Hello Pro Tools, The Bosch 7 1/4 Pro Factor saw I feel should have been included in the testing. I use my Bosch saw with an 8amp battery and have excellent results. Please put some thought it in future testing. Thank you for the video.
My Craftsman experience with power tools ended in the 1980's. Every power tool I had had major failures from poor quality checks. Missing bearing, bad switch, weak casting, etc. They had their chance.
Ryobi got screwed on this test. All these other saws using their top line, largest battery. Ryobi was stuck with a 4aH. It would have been fair to use the 8 or 9 aH. It wouldn’t have beaten out Milwaukee but at least it would have been a more fair test
It doesn’t matter that much. That Ryobi circ saw is a piece of garbage. Ryobi makes a few good tools but they just can’t seem to figure out how to make a circular saw to save their lives.
I noticed you left out Bosch and Hercules, I will stick with my 60 volt Dewalt. Skil is the most overlooked brand. I have some of their 12 volt tools, love them. And would have gotten Skills 40 volt(20volt *2) 7.25 circular saw, but it came out a few weeks after I bought the Dewalt 60 volt worm style saw.
Have the REAR HANDLE 40 volt 2 BATTERY saw it has power with those 5 AMP 20 Volt batteries just wish I could get an ADAPTER'S to run FLEX 6 AMP STACKED LITHIUM BATTERY'S
Flex great showing for a new brand they should get more love in the market hope flex doesn't give up to soon I think they could compete as more younger guys buy their first professional tools it's just going to take time as guys already in the trades are invested in batteries.
I’ve handled corded and cordless saws for years in framing and trim carpentry, the corded makita was always the easiest to use with great power and nothing ever felt as comfortable. Tried many brands for weeks, and when I say me and the 60 year old framers knew right away using the Dewalt flexvolt saw that this was going to be our full time saws moving forward, I mean we knew right away. Closest thing to perfection
Yeah, friend of mine took advantage of that same deal. He brought it over and I set up a little rig to test it out on 2x8 and see how it does vs my Milwaukee fuel 2732 saw and I must say the flex rear handle is very smooth and powerful. Both saws cut as fast as the other but once I push unnecessarily hard on my M18 saw, it stalls out, the flex doesn’t. Mind you I already used my saw quite a bit and the flex had a fresh blade but still impressive.
I think the cobalt XTr is a pro grade tool. They just need to update their XTr line because their tools are all about 5 years old now with no updates Also, why did you leave out the Hercules saw I was really interested to see how it would perform
Hmmm seeing that Metabo hpt it's using a older style battery being compared to the forge batteries it still outperformed the Milwaukee in some tests where it dnf on. It Ran right through the middle of the pack on most test and even surpassed Hilti twice. This saw is literally 107 right now on Amazon. Under value value. But one thing to notice it has a larger 2 7/16 depth of cut. Which i know Milwaukee depth of cut tends to be on the shallower side so i want to see all the depth of cuts compared. I find the sightline things really weird on these years. I cannot say i like Milwaukee sightlines as i have that saw.
So metabo hpt uses the old model saw, which their new one that is like 4 months old now, has like 30% more power. Ryobi was tested with a 4ah 2p battery with 18650 cells, when they offer the 8ah 2p and 12ah 3p that uses 21700 cells. Even ridgid, a mechanical sibling to the ryobi, was tested with the 8ah 2p 21700 cell battery. This is just out of the brands I'm familiar with. I don't know much about makita 40v, hilti or skil, but now this makes me question their results too, like is there a newer model or notably better battery that wasn't tested with?
Not really. Tools brands have computers inside their tools and batteries to communicate how much power the battery can send. So unless they speak the same language, you won't get as much power as if it was the same brand where they talk to each other.
The Milwaukee saw is really big. A mans saw haha I don’t like it because I can’t watch my blade cut, the DeWalt I can see my blade at all times thru the “peep hole” and watch my blade cut accurately
I can't see a battery operated saw superior over corded, lol. I guess if you're on a job site all day, but you still need hydro to keep charging batteries. Plus the cost of having enough batteries to keep working all day. I prefer my corded which hasn't cost a cent more since its purchase.
I doubted as well theres a video of an old timer running a corded skilsaw mag 77 against a dewalt 60v rear handle and it smoked the skilsaw. The cordless ones run at higher rpms the xgt makita i have runs 6400 rpms
@@juanc5149it’s cause Milwaukee has surpassed the competition for the last 5 years. Theres a reason why they dominate all other power tool brands in North America. By every measurable margin TTI out sells and out preforms Stanly Black and decker and Makita in every respective trim level of tool. From the DYI budget tools to the heavy duty professional grade tools TTI dominates.
I am in a shootout of the Makita 36 or 40 volt Milwaukee worm drive Hilti sc 36 worm drive As a carpenter going cordless. I learned dewalt is an apprentice tool that is good enough many HVAC use them Milwaukee is for plumbers and electricians a very good warranty Makita is a carpenter grade tool with weaker warranty only 3 years Hilti isexpert class tool with 20 year warranty that all tool test have it near the bottom in testing . Wonder why a tool with near lifetime warranty prefoms poorly I own DeWalt, Bosch , Makita Milwaukee cordless, have seen and friend asked if knew cordless drill could catch on fire? Tool test at VCG construction shows the tools problem that needs attention. To buy cheap tools is more costly I learned burned up two drills in a year changed brands lasted approximately ten switched to contractor grade tools still using them all yet have been used on long days, been operating in dusty environments, for several years still work like new.
My experience as a contractor, Makita has terrible sightlines, they moved the motor forward to make more compact, Milwaukee too heavy and heats up and cuts out because it is taxing the 18 volt system to hard ,I have been using the Dewalt Flexvolt dcs 575 for around 6 years ,it is the best in every way .
No Bosch? Are the manufacturers providing the tools? Or is the channel going out and buying these saws for the test? And Milwaukee as the Best Overall is an interesting choice since its suggested to upgrade the battery immediately after purchase to get the best performance out of it.
These are all mostly stationary saws. Why should you go cordless? Into a workshop, i would work only corded. Never have to worry about charging batteries. Maybe the dual power battery and corded saws. But only battery, is a big no for me.
@engineer_alv exactly. Laptops, portable cameras have been dual power since the 80's. I guess they just want us to go out and buy new stuff. Cause battery is dispensible but corded is for life. Dual battery though is a game changer.
Really Milwaukee not the most powerful and prone to burn outs. Dewalt flex Volt is a better circular saw
Correct. The biggest Milwaukee battery against the mid sized dewalt battery.
Hello Pro Tools,
The Bosch 7 1/4 Pro Factor saw I feel should have been included in the testing. I use my Bosch saw with an 8amp battery and have excellent results. Please put some thought it in future testing. Thank you for the video.
Yes, wa just now, coming to comment on the fact, the Bosch ProFactor is missing out of this test. It is beast of a saw, I love it. Much Respect.
A truly inexcusable omission.
@@engineer_alv Absolutely 💯
Excellent Review. I prefer Makita!
6 1/2 version now!!!
Fully craftsman gets some credit. Never had a problem with any of the tools
Must not be in the field ive seen apprentices burn up 2 drills and impact. Craftsman good for homeowner
@@theone-ou3gdapprentices are highly skilled at this 😉
My Craftsman experience with power tools ended in the 1980's. Every power tool I had had major failures from poor quality checks. Missing bearing, bad switch, weak casting, etc. They had their chance.
Burnt up 2 Milwaukee’s. Yes the warrantied them. My dewalt is still going though. Longevity is a metric too. Just saying.
Hard to test in a review, but I agree, it's a very important metric.
Ryobi got screwed on this test. All these other saws using their top line, largest battery. Ryobi was stuck with a 4aH. It would have been fair to use the 8 or 9 aH. It wouldn’t have beaten out Milwaukee but at least it would have been a more fair test
A lot of the saws didnt have their best batteries, like the makita, the ridgid, the craftsman and the skil
It doesn’t matter that much. That Ryobi circ saw is a piece of garbage. Ryobi makes a few good tools but they just can’t seem to figure out how to make a circular saw to save their lives.
I bought a Ryobi brushless. It cross cut 2 2x4 before giving up. Returned and went with Makita 36v.
I noticed you left out Bosch and Hercules, I will stick with my 60 volt Dewalt. Skil is the most overlooked brand. I have some of their 12 volt tools, love them. And would have gotten Skills 40 volt(20volt *2) 7.25 circular saw, but it came out a few weeks after I bought the Dewalt 60 volt worm style saw.
I used to like skil, but their battery style changed and u couldn't get a new one
Have the REAR HANDLE 40 volt 2 BATTERY saw it has power with those 5 AMP 20 Volt batteries just wish I could get an ADAPTER'S to run FLEX 6 AMP STACKED LITHIUM BATTERY'S
The Forge battery is $200......
So is the flex volt
RIP that guy's lungs... Crazy running all these tests with no respirator
Flex great showing for a new brand they should get more love in the market hope flex doesn't give up to soon I think they could compete as more younger guys buy their first professional tools it's just going to take time as guys already in the trades are invested in batteries.
Wish I saw worm drive style, that's my preference
I’ve handled corded and cordless saws for years in framing and trim carpentry, the corded makita was always the easiest to use with great power and nothing ever felt as comfortable. Tried many brands for weeks, and when I say me and the 60 year old framers knew right away using the Dewalt flexvolt saw that this was going to be our full time saws moving forward, I mean we knew right away. Closest thing to perfection
Bought a Flex Rear handle with 10 aHr battery and charger for $280. from Rona Store ( ex Lowes store) best deal ever!
Yeah, friend of mine took advantage of that same deal. He brought it over and I set up a little rig to test it out on 2x8 and see how it does vs my Milwaukee fuel 2732 saw and I must say the flex rear handle is very smooth and powerful. Both saws cut as fast as the other but once I push unnecessarily hard on my M18 saw, it stalls out, the flex doesn’t. Mind you I already used my saw quite a bit and the flex had a fresh blade but still impressive.
I have 2 Dewalt and 3 milwaukee❤🇩🇿🇩🇿 from algeria
I think the cobalt XTr is a pro grade tool. They just need to update their XTr line because their tools are all about 5 years old now with no updates
Also, why did you leave out the Hercules saw I was really interested to see how it would perform
Hmmm seeing that Metabo hpt it's using a older style battery being compared to the forge batteries it still outperformed the Milwaukee in some tests where it dnf on. It Ran right through the middle of the pack on most test and even surpassed Hilti twice. This saw is literally 107 right now on Amazon. Under value value.
But one thing to notice it has a larger 2 7/16 depth of cut. Which i know Milwaukee depth of cut tends to be on the shallower side so i want to see all the depth of cuts compared. I find the sightline things really weird on these years. I cannot say i like Milwaukee sightlines as i have that saw.
They aren't even using the latest Metabo saw either. Confusing.
The best just got even better!!!
Putting the graphs in order would have been nice
So metabo hpt uses the old model saw, which their new one that is like 4 months old now, has like 30% more power.
Ryobi was tested with a 4ah 2p battery with 18650 cells, when they offer the 8ah 2p and 12ah 3p that uses 21700 cells. Even ridgid, a mechanical sibling to the ryobi, was tested with the 8ah 2p 21700 cell battery.
This is just out of the brands I'm familiar with. I don't know much about makita 40v, hilti or skil, but now this makes me question their results too, like is there a newer model or notably better battery that wasn't tested with?
VERY curious to see the new 7.25 with the 12.O Forge battery, should be very competitive for that top full depth cut spot.
Milwaukee claim its the most powerfull saw on the planet
Milwaukee claim the new gen its the most powerfull saw on the earth regardless if its corded or cordless
For me its makita, why? those are the batteries i already have
Theres a newer version on the metabo hpt saw. Im sure it wouldn't have won but your using older models on these test.
I have a question what if you swap batteries of another maker with adapters, would that change saw performance?
Not really. Tools brands have computers inside their tools and batteries to communicate how much power the battery can send. So unless they speak the same language, you won't get as much power as if it was the same brand where they talk to each other.
The Milwaukee saw is really big. A mans saw haha I don’t like it because I can’t watch my blade cut, the DeWalt I can see my blade at all times thru the “peep hole” and watch my blade cut accurately
Hercules is the main one besides the flex and Milwaukee you gotta have
I can't see a battery operated saw superior over corded, lol. I guess if you're on a job site all day, but you still need hydro to keep charging batteries. Plus the cost of having enough batteries to keep working all day. I prefer my corded which hasn't cost a cent more since its purchase.
I doubted as well theres a video of an old timer running a corded skilsaw mag 77 against a dewalt 60v rear handle and it smoked the skilsaw. The cordless ones run at higher rpms the xgt makita i have runs 6400 rpms
Impact drivers now, I hope you can bring in the new DEWALT .
@@juanc5149 you really think so ?
@@juanc5149it’s cause Milwaukee has surpassed the competition for the last 5 years. Theres a reason why they dominate all other power tool brands in North America. By every measurable margin TTI out sells and out preforms Stanly Black and decker and Makita in every respective trim level of tool. From the DYI budget tools to the heavy duty professional grade tools TTI dominates.
I am in a shootout of the
Makita 36 or 40 volt
Milwaukee worm drive
Hilti sc 36 worm drive
As a carpenter going cordless.
I learned dewalt is an apprentice tool that is
good enough many HVAC use them
Milwaukee is for plumbers and electricians a very good warranty
Makita is a carpenter grade tool with weaker warranty only 3 years
Hilti isexpert class tool with 20 year warranty that all tool test have it near the bottom in testing . Wonder why a tool with near lifetime warranty prefoms poorly
I own DeWalt, Bosch , Makita Milwaukee cordless, have seen and friend asked if knew cordless drill could catch on fire?
Tool test at VCG construction shows the tools problem that needs attention.
To buy cheap tools is more costly I learned burned up two drills in a year changed brands lasted approximately ten switched to contractor grade tools still using them all yet have been used on long days, been operating in dusty environments, for several years still work like new.
My experience as a contractor, Makita has terrible sightlines, they moved the motor forward to make more compact, Milwaukee too heavy and heats up and cuts out because it is taxing the 18 volt system to hard ,I have been using the Dewalt Flexvolt dcs 575 for around 6 years ,it is the best in every way .
No Bosch? Are the manufacturers providing the tools? Or is the channel going out and buying these saws for the test?
And Milwaukee as the Best Overall is an interesting choice since its suggested to upgrade the battery immediately after purchase to get the best performance out of it.
best off parkside 40w performance 2×20V 8Ah
same thing with angle grinders
All trash.Blades on the wrong side bro
If you are a left handed cutter these are for you!
Makita sightlines are terrible, they hunched up the saw and moved the drive shaft forward thus cramping the front sight view !!!
These are all mostly stationary saws. Why should you go cordless? Into a workshop, i would work only corded. Never have to worry about charging batteries. Maybe the dual power battery and corded saws. But only battery, is a big no for me.
@engineer_alv exactly. Laptops, portable cameras have been dual power since the 80's. I guess they just want us to go out and buy new stuff. Cause battery is dispensible but corded is for life. Dual battery though is a game changer.
I'm a looking to build outside of town.
Many cords don't go as far as you want it.