Why would Freeza even go to Namek? Freeza learned about the dragon balls from Vegeta, and Vegeta learned about them from Piccolo after Goku died.... No dead Goku, no Namek saga
I mean, at some point during the fight against Nappa and Vegeta, the Dragon Balls could've been brought, and Frieza heard about them through one of the scouters.
Sad that Piccolo didn't turn good here, but unfortunately without him training Gohan he doesn't change. 🫤 But at least with Gohan training under Kami means the humans are stronger for Nappa and Vegeta. 🙂 I liked how there were different events going on Namek and Earth. At least Broly and Paragus doesn't live on Vampa anymore, and with Vegeta's gone here Paragus can let his revenge go. 👍 I liked how each person on Beerus' Planet training in something different Goku (Road to Ultra Instinct), Gohan (Mastering each form he has or gets), and Broly (Control his power). 🙂 Surprised that Cell was a part of the U7 TOP Team, but makes sense. Me personally I would think Frieza would be more then ready if he's preparing for Goku, Gohan, and/or Broly, but until that inevitable Black Frieza Arc it's just speculation on my part. 🤔 I wonder how Cell would react when he finds out the R&R Army is still going, and oh boy Beast Gohan with God Ki it would be more beastly. 😮 My favorite part was Gohan and Broly becoming a dynamic duo when fighting together like how Gohan and Piccolo are in canon. Anyways overall another really good full-story, and looking forward to the next one soon.
Nice vid and I have some ideas what if goku had super zenkai. What if goku teleported into the world of dc after t.o.p or after gt or what if goku was transported into the world naruto or fairy tale or marvel in would be interesting
I do plan to make a full story out of that at some point as well. Its in the works but sadly that one is going to take a long time because of art commissions and its all custom story so I'll put it out once Im sure it'll be a good viewing experience
Well SSJ Ikari isnt unachievable by people that arent broly. Take Future Trunks for example, blank eyes, and SSJ exactly like Brolys ikari SSJ. What makes broly different is that he keeps getting stronger past that because of his potential and can eventually turn into the green haired form while Goku is limited to a base multiplier.
@@SaiyanMotionthen I think it should also be nerfed a little, instead of 500× base maybe 250× base which would still be enough for every single fight in this what if
@@bullymaguire632 I mean I could do that but it defeats the purpose of realistic. I feel like if Ikari were a thing, SSJ Ikari is a huge possibility to be achieved. And you could nerf it but I dont see the point in doing so when if that were to be achieved the boost wouldnt change.
Just a question, wouldn’t Cell be significantly stronger after training, even more so than Frieza since it was stated that both Cold and Frieza are mutations of their race and are significantly stronger? Also, since he has the DNA of the saiyans too, wouldn’t he have the highest potential out of everyone there? Especially after spending time getting stronger after the Tournament of Power in this theoretical? I could be wrong though, but it’s just something I was thinking about when you brought up Cell and not having Frieza’s cells but having Cold’s.
im not sure where you're getting the information of "frieza and cold are mutations of their race," I've never heard that before. But to answer your question Cells mix of Saiyan and Frost demon DNA is the reason his growth wouldnt be as significant. If it was just frost demon genetics he would probably boom as we saw with frieza doing just 4 months training, but saiyan DNA doesnt work the same unless your broly. Even with gohan it takes him long periods of training to be as strong as he is aside from the transformations. Cell is a lot of DNA put together, so he only has parts of each species, this allows him to get strong enough in time, but also not overpowered.
@@SaiyanMotion I might have been misinformed then but I’ve heard that Toriyama said that both Frieza and Cold are mutants of their race. I’ll do some research on that then.
@@SaiyanMotionI did find something from a log that has questions answered by Toriyama in an interview. Apparently this was back in 2002, but he did say that maybe Frieza is a new hybrid species that came to be from a spontaneous mutation. I don’t know if this applies to King Cold though. Some other sources say he is a mutation but I don’t think Toriyama confirmed that.
@@SinfulEternity I think I found what you're talking about but the forum seems to be a fan discussion. Its also super contradicting with some saying original canon says "he's a frost demon" and others are saying "he's a mutation." I trust the first option more so just because cell also calls frieza race, frost demons in Xenoverse 1. Although it is up in the air so its rly not 100%
If cell could make a complete copy of himself and not lose any power whatsoever, why doesn't he just absorb those copies of himself to continuously grow stronger
its a bit of an illusion like how he did against goku. More of a technique that doesnt last forever, it kinda doesnt make sense for him to be able to just absorb himself lol
@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman not really. Why didnt cell just make more cell jrs and absorb their powers? Cell isnt making a full copy of himself, its still just him, one person, one mind, using a technique.
Nope! 3:32 I said "Nappa is still strong enough to kill Yamcha and nearly kill chaozu." Nearly meaning he came close but was unable to because of the # of fighters. Chaozu later died against Vegeta
this information is irrelevant. So if you know Trunks SSJ Rage form in DBS thats rly just SSJ ikari. Same features and same exact form. What makes broly different is his ability to take it to a stage unique to him which is the green haired full power super saiyan form.
Trunks SSJ Rage Was a form closing to god ki without god ki on the level pare with ssgssj and green haired broly in the movie is just because the animators felt to do him right because the manga didnt
@@Lakam_ZL you're coming up with whats known as fan interpretation and what we thought was happening while the show was airing. im telling you how it is from what the source material says. SSJR isnt an actual thing we just called it that. Broly has a green haired form because he's a different type of saiyan, he js like that. Trunks' form was never ever stated to have god kii, its js SSJ Ikari, same thing broly has. Broly can just take it further because he's broly lol
lol there's no need to use words like that. I think you missed the point. I've read the manga many times and watched the series so "dragon ball fans havent seen their show" isnt gonna work on me.
yea but piccolo isnt good. Imo he would totally try something and if it werent for gohan he could have just used the dragon balls and made a wish that helped him
no because originally krillin and gohan were able to save him. Goku, Tien, and Krillin didnt wait for the faster spaceship because goku wasnt as injured and didnt know abt gravity training so they get to namek the same time krillin and gohan did originally.
@@yugotokusatsu289Yea im workin on that, next video is almost 3x as long thouhg so a lot more detail. In the video i do think I mentioned that they dont do gravity training because goku doesnt know abt it yes. Thats why I said that goku is much weaker when he arrived on namek
Not exactly. Only for broly can he take Ikari + SSJ and eventually he can get to another stage of power called full power SSJ. No one else can do that (Atleast from what we know)
good question. Kid trunks is never born in this what if, so trunks doesnt exist in the timeline of the what if. But like I said in the video I never change the future timeline cuz its kind of a separate thing so that trunks would still be alive and he has the canon story.
You forget about multiverse?? Trunks traveled back to a different timeline that wasn't his, so it wouldn't make a difference because Vegeta wasn't killed until after Trunks was born, just saying
I don’t like going slow in my stories but I do realize it was a bit too fast. Next what if that comes out today is like 53 minutes tho so it’s a lot slower and a lot more story building 👍
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I thought bro was dead💀@@SaiyanMotion
@@antoniodejesus8623 NAH bro is back and with content loaded up!!!
Goku to Moro : Did you ever train?
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19:43 SHADOW CLONE JUTSU
You should make a version of this but Vegita stays alive
It would be interesting
I would have loved you to have mentioned how Cell would have fit into the DBS Superhero of this story
Fitting full stories in 20 minutes is very impressive. Super concise stuff as always, keep it up!
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Why would Freeza even go to Namek? Freeza learned about the dragon balls from Vegeta, and Vegeta learned about them from Piccolo after Goku died.... No dead Goku, no Namek saga
I mean, at some point during the fight against Nappa and Vegeta, the Dragon Balls could've been brought, and Frieza heard about them through one of the scouters.
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so like a remake, cool, nice to see another video from you, can't wait for the next thing you make.
basically a remake but everythings different lol. Next vids in 2 weeks, in the mean time theres 4 shorts, two per week!
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Nice video, really good editing as well
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Well done 👍 great story ❤
Tien getting in the way of having vegeta in the story
tien was not playing
Wait why would you not include Vegeta and kill him off?? I mean I'm just curious lol
Shouldn't cell have Frieza's DNA as he's from a different timeline?
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ngl the editing on this video goes hella hard
9:22 ayo what have his way?!?!
Wish these what if were longer
dont worry next one is 53 minutes!!!
Why would goku even need to use ikari against ginyu with a base powerlevel of 1.5 million?
he doesnt get it immediately. Gohan and Krillin only got about 7x stronger initially. That boost happens over time.
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The ikari form is amazing
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Sad that Piccolo didn't turn good here, but unfortunately without him training Gohan he doesn't change. 🫤 But at least with Gohan training under Kami means the humans are stronger for Nappa and Vegeta. 🙂 I liked how there were different events going on Namek and Earth. At least Broly and Paragus doesn't live on Vampa anymore, and with Vegeta's gone here Paragus can let his revenge go. 👍 I liked how each person on Beerus' Planet training in something different Goku (Road to Ultra Instinct), Gohan (Mastering each form he has or gets), and Broly (Control his power). 🙂 Surprised that Cell was a part of the U7 TOP Team, but makes sense. Me personally I would think Frieza would be more then ready if he's preparing for Goku, Gohan, and/or Broly, but until that inevitable Black Frieza Arc it's just speculation on my part. 🤔 I wonder how Cell would react when he finds out the R&R Army is still going, and oh boy Beast Gohan with God Ki it would be more beastly. 😮 My favorite part was Gohan and Broly becoming a dynamic duo when fighting together like how Gohan and Piccolo are in canon. Anyways overall another really good full-story, and looking forward to the next one soon.
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What if goku mastered spirit control!
could be interesting, learning spirit control early. Thanks for the suggestion!
Nice bro got sick of the what if goku was trapped or reborn with his memories parts 20483820 😂
thats not me
I only every made like a 10 minute video on that LOL
@@SaiyanMotion i know im just making a joke about other what if youtubers. U are one of the best
@@RJ-md1yp Lmao, yea that got out of hand. I rly appreciate it tho!
Nice vid and I have some ideas what if goku had super zenkai. What if goku teleported into the world of dc after t.o.p or after gt or what if goku was transported into the world naruto or fairy tale or marvel in would be interesting
Late but welcome back bro
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I prefer a what if goku became like dbz broly later then on a G. O. D
Boohoo not yo video
@@HonestlyMixi yeah .... I understand.... It's just making goku kakarot and anti hero..... People will love it
hmm, maybe interesting.
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Nice
Hey when will you continue what if goku found the omnitrix?
I do plan to make a full story out of that at some point as well. Its in the works but sadly that one is going to take a long time because of art commissions and its all custom story so I'll put it out once Im sure it'll be a good viewing experience
@@SaiyanMotion im ok with that as long as i get to see it im fine
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2:13 Radits is power level of 1.600 so it over kill and 2:22 it don’t match him
Wouldn't goku with ikari ssj be exactly like broly though? Like super muscular Kevin Levrone style? 😂 That form before broly's hair turned green
Well SSJ Ikari isnt unachievable by people that arent broly. Take Future Trunks for example, blank eyes, and SSJ exactly like Brolys ikari SSJ. What makes broly different is that he keeps getting stronger past that because of his potential and can eventually turn into the green haired form while Goku is limited to a base multiplier.
@@SaiyanMotionthen I think it should also be nerfed a little, instead of 500× base maybe 250× base which would still be enough for every single fight in this what if
@@bullymaguire632 I mean I could do that but it defeats the purpose of realistic. I feel like if Ikari were a thing, SSJ Ikari is a huge possibility to be achieved. And you could nerf it but I dont see the point in doing so when if that were to be achieved the boost wouldnt change.
Because he isn't a LSSJ or in Super's case a Mutant
@@bullymaguire632 500x? Is that ikari + SSJ?
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Just a question, wouldn’t Cell be significantly stronger after training, even more so than Frieza since it was stated that both Cold and Frieza are mutations of their race and are significantly stronger? Also, since he has the DNA of the saiyans too, wouldn’t he have the highest potential out of everyone there? Especially after spending time getting stronger after the Tournament of Power in this theoretical? I could be wrong though, but it’s just something I was thinking about when you brought up Cell and not having Frieza’s cells but having Cold’s.
im not sure where you're getting the information of "frieza and cold are mutations of their race," I've never heard that before. But to answer your question Cells mix of Saiyan and Frost demon DNA is the reason his growth wouldnt be as significant. If it was just frost demon genetics he would probably boom as we saw with frieza doing just 4 months training, but saiyan DNA doesnt work the same unless your broly. Even with gohan it takes him long periods of training to be as strong as he is aside from the transformations. Cell is a lot of DNA put together, so he only has parts of each species, this allows him to get strong enough in time, but also not overpowered.
@@SaiyanMotion I might have been misinformed then but I’ve heard that Toriyama said that both Frieza and Cold are mutants of their race. I’ll do some research on that then.
@@SinfulEternity let me know if you find anything credible!
@@SaiyanMotionI did find something from a log that has questions answered by Toriyama in an interview. Apparently this was back in 2002, but he did say that maybe Frieza is a new hybrid species that came to be from a spontaneous mutation. I don’t know if this applies to King Cold though. Some other sources say he is a mutation but I don’t think Toriyama confirmed that.
@@SinfulEternity I think I found what you're talking about but the forum seems to be a fan discussion. Its also super contradicting with some saying original canon says "he's a frost demon" and others are saying "he's a mutation." I trust the first option more so just because cell also calls frieza race, frost demons in Xenoverse 1. Although it is up in the air so its rly not 100%
Bro imagine instead of vegeta its CELL
19:18 moro*
If cell could make a complete copy of himself and not lose any power whatsoever, why doesn't he just absorb those copies of himself to continuously grow stronger
its a bit of an illusion like how he did against goku. More of a technique that doesnt last forever, it kinda doesnt make sense for him to be able to just absorb himself lol
It does make sense kinda, temporary @@SaiyanMotion
@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman not really. Why didnt cell just make more cell jrs and absorb their powers? Cell isnt making a full copy of himself, its still just him, one person, one mind, using a technique.
Bro future trunks would not exist because vegeta is dead
If you watched a bit longer, he states its because his stories focus on the MAIN timeline, Trunks Timeline is the future, and thus, a constant.
cell couldve absoebed every fighter in top and just jump of the edge they are still alive just unconsios
Bruh raditz doesn't know the power ball technique WTF???
We don’t know that for sure. But I think for the story It made sense for us to make that fight happen
Make videos at least 30 min plz
I dont like to drag a story. My pacing is unique to me so I like to do it in a full way but not overdo it.
Another banger never disappoints ( I’m not a dang ai)
glad you enjoyed the video!
this guy litarally hates vegeta lmfao
LOL, just realistic, I dont see vegeta making it out a live if Tien lives.
Wait so chiaotzu dies to nappa but then fights vegeta???
Nope! 3:32 I said "Nappa is still strong enough to kill Yamcha and nearly kill chaozu." Nearly meaning he came close but was unable to because of the # of fighters. Chaozu later died against Vegeta
@@SaiyanMotion ooooooh copy that!!!! 🤘🤘🤘
IKARI is usuable by Lssj or well mutated saiyan like broly in DBS and not in Z cause Z broly was a type C and not a berserker
this information is irrelevant. So if you know Trunks SSJ Rage form in DBS thats rly just SSJ ikari. Same features and same exact form. What makes broly different is his ability to take it to a stage unique to him which is the green haired full power super saiyan form.
Trunks SSJ Rage Was a form closing to god ki without god ki on the level pare with ssgssj and green haired broly in the movie is just because the animators felt to do him right because the manga didnt
@@Lakam_ZL you're coming up with whats known as fan interpretation and what we thought was happening while the show was airing. im telling you how it is from what the source material says. SSJR isnt an actual thing we just called it that. Broly has a green haired form because he's a different type of saiyan, he js like that. Trunks' form was never ever stated to have god kii, its js SSJ Ikari, same thing broly has. Broly can just take it further because he's broly lol
GO READ THE MANGA TWINK@@SaiyanMotion
lol there's no need to use words like that. I think you missed the point. I've read the manga many times and watched the series so "dragon ball fans havent seen their show" isnt gonna work on me.
what if cell ABSORBED MORO
Goku use trunk form
Also piccolo is not dumb he knows that goku will get stronger once he comes back
yea but piccolo isnt good. Imo he would totally try something and if it werent for gohan he could have just used the dragon balls and made a wish that helped him
Oh my yeezy....
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Ayo 8 minutes ago?
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And you lost it lmao
Lol
Wouldn't Dende be dead before they could get to Namek?
no because originally krillin and gohan were able to save him. Goku, Tien, and Krillin didnt wait for the faster spaceship because goku wasnt as injured and didnt know abt gravity training so they get to namek the same time krillin and gohan did originally.
@@SaiyanMotion So they didn't do gravity trainning?
Sorry, you breeze past everthing so fast.
@@yugotokusatsu289Yea im workin on that, next video is almost 3x as long thouhg so a lot more detail.
In the video i do think I mentioned that they dont do gravity training because goku doesnt know abt it yes. Thats why I said that goku is much weaker when he arrived on namek
@@SaiyanMotion Fair enough, that was my bad.
@@yugotokusatsu289 no worries. Thanks for watching!
is ikari + super sayin is full power ssj
Not exactly. Only for broly can he take Ikari + SSJ and eventually he can get to another stage of power called full power SSJ. No one else can do that (Atleast from what we know)
Broly is a Mutant
Ok but who the father of trunks in this what if through ?
good question. Kid trunks is never born in this what if, so trunks doesnt exist in the timeline of the what if. But like I said in the video I never change the future timeline cuz its kind of a separate thing so that trunks would still be alive and he has the canon story.
@@SaiyanMotion Oh, ok thank for the answer
@@paker3311 yep! Thanks for watching
Ikari+ssj = ssj4😂
Lol if only. Broly and future trunks both have SSJ Ikari in DBS, sadly that doesn’t translate to SSJ4
Pls pin 0:57
I dont think tien will be able to beat frost who is a match for ssj Goku
If you can animate this I will watch it it's pretty good 👍🏿
Animation is expensive and time consuming
@@chandlerdoeswhatifs9399 wish I had magic
Future trunks should not be there because vegeta dies before trunks was born in the present so the same thing in the future too
You forget about multiverse?? Trunks traveled back to a different timeline that wasn't his, so it wouldn't make a difference because Vegeta wasn't killed until after Trunks was born, just saying
Why u have to talk so frigin fast
I don’t like going slow in my stories but I do realize it was a bit too fast. Next what if that comes out today is like 53 minutes tho so it’s a lot slower and a lot more story building 👍
What if goku use kaioken as a form ssj style hair but with red
Death
@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman no
@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman it will be more stable then kaioken
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the heart virus wouldn't exist since goku never been to yardat
He didn't get it from Yardrat
To fast! To fast!
Yea i know, dont worry! I've been working on that, the next full story is in two weeks and its 53 minutes long 😅
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