Yahusha said unto her: Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Yah, and your Yah. Yochanon (John) 20:17 And this is life eternal, that they might know you the only true Yah, and Yahusha Ha'Mashiach, whom you have sent. Yochanon (John) 17:3 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Yochanon (John) 14:28 Then said Yahusha unto him: Get you hence, Satan; for it is written, You shall worship Yahuah Elohayka, and him only shall you serve. Mattithyahu (Matthew) 4:10 And Yahusha said unto him: Why do you call me good? There is none good but one, that is, Elohiym. Marqus (Mark) 10:18
Dale, I actually found this quite depressing. That this same stupid prooftexting by trinitarians and heresy hunters has been going on so long, and so accessible to see and think through. It made me wonder whether it is worth continuing to try to make them think.
@@DaleTuggy Yes, the number of commenters just here on YT has grown a lot, some admitting they have recently changed, so i do see that Dale, and though I do wonder sometimes, depressingly here almost 2000 years later, trying to show what these scriptures are actually saying, the very same stuff your examples showed, seemingly no one noticed... there comes again a challenge deep within me, an excitement to proclaim truth. Sorry i missed you in North Island last month, i had to cancel.
What ought to be more depressing is that your fake god was conquered and is so pathetic that it allowed the supposed "mumbo jumbo" of trinitarians to spread Christianity far and wide whilst groups like yours debate over scraps of theological space.
Matthew 1 the genealogy of Yahushua is incorrect. 14.14.14 generations from Adam to Messiah ends with Yuseph the Father of Miryam...... not Yuseph the husband of Miryam. According to KJV that would render Yahushua not to be the son of David. Because the husband didn't impregnate her.....the Ruach haQuadesh did.(HS). Folks there are fatal flaws and fraudulent content in especially the KJV......and ELYON THE MOST HIGH is doing what He said He would in last days......He expose ALL the lies of Christianity.
Its called PERSONIFICATION. the word/logos is made flesh in every firstborn son of the Father. Revelation 21:7. Everyone begotten of the Fathers incorruptible seed are his sons born of his spirit. James 1:18, i peter 1:3, 1:23. "I said YOU are elohim and are ALL sons of the Most High". Psalm 82:6.
Christolics are the first to be condemned when the True Masiach returns as King. Im NOT referring to jesuschrist the baztard god, created by Christianolic's(christianity) ......the blue eyed red bairded white European image dating back to 1948 when one Sallman launched this publicity propaganda campaign only surpassed by Coca Cola and Disney..... in effectiveness. The duality and inseparability of that IMAGE and the term "jesus" will remain in the dirty conscience of CHRISTIANITY until Yahushua haMasiach set foot again here.
@kronos01ful None of those verses state or imply that God is "triune." God is the God and Father of Jesus (John 20:17), Jesus is the Son of God (John 20:31).
@LoveAndLiberty02 Have you been baptized by the holy Spirit? Because scripture says You have to be born again to understand God. How is it that Reading Hebrews chapter 1 and Jesus sending the holy Spirit you can see the Trinity? If you don't believe in the father who you pray in the name of Jesus and are guided by the Holy Spirit how are you a Christian ?
@@LoveAndLiberty02 Have you been baptized by the Holy Spirit? Because without the baptism of the Spirit you will not the able to understand God. The scriptures are clear you need all 3 to be save. The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. You cant go to the father without the Son and without the baptism of the Spirit you are not a son of God.
Acts 19:11-12 - (NRSV): "God did extraordinary miracles THROUGH (Greek word διὰ/dia) Paul, 12 so that when the handkerchiefs aprons that had touched his skin were brought to the sick, their diseases left them, and the evil spirits came out of them." Was Paul the source of these extraordinary miracles? Or was someone greater working through him to accomplish these miracles? It's the same with Jesus in creation.
Are you saying that God is incapable of creating something by Himself? Firstly, Jesus himself never claimed to be God. Secondly, Jesus clearly acknowledged that God created "male and female" (Matthew 19:4,6), and Paul taught that God was the Creator (Acts 17:4). (We need to understand Paul’s writings in the light of his clear statements.)
The whole argument between Trinitarianism and Unitarianism is like arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Either side can find opinions of others who support their view. But that's all they ever produce - the opinions of others. There is no external way to validate or vitiate either view. We cannot run an experiment, make an observation or conduct a text. And this is how all Christian theology develops and evolves. It is all simply citing the opinions of others. But those opinions are either made up or based on even earlier opinions. And so on, until we get back to the original progenitor of the view, and he made it up. This is why any honest academic has to dismiss Christian theology, it is nothing more than interpreting the views of other, earlier writers to make any case one wishes to.
Yahusha said unto her: Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Yah, and your Yah. Yochanon (John) 20:17 And this is life eternal, that they might know you the only true Yah, and Yahusha Ha'Mashiach, whom you have sent. Yochanon (John) 17:3 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Yochanon (John) 14:28 Then said Yahusha unto him: Get you hence, Satan; for it is written, You shall worship Yahuah Elohayka, and him only shall you serve. Mattithyahu (Matthew) 4:10 And Yahusha said unto him: Why do you call me good? There is none good but one, that is, Elohiym. Marqus (Mark) 10:18
Christolics are the first to be condemned when the True Masiach returns as King. Im NOT referring to jesuschrist the baztard god, created by Christianolic's(christianity) ......the blue eyed red bairded white European image dating back to 1948 when one Sallman launched this publicity propaganda campaign only surpassed by Coca Cola and Disney..... in effectiveness. The duality and inseparability of that IMAGE and the term "jesus" will remain in the dirty conscience of CHRISTIANITY until Yahushua haMasiach set foot again here.
The Gethsemane scene that Dr. Tuggy offers as a refutation of "Modalistic Monarchianism" actually refutes Dr. Tuggy's argument...
"Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak." (Matthew 26:41)
A single person, according to the spirit, can be willing to obey, while that same person, according to the flesh, can simultaneously be willing to disobey. One person, with two simultaneous and contrary wills.
Furthermore, an omnipotent and omnipresent Father would certainly be capable of being in two "places" at the same "time" - one in heaven, where he has an eternal will, and one in Gethsemane, in true human form, where he has a contrary will.
Dr. Tuggy's argument against "Modalistic Monarchianism" falls flat.
One single person can be internally conflicted, yes, but I would certainly look askance at person in which their flesh prays to their spirit using the differing pronouns "I" and "you". The prayer of that kind of person would reasonably be the prayer of someone with multiple personality disorder. It should give us pause that this construct of God would be comparable to a person with a concerning disorder. It would be utter confusion of what "Father" and "Son" mean to analogize "Father" to the spirit of a person and "Son" to the flesh of that same one person, not to mention that we don't find that analogy in scripture to help us understand.
Daniel 7:13 as my vision continued that night, I saw someone like a son of man[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient One and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, honor, and sovereignty over all the nations of the world, so that people of every race and nation and language would obey him. His rule is eternal-it will never end. His kingdom will never be destroyed. Sounds like subordination to me. Notice the lack of a third person also. Bless you ✝️
If Christ had “all power and authority” by nature (being supposedly consubstantial with the Father), then there is no sense in saying he was given what he would’ve already possessed
sounds like a prophecy of future events to me of something in Daniels future, so it is no proof of this being the modus operandi of that era in OT. i.e. it looks forward to when that "son of man" (means a human descendant of the flower of all mankind, Eve, [the "seed of the woman Gen3:15] ) who at being raised after being dead three days and nights in a grave, after his crucifixion, comes before the one God, and is "given power and authority in all heaven and earth." Like Jesus tells his disciples. (like Joseph was given all power and authority in egypt, by pharaoh, even though Joe wasnt an egyptian, but was a prisoner slave on death row)
Isaiah 51:5-9 arm is judge nations, (jesus Matthew 25:31-32 ) ... arm of rahab is the commander of hosts Joshuah 5:15 & 6:2 take off your sandals said the angel of the lord - is in Exodus :-3:2-5 burning bush, take of your sandals... Acts 7:35-8 the angel of the lord , is "i will raise a prophet" Deut. Judges 13:21- angel of the lord spoke went into a FLAME of burnt offereing and they said they had spoken to god Daniel 3:17 If this be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the BURNING fiery furnace 24 Then King Nebuchadnezzar was astonished and rose up in haste. He declared to his counselors, “Did we not cast three men bound into the fire?” They answered and said to the king, “True, O king.” 25 He answered and said, “But I see four men unbound, walking in the midst of the FIRE, and they are not hurt; and the appearance of the fourth is like a SON OF THE GOD.” God called FIRE from God in heaven Geneus 19:24. For the Lord your God is a consuming FIRE, a jealous God” (Deuteronomy 4:23-24) And Elijah answered and said unto them, If I be a man of God, let FIRE come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And the fire of God came down from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty. 2:kings 1:12 The arm of god = comnander = angel of the lord is but not god. god delivers by the son of god There is more to say but this a good summary, the angel of the lord is distinct and is God . the son of god is distinct and is God Proverbs 30:4 (angel of the lord = son of god) 👆🏿 Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Whose hands have gathered up the WIND? Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is the name of his son? Surely you know! wind is ruach it is both wind and/or spirit wrapped is tsarar, to bound , enemies. synonym to enimity (ebah) in genesis 3:15 waters is mayim, sea leviathon Wind and water creation Genesis 1:2 play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hagiostech.greekinterlinearbible I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say, 'My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please Isaiah 46:9-10 the end
@@mario.migneault Mario you have made a lot of statements which are confusing. Some make no sense in english. I will respond to you saying "the angel of the lord is God." This is totally misunderstood. In greek "angelos" which is translated "angel" means messenger. So we read "the messenger of the lord." and the word "of" is the connection to the one who sent that messenger. The "Lord" in this case in greek is Kurios and in Hebrew is Adonai, which both mean the Lord of Israel. YHWH. The God most high. So here we find this is "the messenger of YHWH." If its the messenger OF YHWH, then obviously its not YHWH eh? So you stating that it IS Yhwh, is simply wrong by language definition. in hebrew, greek and english.
The Father is before all Yeshua is before creation..... And unto the the church of the Laodiceans write, these things says the Amen the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the Creation of God Revelations 3: 14.... In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth and the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters, and God said let there be LIGHT... Genesis 1...1,2 3.... i came forth from the Father and have come into the world, I leave the world and go to the Father... John 16: 28..... So shall My Word that goes out of my mouth, it shall not return to Me void but it shall accomplish that which i please, and shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.... Isaiah 55: 11.... And Yeshua said to her, touch Me not for i have not yet ascended to My Father , but go and tell My brethren and say to them, i ascend to my Father and to your Father, and to My God and your God.... John 20: 17... And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory the glory as of the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth..... John 1: 14.... Yeshua was before anything other then His Father GOD!
Dale Tuggy is just presenting the sources what were the majority Christian believes in that time. You should defend the Holy Scriptures, and NOT your church Doktrin - IF you really care about your own salvation. God bless. 🕎
Christolics are the first to be condemned when the True Masiach returns as King. Im NOT referring to jesuschrist the baztard god, created by Christianolic's(christianity) ......the blue eyed red bairded white European image dating back to 1948 when one Sallman launched this publicity propaganda campaign only surpassed by Coca Cola and Disney..... in effectiveness. The duality and inseparability of that IMAGE and the term "jesus" will remain in the dirty conscience of CHRISTIANITY until Yahushua haMasiach set foot again here.
Yahusha said unto her: Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Yah, and your Yah. Yochanon (John) 20:17 And this is life eternal, that they might know you the only true Yah, and Yahusha Ha'Mashiach, whom you have sent. Yochanon (John) 17:3 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Yochanon (John) 14:28 Then said Yahusha unto him: Get you hence, Satan; for it is written, You shall worship Yahuah Elohayka, and him only shall you serve. Mattithyahu (Matthew) 4:10 And Yahusha said unto him: Why do you call me good? There is none good but one, that is, Elohiym. Marqus (Mark) 10:18
Build a God, contradiction galore hopefully Trinitarians will think about the truth and who's who and whats what but anything goes in Trinity world
Yahusha said unto her: Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Yah, and your Yah. Yochanon (John) 20:17
And this is life eternal, that they might know you the only true Yah, and Yahusha Ha'Mashiach, whom you have sent. Yochanon (John) 17:3
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Yochanon (John) 14:28
Then said Yahusha unto him: Get you hence, Satan; for it is written, You shall worship Yahuah Elohayka, and him only shall you serve. Mattithyahu (Matthew) 4:10
And Yahusha said unto him: Why do you call me good? There is none good but one, that is, Elohiym. Marqus (Mark) 10:18
Dale, I actually found this quite depressing. That this same stupid prooftexting by trinitarians and heresy hunters has been going on so long, and so accessible to see and think through.
It made me wonder whether it is worth continuing to try to make them think.
I understand the feeling! Be assure though that there are truth-seekers out there who are open to this information.
@@DaleTuggy Yes, the number of commenters just here on YT has grown a lot, some admitting they have recently changed, so i do see that Dale, and though I do wonder sometimes, depressingly here almost 2000 years later, trying to show what these scriptures are actually saying, the very same stuff your examples showed, seemingly no one noticed... there comes again a challenge deep within me, an excitement to proclaim truth.
Sorry i missed you in North Island last month, i had to cancel.
What ought to be more depressing is that your fake god was conquered and is so pathetic that it allowed the supposed "mumbo jumbo" of trinitarians to spread Christianity far and wide whilst groups like yours debate over scraps of theological space.
Has anyone read “Jesus’ Biological Father was Joseph: According to the New Testament” (DS WAGGONER)? Mind-bending
Matthew 1 the genealogy of Yahushua is incorrect. 14.14.14 generations from Adam to Messiah ends with Yuseph the Father of Miryam...... not Yuseph the husband of Miryam. According to KJV that would render Yahushua not to be the son of David. Because the husband didn't impregnate her.....the Ruach haQuadesh did.(HS). Folks there are fatal flaws and fraudulent content in especially the KJV......and ELYON THE MOST HIGH is doing what He said He would in last days......He expose ALL the lies of Christianity.
Its called PERSONIFICATION. the word/logos is made flesh in every firstborn son of the Father. Revelation 21:7. Everyone begotten of the Fathers incorruptible seed are his sons born of his spirit. James 1:18, i peter 1:3, 1:23.
"I said YOU are elohim and are ALL sons of the Most High". Psalm 82:6.
Christolics are the first to be condemned when the True Masiach returns as King. Im NOT referring to jesuschrist the baztard god, created by Christianolic's(christianity) ......the blue eyed red bairded white European image dating back to 1948 when one Sallman launched this publicity propaganda campaign only surpassed by Coca Cola and Disney..... in effectiveness.
The duality and inseparability of that IMAGE and the term "jesus" will remain in the dirty conscience of CHRISTIANITY until Yahushua haMasiach set foot again here.
God is triune ❤
Chapter and verse?
Sure ! One example. Matthew 3:13-17.
Father, son, holy Spirit, 3. John 14. Jesus is like the father. Hebrews chapter 1:5-10. Jesus is God.
@kronos01ful None of those verses state or imply that God is "triune." God is the God and Father of Jesus (John 20:17), Jesus is the Son of God (John 20:31).
@LoveAndLiberty02 Have you been baptized by the holy Spirit? Because scripture says You have to be born again to understand God.
How is it that Reading Hebrews chapter 1 and Jesus sending the holy Spirit you can see the Trinity? If you don't believe in the father who you pray in the name of Jesus and are guided by the Holy Spirit how are you a Christian ?
@@LoveAndLiberty02 Have you been baptized by the Holy Spirit? Because without the baptism of the Spirit you will not the able to understand God.
The scriptures are clear you need all 3 to be save. The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. You cant go to the father without the Son and without the baptism of the Spirit you are not a son of God.
Acts 19:11-12 - (NRSV): "God did extraordinary miracles THROUGH (Greek word διὰ/dia) Paul, 12 so that when the handkerchiefs aprons that had touched his skin were brought to the sick, their diseases left them, and the evil spirits came out of them."
Was Paul the source of these extraordinary miracles? Or was someone greater working through him to accomplish these miracles? It's the same with Jesus in creation.
Are you saying that God is incapable of creating something by Himself? Firstly, Jesus himself never claimed to be God. Secondly, Jesus clearly acknowledged that God created "male and female" (Matthew 19:4,6), and Paul taught that God was the Creator (Acts 17:4). (We need to understand Paul’s writings in the light of his clear statements.)
The whole argument between Trinitarianism and Unitarianism is like arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Either side can find opinions of others who support their view. But that's all they ever produce - the opinions of others. There is no external way to validate or vitiate either view. We cannot run an experiment, make an observation or conduct a text.
And this is how all Christian theology develops and evolves. It is all simply citing the opinions of others. But those opinions are either made up or based on even earlier opinions. And so on, until we get back to the original progenitor of the view, and he made it up.
This is why any honest academic has to dismiss Christian theology, it is nothing more than interpreting the views of other, earlier writers to make any case one wishes to.
And academics don’t review and use opinions of others? 🙄
Yahusha said unto her: Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Yah, and your Yah. Yochanon (John) 20:17
And this is life eternal, that they might know you the only true Yah, and Yahusha Ha'Mashiach, whom you have sent. Yochanon (John) 17:3
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Yochanon (John) 14:28
Then said Yahusha unto him: Get you hence, Satan; for it is written, You shall worship Yahuah Elohayka, and him only shall you serve. Mattithyahu (Matthew) 4:10
And Yahusha said unto him: Why do you call me good? There is none good but one, that is, Elohiym. Marqus (Mark) 10:18
Christolics are the first to be condemned when the True Masiach returns as King. Im NOT referring to jesuschrist the baztard god, created by Christianolic's(christianity) ......the blue eyed red bairded white European image dating back to 1948 when one Sallman launched this publicity propaganda campaign only surpassed by Coca Cola and Disney..... in effectiveness.
The duality and inseparability of that IMAGE and the term "jesus" will remain in the dirty conscience of CHRISTIANITY until Yahushua haMasiach set foot again here.
The Gethsemane scene that Dr. Tuggy offers as a refutation of "Modalistic Monarchianism" actually refutes Dr. Tuggy's argument...
"Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak." (Matthew 26:41)
A single person, according to the spirit, can be willing to obey, while that same person, according to the flesh, can simultaneously be willing to disobey. One person, with two simultaneous and contrary wills.
Furthermore, an omnipotent and omnipresent Father would certainly be capable of being in two "places" at the same "time" - one in heaven, where he has an eternal will, and one in Gethsemane, in true human form, where he has a contrary will.
Dr. Tuggy's argument against "Modalistic Monarchianism" falls flat.
One single person can be internally conflicted, yes, but I would certainly look askance at person in which their flesh prays to their spirit using the differing pronouns "I" and "you". The prayer of that kind of person would reasonably be the prayer of someone with multiple personality disorder. It should give us pause that this construct of God would be comparable to a person with a concerning disorder.
It would be utter confusion of what "Father" and "Son" mean to analogize "Father" to the spirit of a person and "Son" to the flesh of that same one person, not to mention that we don't find that analogy in scripture to help us understand.
Daniel 7:13
as my vision continued that night, I saw someone like a son of man[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient One and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, honor, and sovereignty over all the nations of the world, so that people of every race and nation and language would obey him. His rule is eternal-it will never end. His kingdom will never be destroyed.
Sounds like subordination to me. Notice the lack of a third person also.
Bless you ✝️
If Christ had “all power and authority” by nature (being supposedly consubstantial with the Father), then there is no sense in saying he was given what he would’ve already possessed
sounds like a prophecy of future events to me of something in Daniels future, so it is no proof of this being the modus operandi of that era in OT. i.e. it looks forward to when that "son of man" (means a human descendant of the flower of all mankind, Eve, [the "seed of the woman Gen3:15] ) who at being raised after being dead three days and nights in a grave, after his crucifixion, comes before the one God, and is "given power and authority in all heaven and earth." Like Jesus tells his disciples. (like Joseph was given all power and authority in egypt, by pharaoh, even though Joe wasnt an egyptian, but was a prisoner slave on death row)
Isaiah 51:5-9 arm is judge nations, (jesus Matthew 25:31-32 ) ...
arm of rahab is the commander of hosts Joshuah 5:15 & 6:2 take off your sandals said the angel of the lord - is in
Exodus :-3:2-5 burning bush, take of your sandals...
Acts 7:35-8 the angel of the lord , is "i will raise a prophet" Deut.
Judges 13:21- angel of the lord spoke went into a FLAME of burnt offereing and they said they had spoken to god
Daniel 3:17 If this be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the BURNING fiery furnace
24 Then King Nebuchadnezzar was astonished and rose up in haste. He declared to his counselors, “Did we not cast three men bound into the fire?” They answered and said to the king, “True, O king.” 25 He answered and said, “But I see four men unbound, walking in the midst of the FIRE, and they are not hurt; and the appearance of the fourth is like a SON OF THE GOD.”
God called FIRE from God in heaven Geneus 19:24.
For the Lord your God is a consuming FIRE, a jealous God” (Deuteronomy 4:23-24)
And Elijah answered and said unto them, If I be a man of God, let FIRE come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And the fire of God came down from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty. 2:kings 1:12
The arm of god = comnander = angel of the lord is but not god.
god delivers by the son of god
There is more to say but this a good summary, the angel of the lord is distinct and is God . the son of god is distinct and is God
Proverbs 30:4 (angel of the lord = son of god)
👆🏿
Who has gone up to heaven and come down?
Whose hands have gathered up the WIND?
Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is his name, and what is the name of his son?
Surely you know!
wind is ruach it is both wind and/or spirit
wrapped is tsarar, to bound , enemies. synonym to enimity (ebah) in genesis 3:15
waters is mayim, sea leviathon
Wind and water creation Genesis 1:2
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hagiostech.greekinterlinearbible
I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say, 'My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please
Isaiah 46:9-10
the end
@@mario.migneault Mario you have made a lot of statements which are confusing. Some make no sense in english.
I will respond to you saying "the angel of the lord is God."
This is totally misunderstood.
In greek "angelos" which is translated "angel" means messenger.
So we read "the messenger of the lord." and the word "of" is the connection to the one who sent that messenger.
The "Lord" in this case in greek is Kurios and in Hebrew is Adonai, which both mean the Lord of Israel. YHWH. The God most high.
So here we find this is "the messenger of YHWH." If its the messenger OF YHWH, then obviously its not YHWH eh?
So you stating that it IS Yhwh, is simply wrong by language definition. in hebrew, greek and english.
The Father is before all Yeshua is before creation..... And unto the the church of the Laodiceans write, these things says the Amen the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the Creation of God Revelations 3: 14.... In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth and the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters, and God said let there be LIGHT... Genesis 1...1,2 3.... i came forth from the Father and have come into the world, I leave the world and go to the Father... John 16: 28..... So shall My Word that goes out of my mouth, it shall not return to Me void but it shall accomplish that which i please, and shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.... Isaiah 55: 11.... And Yeshua said to her, touch Me not for i have not yet ascended to My Father , but go and tell My brethren and say to them, i ascend to my Father and to your Father, and to My God and your God.... John 20: 17... And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory the glory as of the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth..... John 1: 14.... Yeshua was before anything other then His Father GOD!
Tuggy's a heretic
Jesus taught that only the Father is the true God, and that he (Jesus) was God's commissioned Son. Was Jesus a heretic?
Dale Tuggy is just presenting the sources what were the majority Christian believes in that time.
You should defend the Holy Scriptures, and NOT your church Doktrin - IF you really care about your own salvation. God bless. 🕎
@h.sumantri1860 Dale Tuggy is a heretic according to the Scriptures.
Christolics are the first to be condemned when the True Masiach returns as King. Im NOT referring to jesuschrist the baztard god, created by Christianolic's(christianity) ......the blue eyed red bairded white European image dating back to 1948 when one Sallman launched this publicity propaganda campaign only surpassed by Coca Cola and Disney..... in effectiveness.
The duality and inseparability of that IMAGE and the term "jesus" will remain in the dirty conscience of CHRISTIANITY until Yahushua haMasiach set foot again here.
Yahusha said unto her: Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Yah, and your Yah. Yochanon (John) 20:17
And this is life eternal, that they might know you the only true Yah, and Yahusha Ha'Mashiach, whom you have sent. Yochanon (John) 17:3
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Yochanon (John) 14:28
Then said Yahusha unto him: Get you hence, Satan; for it is written, You shall worship Yahuah Elohayka, and him only shall you serve. Mattithyahu (Matthew) 4:10
And Yahusha said unto him: Why do you call me good? There is none good but one, that is, Elohiym. Marqus (Mark) 10:18