I guess that's what it takes to buy one's conscience so he can face the public and tell bold-faced lies. Because not everybody can do it. I guess if the price is right, some people can say goodbye to their consciences. Disgusting.
@@anythinggoes5574 This CEO got 45% increase last year. The employees got 1% in 8 years and that's 8 yeras ago. That's not the case with basketball players and thier CEO. But the Hype with in sports to day in general is crazy.
I feel the same way it’s absolutely crazy that we live in a society where these people are getting paid so much for doing little work compared to the people who are actually making the planes
As someone who has worked for Boeing and was also fired by them (mind you I've never been fired before, rather I've received high remarks during previous employments), I could assure everyone that Dave Calhoun is being extremely evasive/deceitful with statements such as him/Boeing prioritizing safety and being against retaliation of whistleblowers. Not that it would come to anyone's surprise by now... but just saying from someone who has inside knowledge, Boeing's "Just Culture" was quite the dystopian place where management would "talk" to you verbally so there's no paper trail, combined with most employees that are just dead inside but believe religiously how Boeing's the best company on the planet. I don't know how to explain it, but out of all my years of job hopping, that place gave me the creeps cause the only employees that have dedicated their careers to Boeing and were still there, were absolutely 'zombiefied'. Like, think of the Company Man back when pensions were a thing, but now remove essentially all experience, skill, personality, culture out of them, completely strip them of everything that would make those employees "human", and that's basically the modern day backbone of Boeing. The vast majority of these employees, if they were to leave Boeing tomorrow, they'd have absolute zero marketable skills to be able to find another job, which only further adds to their 'loyalty' to Boeing. It really was very sad and depressing working there. Like I said at the beginning, I've never been fired before, and for Boeing to fire me because I'm in the military and needed to perform my annual military obligations, in a weird way I do appreciate the silver lining of my termination because who knows what would've happened if they didn't fire me. I got bills I gotta pay, and wouldn't have left because of my need for an income. Like, how does that saying go? "If you stick around long enough, you'll see yourself turn into the villain."
Also, when you hear of Dave Calhoun mentioning how "Safety and Quality" are very important to him, Boeing, and Boeing's culture, I think it's very important for everyone to distinguish and have Boeing define if that safety culture revolves around building aircraft that are exceptionally safe..........or if "Safety at Boeing is top priority" is more akin to workplace safety, like from an OSHA perspective......... Does Boeing care about customer and traveler safety on their aircraft........ or you know, does Boeing not want to have to pay out worker's comp and so they'll establish an inhouse 'medical clinic' office with an on-duty nurse much like at an elementary school, and bring daily awareness to how important it is to not slip and fall in a warehouse floor if there's a puddle on the ground. Not saying, sharing, or otherwise disclosing anything specific on the matter, but you know... just food for thought on some questions I think might be worth someone asking and getting better clarification on Boeing's definition of Safety within their culture.................
100% what I heard from mechanics at Boeing. They lost the military to industry pipeline because they have created such a sour workplace. If there weren't just two manufacturers of commercial aircraft, Boeing would not be flying. The billboard would go back up "last one to leave, turn off the lights."
Instead of answering the questions, he is giving all this gibberish!!! POLITICS!!!! This is not about Boeing, People, Customers, etc. It seems that personal goals and gains are important whereas people are nothing. The fu.... salary, or compensation, in millions of dollars is the real interest, the lifestyle, and so on!!! It seems that nobody cares about the USA's "face," called Boeing!!! This is a reality!!!!
It is a problem of having more lawyers than engineers. Boeing used to be the jewelry of Americans in technology. Cost cutting including laying off experienced workers, software dependence instead of complimenting mechanical functions, and outsourcing may be at the core of this problem.
Calhoun has an accounting degree. 1998 GE accident -> 2024 Alaska door (totally skipped the fatal Max flights). Speak up if you see a problem, but don't tell anyone you did??? And a new whistleblower was threatened right before this hearing... Calhoun: "Something went wrong" when a whistle-blower was threatened by his supervisor. Company needs to be on probation and FAA inspectors need to be more active with doing ACTUAL inspections. Self regulation clearly does NOT work. Boeing used to have its own machine shops rather than importing defective parts.
Huh? I've only briefly worked in aviation PR and even I know that he shouldn't have referred to Alaska Airlines as an "accident". It wasn't an accident, it was an "incident" by way of aviation risk terminology.
Following the deaths of two Boeing whistleblowers, an attorney who represented them says there are at least 10 more who are determined to come forward. Joshua Dean, a former quality auditor at Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems turned whistleblower, died last week after a sudden illness. His death came less than two months after another Boeing whistleblower, John Barnett, was found dead of a gunshot wound that authorities said appeared to be self-inflicted. --Newsweek
@@sl4983that Josh haw rly who I don’t always agree with but was absolutely right for calling him out and saying he’s being rewarded while the real men and women who make these planes are being equally rewarded
He is a liar, they / he did not listen to anyone. He knows nothing about the company he supposedly runs. He should be well versed on absolutely everything! He speaks of a an employee survey.. what the actual hell!! He is the ceo and speaks of a general survey? As a response to planes falling out of the sky!! Ridiculous
What we see here is a guy earning his $33,000,000.00/year salary. He’s being compensated for taking the bullet for those who went before him. This is how corporations operate, the next guy will do exactly the same thing. The work required to get Boeing back to where it once was is unfathomablly HUGE. I want to listen to what the CORRECTIVE ACTION(S) will be…
It is amazing to watch this guy so blatantly lying to our face. Why isn't anyone talking about the 2 previous whistleblowers that have been persecuted then found dead, of especially suspicious accidents or"suicides"? I guess they have no concern for peoples lives, in the air or on the ground. Sociopaths and psychopaths seem to be filling too many positions of power these days and putting too many of us at risk! No one seems to be responsible for their actions anymore.
I’m FULLY convinced Dave Calhoun was that spoiled rich kid who was given everything in life. He’s practically been protected from accountability given that golden parachute. Money talks, injustice walks!
I been trying to apply for weeks internally for a position I've done federally but still can't get through recruiters ie in quality related. But shot down via recruiters constantly.
Lack of quality in the building of ,everything. Quality cost money, that they won't pay for. Boeing is going lean manufacturing, that dose not promote quality
Because the company is regulated by the Government and in America the Government works for the people. Constitutionally, the people are entitled to know when a company runs afoul of the regulatory process.
„Something went wrong.“ When something „goes wrong“, the responsible party will do everything to correct the wrongdoing, not make it a policy to ignore it for years.
David Calhoun is a billionaire which include all the stocks he owns. Most of the CEOs are billionaires - Look at Google's CEO's net worth "Pichai's net worth is reputedly above $1.3 billion. In 2022, Pichai got $226 million in salary and stock awards in the form of performance-based or restricted stocks". This is not a fair.
He sure talks the talk but can he get the doing done? As an IT engineer myself I don't think he understands the slightest thing about engineering. His statement "the design of an aircraft starts with an engineering effort" is very telling.
Employees probably mad because he was getting paid so much they probably didn’t do quality control better ….bottom line is if you have your employees back they will have your back….
This man should have been in prison for 6 years along with many others. However, he is still given the opportunity to pompously lie and dodge. As the classic of communism said, the abolition of justice destroys the state. This is the very case.
Even Bob Newhart's Grace L. Ferguson Airline (And Storm Door) Co. would have done a better job building safe passenger jets than Boeing did with the 737-Max. Grace Ferguson would be more transparent about it all too. Hell, she had concern for the storm door right there in the name. Maybe Boeing should be sold & re-branded: the "Boeing Airplane & Storm Door Company". Motto: We promise we'll keep the storm door shut this time!
I promised with my self and Heaven. Eventually, cheap pay or worse boss but my mind still do the best thing on my job . Because company soaring up and up I feel happy. In fact , door was blown out . I no word to say for who completely that doors in that day . Who doesn’t care passengers and crew people on that board . So bad minds
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What is the cause of the problem? Our collective greed. So let's not blame the CEO. He is merely acting in accordance with our desires as shareholders. Essentially, he has done everything right. We, the shareholders, are the ones who should be on the stand. Isn't that so?
Trump is bought & paid opposition. He ain't gonna make America great again & is no better than the rest. He's just gonna sink it some more, thus ushering the one world government.
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He explain to the committee he's killed before and he's not afraid to do it again.
perfectly explained.👍
Salary of $33 million is just bonkers
I guess that's what it takes to buy one's conscience so he can face the public and tell bold-faced lies. Because not everybody can do it. I guess if the price is right, some people can say goodbye to their consciences. Disgusting.
Plenty of money to silence whistleblowers.
I think 1 million is more than enough, the other 32M could the 32,000 employes share
A few basketball players make more than that. Yet all they do is bounce a ball around.
@@anythinggoes5574
This CEO got 45% increase last year. The employees got 1% in 8 years and that's 8 yeras ago.
That's not the case with basketball players and thier CEO. But the Hype with in sports to day in general is crazy.
Using words like “elevate” and “gravity” while talking about a plane crash is wild.
And impact 😮
He says he's committed to resolving the concerns from employees but hasn't talked to one whistleblower? Yikes...
He has no intention of following up with anything he says.
"Ill get back to you with those numbers" Lies, Lies, and more Lies
Absolutely Disgusting this guy is WAY over paid
I feel the same way it’s absolutely crazy that we live in a society where these people are getting paid so much for doing little work compared to the people who are actually making the planes
@@leosmith5520Not just doing little work but basically covering up for bad work! Yes, utterly disgusting!!
My husband was a safety guy at a manufacturer. Retaliation is very real. All the way from the top to hourly employees.
This guy should be in jail.
Why?
@@simonkolo4368 why do you ask why? Do you work for Boeing and are now trying to silence me?
@@Snorlax_808you have no reason lmao. What illegal activities were Dave Calhoun involved in. He replaced the CEOs who were involved in the MAX.
@simonkolo4368 why are you asking why?
As someone who has worked for Boeing and was also fired by them (mind you I've never been fired before, rather I've received high remarks during previous employments), I could assure everyone that Dave Calhoun is being extremely evasive/deceitful with statements such as him/Boeing prioritizing safety and being against retaliation of whistleblowers. Not that it would come to anyone's surprise by now... but just saying from someone who has inside knowledge, Boeing's "Just Culture" was quite the dystopian place where management would "talk" to you verbally so there's no paper trail, combined with most employees that are just dead inside but believe religiously how Boeing's the best company on the planet.
I don't know how to explain it, but out of all my years of job hopping, that place gave me the creeps cause the only employees that have dedicated their careers to Boeing and were still there, were absolutely 'zombiefied'. Like, think of the Company Man back when pensions were a thing, but now remove essentially all experience, skill, personality, culture out of them, completely strip them of everything that would make those employees "human", and that's basically the modern day backbone of Boeing. The vast majority of these employees, if they were to leave Boeing tomorrow, they'd have absolute zero marketable skills to be able to find another job, which only further adds to their 'loyalty' to Boeing. It really was very sad and depressing working there. Like I said at the beginning, I've never been fired before, and for Boeing to fire me because I'm in the military and needed to perform my annual military obligations, in a weird way I do appreciate the silver lining of my termination because who knows what would've happened if they didn't fire me. I got bills I gotta pay, and wouldn't have left because of my need for an income. Like, how does that saying go? "If you stick around long enough, you'll see yourself turn into the villain."
Also, when you hear of Dave Calhoun mentioning how "Safety and Quality" are very important to him, Boeing, and Boeing's culture, I think it's very important for everyone to distinguish and have Boeing define if that safety culture revolves around building aircraft that are exceptionally safe..........or if "Safety at Boeing is top priority" is more akin to workplace safety, like from an OSHA perspective......... Does Boeing care about customer and traveler safety on their aircraft........ or you know, does Boeing not want to have to pay out worker's comp and so they'll establish an inhouse 'medical clinic' office with an on-duty nurse much like at an elementary school, and bring daily awareness to how important it is to not slip and fall in a warehouse floor if there's a puddle on the ground. Not saying, sharing, or otherwise disclosing anything specific on the matter, but you know... just food for thought on some questions I think might be worth someone asking and getting better clarification on Boeing's definition of Safety within their culture.................
Wow. I believe you!
100% what I heard from mechanics at Boeing. They lost the military to industry pipeline because they have created such a sour workplace. If there weren't just two manufacturers of commercial aircraft, Boeing would not be flying. The billboard would go back up "last one to leave, turn off the lights."
@@petgranny194 I hear there's so many disgruntled engineers because management would not listen to them regarding safety.
Boeing about to unalive another whistleblower
Instead of answering the questions, he is giving all this gibberish!!! POLITICS!!!! This is not about Boeing, People, Customers, etc. It seems that personal goals and gains are important whereas people are nothing. The fu.... salary, or compensation, in millions of dollars is the real interest, the lifestyle, and so on!!! It seems that nobody cares about the USA's "face," called Boeing!!! This is a reality!!!!
Boeing needs to headhunt a new CEO from Airbus.
It is a problem of having more lawyers than engineers. Boeing used to be the jewelry of Americans in technology. Cost cutting including laying off experienced workers, software dependence instead of complimenting mechanical functions, and outsourcing may be at the core of this problem.
You got blood in your hands.
Calhoun has an accounting degree. 1998 GE accident -> 2024 Alaska door (totally skipped the fatal Max flights). Speak up if you see a problem, but don't tell anyone you did??? And a new whistleblower was threatened right before this hearing... Calhoun: "Something went wrong" when a whistle-blower was threatened by his supervisor. Company needs to be on probation and FAA inspectors need to be more active with doing ACTUAL inspections. Self regulation clearly does NOT work. Boeing used to have its own machine shops rather than importing defective parts.
How about go to the factory and fix the problems instead of just talking about how bad Boeings are!
What?
I respect this hearing as a past employee who has a strong belief in our planes. The employees who lost their lives should be investigated!!
in before the latest whistle blower wakes up unalive.
Huh? I've only briefly worked in aviation PR and even I know that he shouldn't have referred to Alaska Airlines as an "accident". It wasn't an accident, it was an "incident" by way of aviation risk terminology.
Following the deaths of two Boeing whistleblowers, an attorney who represented them says there are at least 10 more who are determined to come forward.
Joshua Dean, a former quality auditor at Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems turned whistleblower, died last week after a sudden illness. His death came less than two months after another Boeing whistleblower, John Barnett, was found dead of a gunshot wound that authorities said appeared to be self-inflicted. --Newsweek
"I will break you."
@@petgranny194 I will mend you mate😁👍
Well he is still walking away with $30 million for all the good things that happened to Boeing in last few years.
He is being rewarded for his incompetence with an easy money seat on the board of the company after this.
He already makes a 30 million dollar salary
Yea it's outrageous 😮
How do you know?
@@sl4983it’s in the report
@@sl4983that Josh haw rly who I don’t always agree with but was absolutely right for calling him out and saying he’s being rewarded while the real men and women who make these planes are being equally rewarded
Hope we have not heard the last of Dennis Muillenburg.. He is the one that should go to jail for he was the CEO when the two
Max crashed.
He is a liar, they / he did not listen to anyone. He knows nothing about the company he supposedly runs. He should be well versed on absolutely everything! He speaks of a an employee survey.. what the actual hell!! He is the ceo and speaks of a general survey? As a response to planes falling out of the sky!! Ridiculous
This guy should be in jail, he's making 33m while their airplanes are falling from the skies.
With his bald head, they should send him to the moon without a spacesuit. 😁👍
What we see here is a guy earning his $33,000,000.00/year salary. He’s being compensated for taking the bullet for those who went before him. This is how corporations operate, the next guy will do exactly the same thing. The work required to get Boeing back to where it once was is unfathomablly HUGE. I want to listen to what the CORRECTIVE ACTION(S) will be…
14:21 Calhoun needs to go.
Human factors education in aviation is like 10+ years old 😂😂😂
14:14 That lady on the right is gonna get her $*# handed to her.
Corporate council?
It is amazing to watch this guy so blatantly lying to our face. Why isn't anyone talking about the 2 previous whistleblowers that have been persecuted then found dead, of especially suspicious accidents or"suicides"? I guess they have no concern for peoples lives, in the air or on the ground. Sociopaths and psychopaths seem to be filling too many positions of power these days and putting too many of us at risk! No one seems to be responsible for their actions anymore.
Greed over safety!
cut the crap. jail him
Lowest cost provider,lowest labor provider bigger profits margin for management.
I’m FULLY convinced Dave Calhoun was that spoiled rich kid who was given everything in life. He’s practically been protected from accountability given that golden parachute. Money talks, injustice walks!
I been trying to apply for weeks internally for a position I've done federally but still can't get through recruiters ie in quality related. But shot down via recruiters constantly.
Weren't the whistleblowers saying that the CEO specifically threatened them?
Has anyone been fired for retaliating on whistleblowers? Answer is no they still have jobs and or got a raise.
Whistleblowers are always retaliated against. No matter where you work. People’s jobs are on the line regardless of the cost.
Now there is a ceo that should have his compensation looked at.
... not the other guy that rode the stock price sky high.
“Speak up if they see a problem” means speak up and you get smoked
This CEO knows how to handle to whistleblowers
Wow. Didn’t realize this CEO is THIS incompetent. Why is he not leaving NOW?
When an accounts person is heading an engineering company, this will happen.
Lack of quality in the building of ,everything. Quality cost money, that they won't pay for. Boeing is going lean manufacturing, that dose not promote quality
100%. They are more willing to cut cost at every corner for the sake of maximizing profits as fast as possible.
Can anyone explain to me why I usually see these CEOs being questioned by the senators? It has never occurred in my country.
Because this is liberal and free speech. The people need the answers from these guys
Because the company is regulated by the Government and in America the Government works for the people. Constitutionally, the people are entitled to know when a company runs afoul of the regulatory process.
Profits > Quality
Now i know why the company is broke. The ceo and management getting it all 😂
„Something went wrong.“
When something „goes wrong“, the responsible party will do everything to correct the wrongdoing, not make it a policy to ignore it for years.
David Calhoun is a billionaire which include all the stocks he owns. Most of the CEOs are billionaires - Look at Google's CEO's net worth "Pichai's net worth is reputedly above $1.3 billion. In 2022, Pichai got $226 million in salary and stock awards in the form of performance-based or restricted stocks". This is not a fair.
I've been a pilot since 1997, I'm ashamed of this display of idiocy.
Johnson bringing up "DEI" is gross
He should have to pay reparations to all of the families of people who were affected by those crashes. Take away this man’s blood money
He sure talks the talk but can he get the doing done? As an IT engineer myself I don't think he understands the slightest thing about engineering. His statement "the design of an aircraft starts with an engineering effort" is very telling.
This is what happens when
you put an MBA in charge of an engineering company.
@@laurah1291 Exactly!
This guy should be fired and put in jail. He should be criminally prosecuted.
My man in the cover picture standing as if he were gonna drop his next album with metro boomin
BOM BOM BOM!😁👍
Employees probably mad because he was getting paid so much they probably didn’t do quality control better ….bottom line is if you have your employees back they will have your back….
They need an engineer as CEO again!!!
Fired them all
As the sucker CEO testifies, the Boeing starliner is continuing leaking helium…
Per who?
No apologies to the Ethiopian Airlines victims?
Couldn't merk this whistle blower in time i guess 🤷😅
he is a liar he retaliated
Lies lies and more lies! Money is the worst drug in the world!
This man should have been in prison for 6 years along with many others. However, he is still given the opportunity to pompously lie and dodge. As the classic of communism said, the abolition of justice destroys the state. This is the very case.
Who’s apply for Boeing jobs right now? Now is the time
We ALL have been listening to the hearing....Not card readers with stipulative agendas
Even Bob Newhart's Grace L. Ferguson Airline (And Storm Door) Co. would have done a better job building safe passenger jets than Boeing did with the 737-Max.
Grace Ferguson would be more transparent about it all too. Hell, she had concern for the storm door right there in the name.
Maybe Boeing should be sold & re-branded: the "Boeing Airplane & Storm Door Company".
Motto: We promise we'll keep the storm door shut this time!
At this point just buy China's Comac C19 probably 100 X safer then anything made by Boeing.
Not 1 idea from the stand down was used. lol
Some whistle-blowers and dead now. I don't think they should have to meet alone 😮
If its Boeing I'm not going. AirBus for the win. 😊
How many more people have to DIE before somebody, actually, does something to stop the LIES . . . NOTHING HAS CHANGED !!!
This guy looks like Bruce Willis
This guy is nothing more than a weasel and his salary is beyond obnoxious.
lol what kind of company is this, they beat up whistle blowers😅
they created new Human Factors group?! Really, they did not have before?
To be or not to be?
Hallo Chillieepepper, it's hotsalt ere😁👍
Feed gone down…bit like their planes sadly RIP
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RESIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!
DEI? Also, it starts at the top and trickles down. Any lack of morality, integrity, etc will trickle down and affect the whole working environment.
Ya feeling so bad (33mil salary) care abt our workers to speak up ( Assassination of one of the whistleblowers)
Some jailtime will really make the change, it is the only way💫
I promised with my self and
Heaven. Eventually, cheap pay or worse boss but my mind still do the best thing on my job . Because company soaring up and up I feel happy. In fact , door was blown out . I no word to say for who completely that doors in that day . Who doesn’t care passengers and crew people on that board . So bad minds
The feed just happened to cut out? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............
90 day plan is goblygook LOL Sounds the work instructions the mechanics and QA have to try to understand.
This guy will most likely be Trump's secretary of defense if he's re-elected.
Disgusting
Lockheed better
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What is the cause of the problem? Our collective greed. So let's not blame the CEO. He is merely acting in accordance with our desires as shareholders. Essentially, he has done everything right. We, the shareholders, are the ones who should be on the stand. Isn't that so?
A CEO with integrity (a stretch) would stand up to shareholders - CEO should protect the longevity of the company.
Must have not donated enough to biden.
10% to the big guy
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TRUMP 2024!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trump is bought & paid opposition. He ain't gonna make America great again & is no better than the rest. He's just gonna sink it some more, thus ushering the one world government.
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Stupid cbs news.
He is one of few folks that can payy off every corrupt person there is that exist.
why paid to much for ceo jobs , they are oldest , why not younger people, smart and new tech,,,, and salary 2/3 millions
$$$TAXPAYERS, He gets YOUR $$$$$. YEP, BONUS fro the TAXPAYERS $$$
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