What Happens to Awareness after Death?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- A discussion exploring Awareness after death and the notion of reincarnation.
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this deserves a 'woah, dude'
the truth is Falun Dafa, not this guy.
Fascinating. The more I know - the more I know I don't know!
you know it all ;-)
Now, that is true knowledge!😘
@Meso Phyl Exactly. I said very much the same thing in one of my comments. Word salad or not, RS's pointification is to me essentially misleading because he is so occupied with beliefs, which is not really the point of spiritual inquiry. Perhaps I should add that his word salad is also essentially flawed. Thanks for your clear remark!
Lol
Yep, and you find that most people like to make statements as factual like somehow they know the answers to the big questions, whenever I read these comments I automatically disregard them
This is my 4th or 5th video.. I am on a roll.. this being what I need so badly to hear and experience.. I 'accidentally' came across a video somewhere and I feel joy and resolve as I listen.. There are no accidents :)
I manifested a thought some time ago, that turned out as a spiritual proverb.
"Coincidence is just a concept for that which remains beyond human cognition"
-It means that whatever human can't measure and compute, is labeled as 'coincidence'. Weighing a rock, measuring weather conditions, crafting precise apparatus and knowing theory of physics among other capabilities, a human can catapult a rock fairly accurately hundreds of meters; even kilometers perhaps. Currently we do that with rockets in space. This is not considered coincidence.
Reversing the logic, it is concievable that with infinite measurement and infinite calculation, we could easily tell by the pressure of the air, the elasticity of the ground, the inconsistency of the metal alloy of the coin and the muscular contractions of the hand what kind of trajectory the flipped coin will take and thus render it of randomness. But as we currently do not hold such precision of measurement combined with alike computational power let alone have those in real time, we speak of coincidence. That we are not capable of it, doesn't mean it would not happen coherently and perfectly inevitably.
Truly, be well.
Check out Matt Khan. He will blow your mind!!! 😳
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You left this comment four years ago, so I hope you're still reading your replies. I feel the exact same. As a spiritual seeker, I've come across Rupert Spira's name many times, but never taken the time to look further. I have done just that today, after many years, and what he teaches makes so damned much sense. I've just signed up for his newsletter on his website.
Shunyamurti - Phil Langdon and Rupert Spira -- my guides. Peace
The whirlpool and the stream reminds me of what Thich Nhat Hanh said about the ocean and waves. Sometimes we manifest as a wave, but we are always the ocean.
Mind is consciousness which has put on limitations. You are originally unlimited and perfect. Later you take on limitations and become the mind. Ramana Maharshi
Con sciousness.
Could it be... consciousness becomes entangled with mind & duality for the experiential process? We hope it will be a "constructive" quantum entanglement of spirit within matter.
Not you, you don't exist per se, when Joe Blogs dies there is no longer a Joe Blogs, one could say the 'you' that you think you are is just being used as a throw away article, a little joke so to speak.
@@jackstubbington387 Eckhart says, Ramana says, Nisargadatta says, Jesus said,
What happens? Nobody knows but some think they do, take your pick.
Such clarity with the whirlpool example!! Thank you Rupert!
But when a person dies, is he aware of all ? Does his knowledge, memories, his PERSONALITY survives after death, or kind of an energy called consciousness melds with the great pool of consciousness and we don´t perceive us as beings, with gathered knowledge, memories, etc ? What we learn, our memories survive after death ? Do we perceive ourselves as beings ?
Why and how would a whirlpool (Locality of consciousness) disperse and when a new one occurs retain any of the dispositions of the previous.? Not very likely.
@@slumgullianpass One doesn't make money as a 'spiritual teacher' by getting specific lol... Rupert needs to keep it vague to make it seem believable.
For a much greater teacher try Falun Dafa.
He never uses the word soul, why? This teacher gives no explanation as to why we are on earth, why all the suffering and where are we headed, the wonderful practice Falun Dafa does.
like the air in the balloon, when the balloon blast or its mouth opened the air will mix with the atmosphere. the air doesn't die.where as the balloon will
That reminds me of an analogy in which a cup full of water is poured into the ocean. The cup represents our body, the water represents our soul, and the ocean represents God. Just because the water from the cup merges with the ocean doesn't mean that the water from the cup ceases to exist.
The analogy is only correct, when you assume that the balloon is also just made up out of air. Once the balloon diffuses itself into the surrounding air, nothing is added and nothing will get lost. The separate self that is afraid of non-existence is only a pattern of thoughts surrounding the thought of I AM. 😘
@@VannessaVA Yes but i identify myself with the shape of the water in the cup, not with the water. Once the water mixes with the ocean my shape is lost.
...along with your Consciousness. Let me give you a clue. We don't survive death.
@@VannessaVA wishdul thinking. Consciousness is an emergent property of a complex system evolving over millions of years. Integrated Information Theory. You. Me, we don't survive death
Sorry
Thank you, .
Love the analogy of the whirlpool.
"This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality, this precious moment, remember, we are eternal all this pain is an illusion."
We in this together , we shall make the humanity better
Pain is our salvation, we fell here from Heaven and have to redeem ourselves through suffering to return home to Heaven. Falun Dafa
Put your big toe out and I will hit it with a hammer and then ask you about this illusion theory of yours. Life hurts is meant to. Suffering is to clean our soul of sin so that we may re-enter Heaven, where we were born. We need a great teacher, Falun Dafa, that's all folks.
Maynard knows more than all these gurus.
Of course so much of the discomfort with this question stems from the ego wanting to preserve itself at all costs. Mainly it is the ego which asks the question of what comes after death. But it is the ego which will never ever be able to understand death.
But when a person dies, is he aware of all ? Does his knowledge, memories, his PERSONALITY survives after death, or kind of an energy called consciousness melds with the great pool of consciousness and we don´t perceive us as beings, with gathered knowledge, memories, etc ? What we learn, our memories survive after death ? Do we perceive ourselves as beings ?
@@DihelsonMendonca Is he really aware before death? Is it such a difference? To the ego, this is an infinitely unsatisfying answer, as it always will be. "A lot of good it does me!" to meld with the cosmic ocean of consciousness. As things get more unmasked, the question of surviving death is just not compelling or interesting anymore strangely enough. It's a moot point.
@@sdfsdgsdfsdf23423423 so there is no hell and heaven and no god ???
@@КонстантинКругляков-г1у this is heaven and hell and you are god as am I and everything else. An infinite eternal now becoming finite seperate and creating duality hence nirvana or if in the ego to deeply ones version of hell.
Basically we go back to be like babies with that curiosity and seeing the world with fresh eyes but in an adult awareness. And total spiritual awareness
The analogy of the stream and the whirlpool is brilliant! Makes it so clear how we are part of one consciousness. Rupert is quickly becoming my go to for knowledge ❤️
It's just word salad
We are not part of one consciousness, we are all unique spiritual beings....................Falun Dafa
@@jeffforsythe9514we are all part of the same ocean...individuated as separate waves....
@@bingowings113 No two things are the same. We are all unique divine souls , hopefully trying to return home, which is Heaven.............................Falun Dafa
@@jeffforsythe9514 that's the brilliance of it..of course no 2 things are the same...what would be the point of that. God is knowing its 'inperfection' through the experiences of everything...we are here for the contrast...
Bro how weird is sleep? We have to turn off for a while to remain sane...
Profound Comment
Not really turning off, your brain is actually more active in sleep...I agree though it is very fascinating
Remember how, when we were children, we never wanted to go to bed. We learn nothing in bed, our soul needs to be awake and is unique and immortal...............falundafa
I see a problem. How is deep sleep related to pure consciousness? What Rupert says cannot be the complete explanation. At 2:40 he says "that is why in deep sleep we don't know the world because consciousness is totally defocused it is let go of all its association with the mind and the body it's gone back to itself and it is infinite consciousness knowing its own". However, there must be some qualitative difference between infinite awareness during deep sleep - which is blank, featureless, and not self-aware - and the infinite awareness after death (if we are to believe there is pure permanent awareness). Maybe deep sleep becomes self-aware if our practice of nonduality is perfected?
I've watched a few of Rupert Spira's videos over the last few days after him popping into my UA-cam feed last week.
While some of the material he espouses and preaches is the repetition of the obvious, shared in other forms of Eastern thought and practice, there are also uncomfortable crumbs that litter the bed of his talks which I find irritating.
Firstly, the intense, almost contrived and forced calmness of his delivery. There is precious little variety of inflection in what is said; it is more like an hypnotic drone. Some of what he says is comprehensible, enjoyable and familiar, but the gentle patter in which it resides comes through to me more often like self-satisfied condescension than helpful guidance or informed understanding.
Secondly, the repetition around the body merely being a collection of sensations and feelings seems desperately disingenuous, when objective reality suggests otherwise, i.e. we can observe the effect should we take a machete to our own arm, because life-blood will be merrily spurting out before us. When someone else's body dies, the matter is right there in front of us, beginning to rot and dissolve. Just because the Ghost in the Machine has retreated and is no longer aware of its vehicle, the vehicle itself remains behind. If it were just a collection of sensations and feelings, what's with the residual meat?
Ultimately, each of us will only truly discover what happens when our own, personal 'collection of sensations and feelings' conks out. Until such time, every other explanation by guru, philosophy or mainstream religion is merely a self-interested footnote in the grand mythologies of mankind.
Or so it seems to me...
:41 "The body is an image in the finite mind, the finite mind is a localization(or contraction) of infinite consciousness.....
The body is flesh and the mind, consciousness, is the soul, unique and immortal...........falun dafa
I reached this conclusion myself after many many years of research and have been saying this to all who will listen. Including my late surgeon father who agreed it made perfect sense. The mind is like a limiter and receptor of infinite consciousness in limited form - (i.e., the brain is not a transmitter of consciousness, as materialist science believes) ; when one dies one's consciousness returns to infinite eternity from whence it came. I am very blessed to hear this great explanation!!!
Thanks. Do you have more references irt this subject. I found this explanation very thoughtful and want to know more. I want to change my perception and personality in this world. Thanks
We are all projectors. I project you and the Universe believing this is all real. You're doing the same, apparently. Projector you and projector me are switched off and instantly become that which everyone likes to call God. This thing called God is pure knowledge which is not cumulative. We accumulate knowledge, like we're doing now as I pen this and you read the same. If God is not cumulative knowledge, then it is also not of cumulative Time, and thus timeless. In the same manner, it is not of a non polar nature. Thus, it does not judge, reward or punish. That is the realm of religion which the ignorant mistake for this thing we call God. We do not die. We were never born. Were is meaningless
If it returns to infinite eternity what benefit is that? It still means we’re going to know nothing, unless you’re hinting at
a supernatural afterlife.
@@RickyisSwan It’s not a “supernatural” afterlife. It’s a “natural” afterlife. And more accurately “after earth life”. For life takes on different frequencies or dimensions. That’s why one NDE book on the subject is called Life After Life. That expanded non physical but conscious state to which we return is part of nature. And there is still an identifiable “you” there but with higher awareness/consciousness/frequency than in the physical earthly “life”.
@@johnnymomascaro Quite a number of people who experienced NDE’s spoke of seeing Jesus. Interesting how that is not the case about NDE’s in countries where a different religion is prominent.
The vast majority of medical scientists/neurosurgeons don’t agree with any form of life after death. So I will believe tens of thousands of people who have spent their entire adult lives studying the brain/body etc.
This is as good as it gets!
Rupert is my bro 😎
Your true nature is empty, like space.
When the universe is destroyed,
it will not be destroyed. ^^
"Infinite consciousness must seem to cease being infinite, in order to experience the finite mind" ~ I have a problem with this line of thought from Rupert
why ?
Consciousness is, simply put, the soul, which is not made of cells but our body, which is made of cells decays and dies but our soul reincarnates, Falun Dafa.
The most phenomenal experience in our universe is the realization that other people have minds like ours that we can share thoughts and experiences with. It is absolutely remarkable because we don't even understand our own minds! If we did, we wouldn't be having these discussions about infinite minds, and finite minds, and reincarnation and so on. Our mind is designed to understand how everything around us works. But it cannot understand consciousness / awareness as an experience, only as a concept. So on and on and around and around we go playing word games. What you think of as physical or material is ultimately just energy. Same for mental. No magic dividing line. Rationalization is not a protection against suffering. When a loved one dies, you will suffer, regardless of whether you think consciousness is infinite or not.
Love is all
@Jesus Bermudez I’m referring to sadness and grief at the loss of a close relative or friend - wife, child, parent, close friend - not psychological suffering from e.g. thinking you are better or worse than others. Even so, you cannot “protect” yourself from that either, you must face emotional reactions and understand them in order not to be ultimately overwhelmed by them.
@Jesus Bermudez Do you protect yourself from love? If so, you are missing the part of life that makes everything else worthwhile.
I know that first of all our thoughts appear to our soul and the soul then orders the brain to move the body. When the body decays and dies, the soul remains because it is not made of cells.
Astonishing what? We are all lost souls who have lost our moral compass. We are here to seek the Divine, not to be fun seekers. Life hurts. Falun Dafa
Also, I think that the local consciousness would not necessarily disperse but could remain intact but in a higher form than the body but form nonetheless e.g. a glorified body where the pure awesomeness that decided to go through all the trouble of knowing itself wouldn’t have to throw away all the knowledge gained but could enjoy it (me/you) forever, which sounds like heaven to me! 😇
Consciousness is our soul which exists inside our body, it is many times smaller than a cell, but has many times the energy of an atom. When our cells decay and the body dies, the soul is still there and reincarnates, that's all folks.
Knowledge and wisdom are two different things. Wisdom is acquired through suffering and that is why we are here, to seek the Divine, not be fun seekers, and to return home to Heaven, Falun Dafa.
Falun Dafa
He never uses the word soul, why? This teacher gives no explanation as to why we are on earth, why all the suffering and where are we headed, the wonderful practice Falun Dafa does.
I wonder if he has ever taken a high dose of mushrooms. This sounds like what happens with an ego death.
"death of body " changes nothing. The apparent "physical body" changes vibration and is no longer visible to senses. It is not in contradiction with the non-dual message.
I have seen Souls of those who have passed over. They are sentient. I have also seen ghosts that may not be. I have been separate from Brain and body when very ill with a brain bleed. I could see, hear and think. Thinking was just like talking. I was in my orb state. 20 feet possibly between my body and brain and a wall and window and door between my body and brain and my self in the corridor.
You are the soul, and the body is just flesh.......falun dafa
This is the first time I truly have quelled the fear of the end of my bodily existence. Thank-you, Rupert.
Jesus that's not true, believe me.
You are right. Don't believe me, look it yourself. But I was simply meaning, don't think everyone is fearing death just because you fear it, the great majority of people fear it. There are indeed people who do not fear death at all, and not because the "believe" it. It is because they experienced something beyond.
With love, I tell you that with that attitude "give me proof", you won't discover anything in the spiritual path.
Give me proof of the love you have for your mum/son/wife...You can't.
You can trust your brothers that are more aware until you see it yourself....or you can decide not to trust and just live in fear. Your choice!
By the way, you are talking about something slightly different when you say about running away from a danger etc etc. That's something natural, we are animals and while we are embodied we need to protect our body here to carry on our experience.
I cannot give you evidence, I can tell you you don't need evidence once you see it yourself.
Now if you could only quell your desire to keep playing in the mud and get on a path back to Heaven, from where you fell, this planet is not fun, it is a very perilous place. Falun Dafa
I would like to know if Rupert Spira believes or knows if memories from a finite consciousness can be carried (remembered) when it goes back to infinite consciousness ("dies") and then it takes on new finite consciousness ("new identity" or new body), another words, does Rupert Spira believe in past live memories or is it possible to have them?
The consciousness of memory continues... Perhaps pure consciousness is aware of it without being attached to it. When a new finite form is taken on it is subtly/ unconsciously connected by/to it. Like water seeking its own level -
as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi states each of us is a carrier of our causes and effects.
@@peterscherba4138 After my loved one passed away I was in deep depressive mode, and I used to see this ball of energy in the house move passed me, at some speed. I did wonder if this ball of energy was my loved one.. I wondered if this energy remembered me as the Son, and it new who it was before it became this energy after death? I used to tell people but they said O was mad, insane and I should go see someone. But I saw and felt this energy many times after the loved one passed away. it was like a glowing ball of light. I stopped talking about it to people as they said I was nuts. I Thought bollocks, I know what I have seen. I had a lot of depression, but I know what I saw. this energy or what ever it was, had intelligence. like it understood me when I used to talk to it. I havent seen it for years since, once I starting moving forward new job etc, but I still feel the pain. I wonder were this energy went to??
I think memories are only limited to body
I find Rupert too intellectual and difficult to follow,however I am surprised to find an Advaita teacher agreeing that reincarnation is possible,most teachers don't.
I believe in it because of a very powerful recurring dream I used to have when I was about 5-6, it was about how I died in my last life.
I found myself in an aircraft cockpit spinning to earth out of control,it was even with a loud screaming propellor engine noise,I could see the fields with trees and hedges spinning around in full colour,as I got closer,I became more and more terrified,because I couldn't get out,as I neared the earth,I braced myself for the impact,knowing it was my last few seconds,the aircraft hit the earth with terrible sickening loud thud and I used to wake up screaming ,drenched in sweat with a horrible taste in my mouth, mum used to rush in and calm me down. It recurred every now and then,but gradually as I got older it never returned, thank God.
This was in about 1950-51 and I still remember it vividly to this day.I hadn't yet been to a film show, I was too young so I couldn't have rememberd it from a movie,anyway I doubt if the technology was available then to depict a cockpits eye view in full colour and sound in such detail.
I was born in Jan 1945 just before the WW2 ended,so if it was a true death experience I must have been a pilot,I have great respect for all those boys that died horrible deaths so we could live in freedom,I claim not to be a hero,but I am fascinated in WW2 fighter aircraft but have never flown,I'm still afraid of flying,the memory of those nightmares is too strong.
I have seen other reincarnation stories on TV in which young children can remember their passing in the last life,with convincing evidence like marks on the body.
I am 70 now and have suffered with crippling arthritis for most of my life,I wonder if this is caused by the memory of that crash somehow affecting this body.
As compensation I have had Awakening experiences from about 8 years,but its not established ,I feel contented most of the time and live a very simple life.
*****
You are mistaken John. Advaita does not deny reincarnation at all. In fact it avers that if you do not attain to the Advaitic knowledge and liberation then you will be condemned to be reborn in the ignorance. Avoidance of rebirth into the ignorant mind-body complex is the ultimate aim of Advaitic effort and so it cannot deny rebirth which is the very thing it tries to end forever.
Peace !
Mohaneesh Honavar I did say I believed in it,teachers like Tony Parsons deny it.
than ask yourself who is the one that knows you are not established!? enquiry helps truly.
Please clarify what you mean by established and who is it that enquires? and either there is reincarnation or not,I had vivid recurring dreams when very small of how I passed in the previous life,plus modern case histories back up my experience,so before enlightenment ,one does have to go through rebirth, at the same time there is no one to be enlightened.Carla Sun
You must find who are you? Very seriously and you will find you are not the body, thoughts...and then who you are? Slowly slowly you may find that you are not your thoughts, memories sensation, filings....why? Because all this are percived by you,and that you is unchanged deep in your being. All what is seen or percieve is objectified therefore is not you. This is inquiry. I watch and clarified myself at mooji.TV or at mooji on you tube. He also has satsang for free Sundays and everyone in the world can watch online in direct. He is the one that helps me even if I personally never met him. I also watch ramesh balsecar on you tube I like him too. He is
very clear and approachable but he is no longer alive.
I am invisible. This means that I get into the movies for free but the downside is that people keep sitting on top of me.
Anything ANYONE says about what happens after death is nothing but speculation.
He seems to delight in explaining concepts, which on the one hand is very satisfying for most people, but on the other hand it's easy for the mind to believe without actually Knowing. One question I have: does Rupert ever say "I don't know"? It would be refreshing to hear him say that, rather than seemingly having a concept or interpretation for everything.
Actually he uses the same metaphors for ALL of his answers, so there is no need for him to ever say I do not know!!
He doesn't show knowledge or wisdom in my opinion but his followers get mesmerized by his answers somehow. He is a good example of how people can find their audience.
I heard him say he didn't know when someone asked why some die young.
Unanswerable question
only through experience
I promise i have probably more experience than most people you might ever meet, gustav is 100% right and rupert is 100% wrong.
It IS unanswerable, anything else is just a theory
agreed. that's why taoists say allot - ''don't know''. death is like big box with animal noises. we can calculate and give opinions what makes these noises but nobody who isn't dead can't give true awnser. i understand nondual philosophy tries to get idea of life but they still are too attatched to idea they are right without doubt and it makes them unobjective. any philosophy can be disproven. life is a mystery not some guy who says how it is. ANY opinion is still an opinion not reality. the same problem have all religions and individuals nobody is free from it. Opinions and only experienceable realities not the same thing. it may well be that they describe one side but they can't still see other nuances. i'd be very careful to install a philosophy into myself as full truth that i'd say to everyone who tries to understand life. who has reach certain points they know there is allot that falls short with words and explaining. if life is dream like any guy trying to put dream in a box with some fabricated logic is doing empty job. that i say to all nonduality teachers and it's fanboys. just something to think
Masterful explanation. Thank you, dear Rupert, for sharing these great insights. 🙏🏿
If you need to believe this, be my guest, but it’s merely conceptual projection. Yes, the body is an appearance in the mind, buts it is an appearance that depends on causes and conditions. Regarding the idea that awareness remains after those conditions dissipate is completely theoretical. It’s basically the “one big mind” theory. Nothing new here.
The localizing and relaxing, or birth and death, are happening every single moment. Consciousness remains, but the body mind flickers in and out so fast we hardly notice. When we begin to introduce gaps into our daily experience via meditation or psychedelics or what have you, we can “observe” this switch of being and non-being happening; the rising and falling of the wave of locality, so to speak.
After watching many videos on NDEs and listening to different professionals state their opinions, I feel a sense of obligation to finally share my experience, which, with the help of Hubble, has definitely been verified...
My NDE happened over 47 years ago when I was struck by lightning while talking on the telephone in my living room. According to several doctors at the hospital, it was a miracle that I was not physically damaged in any way. When I was able to talk, I kept telling them about the beautiful light and the magnificent journey that I'd taken through the stars etc, to meet it, but none could explain where I'd been. It was my home doctor who later suggested that I had possibly been momentarily dead. I described the unforgettable Light to many people in the years that followed - some seemed to understand but most thought it was probably just an illusion.
During the 80s and 90s, a lot of doctors who made comments on NDEs described them as something that was programmed within the mind to take place during death, in order to help us deal with the dying process. This came as a big disappointment to me because my beautiful experience with the multi-coloured Light had taken away the fear of death and helped me move towards a path that would eventually allow me to understand much more about myself and the world/universe around me than anyone had ever taught me. I reluctantly began to accept the doctors' explanations with deep regret, until one day in 2003, I was glancing through a newspaper and came across a picture taken by Hubble of the Cone Nebula. The picture was in colour and instantly took my breath away - I trembled and my head spun. It looked exactly like the Light that I'd visited in 1970 and had been describing to people ever since - (even Today, it seems like I was there only a moment ago).
The Light was the most beautiful experience of love and security, that even after all these years nothing has compared. It felt like I'd found my way home after being lost in a scary jungle. The Light's multitude of vibrant colours all blended together in what seemed to be perfect harmony. Each of the colours seemed to be intelligent - it was as if they were alive and sending me a loving welcome. Then I was sucked backwards away just as quickly as I'd arrived. I burst back into the bubble that I'd burst out of before I'd entered space to head to the Light.
From then on, I began questioning everything that I'd been taught about God. It was as though something inside me had been switched on, exposing me of a far-distant extension of my reality and it was very scary. I was left with a huge void to fill and no knowledge of how to fill it. Motivated by an underlying driving force, I began searching for something with no idea of what it was. I went from one country to the next and to add to my dilemma, I seemed to arrive just in time for a disaster, including revolutions, typhoons and earthquakes etc. There were so many times that I could have been killed like the many others around me that were.
Then one day while I was napping in Hong Kong, I had a dream and in it, I was informed that there was, even more, chaos to confront before my destiny would take me to a country, where I would meet my best friend (a future friend that is) who would take me to the foot of a great pointed mountain. Once there I would find the truth that I needed to find. I told friends about the dream, who laughed and joked about it - I also laughed with them. Not long after the strange dream 500 hundred people were killed by landslides all around me - an apartment building a couple of doors away from mine, fell over knocking the top 5 floors off the empty building being built beneath it - there were cries of horror and the smell of rotting bodies. Unable to cope, I jumped on a plane and headed for Manila, arriving just in time for a record-breaking flood and the revolution that ended the Marcus ruling. I had to run for my life and leave all my belongings behind to get on a rescue flight back to Hong Kong.
By then I was drinking heavily and so depressed that I was even thinking of suicide. An agent was in Hong Kong looking for a replacement vocalist for an American band that was playing in a Tokyo club. Next thing I knew, I was in Japan trying my best to perform with a very wild heavy metal band (no easy task for a cabaret singer). At the club, I met someone who became the best mate that I'd ever had. He taught me to chant the words Nam-myoho-renge kyo and took me to a beautiful temple at the foot of Mount Fuji (I knew right away that it was the pointed mountain that I'd been told about in my dream). As most religious groups do, the organisation promoting the chant, claimed to be the only ones right while all the others were wrong. The chant had an amazing effect on my daily life - it was like an awakening and somehow it connected me to the beautiful Light - there were even moments while chanting, that I experienced some of the wonderment that I'd felt at the Light.
ua-cam.com/video/KfRcUpoPl7w/v-deo.html
I stuck with the organisation to learn as much as I could and then spent years trying to divide what the actual teaching was from the added politics of the organisation. I eventually left the organisation and have since depended on my own volition to sort things out. In doing so, I have studied other beliefs and discovered that some of what they teach is almost the same as what Nichiren taught (Nichiren was the first person to chant NMRK and teach it to others). The one thing that became more and more obvious to me was that the three major Laws of (Nature - Cause and Effect - Communication or oneness of past/present/future) represented by myoho-renge-kyo, represent the underlying fundamental Laws of everything, no matter what we choose to believe or not. I also gained a better understanding of the teachings of Jesus (not by what was written about his lessons by his disciple's (who all denied even knowing him when he was arrested) but by the example that he set 'between the lines'. He also taught Nature - Cause and Effect (reap what we sow) and prayer = communication. But it appears that the disciples didn't get it right, even though when they asked where the Kingdom of God was and Jesus told them that it was within their own lives, they still believed and taught others to believe that God was a man in the sky. I also got to understand that, minus all the added misconceptions, Nichiren taught many of the same things as Jesus did.
Scientists now say that our solar system was born out of a nebula - that physically everything, including ourselves, is made out of stardust and that energy never disappears or ends. Nichiren taught that our body is a small planet, which relies on Earth's environment to exist, and that our life-force is a small universe that contains 'everything' that exists, even though we are only awake to a very small part of it. Like Jesus taught that the Kingdom of God is within (which obviously must mean that's where God is also) Nichiren taught that Enlightenment (Buddhahood) is within. He also taught that there are millions of other worlds like ours with their own mountains, rivers and moons and that there are also places that are wonderful far beyond our present comprehension to conceive and understand. In the physical sense, they are scattered all over the universe - in the spiritual sense, they are all located within each of us. (one way to understand this is how TV works etc.) It doesn't matter how many TVs there are, they are all able to present the same thing if tuned in.
The one thing that confused me after seeing the pictures of Cone Nebular, taken by Hubble back in 2003, was how could I have possibly travelled that distance and back, as even at the speed of light it wouldn't have been possible. Yet, long before Hubble was even built, I accurately described the Cone nebular to so many people. It's only in the last few years that it has finally made sense to me. I went there and back within my own life-force - I travelled across the universe that each of us contains within - not physically but spiritually. I now know that NDEs are journeys we make beyond our physical/Earthly limitations, into our own unknown selves. I also believe that, by way of continuous physical rebirths, we are on a journey to within to eventually discover our true selves - reach a point where we can understand life as it truly is and awaken the wisdom to comprehend and know the real meaning of 'God...
PS: My story doesn't end here:
Over the past few years since I've been posting this brief about my NDE, many people have asked me to write a book about it and the extraordinary things that have followed, so for anyone who may be interested... my autobiography: 'Saved by the Light of the BUDDHA WITHIN' is now available at Amazon books. amzn.to/356Ia5W
ua-cam.com/video/NR5DdqjMxgA/v-deo.html
Let go, and let God - Olivia Newton-John Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Let go, and let God - Olivia Newton-John Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
www.
Consciousness is the soul, a much smaller particle than a cell, when our cells decay and our body dies, the soul enters another womb, Falun Dafa.
Always been afraid of dying and then becoming a ghost. That would be horrible, so would waking up in a literal palace with golden roads and other worldly crap. Having to live forever doing odd jobs In heaven.
"The way I appear now, I will never appear again. I am Life, and I am always changing. But still I am, always. And I can always rest within myself."
I feel like I am losing my self most days when I focus outward, its pretty scary. I feel like I Hang onto my self at all costs. because I dont know who I am with out my self, and its really scary to change. last year I have felt like I am dying literally, depression, anxety panic attacks.
@Brandon Lynch Let me ask you something: Have you tried to let yourself be nothing? To let everything be just as it is, including your own fear? To simply be the silent witness of all your experiences, both inner and outer? What happens then? Please try to investigate this. Your fear can potentially be a great source of development, if you dare to meet it directly, without resistance. If you do this, your fear will be exposed as nothing but illusion. In this moment, it can no longer reach you.
Your ego / your identity / your seperate sense of self is quite vulnerable, because it is mortal and very limited. Therefore, it has fear. This ego has no definite reality, as it exists only in your mind. You are not this ego, you are the consciousness experiencing it. You are simply the seer, the experiencer, the space in which experiences appear and disappear.
However, do not simply take this to be true. Instead, begin to investigate the possibility yourself, by witnessing your ego and your fear in the same impersonal way that you are witnessing a tree or a bird.
I hope you will feel better soon, my friend.
@@Freddd95 that was absolutely beautiful.
Our consciousness is the soul, a much smaller particle than a cell, when our cells decay and our body dies, the soul enters another womb, Falun Dafa.
Not exactly, your soul, which is immortal, does look like you, from my knowledge, rest in yourself, what does that supposed to mean?
When you die, your consciousness ceases to exist as well. And I didn’t need 12,000 words to explain that either.
I was totally with him up until 7:38 when he said:
"As the localisation disperses (ie death), its contents are still in consciousness, so there's no reason why another localisation shouldn't form that contains the elements of the previously dispersed whirlpool (localisation)". That is a huge jump to make with nothing to stand on empirically. Before that, everything he was saying is observable from a first person perspective during various meditation states (Eg: Dzogchen and others). But any assertion about what happens with consciousness beyond a living observed experience seems completely unfounded to me. I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm saying there's nothing we can know from our lived experience of consciousness which leads to this conclusion.
Hippy voodoo is strong here. Why was this recommended???? And how much did the people in the audience have to pay for this word salad.
The other night I had a dream where the point of view was on the opp side of the room. I saw my self standing there with ppl I didn't know. Ive dreamed all my life and never really noticed it before nor have I ever woke up wondering who all the other ppl were. Which is why I'm watching all these types of videos.
Forget dreams, we learn while we are awake. Consciousness is the soul, a much smaller particle that a cell, when our cells decay and our body dies, the soul enters another womb, Falun Dafa.
What a load of nonsense. Pure conjecture presented as fact. Nothing more than hypothesis and imagination.
consciousness is boundless/infinite and all there is.
Ejemmm... and how do you know that? My theory is that our consciousness dies when we do. Disprove it.
4:37 "..in order to know itself (consciousness) does not need to identify with the body.." Thank You Rupert🙏🏻
Consciousness is you, awake, a soul awake. And you have a body. That's it......................falun dafa
I suspect the person in the audience was actually wondering what happens to the sense of self when we die, will ‘I’ feel a sense of continuity as when I wake up from sleep. This may include an expanded sense of self, not sure if this was answered?
It is not the fear of the dispersion of consciousness that I fear, it's the endless localisations that sounds terrifying.
Fear allows us courage, we all need a great teacher. Plain and simple. Our body contains our soul, consciousness. Follow me so far? When our body, composed of cells, decays and falls away, death, our soul remains, smaller than any cell, yet very powerful, still there? The soul is immortal. If we have been good boys and girls, our soul is then directed to a fresh womb, the end. To learn more, Falun Dafa. Have a nice day.
Consciousness remains after the body dies. He never uses the word soul, why? This teacher gives no explanation as to why we are on earth, why all the suffering and where are we headed, the wonderful practice Falun Dafa does.
Not really sure he's correct because I was fortunate enough to have 2 out of body experiences. In one of them, I was looking down on my body separate from it. So I had consciousness that was part of something bigger and separate from my body but I was still able to recognize my body.....although my body did not look like my normal body. It was deflated like a balloon out of air. I wasn't on drugs or any kind of stimulants and I don't meditate. Both experiences occurred spontaneously.
Never heard such a clear explanation of such an abstract yet beautiful concept!! Thanks Rupert!!
Bro! You are saying him Rupert like he is your cousin. If someone from india been telling same thing you will have 30 days fasting with some veggie food and mantra. Let’s just simply bow down 🙇
@@spsingh5857 I am always willing to accept explanations from anyone if put in a simple ways; that is all i am saying here- have listened to some great saints of India too- Om shanthi
He is just another wordsmith, if you are looking for a great spiritual practice, Falun Dafa.
read your vedic books , he speaks from vedic knowledge
@@NylonStrings83 falundafa
If you know that you are dead, you are not dead, same as if you don't know that you are dead, you are not dead.
A thoroughly good explanation of what consciousness is and how it operates. It seems to make perfect logical sense.
How does he know this is how it all works?
Is it all theory, or has he some practical knowledge? I have no reason to doubt what he says, just looking for more info’ as I don’t know who this man is. Sorry for my ignorance, but I live by the rule that there are no dumb questions just questions.
Why is this guy being asked what happens when you die? He has no idea what happens. No one does.
An absolutely INCREDIBLE video that I will be listening to over and over! Thank you so much for this understanding dear Rupert! MUCH appreciated!!! :)
But this teacher gives no explanation as to why we are on earth, why all the suffering and where are we headed, the wonderful practice Falun Dafa does.
Does or seems to give?
What he said is very misleading. I used to be into nondual teachings in the 1980s. Eventually I found that not everything such teachings say are true, and that nondual gurus aren't beyond being wrong. Once I overcame my emotional attachment to nondual teachings, I was able to find through various spiritual experiences that each of us has an eternal soul, and that uniqueness is not opposed to Oneness. We are one and many at the same time. The awareness and mind aspects of being are both intrinsic parts of who we are. They cannot be separated from each other. We can use our mind in a way where it seems as if it doesn't have anything to do with us, and as if we do not exist as a unique self, but we delude ourselves when we do this. In order for two people/beings to share love and oneness with each other in a way that is substantial, these two people need to exist in a way that is substantial.
A wonderful future awaits us when we rejoin the world of spirit. Even when we rejoin source, we don't disintegrate into nothing. The existence on our mind aspect of being, isn't dependent upon a biological brain.
It is important to understand that it is possible for something to seem logical, even though it isn't based on what is true. Therefore, take care when you consider nondual logic. An idea of "Self" doesn't make it seem as if we are separate from others, self-centered viewpoints do so.
Very nice point of view, but explained in a so limited paragraph. I would like to elaborate more on this.
@@MyGreenpotato see my response above for some thoughts . Not saying I agree with this poster but I definitely see something "off" here . . .peace be with you.
So what does the brain do then? Just control your arms and legs?
After all ‘spiritual experiences’ have ended, as all experiences must, who is this “I” that had them? And if I have ‘an eternal soul’ who is this “I” that possesses it ?
@@alwaysfaithfulalwaysforwar9400 Actually, I went through a period of my life where I did accept the belief that when you die nothing exists, but then numerous spiritual experiences told me differently. Some of the things I experienced were quite certain. Plus, on some occasions a spirit being let me know about information I didn't know about, and I was able to verify that information later. I also had out of body experiences that provided information I could verify later. I also found that we can receive spirit messages through our dreams, so it is good to pay attention to them, just in case some spirit being is trying to tell us something. I recommend looking into NDEs in a thorough way. Try to see things from the perspective the NDEr has when he or she has such an experience. Here is a good collection of NDEs. www.nderf.org/Archives/exceptional.html We are one and many at the same time.
P.S. I forgot that I wrote this post, a recent email let me know there is a response, so I apologize for not responding sooner. Whatever the case, perhaps we'll all find out some day whether or not we continue to exist after our bodies die.
The whirlpool analogy really hit home to me. Thank you...
You are your primordial soul which has never learned why you are here on this plant, bad teachers encouraging you to just play in the mud instead of seeking the Divine. Falun Dafa
Yes fascinating play with words. But i don't buy it whole cloth. Some of what he says rings true. But other stuff doesn't. Sounds like he's trying to convince himself with simple repetition.
After watching many videos on NDEs and listening to different professionals state their opinions, I feel a sense of obligation to finally share my experience, which, with the help of Hubble, has definitely been verified...
My NDE happened over 47 years ago when I was struck by lightning while talking on the telephone in my living room. According to several doctors at the hospital, it was a miracle that I was not physically damaged in any way. When I was able to talk, I kept telling them about the beautiful light and the magnificent journey that I'd taken through the stars etc, to meet it, but none could explain where I'd been. It was my home doctor who later suggested that I had possibly been momentarily dead. I described the unforgettable Light to many people in the years that followed - some seemed to understand but most thought it was probably just an illusion.
During the 80s and 90s, a lot of doctors who made comments on NDEs described them as something that was programmed within the mind to take place during death, in order to help us deal with the dying process. This came as a big disappointment to me because my beautiful experience with the multi-coloured Light had taken away the fear of death and helped me move towards a path that would eventually allow me to understand much more about myself and the world/universe around me than anyone had ever taught me. I reluctantly began to accept the doctors' explanations with deep regret, until one day in 2003, I was glancing through a newspaper and came across a picture taken by Hubble of the Cone Nebula. The picture was in colour and instantly took my breath away - I trembled and my head spun. It looked exactly like the Light that I'd visited in 1970 and had been describing to people ever since - (even Today, it seems like I was there only a moment ago).
The Light was the most beautiful experience of love and security, that even after all these years nothing has compared. It felt like I'd found my way home after being lost in a scary jungle. The Light's multitude of vibrant colours all blended together in what seemed to be perfect harmony. Each of the colours seemed to be intelligent - it was as if they were alive and sending me a loving welcome. Then I was sucked backwards away just as quickly as I'd arrived. I burst back into the bubble that I'd burst out of before I'd entered space to head to the Light.
From then on, I began questioning everything that I'd been taught about God. It was as though something inside me had been switched on, exposing me of a far-distant extension of my reality and it was very scary. I was left with a huge void to fill and no knowledge of how to fill it. Motivated by an underlying driving force, I began searching for something with no idea of what it was. I went from one country to the next and to add to my dilemma, I seemed to arrive just in time for a disaster, including revolutions, typhoons and earthquakes etc. There were so many times that I could have been killed like the many others around me that were.
Then one day while I was napping in Hong Kong, I had a dream and in it, I was informed that there was, even more, chaos to confront before my destiny would take me to a country, where I would meet my best friend (a future friend that is) who would take me to the foot of a great pointed mountain. Once there I would find the truth that I needed to find. I told friends about the dream, who laughed and joked about it - I also laughed with them. Not long after the strange dream 500 hundred people were killed by landslides all around me - an apartment building a couple of doors away from mine, fell over knocking the top 5 floors off the empty building being built beneath it - there were cries of horror and the smell of rotting bodies. Unable to cope, I jumped on a plane and headed for Manila, arriving just in time for a record-breaking flood and the revolution that ended the Marcus ruling. I had to run for my life and leave all my belongings behind to get on a rescue flight back to Hong Kong.
By then I was drinking heavily and so depressed that I was even thinking of suicide. An agent was in Hong Kong looking for a replacement vocalist for an American band that was playing in a Tokyo club. Next thing I knew, I was in Japan trying my best to perform with a very wild heavy metal band (no easy task for a cabaret singer). At the club, I met someone who became the best mate that I'd ever had. He taught me to chant the words Nam-myoho-renge kyo and took me to a beautiful temple at the foot of Mount Fuji (I knew right away that it was the pointed mountain that I'd been told about in my dream). As most religious groups do, the organisation promoting the chant, claimed to be the only ones right while all the others were wrong. The chant had an amazing effect on my daily life - it was like an awakening and somehow it connected me to the beautiful Light - there were even moments while chanting, that I experienced some of the wonderment that I'd felt at the Light.
ua-cam.com/video/KfRcUpoPl7w/v-deo.html
I stuck with the organisation to learn as much as I could and then spent years trying to divide what the actual teaching was from the added politics of the organisation. I eventually left the organisation and have since depended on my own volition to sort things out. In doing so, I have studied other beliefs and discovered that some of what they teach is almost the same as what Nichiren taught (Nichiren was the first person to chant NMRK and teach it to others). The one thing that became more and more obvious to me was that the three major Laws of (Nature - Cause and Effect - Communication or oneness of past/present/future) represented by myoho-renge-kyo, represent the underlying fundamental Laws of everything, no matter what we choose to believe or not. I also gained a better understanding of the teachings of Jesus (not by what was written about his lessons by his disciple's (who all denied even knowing him when he was arrested) but by the example that he set 'between the lines'. He also taught Nature - Cause and Effect (reap what we sow) and prayer = communication. But it appears that the disciples didn't get it right, even though when they asked where the Kingdom of God was and Jesus told them that it was within their own lives, they still believed and taught others to believe that God was a man in the sky. I also got to understand that, minus all the added misconceptions, Nichiren taught many of the same things as Jesus did.
Scientists now say that our solar system was born out of a nebula - that physically everything, including ourselves, is made out of stardust and that energy never disappears or ends. Nichiren taught that our body is a small planet, which relies on Earth's environment to exist, and that our life-force is a small universe that contains 'everything' that exists, even though we are only awake to a very small part of it. Like Jesus taught that the Kingdom of God is within (which obviously must mean that's where God is also) Nichiren taught that Enlightenment (Buddhahood) is within. He also taught that there are millions of other worlds like ours with their own mountains, rivers and moons and that there are also places that are wonderful far beyond our present comprehension to conceive and understand. In the physical sense, they are scattered all over the universe - in the spiritual sense, they are all located within each of us. (one way to understand this is how TV works etc.) It doesn't matter how many TVs there are, they are all able to present the same thing if tuned in.
The one thing that confused me after seeing the pictures of Cone Nebular, taken by Hubble back in 2003, was how could I have possibly travelled that distance and back, as even at the speed of light it wouldn't have been possible. Yet, long before Hubble was even built, I accurately described the Cone nebular to so many people. It's only in the last few years that it has finally made sense to me. I went there and back within my own life-force - I travelled across the universe that each of us contains within - not physically but spiritually. I now know that NDEs are journeys we make beyond our physical/Earthly limitations, into our own unknown selves. I also believe that, by way of continuous physical rebirths, we are on a journey to within to eventually discover our true selves - reach a point where we can understand life as it truly is and awaken the wisdom to comprehend and know the real meaning of 'God...
PS: My story doesn't end here:
Over the past few years since I've been posting this brief about my NDE, many people have asked me to write a book about it and the extraordinary things that have followed, so for anyone who may be interested... my autobiography: 'Saved by the Light of the BUDDHA WITHIN' is now available at Amazon books. amzn.to/356Ia5W
ua-cam.com/video/NR5DdqjMxgA/v-deo.html
Let go, and let God - Olivia Newton-John Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Let go, and let God - Olivia Newton-John Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
www.
Fascinating yet question remains why my body doesn't dissolve when I am in deep sleep but lays in bed ( my wife can confirm)
Maybe your wife dissolves................................falun dafa
Because the body is alive and has vital life force i.e. the breath. However in the mind the body has dissolved when asleep in the sense that your mind cannot perceive it. Like when an enlightened person knows he is not the body and he has merged with self/awareness/source, his body to us still exists. It might even still exist to him but he has no identification with it therefore its an illusion to him. Also, your wife can only confirm your body is there when shes awake...if your both in deep sleep...technically the body isnt there in terms of anyone's aware of it. Some thoughts...your comment interested me! :)
While this idea of infinite consciousness/mind of god that we’re all a part of is interesting, there’s no way to objectively prove it unfortunately. It’s basically idealism vs materialism, and there’s no way to prove that everything isn’t mere matter vs a divine infinite consciousness with localized souls etc.
It’s actually provable.
This is simply extraordinary. I really do get this!!! It makes death nothing to fear, because we never really go away as far as our awareness is concerned. Our bodies are not who we are, but rather a temporary gathering/contracting of awareness that creates our temporary physcial being. Many would interpret this is having a "soul" or a "spirit" that carries on after we die in particular religious faiths. But this feels to be more of a psychics-based explanation of how we and the Universe work.
Sounds to me like we absolutely go away and it makes it more terrifying. In his words we “dissolve” into the infinite consciousness. It sounds to me like the infinite consciousness is one mind or one thing and creates it’s own ocean of finite universes for a way to look back at itself. That consciousness has no body and it wants to feel and be something so it creates thoughts to see a reflection of itself. It’s really freaky
We are here to suffer and our bodies are made of cells, just like a prison has cells. Our soul, which resides in the body has to suffer , and then, once the black karma has been suffered away, we are allowed to return home, Heaven, Falun Dafa.
@@jeffforsythe9514 argh! The body is NOT a mistake!
@@goych I never said that the body is a mistake, you must have sent that comment to the wrong address.
@@jeffforsythe9514 just the way I interpreted what you wrote, perhaps you weren’t clear, I hope you can discover freedom within this human experience rather than without it!
We can "expiriance" this death of localization of awareness by being put in total anesthesia during on medical operation. So what happens is your mind going on for a sleep and this is a little different from a normal sleeping because while you sleep you can still expiriance mind activity and awareness can still expiriance it self through dreaming(it's localized in that point). But during total brain anesthesia all what's left in that moment is awareness it self. Why? because... Ego disappears so called "localization of awareness" dies. All which is left is pure awareness itself witch can't be known by ego/mind/brain and say like: Aha this is it this is how it feels like. There is no mental ability in it. No thinking mind to recognize it. Just pure spaciousness-timeless-infinite awareness. So when you wake up from a anesthesia you can't really say how much time has passed and where you been. It's like a gap in the memory. You can't explain it. Ego can't expiriance the awareness because it's made from awareness itself. It's really simple to understand this once you expiriance it. There's nothing to expect there. It's made of nothingness. That's what actually happens when we die.
If your localization of consciousness disappeares at death, what do the patterns in near death experiences and children remembering past lives show?
6:08 Relax, we're only dying. A localisation of our infinite awareness disperses. No big deal. Up to the next localisation, the next experience, preferably 'on higher ground'. Thank you for this clear presentation !
@@brandonlynch7509 That's the key question. If the personality with all its stories vanishes, which of course can be a relief, can there still be an individualised soul entity ? Maybe in the 5th Dimension, any encounter with a passed away relative is possible beyond time and space, still experienced as a separate but more ethereal entity, like in a dream. Those who have truly realised they are 'not of this 3D world', could go to even higher dimensions. The higher the dimension, the more the I AM is experienced and the more the individualized soul entity is abandoned. I remember Eckhart Tolle commenting on this topic 'If anything is left at all ...'. Even in this 3D world the ego can re-experience pure awareness, both I's are there. The more 'little me' is set aside, so the less one identifies with personal stories, the more the I AM is uncovered. Entities who are still strongly attached to relatives, go back to Earth, some say, others more detached, go to another realm. Anyway, our 'unborn' energetic essence has no other option than to transform, as it cannot die either. Thanks for the question. Makes me rephrase ideas :)
@@WhatsYourHzFrequency Thanks for the reply (:
@@brandonlynch7509 😊
@@WhatsYourHzFrequency would you say once death has happened we basically go back to a child like state in that we see things with fresh news eyes, like a baby who plays with toy and is mesmerised by the toy we see the works the same way after death but with a adult awareness? So basically with she’s the “I” then we are totally at once with the awareness of the present?
I’ve seen my loved one present them selfs clearly in energy fluid form, it moves and has intelligence. It can pass through walls and response to some of my questions. This form seems to be my love one who is now free of form and pure awareness energy
But that disperse could stAy in the buffer zone? Or reincarnation into form?
Classic Rupert. Eloquent, profound and dead intriguing!
the questioner has obviously never been knocked out. What happens to your awareness? it goes bye bye
Indeed.
I always had that inclination-the moment to moment loss of focusing/localising awareness is a small version of the loss of focus/localising in death. Love his laugh at the end
When the body falls away we are still here and wide awake. No loss, just one body, we have had many and probably will have many more. We become more aware when the body dies. If we have been good, an angel brings us, the soul, to a fresh womb. Falun Dafa, that's all folks.
There is no loss in death, we are still alive but the body has fallen away. He never uses the word soul, why? This teacher gives no explanation as to why we are on earth, why all the suffering and where are we headed, the wonderful practice Falun Dafa does.
@@jeffforsythe9514shut up will ya
I never understand the statement that infinite consiousness cannot know a finite object while at the same time, consiousness is the creator of that finite object.
You have a good point. My view exactly. Also, how is it that Rupert, being finite, can know the INFINITE? Is Rupert a "special" finite being that knows that the INFINITE cannot know ITSELF or Rupert (the finite being)? Is Rupert taking wild guesses as to the nature of the INFINITE with his puny finite mind?
Best analogy I know given by Sikh' 9th Guru "it is like a bubble on water."
Today the water is too polluted. Falun Dafa
Wow. Rupert is out over his skis again. These questions go deeper than his limited realization, so he has to rely on a conceptual framework based on the mind and its logic. He hasn't actually realized the Self. So he has to create a conceptual framework that will appeal to egos in the waking state, because he is an ego in the waking state.
Agree. I don't think he has experienced the awakening he needs to back up his concepts. I think he has "awakened" to how to talk about things he wishes he knew.
Wow.That eliminates the wrong perception about death and unnecessary sufferings.True knowledge liberates.Thanks Rupert.
No amount of suffering goes unrewarded. He never uses the word soul, why? This teacher gives no explanation as to why we are on earth, why all the suffering and where are we headed, the wonderful practice Falun Dafa does.
The difference between knowledge and wisdom is suffering..............Falun Dafa
No, it doesn’t: because what he’s saying is just a theoretical concept. It doesn’t prove anything. It’s an attempt to reify consciousness but at a cosmic level.
@@rjbullockproof on a scientific level, within physical experience we can agree upon, is no substitute for direct experience you can't refute to one self but perhaps also cannot direct share with another. We all have to find out for ourselves, which comes from the path of discovery, which is not the same as either belief or doubt.
Why mind needs senses??If is body image of the mind. 🐸
I am Native American..and the way we explain this is: when you die the "creator" calls you back..the same creator that some would call "I AM" in the Bible. It makes sense to me now.
You experience I AM each moment, what is the first expression we use before everything else? I AM! But you can go deeper, what is even before this, the "I", consciousness, awareness by itself knowing itself through itself as itself. Pure presence.
No, when we die, the body, made of cells, falls off but the immortal soul remains right there. Then, either a demon or angel comes to lead you to another human body or to that hot spot. I hope that has cleared things up for you
How we humans find ways to deny death.
At the end of the day this is all speculative. Sounds great in the same way as listening to someone explain their life experiences when you're on an lsd trip. Just because it sounds "deep" doesn't make it facts. How would one know? How does he know? Answer: He DOES NOT know. He just using some high-level intellect to theorize.
Rupert is brilliant, I agree he doesn’t know, bye even said it himself in one of his teachings, but he makes one think outside the box, the way he makes us think about reality to me is good to the point I don’t doubt he is wrong, especially when he always says “don’t ask thought”. I believe 💯 our essential being is not the body or thoughts, like he said “we are possibly dreams in gods infinite mind”
Thats right. You should not accept whoever, like teachers, parents, respectable people, academic people, scriptures, etc..., say anything as the truth until you investigate and prove to yourself..by using it, applying it and find it produce results as claimed...But here it just is intellectually interesting...
@@DuongTran-mh7ci I guess you don’t see the beauty in what he is pointing too. It’s closer than close that you are missing it completely. Don’t mean this in a bad way at all tho. It will “arrive” to you “eventually”.have a good day
This is my take, the Body dies, the form EGOIC MIND dies, then you are left with individual conscious awareness energy, each of us is that after death. this energy doesn't have a form, it just awareness energy. but from my prospective, it is still a form, it still is something, its not (nothing), it is still an form of energy, . it still is something, so awareness lives on after death, but not in the same ways as we know it. it doesnt contain form ie ego it probably has a 360 degree awareness, so it contains zero form. so it cannot identify with self at all. So it cannot feel loved ones pains from loss etc.
He is just another wordsmith....falundafa
I’m okay with pretty much anything as long as I’m not sent back to this hellish nightmare called “life”.
Consciousness Never dies, It only Transforms.
Transforms into what? Humbug.
IT'S ONLY A MYTH AND NOTHING ELSE !
This Rupert form has an awareness level I have never seen in my conscious form of Rich.
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A very palatable word salad.
As a late friend used to say to me ' No answer the mind can give is true'. When mind disappears, there is nothing and everything and that can happen in an apparent physical body.
The mind is the primordial soul which is immortal. He never uses the word soul, why? This teacher gives no explanation as to why we are on earth, why all the suffering and where are we headed, the wonderful practice Falun Dafa does.
And how would you know these things with such specificity and certainty? Really!
yeah i'm not a fan of this kind of talk.. rupert prides himself on being an experiential teacher, not one to blindfully talk of hope or certainty toward an imaginary timeframe. Though I suppose he was asked the question, I just wish some of these teachers could say "i don't know" just once.
"I don't know" is YOUR state of mind not his, therefore this is your experience.
"I don't know', might be ignorance
Check out Roger Castillo
He says what he says because he is not awake.
@Aaron NoneYa No thank you.
Can't say I understood most of that but I enjoyed it. I would love to understand more. I would like to know what part I play in this movie I find myself in. It's hard to think on any other level but the one I'm on. Do I count have I a choice, all those human questions. I'm confused 🙃
I feel ya. Hard to comprehend but I believe I got the jest. And it's enough to give me peace of mind today.
Hey, when your confused the best thing to do is witness the confusion. Like cloudy water, when left on its own, it settles. Love to you my friend.
That last part invoked a beautiful image in my mind, such beauty is God, despite all the suffering
Not despite all the suffering, bless the suffering, no amount of suffering goes unrewarded. You are your primordial soul which has never learned why you are here on this plant, bad teachers encouraging you to just play in the mud instead of seeking the Divine. Falun Dafa
Or, it could be that when you are dead, you are dead.
There is no dead…
Awareness is the observer of all phenomena including birth and death.
Successive precipitations. This is soooooo true. Stuff just shows up in my life that has nothing to do with the present life circumstances, but shows up over and over and over, like it's been with me for ages. I brought it with me into this life. The more I appreciate and pay attention to these things, the more "real" they get. And, I'm getting benefit from remembering and recognizing these things. And, certain people in my current life, I've known from "before." And I'm able to go back and re-contextualize things from the past which makes a difference in the current life for me and for them.
This stuff is totally fascinating and adventurous. Let go of denial, logic, left-brain reasoning and just let yourself be yourself, and be who you've always been in all of your lives. Just getting better and better. Now that I"m conscious of past lives and experiences I've had before, I just apply what I know about forgiveness, healing, letting go, trusting, wholeness, to these past experiences, and it makes a difference in the here and now. It's like taking dust cloths off of old furniture and letting the furniture be lovely, new, functional, meaningful. Sort of a weak analogy, but it came up ....
Thank you, Rupert. As always, I feel changed after every lesson from, through, you!
This does it!!...Until i get a better explanation from anyone else where ever they are,.. this is as clear,simplified and concise as it gets....
Consciousness is the soul, a much smaller particle than a cell, when our cells decay and our body dies, the soul enters another womb, Falun Dafa.
Wow ! Feel i think I understood more about consciousness n life death n sleep( years of trying to get more information) from this man's explanation than any others.. thank you!!!🙏🙏🙏🙏🌸
This is an excellent video. Probably the best one I've seen.
nice theory, well verbalised, but why so complicated, often the simple explanation is the one that is correct
I want to share my method of realization which helped me. I would be happy if even just one man benefited from it. When hurt, or under any feeling, emotion, you must try to feel the I who is hurt. This is the most important. Observe until you can feel it clearly. This is difficult. While observing dont try to stop the feeling of hurt. Then continue observing the I without resisting the feeling of hurt. You will discover that this I is something focused or localized inside. Continue observation. You will find out that this I exist because you identified yourself with hurt. The hurt became alive. You became the hurt. If you continue investigation, you will discover that you are not the hurt, not this I, but this I is inside you. You will be aware of yourself as borderless something (i cannot find a word for that) and this focused I at the same time. And with your will you can stop the identification and the feeling will be stopped also.
The only trouble with your theory is that we are here to suffer. We all have become fun seekers but have never learned that we fell here from Heaven as a punishment and suffering is the only ticket to get back to Heaven, the wonderful practice falundafa explains it all.
"What Happens to Awareness After Death?"
Such an easy question, and what a convoluted answer!
Awareness disappears for that organism, the death of the animal (humans included) signifies the death of the brain, and the mind it gave raise to; as far as "that" mind is concerned it is over, just like before that organism came to life, along with it, it's brain and awareness. Common folks, why do you want to make it so complicated!
And no, it is not a stupid question.
Because we want to live forever
Look like mr. Rogers
He sings a good song BUT how can he b so sure ?
I've experienced the I am you can't describe it
What happens to Awareness after Death? The short answer: Nothing!:)
If we believe in NDE´s the awareness is still localized after death of the body, but it´s not localized in the body. But it still has some mental localization - it usually still has subjective experience as an "individual".
+nimim. Marko Mikkilä
If you believe that energy can not be created or destroyed yet can be transformed, a question I would ask is, do you consider awareness/consciousness/mind/spirit to be a form of energy?
A standing wave
TexasTimelapse
So energy expressed in the form of a standing wave
perhaps the brain is still functioning for a while, ie, "mental localisation", after all, the only examples of NDE , are from people who have survived with functioning brains
How?
3:00 👌
4:44 Turiya
6:45 Mind whirlpool analogy
8:00 Reincarnation
8:30 CRUX
9:00 !!!!!
I get it. This finite body/mind is like an ice cube floating in water. Eventually the ice cube dissolves back into water. In the same way, our finite consciousness dissolves back into infinite consciousness upon death of the body. :)
Just thinking .....
What do you remember BEFORE you were born?
Just saying ...
With all that dreaming, we are experienced dyers before we ‘die’ into the Infinite Awareness.
Yes and we were “dead” before we were “born” . Mind blowing isn’t it?
Forget dreams and get a great teacher..........falun dafa
what absolute twaddle.
Every video from Rupert Spira blows my mind and expands it further. Every time I have an "aha" moment and the feeling that now I get it, I stumble upon another striking video that gives new perspectives. Masterful
The Awareness we experience is like a drop of water of the ocean of Awareness. However, during the experience of Awakening, or "Enlightenment", Awareness "wakes up" as our attachment to sensations, our attachment to form literally dissolves. That is, the whole mind-brain-body phenomenon dissolves. And, we, the identity we've invented, fabricated, constructed, no longer exists because the attachment to sensations has dissolved. And, we experience ourselves as an energetic presence of energy, arising and passing away, in a constant flow and flux, energetic molecules observing energetic molecules, with the "knowing", that all of creation is that, energetic molecules; that it is "all One" and, that our consciousness is part of the One, and it is also the One, that there is no separation between the drop of water and the ocean, that it is all One. This is what we call Awakening, or Enlightenment. This is the experience I experienced, I say, I am '"Awake", but there is no one who becomes Awake, awareness wakes up, Consciousness becomes aware of itself, the "observer" and the "observed" as One. So, there is no one who dies, the body dies, the Presence that we are, that All of it that it is, continues after the body dies, it is the ocean, Awareness, that was before and always will be that continues. And because we have dissolved attachment to sensations there cannot be another incarnation; no attachment, no incarnation. Usually when we die there is still attachment to sensations, attachment causes another reincarnation. But, if there is no attachment, no reincarnation. Awareness existed before we came in as a personality with attachment to sensations, and Awareness will continue after the personality ceases with the death of the personality.
@James Smallwood Will you, please, explain what you mean by this? You wrote: "And, we, the identity we've invented, fabricated, constructed, no longer exists because the attachment to sensations has dissolved." What do you mean by that "we"? It seems as if you were refering to the "we" that "unawakened" people refer to when they say "I". If that is the case how can this "I" invent, fabricate and construct itself, if we are constantly told (not only) by Rupert (but also by other teachers) that this I doesn´t exist or doesn´t have an independent existence? Also, in this respect, how can we possibly dissolve attachment to sensations?
@@markie9739 The "I" that I have invented is a thought, paired with sensations in the body. The origin of suffering is attachment to sensations which resides in the unconscious mind. The basis of this attachment to sensations is craving and aversion. Originating in the unconscious mind is craving, and aversion. The desire to experience only pleasant sensations and avoid unpleasant sensations. I have a thought about an "I", but there really is no "I", there is only a thought about an "I", connected to attachment to sensations which originates in the unconscious mind as craving and aversion. The example I prefer to use is, the "I" is simply a mirage; it appears to be real, but it is only a mirage, a construct of craving and aversion. When I Awaken, the attachment to seeing the mirage as real, dissolves, and I see the Truth, that there was never an "I" in the first place; there was only a thought about an "I". Buddha taught that by observing sensations throughout the body, simply observing, without labeling, without reacting, eventually the attachment to sensations dissolves. He called the the meditation Vipassana (Insight). This is what he discovered under the Bodhi tree, and taught the remainder of his life. In 1995 I attended my first Vipassana Meditation course, taught by S.N. Goenka. The 10-day courses, all courses, 45-day, 60 day, and so on are all free, at the end of the course you make a donation. My Awakening happened at a 30-day course in India at Dhammagiri, the main center. You can sign up for a course at www.dhamma.org. I have sat, served and taught a total of about 20 courses. I hope this helps your understanding. However, it is always said, "if you want t know the Truth, go inside".
@@jamessmallwood7803 Thank you very much for the explanation.
@@markie9739 Everything IS Consciousness, existing in all of its various forms, existing in ALL forms, animating ALL forms. Awakening can happen in equally infinite ways. I referred to Vipassana meditation. However, it was not Vipassana that lead to Awakening. It was the conscious act of observing sensations, in the moment, what is the feeling in this moment, this moment, this moment. Eckhart Tolle suffering with deep depression, sitting in the bath tub (I think this is how the story goes), said, "ok, I'm going to sit here and observe the depression". So, everyone has an "equal opportunity" for Awakening by simply observing in the moment, one's experience. I re-read my reply to you, and it had a tone of inferring you should attend a Vipassana meditation course. I apologize; its not how Awakening happens. Its how it happened for me. The one thing that everyone who has had an Awakening seems to have in common is the act of simply observing. Ok, all the best-
@@jamessmallwood7803 Yes, thank you, there are things I understand e.g. that awakening can happen in any way and it just happens (although I am told the awaking in reality doesn´t even happen:). There are things which keep confusing me but I guess that until there is this "sense of me" that is just the case, those are the things that the "apparent me" cannot understand:).