Tsukinogi is Terrible By Design, Here's Why [Arknights]
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0:00 Intro
2:11 Sponsored Segment
4:19 Tsukinogi's Talent and Stats
7:06 Skill 1
9:30 Skill 2
10:47 Conclusion
11:56 She has an actual use
12:23 Why is she bad on purpose?
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They lobotomized the deer
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bruh guard skadi dealt like 3k with module and only has 40 sec redeploy which makes her kill even the likes of patriot without mines , The only ops that can achieve these feat so far are surtr and texas alt.
Now I wonder if Frostleaf is bad on purpose.
@@Lulu_Gaming1025 Abyssal Hunter fan on copium spotted
Tsukunogi is bad because she wants to have an easy time retiring as my housewife.
Ah she's playing 4D chess
Hey she’s mine back off.
Meh, Ash IS better waifu
Smooth af, you cheeky Bass Tart.
me frfr 😭😭
The sad thing about Tsukinogi's ability to heal summons is, if I want that I can just grab perfumer and have an actual healer for actual healing that can passively heal summons as well xD
and of couse Skadi alter... and Angelina...
And Sora and Heidi if you're really desperate
and my wife Amjelina which can actually dealt a lot of dmg
or just use skalter who can also heal summons on 2 different places on the map due to the seaborn
Not to mention that the only summoners people use consistantly have regenerating suicide summons or are Ling.
You guys don't see the bigger picture, Tsukinogi WILL be the best operator once you unlock her 3rd module level 10 side B. Hypergriff is playing the long con similarly to passenger.
Bro just predicted slightly different talent upgrades sides within a single module
Now that is enlightened
Supah having a sponsor segment , truly a tsukinogi miracle , you see that why she's accualy good as an operator
"I found exactly one use for Tsukiyomi..."
Oh God please tell me I want any excuse to use the cute deer.
"She can heal summons and enmity guards." (And Mudrock)
So... Worse, non-global, skill-dependent Perfumer...
They really do hate the deers, huh.
I disagree mixing Firewatch being mediocre lmao. She isn't that bad compared to other Deer operators
That's what I'm saying ! Firewatch may be a tiny bit niche but she goes hard in a good number of situations
Only Firewatch is the only pretty decent deer.
0:46 I'll have you know guard skadi is far from useless. She has consistently been able to delete anything ive placed her on top of all the time.
Classic Rmotion9 coping
@@fentanylandfriends ah, another man of culture I see
Using Pixiv instead of those other inferior VPN required sites
Skadi is the best box cutter
To give an example of how bad shelter is
One of the Guardian defender modules gives 15% damage reduction. This is almost as good as the 20% shelter effect from tsukinogi, but it works at max HP, doesn't take an extra deployment slot or a valuable ranged tile, and is already on the exact operators you want damage reduction on anyway.
Oh, and tinfoil hat moment: tsukinogi is bad because hypergryph didn't want to bother designing a 6star abjurur supporter, so they made both the first operator and the archetype as bad as they possibly could to prevent anyone ever asking for one.
Wasn't a 6 star abjurer released in CN?
@@zoramarslink5788 No, there wasn't any *6 abjurer
@@zoramarslink5788 We have yet to get a 6 star abjurer. The latest one was Quercus, also a 5 star. This one has slightly better talent since her Shelter has a HP ceiling of 70% instead of 40%, although her damage reduction tops out at 16% (+2% with pot) instead of 20%.
@@mahiru20ten Silence alter al least is decent tho
@@carolingio1152 Well, fortunately we got silence alter. Hope this could be a good sign of things to come for the abjurers
theory 4: it is a giant social experiment by HG to see if and how many their players invest in actual trash tier ops if they have giant badonkadonks
2:12 we all knew what he was going to say
Idk, they made shelter better in SSS by not needing to deploy her at all. What's worse is that it's global. A Medicx5 Lancet-2 is better than Tsukinogi.
Edit: Abjurers were made inferior to an already existing supporter who is one star lower in rarity. I guess they made them work like that since Podenco users exclusively use her for her S2 nowadays and wanted some other supporters to fill that niche.
insane strats
You can only stack class gear 3 times per class for an operator, but yeah, you probably could just give 3 medic equipment to two ranged ops
@@themambawarrior2290 The only hard limit for buffs in sss is the fact that you can't have more than 5 buffs at once , you can however have 5 buffs of the same class
@@themambawarrior2290 Where in the world did you hear that????? Yeah, I guess that must be why one of the most prevalent carry strats in SSS is 5xSniper Goldenglow, or 5xVanguard Irene.
@@amam-hv2xr Wait, seriously? I thought I read it in the instructions provided in-game for the mode, and I've been playing around that restriction the whole time.
I think it's more the issue of Abjurers just being poorly designed as a entire subclass. It's very telling that they later changed Abjurers' base trait from what it originally was, because they themselves were still experimenting with class, which I honestly disliked, because it just made them worse medics. Like honestly, I do not understand the purpose or role of Abjurers. Only time you'd use them is when you need a medic, but you're lacking just that bit of dmg, so you need them to deal few base attacks as well. Originally it was clear they tried to make a new subclass that mixed both traits of Decel Binders and Hexer, but it didn't work out, so they tried to shift them more to healing, but removing their ability to attack while using skill, removed the only thing that was any good about them. Abjurers are pretty much prototypes of Incantation Medics, which do exactly what Abjurers were supposed to do, but better. Dealing some damage (Reed doesn't count), while healing.
Still I love Tsukinogi, because stealth is one of AK's mechanics I hate the most, so anything that reveals it is great in my book. Whenever we got map with a lot of stealth enemies or stealth CC risk, I'd use her for huge area of effect reveal.
Also I won't stand for deer slander! Firewatch is amazing! I use her all the time and because she was first operator to receive true Invisibility and everyone since then got weaker Camouflage instead, cos HG realized it was too strong, she's truly unique and irreplaceable operator.
Indeed. They just don’t know what to really do with the branch, but not enough people care to where HG cares enough to genuinely try. It’s why we still don’t have a 6 star in the branch. Hell, it’s probably part of why we don’t we don’t have a 6 star deer yet.
Also yeah, Firewatch is the best out of all the deers. The only operator in the game to have invisibility and a pretty good nuke skill as well.
I feel like Tsuki's talent made her suck. If that Shelter effect has no HP restriction... it would make her less sucky, I guess.
And maybe HG should rework Shelter to something like extra RES or DEF.
And then there's her first skill. We know dodges could work. 2 star casters Durin and 12F has 50% dodges for Arts and Physical attacks respectively, and these two are pretty popular in low star clears. If they want to buff her first skill maybe that physical and dodge rate should be increased to Flametail levels.
I think the class just exists to pair with tanks, sometimes they don't need too much healing and using a medic just means that unit slot isn't dealing any damage.
@@echigokurogane8612 Since this was from 2 months ago, this comment is clearly made before Qiubai's announcement. She probably is the best deer in the game as of now.
Abjurer medics are perfectly useful in IS mode because it gives you another way to access healing so if you care about IS you should probably build at least one.
dont let it fool you, this is actually a hibicus showcase.
Yes it is
Wow, supah is actually making his video long now
They are proportionate to my--
Pay child support. Now
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Tongue
i dunno Firewatch's ability to just not give a shit about boss mechanics with her s1, and s2's le nuclear launch detected are pretty good, also her module lets her delete wraiths which is pretty good.
"HG hates deers"
Firewatch with the most broken skill 1 and an insane base module just chilling in the pack.
true
I really hate the fact that HG did higashi operators DIRTY especially our deer lady.
Higashi ops are decent at best
Saga: *exists*
Kazemaru: *exists*
There is that crab girl that IS decent for a placeholder blockade
I can clearly tell you don't have hoshiguma and shirayuki
>can heal enmity ops and summons
sora, perfumer, angelina and other passive healing sources I forgot (all of them do that + more):
tsukinogi really got fucked huh
Yes. This is why I mentioned it is not enough to make her useful.
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH I would never doubt you and your infinite wisdom don't worry
We literally have free bard that can heal enmity and summon better than tsukinogi, and its their trait, not their skill.
I cant believe its finally at that point where i have to spam the skip 10s button on a SUPAH video 😢
There are literally chapters you can use those
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Spam clicking on the 10s skip button gives you more time to think about the consequences of what capitalism can do to even the most zealous of Gummy lovers
I cannot unsee that triple-jointed arm now. Thanks.
0:46 Super Fast Text Says:
[There is no such thing as a truly useless unit], except for guard Skadi.
I am a Leizi enjoyer but I agree, Tsukinogi just exists...
"she is bad like Leizi"
bruh, Leizi is a viable option with her module lv 3 now.
Copium but I respect it.
Also, not what I said. I said Leizi was a failed experiment, and she was. She is getting better over time.
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH failed experiment is pretty much an equivalent of "bad" and while you are at it you can try her out and make a content off her consider she got better now. if not you got a free roast video which some people seems to love to content creator shit on something that isn't meta. it's a free engagement.
Got Leizi last week and when i looked at her skills i was just sad. She removes the bounce dmg decrease but her module does it almost all the time, meanwhile Puddings completely removes the damage decrease at base level. Thats just sad.
@@Xiol02 i mean Leizi has higher stat and multiplier. i don't think you would get that much value off Pudding S2 in general content.
@@littlelw319 They both have something good against one another imo.
Leizi has higher damage even against blocked enemies.
Puddings skill is more spammable and can bounce back and forth between 2 or 3 enemies. I dont know how much Leizis module gives in sp and i didnt calculate module buffs for neither of them.
I think the real answer lies between all the options. 1) She was an experimental unit, classic. 2) Her kit was designed before they changed archetype trait and hasn't been adjusted since. Hense the "stops attacking". 3) And yes, she's probably there to bloat the roster, sadly.
I think her kit would be way different if it was designed with archetype rework in mind. I really hope 6* abjurer gonna be actually good, or at least versatile so i can take it to IS idk?? Or i'll just skip them i guess.
project moon sleeper agent
Hopefully their module upgarde will make them usefull, Abjurer Supporter is one of the most unique arcetipe in this game
Now i look even more insane for building her.
Great video though made me rethink my life desicions and quetion my very sanity if i am still even considered as a sane person
Flashback to the time I bought her with certs while I was still new. Permanent account damage
jesus bro
i mean she is lewd and has a maid skin so it is not really a bad choice. right ?
She's bad? Just like me fr fr (guys i made a SELF-DEPRECATORY JOKE. Truly original. I'm so funny ik ik. Guys PLS laugh, i haven't had eye contact with people for decades)
"I think Hypergryph just hates deers"
*remembers that Courier is a deer*
:0
Technically not a deer even tho it’s in the species name. HG just realized that he doesn’t matter when there are better male vanguards that they made.
@@echigokurogane8612 I was today days old when I learned that musk deers are in fact, not deers. Also, Elysium carrying the entirity of male vanguards lol
You will change your mind very quickly when she smacks the Tsukkers to your noggers.
thank you supah i bought 8 (eight) LDPlayers because of your video!
how did you manage to buy free software
Two things:
1. As a disabled Canadian, your dig at our healthcare system has officially made you my new favourite Arknights content creator.
2. I was going to originally point out that HG can't hate deer THAT much because not just Firewatch but Courier exists and well, he's pretty good for what he is. But then I remembered he isn't classified as the typical deer race despite being one himself (mule deer). I always wondered why they did that and now I might just have the answer. X.x
Wait, nono, you're onto something. We know what happened to a certain Deer in story, that caused all of the main story events to even take off. HG hates deers
Operator Tsukinogi, put your mouth to good use, Gummy needs to be relieved.
I really think the archetype should focus on what it's name implies, and give them silence with their main attack, it wouldn't even be broken given you're foregoing dps in favor of a sturdier defense and they stop attacking suring their skill anyway
as a noblock player, i can confirm tsuki's existence is just to lower the amount of lives you're losing on stealth maps by a tiny bit because her downtime is just godawful
She was made bad on purpose for later alter version
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I mean they have been doing that very recently starting with Reed
if bad, why hot?
wait i think i got the quote wrong there...
I have her E2 level 35 I don’t know why it’s just because she has a maid skin.(I’m a simple man very easily impressed)
0:33 you just love to bully me huh?
The only way i see to make abjurers good is to either revert them slightly and let them heal AND DPS during skill or to triple down on the buff nature.
They should be closer to what bard supporters do, they are a "boost area" for your operators. Maybe giving all abjurers skills that proc something on heal, imagine how tsukinogi would be if her healing on-hit applied a short lived shield or made invis enemies take a DOT when revealed, or have her S2 healing give a small DEF bonus -on top of- shelter.
They gotta do more with their "stance switch" between attacking and healing.
Putting aside the obvious argument that abjurers don't even matter since we have a plethora of options to delete opponents in a matter of seconds so why would you even need them...
Their niche is pretty jank, "Shelter" effect sounds amazing on paper but then you realize it's an additional slot on the map that has to be put alongside units that already have some sort of sustain, or medics at which point... why even bother? I can guarantee that there are close to no situations where you'd need both normal healing AND Shelter, it's exceedingly rare.
The HP threshold is also a very harsh condition, no wonder that NCD removes it with her S2 and Quercus traded some Shelter power for a 70%+ HP threshold that's insanely more useful since it actually makes you able to survive some heavy blows at full health. Hey at least abjurers became a bit better with each addition so there's that. Heck I actually use Quercus decently often, she even carried my butt in H10-3.
supah been making better and better videos by the second
"I just keep getting better and better." - Neon White from Neon White (2022)
You're on to something, but since it's a theory atm, I'll be standing on the fence for Tsukinogi due to (2) reasons.
Hypergryph treating Higashi like Mihoyo's Genshin dev team treating Inazuma or even (sometimes) Honkai Dev team to Japanese-named characters
The red haired Kanchou weeps of how his Himeko's demise happens from the campaign story to an Estranged Stars event's multiverse version of Himeko
I can't unsee that triple joint!
I sub cause accent is very great.
I like how it pairs very well with your humor.
Finally, someone acknowledges Tsukinogi's best feature: her third elbow
As long she has a maid skin, unlike kalt'sit. We have to wait years for maid Kalt'sit
The 35% arts dodge can be used against Black Snake witch is situational af but that menance is making a return in the boss rush mode so Ig there is a second use for her? Right?
Also I wonder if the S1 dodge stacks with Nightingale's S3 dodge?
The only reason I ever thought of for using Tsukinogi was sticking her next to Helagur, and that still didn't sound good enough for me to actually bother doing it. I think they're afraid to make buff supporters at any rarity under 6* actually good. Just look at Windflit.
Thx for the emulator shilling. I was looking for one.
Can rule out S1's being bad on purpose; that's an artifact from when Hypergriff ripped off Millenium War Aigis to create this game. Also why there was a percent next to the tokens when you potential up an operator for the longest time. Too bad they didn't copy some of the more "satisfying" aspects of the game.
The triple-jointed arm got me there! Oh man
Supah you know we don't talk about HG treatmeant of deer operatos, you know because of the implications...
6:29 that one friend that has a maxed out Tsukinogi: *My goals are beyond your understanding*
Nah Supah, you forgot 1 thing just like Leizi and Passenger you have to wait for 6 star abjurer to make big money for HG so they have enough funds to put 5 minutes thought for the archetype
12:45 To be fair, even a normal well adjusted person can't even reach the amount of shower to match the normal distribution of IQ.
I also would like to think that HG didn't purposely make Tsukinogi and more like 'the experimental unit' for a better unit (then again, just like Captain Price once said: "It's not hard to improve on garbage").
S1 Tsukinogi is just copy/pasting Elysium because they can't think of anything at the moment and S2 is seems like an attempt to make her into a temporary Bard.
Tsukinogi's S1 is much stronger though. Elysium's S2 only reveal up to 4 units, that were in his range at the moment of casting. Tsukinogi has way long duration and keeps revealing anything that walks into her range, which makes her amazing on stages with a lot of stealth enemies you want to burst/kill fast.
I will NOT accept Firewatch slander. But yeah Tsukinogi can go kick rocks I pulled her on the Gavialter banner
I use Frostleaf and Kirara quite often.. Idk maybe not in CC/hardest ex stages but for almost all content it's not hard to use them. Especially in is2 kirara can solo 1 stage and frostleaf can hit air targets+cheap guard.
Kirara at least has the damage, Frostleaf is not good at general content but she's actually decent in IS since relics synergize well with her skill + expanded range. Also, Arene exists as a better option while being equally cheap to raise.
Theory #: I heard she was released suddenly during CC Beta in CN
Back then there was this stage called Abandoned Tower (I still don't know why they settled for "Abandoned Highrise"). This stage is a drone-focused stage.
One time, there was a risk combination of Banned Melee Ops and Invisible Drones. The available ops back then that can reveal invisible enemies were Melee operators (I only knew SilverAsh) and some players complained that max risk for that rotation is impossible. Thus, the sudden release of Tsukinogi
Remember that Firewatch was actually nerfed shortly after release? Her 3 bombs at M3 used to be able to hit the same tile, thus stacking her damage to nuke stuff.
Add to that that Czerny was shoved down our throat as the welfare operator in place of the Hibiskus alter we expected and wanted, thus purposefully making him the target of the palyerbase's hated. Gitano? Stuns herself after her skill. The deer? poor girl doesn't even have a nose!
These convincing pieces of evidence leve me no choice but to conclude that Hypergriph do, in fact, hate deer!
Seriously, they even broke her arm in her artwork. She was probably forced to pose for that right after one of the devs ran her over with a car on purpose.
That's some obvious animal cruelty right there.
HOW DARE YOU SLANDER FROSTLEAF
My theory is that a deer hit their car one time. Just one time! And they will never forget….
Hypergryph doesn't hate deer, they jus-
*Coldshot*
tsukinogi still has a niche: the only invis reveal for anti male players which is common in JP/EN
9:15 And so, Skill 1 disappeared Without a Trace
I have a history with Tsukinogi, and it's not a good one. I originally got her when I was pulling for Asbestos, arguably my first major gacha failure. The second time was when I was pulling for Beeswax, another failure. Since then I have seen her as an omen of gacha failure/major spending on my F2P account and I went from ignoring her to actively fearing and hating her.
No amount of booba and maid fetish will make me forgive the amount of pulls I wasted just for her to show up, so I thank you for explaining just how bad Tsukinogi is to the world
Good on you on getting sponsored!
Quick question though: Do you plan on playing with the pngs of operators as dolls and making them say funny things, or are sketches and such a thing of the past now?
Next vid is a sketch. Already in the working.
With playback speed, don't think I didn't see that split sec of gaurd skadi now
I Feel like all abjurer was made bad on purpose for battle and ok for base use. At least for nine-colored and Quercus got a decent base skill. I can't see what module they will end up having or how they will design a 6-star around it.
Nine-Colored Deer and Quercus are actually pretty decent in combat, it’s just that their kits are easily outclassed by others in most scenarios. Quercus is pretty much the weakest SP feeder, especially considering most of the feeders in the game are 5 stars.
@@echigokurogane8612 Crazy idea has anyone tried using Quercus in sss and stacking max sp regan on her and having her feed everyone around her?
Money lets goooo
2:22 Counter Gummy is good as a healing defender. But not best...that reward goes to Saria. A healing defender with crowd control and debuffs. Change my mind
Banned
Based SUPAH, enjoyed the vid bruv.
Very nice
Tsukinogi's S2 basically makes her a f*ucking bard, which not very useful (not [no Skadi : Skadi Alter]) but it would be a little better if it's range become global and remove the "stop attacking mention"
Yo, I maxxed her. And she helped me complete a event. Because the defensive buffs she gives made it possible to tank the crazy dmg of that stage. The event was when she came out.
there are other operators that have dodge, you can stack it with her.
To be honest I couldn't understand what tsukinogi's role in a run in the first place , her damage output is just sad and the skill she provides are just.....eh ?
Maybe something along that lines of being just no use for anything In general was her going full circle for her
Yes, that's the point. She just doesn't have a role at all. She just does nothing.
Bro, that car analogy killed me lmao
thanks for the compliments~
The project lead personally shot Bambi's mom.
As someone who regularly uses Leizi I don't think she is a failed experiment it's just that their class's niche is attacking target outside their range through chain damage which is dumb if you consider there is a better way of doing things which is to not let them get past your DPS's range but they can still be used to deal damage ahead of time for enemies not yet in range and that's the gimmick not the best but pretty usable on all stages. One more thing Firewatch is not mediocre bruh!
Jesus Christ Blacknight's Slumberfoot deals more damage than her... It's even worse than I thought.
And aye congrats on sh̶i̶l̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ successfully having a sponsor, Supah!
tsukinogi simps are coping that hard huh
I can no longer unsee her broken arm. Ouch.
congrats bro you now got sponsor.....you finally make money
SUPAH we need to talk about your Gummy art collection
Nyo
Supah the Sponsored Arktuber, so proud....
0:46 Ah Hell Nah Guard Skadi fun
When you are making a funny meme video... but then you get to an uncomfortable possibility.
(pretending to understand what this comment means) haha yeah
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH HEY! You are the one who discovered this, why do you make me sound like the conspiracy theorist!?
She's excellent if you're playing a ranged-only niche and need to kill more than 1 invisible enemy (otherwise just use Rosmontis).
You're not a real youtuber yet, till you got sponsored by RAID: Shadow Legends. The sponsor for todays comment.
How did you do it how did you get them to sponsor a comment..................
Whats that amiya gif at 0:38?
SUPAH WITH A SPONSOR 😱😱😱😱😱 THE WORLD IS ENDING😱😱
All the deers kinda bad except Firewatch. Instead, Hypergryph killed all of her friends and family.
not even 1 minute and I already feel directly attacked cus I unironically use frostleaf and skadi but I get it.
to be fair, skadi is great when abyssal hunters and modules exist
You promised me a 13:34 hat why is there no 13:34 hat
I lied to you
They should've adjusted the HP threshold or just overhaul the entire bloody trait tbh
But then again, why shelter when enemy turn to Originium Dust™®©
Edit: Congrats on turning into a sellout LMAO
(In all seriousness it's poggers you got a sponsor :) )
Firewatch is stupid strong with the right setup tho.
She can literally kill the current event boss in 0.1S
I fuckin hate it dude. The fact that even after two reworks Tsukinogi still doesn't pull her weight (or much of her class either) is just stupid.
Her removing stealth would be great but good god her stats are dogwater.
So The Problem is not the mommy but racism?
This sound like a 5 star unit problem lmao.
truly, it is