life in prison would be worse if it actually meant it was for life. No freedom, no privacy, the threat of assault. Honestly sounds worse
Unfortunetly gay marriage isn't legal in Finland.
We do have good pastries tho. Just not equality.
Finland has the best education system in the world, but Norway beats Finland in terms of every other aspect of quality of life.
lawl :D
gay marrige in Finland has been approved and is going to be legal in 2017.
Isn't it going to be legal though rather soon?
well now it is
I love that John Oliver rewards us with adorable animal videos after a tough topic
Natalie Shields well it is not a tough topic... because the answer is to say no to capital punishment. Job doen
You know what's weird? I think this is the best take, comedic or otherwise, anyone has ever done on the Death Penalty. At least that's my opinion. You can have your own, that's cool. This is just mine. Feel free to criticize it if you want.
I agree with you. This is right up there with the death penalty episode of Penn and Teller for me. :)
Totally agree! This, the Daily Show and Colbert Report, they are the best political and social commentators.
Nick Anderson If you're really interested in political and social commentatory I would go beyond those who primary goal is entertainment, nonetheless amazing shows if they're exactly what you're looking for :)
That joke about Biden is aging wonderfully.
unlike biden
Sorley De Cesare DAMN
i know right
oh absolutely
@@SorchaSublime oof
short and simple: i do not agree with, do not support and truly, genuinely hate the death penalty. never will agree with it nor support and will always hate it.
Catalina Lindegaard Simple statement is simple
Gav Meiri She did say it was simple yes.
Kayla Klimas Hell yeah!
Chris Todd I agree.
Chris Todd Accept it really is not a punishment to not kill say a child murderer. The murderer gets three meals a day gets to enjoy what few comforts is given him for 30+ years on average. Imagine telling a parent "oh ya its justice that your killer gets to enjoy his remainder of his life all so we can feel morally superior by not killing him."
If our justice system was perfect and we only convicted the guilty, I'd be all for the death penalty. There are plenty of evil people out there, murderers, rapists, who frankly don't deserve to continue drawing breath. But since our system is far from perfect, I don't believe in the death penalty. Even 1 innocent person mistakenly executed by the state is too many, and we've already had much more than that.
I believe Ben Franklin said that he would gladly let 10 guilty men go free rather than sentience falsely one innocent man
also, life imprisonment is a harsher penalty than death IMO. Being locked up your whole life to think of what you've done is a fate worse than death. Dying is an easy way out.
Give them menial labor to pay their own imprisonment costs.
Indeed these are reasonable and pragmatic reasons for opposing the death penalty. I am against it for precisely those reasons myself. Some people are just stuck in this dark age notion of getting violent revenge on people who wrong them.
Well, the problem is that the same argument can also be used against a life prison sentence. If you think about it, if someone is wrongly convicted at age 35 and it isn't discovered until 50 years later by that point you've taken so much of his life that you may as well have killed him. The obvious solution there is to not allow life sentences, and indeed there are some countries that do that, but the question then becomes what do we do with these violent offenders who will almost certainly kill again if set free? Heck, you remember that nut-job who shot up a youth camp in Norway a while back? Well in Norway the maximum prison sentence is 20 years, which means it's possible he could one day walk free. Personally I feel as though the number of innocent people who would die due to false convictions is much lower than the number that would die if we let violent criminals back into society.
epictehninja Eh, I'm not sure I agree. If I was found guilty at 35 and released at 50, I'd also get a huge sum from the state for falsely imprisoning me (and I think that is most just). A life sentence can be reversed or at least there's much more time to find out, and also if it is reversed you can try to make up for it. I'm not saying it does make up for it necessarily, but a death sentence is too severe imo.
I don't trust the state to handle that. Even life sentences make me uncomfortable.
At least most people have a chance at defending themselves against an assailant who comes after them. There is no defense against the state. Sorry, I just don't trust any justice system sufficiently for it. I'd rather 10 guilty go free than 1 innocent be falsely imprisoned. Probably even 100.
Thoughtful and well written. Love the show, please dont change a thing.
I first saw this show when my teacher showed the episode on net neutrality back in college. I've been watching ever since.
Well, you changed my mind. Thank you for educating me
God, I'd love to see the end of the death penalty in this country. It's murder for murder. It's not our right.
For child rapists it most certainly is right!!!
Rusty Shackleford nope, cuz among those child rapists, there are still people wrongfully being executed.
***** That's not really the case. Sure there are some scum out there. Some real dicks who need to be shot, hung or killed in a vary of different awful ways. But to be honest, I'd rather take the chance of saving an innocent than killing one. I'm for the death sentence in theory but once it's put into practice there are all kinds of problems. The law is to protect, not to kill. The amount of wrongful convictions is extremely high and it's just not worth it. If new evidence came to light you can release someone if proven innocent. You can't exactly release a corpse from jail...
You're totally right. The world is so much better for having mass shooters still sucking resources in prison cells. That James Holmes guy, I'm sure glad we didn't execute him. He might be innocent! Everyone in the theater could have been biased or coached by the responding officers as part of a government plot!
Cactus Sauce why argue with a person so stupid and so standardized that their argument consists of repeating some other moron's line that life in prison is a slap on the wrist?
This next presidential election is going to be hard to choose and not because the choices are great. I am sick of the parties and I would rather have John Oliver as president. He has shown more common sense and dignity than most.
MADEbySOUL And that's why, even if John is eligible, he would not get elected. I'm sure you've seen how elections in this country work: candidates go on a campaigning spree making empty promise after empty promise because that's what people want to hear. Then the people believe them every damn time, vote them into office, and...nothing. Then they get frustrated and turn against them, declaring them the worst president ever (but still elect them to a second term), and the cycle begins anew.
Common sense and dignity are not what the people want to hear. They want their outrage reinforced. They want their emotions, regardless of how unreasonable, answered to.
+MADEbySOUL Sadly it seems that the biggest idiots imaginable get elected in America. First Bush Jr. and now Trump has way too much support as well.
+MADEbySOUL go check out Bernie Sanders, he seems ok
+Eric Becker You msut be out of your mind. If you ever opened any book on economics, you'll know what mess he can offer.
Cícero M. What you mean socialism?
It’s so funny to see him be hesitant to cover heavy topics
You're beautiful. Have a great day!
Ikr! He's writing text books now. Lol
life in prison is a death penalty, just a very very slow one
+Hevian S Couldn't agree more with you. Great comment :-)
+uetzel Life outside of prison is a slow death penalty as well
Da Red Russian Murderers are not eligible for parole
+Hevian S We are aRepublic. Go back to school. Benjamin Franklin
with that logic everyone is sentenced to death by being born... life in prison robes you of having freedom during your life, not taking your life lol
I used to be all for the death penalty with certain crimes. However, it was brought to my attention that I probably shouldn't want the government to have that power. Also, it eliminates the possibility for exoneration, death penalty cases are far more expensive than life in prison, and they don't deter crime. Personally I have no problem with a murderer or rapist being executed. However, taking all things into consideration, I don't believe we should have the death penalty.
People seem to lack understanding the concept of solitary and maximum security prisons.
People always seem to argue for rapists to be executed, however there's one fundamental problem with this; it encourages escalation of crime. If someone were to rape someone else, the victim is themselves a witness, so a rapist then has a motive for silencing them and no disincentive like a harsher punishment.
+Sushiman118 themself*
While there are some people that definitely deserve to die, perhaps it would be better if we don't
FirestarsFury I have no problem with those forms of punishment.
Great info!!! Such an informative clip!!!!!!!!!! This show rocks!
Who are u
@@otherlego no who are you?
@@otherlego and what do you want?
Jehovah government will come
When I showed my sister this, she just said ‘Shoot ‘em up’. She makes it sound like a flipping fireworks show.
LWwJO is the best american late night show period. Nearly every video I've seen so far is absolute gold.
chill bip
Jesse Pinkman have got any meth?
308 million per execution?? What the heck does this lottery payout amount of funding go towards? building a rocket and then shooting the convicted person into space?
Retrials, hearings and the extremely high security in death row - to keep the prisoners from killing themselves. But mainly the trails.
Lawyers, mostly.
Just pay a dude an hourly wage to chop heads with an axe.
***** Or just not kill them?
***** It's probably not as easy as it sounds, otherwise the guillotine would never have been invented. It wouldn't reduce the cost that much either. You'd have to pay him a lot per execution, otherwise onbody would do it. And there are only few executions.
And the trails and security wouldn't become any cheaper, too.
"You, sir, are a regular Atticus Finch" I love Jon Oliver.
"Designed by Marquis de Sade and named by Willy Wonka"
That has to be the ultimate fetish duo
Sounds like a rockin' good time!
"It doesn't feel right."
"You may experience unusual sensations while your matrix realigns."
"I was referring to the arrangement the captain made with the Nygeans. No matter how terrible the crimes these men committed, it seems wrong to hand them over to be executed. This is a Federation starship, not the Barge of the Dead."
"Would you prefer the captain released them?"
"Of course not. They are dangerous men."
"Execution ensures they won't pose a threat to anyone again."
"So would life sentences, the operative word being "life".
*The Doctor and Seven of Nine, Star Trek: Voyager - "Repentance"*
"Killing is wrong. No matter who's doing it."
*The Doctor, Star Trek: Voyager - "Repentance"*
Towards the argument that we need to make prison miserable and have the death penalty to deter people from crime, I say this: We've had prison for as long as we've had societies. In all that time has prison worked as a deterrent? To say that we need horrible prison conditions in order to deter crime is to suggest that crime is a recent problem that has only come about because of modern prison conditions and the lack of capital punishment. This is, of course, completely untrue. Prison used to be absolutely horrible compared to modern standards and did that stop people from committing crimes? Of course not. Prison and the death penalty has not, is not, and never will be a deterrent from crime.
I agree with you completely. I have often thought what needs to be done is too make prisons more of an institution of criminal rehabilitation centers. Also, we need to think of crime as a mental health problem, economic issue, and a place of learning of why they lost their own values. That of course is said with thought that anyone sent to prison has actually committed a crime. As for the fact that a small percent of people are sent to prison under pseudo-science notions which is something else that should be fixed.
We might've had jails for as long as we've had society, but prison as a deterrent is very much a relatively recent development, coming out of the decades following the American Revolution and establishment of the United States. Previously jails were used mainly as holding cells for those awaiting trial, punishment or ransom, with floggings, executions or banishments the means of meting out 'justice' of choice.
I would cut off my dick if there are more people stealing after people are tortured and then put to death if caught stealing.
Punishment is and always will be a deterrent for crime.
My next door neighbor is a convict and one time he ranted on and on about how easy prison life is and how he'd get three square meals a day, could smoke, watch tv, and basically be taken care of. Prisons are a joke here in the US. We should make them all like the Louisiana state prison, which is a work farm prison. No more revolving door, no more weights, tv's, cigarrettes, etc. We should bring back the chain gang. Taking your time isn't enough, we should exploit their labor. Make them pay back their dues to society in blood, sweat, and tears. If you can rape and murder you can swing a pick axe.
Think about it like this: crime can fundamentally be split into two categories; crime due to psychological emotional reasons, such as being psychologically inclined to hurt people, or killing someone in anger, and crime for profit, where monetary gain is the aim.
Deterrent cannot stop a person that is psychologically inclined to want to hurt a person from enjoying that, nor can it stop someone from being angry. Those that commit crime for profit do it with the intention of not being caught, if you are caught you loss the money anyway, a thief/hitman doesn't think "the monetary gain is greater than the pain suffered due to the judicial system" they think "I'm not going to get caught".
Killing people to teach people that killing people is wrong. Good logic.
Except it's been fucking proven that it doesn't deter shit and even costs MORE than a life sentence. Open your eyes.
+gtfoimo Same reason we fine people who steal to show stealing is wrong. And the same reason we imprison people who kidnap and hold hostages to show that kidnapping is wrong. Same reason we put people who threaten others on probation to show that threatening is wrong. I see no flaw in killing killers to show killing is wrong.
There's something to be said for paying evil unto evil?
gtfoimo 7.62 costs 50 cents a round.
+gtfoimo
For as long as I have lived I have had involuntary fantasies about killing every single person I have ever made eye contact with, or spoken to. I managed to not kill anyone because I know in my country, the US, that I will eventually get caught and be executed. So there goes everyone's argument about the death penalty not being a deterrent, you're welcome.
the fact that it cost 300m per execution is reason enough to get rid of the death penalty.
That's the cost in California, yeah. But in any state, it costs over a million dollars more than life in prison. You could probably prevent more murders and deter more crime by giving that money to the cops, or save more lives by putting it into something that saves lives. You could reduce murder by addressing poverty or increasing jobs too.
"In Texas, a death penalty case costs an average of $2.3 million, about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest security level for 40 years."
Even Trump would take that as a reason
They just should make it cheaper than a life sentence
@@tifforo1 giving police more money definitely will not prevent more murders.
@@Pennsyltucky84 Most murders are committed by people who have committed previous offenses, so getting violent offenders incarcerated for lesser offenses, which is more possible with more police, reduces murder.
Come for John Oliver, stayed for tiny hamsters
To the Viktor
8:52 So why the FUCKING fuck is the audience applauding???
Kareragirl You've got a point there.
Kareragirl So...neo-cons?
Fak Yuh Googel yeah wtf thats what i was thinking....
MEC &rox : . =d... -..
khampoo moolsin wut?
actually, what I was thinking was "if he died, was it really a botched execution? sounds like it was pretty successful."
Exactly. I was expecting him to make a joke that if it was really botched, the guy would have survuved.
Mr. Locke if I recall died of heart attack not because of the execution. They couldn't find a working vain.
I was wondering the exact same thing
Many states in the US only permit the death penalty by humane methods that don't cause more pain and suffering than utterly necessary. The lethal injection is such a well-used method because it's one of the most painless methods available. The execution is considered botched because they messed up in a way that caused unnecessary pain and suffering, only for him to eventually die of a heart attack (which, by the way, are incredibly painful), most likely induced by their messing up. That's what they mean by 'botched'. If you ever watch the film 'Law Abiding Citizen', it contains a scene with another good example of a botched execution, where the inmate died but the method was tampered with by the film's antagonist to make sure he was both fully conscious and felt all of the pain.
@@rachelfox8108 It's exactly as Rachel posted. According to the 8th Amendment and a certain Supreme Court decision (I can't remember off the top of my head), executions can only be carried out in "humane," meaning "painless" ways.
In the wise words of former president Barack Obama:
"eaeuuueeeeeh"
"dies after botched execution"
uhm
doesn't sound very botched to me?
+Zeredek The "botching" was them experiencing the pain I think.
+Kenpokid4 Pretty much. If you've seen the movie "Law Abiding Citizen", you'll understand what the person went through.
+Kenpokid4 Gotta make sure you kill them in a way that makes us feel good! 'Murica.
+longliverocknroll5 We have laws against cruel and unusual punishment. It's not about making them feel good, it's about human dignity regardless of whether we feel they deserve it. Establishing a minimum baseline for how we treat our fellow man even if we'd like to resort to our baser instincts. America.
TinyTypingDragon Keep trying to justify state sanctioned murder however it makes you feel good.
'legal allowance of murdering people for no good reason since 1776'
- 'Murica
It's basically giving the victim's family the bloody revenge they want. But in most revenge stories, after they finally get it, they still feel empty inside. They feel no different than they did before.
exactly, retaliation is stupid
It also makes sure a legitimate threat to society can no longer be so.
As someone who has lost friend to murders, who were later found dead, i cant confirm what ya said. It's a very sweet feeling knowing they got what was coming
but you would rather pay 10 times as much to kill them when they could be 4/100 times innocent?
Do you value the live of an innocent or the death of a guilty more?
A guilty will be punished either way but an innocent may die for nothing.Is that what you call justice?
Actually let me add more.
We cannot bring back an innocent wrongly killed but we can punish a guilty with the same punishment but a different sentence.Life imprisonment.
We can save an innocent if they are later proven innocent but the guilty will die either way.Would you rather give the guilty a slow death of attrition or a quick death with little to no pain.If guilt does not burden him then boredom surely will and perhaps insanity may take him,personally I believe it to be a far better punishment.Do you really want give him such a swift death for his crimes?Do you potentially want to make him a martyr for the bigoted or the insane if his crimes were politically charged?Perhaps that could be his goal?Do you want to secede the moral high ground to such ruffians?
We can also try to rehabilitate him to gain back a member of society who will most likely,in retribution save more lives then he took(or at least get back a productive member) or if guilt takes him then he dies through suicide.If he turns a murder once again we can lock him up to die a slow death.
This also may help us reach a higher plain of understand in psychology and psychiatry through more experiments on the human mind which can help us to save many many people.Certainly that is enough to leave him alive to rot away in prison where he dies either way or if innocent has the chance to be proven so and walk free again.
So I ask you again:
Would you rather spare the accused capital punishment for the chance that he may be innocent?Or kill him regardless for you cannot bring back the dead.
Because either way the guilty die.I am sure you don't care whether it's attrition or venom that takes him.
This may be one of the most thoughtful treatments of the issue I've seen on a nationally televised program. Good work, John.
Yeah. This is actually people applauding for murder. 8:58
Let that sink in.
@Simon Eminger No, they were applauding cause of the murder rampage done by that governor.
They’re not as disgusting as the radical left like AOC and Sanders people who were cheering and celebrating when President Trump was diagnosed with COVID-19. They were openly hoping for his death. AOC is a horrible person.
@@nath-wp7xp Ever heard of the term poetic justice or what goes around comes around? That is why plenty of people are satisfied with the screaming and whining of Trump Supporters after they harassed us for 5 years while p;laying victim while being the oppressor. It's called Catharsis and is a documented scientific psychological phenomenon. Also his bungling means Pence would be better at fixing the crisis. The death of one v death of hundreds of thousands, even millions. The choice is obvious: The cult leader bungled the crisis, and will continue to make it worse. Pence at least is a functioning adult who knows the law(Re January 6th which will be the new Pearl Harbor and was an insurrection to overthrow the government egged on by the President), though with Biden in office we no longer need to worry about Orange Cult Leader's bungling. Still Pence could have saved more lives more likely with stronger enforcement of the Mask which have been scientifically proven for decades, even centuries to drastically reduce spread of diseases, and by reestablishing the Obama era Pandemic task force Trump abolished. America once went to war with Seat Belts for very similar reasons to masks. Let us learn from history. After all protecting life doesn't stop at abortion, and bodily autonomy doesn't matter if abortion is bad. Mandatory Vaccinations all, every adult, senior, and child.
@@deiansalazar140 Trump administration funded the vaccine, something to keep in mind, without the funding by the Trump Administration, the Vaccine would have taken alot longer to come out and you talk as Biden is some sort of Messiah, but the reality is equally worse or even worse than than Trump, he is deliberately killing jobs just so he further his political agendas, leaving strong Ally like Israel, allowing men to be part of women sport, he is a disaster and disgrace.
My door is open where is the sink?
who else love the video of the hamster eating the little burrito?
+Bender Rodriguez Depends... Who's great?
I love this man. I thought the era of satirical news was over after my legend Jon Stewart retired but I'm glad to see John Oliver still keeping it lit :)
Death Penalty Supporter: "We need the death penalty because killing an innocent person is so heinous that anyone who does it must DIE!"
Rational Person: "But sometimes we execute innocent people by mistake?"
Death Penalty Supporter: "Worth it."
My internet was being shitty and my computer asked me " do you want to kill pages 'John Oliver: Death penalty'?" and im like damn, but do i want to kill it? Choices...
uhhhhhhh
Oliver is SOOOO right here, as he usually is. this man is genius.
6:19 I laughed SO HARD at that joke.
That Biden joke hits different now that he's the president lol
I watched you play Bloodbourne and it sucked.
@@rebelanni The only video I can think of I've upload from bloodborne is specifically of a time I lost in a funny way. So I'm not sure what your point is. I guess thank you for watching my video?
Probably one of the best episodes of the show.
>title of vid: death penalty >thumbnail: puppy wearing a winnie the pooh costume
something is wrong here, i just can't seem to put my finger on it
John Oliver is brilliant! And his episodes have only gotten better
Far too many Anglophones have no concept of the difference between justice and vengeance.
A great segment on the death penalty.
It takes a special kind of logic to follow the argument for the capital punishment. It doesn't deterr people, it's more expensive than life in prison and *IT IS MORALLY WRONG*
He's not arguing that it's morally wrong, he's arguing that historically the death sentence has brought all forms of extreme practices and mishaps with attempts to maintain it as a standard consequence in law. We obviously don't kill as many innocent people as the Spanish inquisition did (they had a percentage of 100%), but the smaller margin of error hasn't stopped human nature from corrupting a profound subject that has always been a grey issue to begin with.
I think that he is arguing the morality of it as his last sentence (before the hamster) asks if we want to live in a society that gives the families of "horrible crimes" victims the power over the life of someone else. His (and mine) stance is *no* and he argues that we, at least, should *think* about it rather than a more knee jerk reaction.
The issue is difficult but I believe that it is not the extreme practices that make it hard, it is the fundamental question about the value of the human life and the morals of a society.
Just because your stance is no doesn't mean it's the right stance. Your stance just means that closure will be denied to the victims families no matter what the circumstance. I can assure you, there are millions of New Yorkers who prefer Bin Laden below water then above it.
True ... I've been known to be wrong before! (shocking!)
The closure argument is the one that I've seldom seen "in the wild" and I do prefer that term to "justice" because it is that, closure ... or even vengeance but not justice.
At the end of the day it is a "society" decision in that we all have to live by it and some countries have decided that the death penalty is not appropriate while others decided otherwise.
What I will say though is that as my opinion is that the death penalty should not exist I will voice that opinion and work to put my argument forward whenever I can. (luckily, so far I've lived in countries where that's already the case)
***** I've only removed one comment (and it is my playground, so, you know, my rules) and it may have been yours because it wasn't an argument, it was just a statement. I'm happy to debate but for that I need an argument (and some caffeine in my system ... after all I'm only human).
I see your point about "proper implementation". I don't think it has to do with timing though but with the fact that the process should be sound and error free so that only the guilty ones get executed.
I simply disagree with that because, fundamentally, I think that as heinous a crime might have been, the death penalty is only giving the grieving party closure, and it is not giving _justice_ to the society. Therefore, other options (long prison sentences and rehabilitation) can deliver a better outcome for the whole society.
For years now, my dream has been to move to New York. However, the more I watch LWT and other news shows, I want les and less to move to America. As a Scottish person, I don't deal with many of the issues facing this nation and honestly at this point, I don't want to be a part of this.
Update?
Don't move here, save yourself
Don't come here. The insanity is not worth it.
Don't come here. The insanity is not worth it.
Do NOT move here. Please. We are fucking losing it and I do not want anyone else to suffer because of it.
That cute little hamster 😀
I've almost forgotten about the state sanctioned murder 😐
If you watch the whole video it shows how to make the tiny burritos as well . with a tiny stove .
Edgar Allan Poe So you're saying Serial Killers should be allowed to live out the rest of their lives in relative comfort?
If you think inprisonment is "relative comfort" you don't know how the American prison system works.
TrackpadProductions Those men are put in solitary and are given much more than an average prisoner would recieve in ways of entertainment. It’s relative comfort compared to what people would like to do to those killers.
The justice system is not meant to do what people would like to do to criminals. I'm sure there are people who would like to see rapists be tied down and immolated in public, but that's not how it works, nor is it how it should. It's called the _justice_ system, not the _vengeance_ system.
I was just about to click away but the hamster burritos got me to stay.
I would've preferred a detailed list of what actually makes up that $308 million. Is it including court fees, executioner fees, cremation/burial fees, solicitor fees, mortician fees etc? Or is $308 million just the cost of the ingredients of the injection???
20 years of appeals is why the cost is so absurd.
$149 million - trial costs, $71 million - automatic and state appeals, $60 million - federal appeals and $77 million for the actual incarceration. (The actual figures are significantly higher than $308 million)
The problem is many of those costs will still be incurred without a death penalty trial as there will still be the trial, appeals and incarceration.
The amount of appeals a person on death row gets are far more than someone getting life in prison, so only a fraction of that is what it would cost otherwise.
Oh, so if we just gave fewer appeals and then shot them in the head we'd solve the expense problem? Sounds good to me.
Oddly enough Finland is also #1 on the list of countries you don't want to go to if you're Russian. They will take you out with an iron sight Mosin from a mile away.
500 times.
I'm serious that really happened.
+Demitrium and from USA prespective isn't that a good list?
+0Clewi0 maybe but as a historian I remain impartial and objective. It's impressive, but it only good if you're on the winning side.
Demitrium I was just making a joke so it's not what I personally think of
+0Clewi0 oh I'm not claiming it is, I thought you were assuming I did because I'm American.
Demitrium I wasn't even considering what your nationality was, which I had guessed it was from Findland or a close country or russian as you knew that super unknown fact
I think we can all agree.....that hamster was adorable.
9 years ago. has it really been that long? wow.
I think the better argument is: do you want to live in a country where the state has the power to lawfully kill its citizens? And my answer to that question is a resounding no.
2fast 2furious when i get older i think im gonna move out of the U.S
The individual doesn't have to commit the crime,he only has to be convicted.The 4% who are innocent die just the same as the guilty.
My answer is yes. The majority agree with me.
Kaptain Kid The death penalty is generally more expensive for the tax payer.
Kaptain Kid did you even watch this video? John discusses the relative cost... did you miss that part???
John Oliver is going on my admired people list.
"Botched Execution kills". Seems to me that the execution went exactly to plan.
thats the joke...
I think that's referring to executions that caused unnecessary pain or failed on the first attempt
+Zachery Hawkling well the end result worked just as planned
katia alaeva I'm aware, but I would still say there's an important difference
the end is more important than the means
boy how i love Canada with no death penalty
Yes, but how does the hamster feel about gay marriage?
There is always a bloke who wins the internet. I am sad its never me. :/
But Salut anyways...
***** Which would make his username somewhat ironic..
I'm sure the hamster holds no opinion on gay marriage as long as it does not affect their-self or their burrito.
om nom nom nom nom nom.. GIMME MORE! nom nom nom
He makes everything so much easier to understand but with a comedic take on it.
I'm loving this show already, I hope he keeps it like he has the past two episodes.
Worst times to talk about the Death Penalty:
-at the beginning of a series
-during the series finale of Game of Thrones
How do u spend 308M dollars for activating an electric chair? seriously i actually have no fucking idea how they reach those numbers
appeals?
All the legal routes you have to have open to them, various appeals, being placed in a special prison block (and all the extra costs in guards, maintenance and security required). You also have to consider the fact that you will have a large medical team on hand to both prevent the condemned FROM dying before the execution date (also suicide watch often occurs on deathrow) and to monitor the execution to make sure that it is humane. You also have to factor in the cost of the drugs in the lethal injection, with their price increasing, as several of the nations that produce compounds that do go into them have increased prices and done various other legislative approaches to make purchasing such chemicals for execution less appealing (e.g. the drugs cost more.) You will also, occasionally, have to deal with the state paying for burials, as some relatives will refuse to come to claim the body of an executed killer, or relatives may not exist. There is likely several costs I have missed, but this was just a broad answer from what little I could remember of the execution system.
it's 308 thousand, not million, no?
+Lucas Lemos No, it's 300 million.
Well there is a lot of paperwork before you can do that ;)
That was astonishingly great.
"An eye for an eye will only end up making the world blind?" -Mahatma Gandhi
"I'm a monster, I can't stop." -Ted Bundy
That is assuming that everyone is a criminal. Gandhi over simplified it.
*****
You obviously haven't understood the logic and implications of Ghandi's quote. It has nothing to do with guilt or innocence.
+John Smith
You obviously do not understand the meaning of what Gandhi was saying. Gandhi believed in non-violence. Contrary to what you appear to believe, Gandhi did not mean to let all criminals and villains off the hook, never having to face the consequences of their deplorable actions.
*****
Furthermore, it was Russia (the USSR at that time) who stopped Hitler, Russia who won WWII for us. Russia likely could have beaten Hitler without the Western contribution. Indeed, in the critical campaigns that determined the outcome of the war on the eastern front in 1942, the West wasn't that much of a factor. The war in France was over. The war in North Africa was a bit of a sideshow. The air war over Britain had settled down from its peak in 1940. Certainly keeping the French down and deterring the British from any immediate invasion must have kept some number of German troops pinned down in the West, and American aid to the USSR was helpful. I don't know what the consensus of war historians on this question would be. But overall it doesn't seem at all absurd for most Russians to believe that with or without Western help, the Red Army would have held at Moscow and at Stalingrad, and the Germans would have lost the war.
It might be the beer talking, but I truly believe I earned that video at the end. Thank you John Oliver.
The Statue of Liberty's Nose really is 4 feet 6 inches long!
He killed this one.
EL23 TV You're killing me. 😂
*Shoot* worst pun ever
It was well executed
Jokes aside, this shows how Oliver did take jabs on the presidency at the time, on Democrats. Now he does it on Trump, and Republicans are like he's a liberal leftie. Lol.
Got'em
"Death penalty is expensive, potentially killing innocent people, and doesn't deter crime"
Lifers commit murder in prisons.
imagine just shoving them into secluded rooms, locking it up and barricading them, and then letting them starve to death. The most inhumane method of execution, sure, but still cheaper than shocking them to death or administering a poison and plus you're only indirectly killing them to boot.
pretty fucked up alternative to current death penalty methods, right? Not making a point, just something that comes to mind whenever the topic of cost gets mentioned in the death penalty
How can you prove it doesn't deter crime?
lazy Perfectionist so apparently you can read minds?
J.J. It’s impossible to prove a negative. The burden of proof lies on the people saying that it does deter crime.
An eye for an eye. But sometimes you are so caught up in the pain of loosing an eye that you hit the wrong person. And then the world still goes blind.
did you make this up or is it a quote cause its great
My pro-life friends are all for the death penalty... they seem to like war too.
You mean, your pro-uterus-police friends.
That's because your pro-life friends are only pro-birth. If they were really pro-life, they'd fund the shit out of welfare programmes that would ensure that every single baby that gets born will be fed, clothed, educated, and healed, and that the baby's mother has everything she needs to stay healthy and able to provide for her child. Too bad they don't care about the rest of the woman wrapped around the uterus.
@@rachelfox8108 And demand that the Second Amendment be repealed...
@@richardsmart4840 They would. Three year old children die in the US every other day because they got hold of a firearm in their own house. That fact should be a terrifying wake-up call that at the very least there should be a strict reform on gun control that demands that every gun owner be as responsible as they should be to own a death-causing weapon. Japan still allows owning of a firearm, but there are so few incidents of death caused by them because of their rigorous gun control laws. If the Americans who want to continue owning firearms were actually responsible, they would be in support of regulations that ensured as few deaths as possible.
@@rachelfox8108 so specifically only 3 year olds kill themselves by accident?
"The death penalty is like the McRib"
Homicide is illegal and death is the penalty
What justifies the homicide when he dies, in his own iniquity?
its the master of the mantis rap comin at ya
In all of the one week that this show had been on the air, John comes out swinging with a BRIGHT red tie, and a bold matching red shirt with blue plaid undertones. He came onto UA-cam swinging, and I have to respect that. This combo is a fantastic blueprint for his outfits to come, and leaves us all wanting more. I have to give his very first suit a solid 10/10, this is what we want.
Now, the hair leaves much to be desired…. But that’s not what I rate
Seriously, the number of crimes that could be prevented with the money spent on death penalty if invested in the right social programs would most probably stop a lot more crimes than the deterrent factor of death penalty.
BEST. FUCKING. SHOW. I'VE EVER SEEN.
Death is the easy way out. I would much rather die than be in jail for the rest of my life
+Matt Schumacher If that's true, then why does the defense always fight for life in prison? The criminal knows which one is worse.
Probably not though. Humans have one goal in life, survive.
you say that now but if you was 20 minutes away from the chair eating your last meal you would change your mind.
If Shawshank Redemption taught me anything than life sentence is the most horrible thing.
So I'm with Matt Schumacher on that one. Killing yourself is the easy way out. So is killing the killer.
The death penalty as far as I know comes with like 15 years in prison before they kill you, not as quick as u think.
Burritos aren't normally something one considers when balancing the universe......but this does put a smile on my face.
most people are confusing justice with revenge
I'm against the death penalty for many reasons. First, it doesn't get to the root of them problem and fix the causes that compel them to a crime. Second, if the threat of going to jail doesn't deter someone from a crime, then how would the threat of killing them be any more effective. Third, it's possible for people to be killed who have never committed the crime.
But most importantly, it sends the wrong message. It says "It's not okay for you as a citizen to kill someone, but it's okay for the government to kill you."
Than what do you suggest we do than Einstein, send them all to Antarctica the same way the British sent prisoners to Australia or something, or we could try to kill them on a technicality or something like starvation, that way they're technically not killed by the government and die of a lack of food we could also try to make them do slave labor to offset the cost of them being improsoned with as I said free labor. It's easy to criticize the death penalty bet when you offer no alternative you're not helping anybody out. Personally the Antarctica thing and slave labor are probably good options.
+Omar Pinon it's not that hard to come up with a theoretical solution, "Einstein". Look at Norway's prison system, for example.
I think the 3rd objection is the most important one.
That 4% of death row inmates are innocent.
+Annika P. that's why Anders Behring who murdered 77 people and injured +300 was sentenced to 21 years in prison(extendable). Death penalty should not be abolished!
All of these excellent points lead me to conclude that the death penalty is about vengeance. I think the purpose of justice should be twofold; not just to deter immorality through punitive measures, but to make every effort to heal and rehabilitate. I can't begin imagine what the families and friends of murder victims go through and I think it's only human to want someone who's killed someone one loves to be killed in turn. But I doubt very much that killing that person - even if there is 100% proof of the perpetrators guilt - will bring the victims family and friends any peace. One does not fill a void by making another. I'm not saying letting a killer live would make them feel better either, but at least the latter choice doesn't lead to even more purposeless destruction of life.
I love this show already.
gonna watch the whole show from the very beginning! let the marathon begin!
How is it allowed if it's written in the Declaration of Independence that life, along with liberty and the pursuit of happiness, is a god given right of all people??
Because, in the United States, some people are more equal than others.
Clotted Scream Excellent Question!
Read how the Constitution changed after the end of slavery. . . The 13th Amendment abolished slavery and legalized it if a person is found guilty of a crime. Slave = No human rights