I tested Freeride vs. Freerace vs. Slalom Sails. Here's what I found out.

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  • @SirKilmore001
    @SirKilmore001 Рік тому +14

    Like the commentary straight from the water, trying to explain what you feel and think comes over very honest and genuine. Shows how excited you are to teach and share this knowledge. Kudos

  • @ScrattleGG
    @ScrattleGG Рік тому +9

    Fantastic video nico. Thank you for going the extra mile and getting the designers on here, it really makes a difference

  • @alejandrort439
    @alejandrort439 Рік тому +7

    That video is by far one of the best material related video I've ever seen. Congrats!

  • @treyschwartz3966
    @treyschwartz3966 Рік тому +3

    Thanks again Nico! You have brought together your viewers, my favorite pro windsurfers(yourself and Sebastian Kornum), my favorite sail(the V8) and now my favorite sail designer Robert Stroj!

  • @speedquestwindsurfing
    @speedquestwindsurfing Рік тому +8

    I use NP sails and JP boards as well. It was like watching myself windsurfing except you are way better and not fat.

  • @reneruijgrok8066
    @reneruijgrok8066 Рік тому +4

    Thanks Nico, this gives more insight in these type of sails. I specially liked it to hear it from a designer’s point of view. I am now sure the no-cam free ride sails are the best for me 😅

  • @dairyairman
    @dairyairman Рік тому +1

    That was great having the designer in the video! Really insightful. Like you were talking about in the video, I've noticed that pure race sails feel like they have no upper limit. As the wind picks up they don't get overpowered. They just keep going faster!

  • @paulmertz6666
    @paulmertz6666 Рік тому +4

    Nico, I really enjoy these "comparison" videos. Here is another idea...I would like to see a comparison between a Freeride fin, weed fin like you used in Hatteras, and a slalom fin.

  • @yannickdel56
    @yannickdel56 Рік тому +5

    Good video Nico ! Your point of vue combined with Robert vision is very interesting. I'm agree with you and each one have to choose the right sail according to his level, confort and budget.
    And thanks to show us blue and flat water, sun, racing jibe 😎😎 (It's not the same in NW France actually !)

  • @jeroenhessel7535
    @jeroenhessel7535 Рік тому +2

    Super clear explanation Nico, thanks. I've been sailing NP myself for years and have an 8.2 V8, and a Speedster 6.7. Because of the freeride feeling of the speedster I can play and jump a bit more with it.
    While the cams and extra profile of the V8 provide more speed in lighter winds.

  • @tonyk1002
    @tonyk1002 Рік тому +3

    Great presentation format and content Nico 😎

  • @Nico_GER7
    @Nico_GER7  Рік тому +3

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    Reach out to us at www.surf-center.com/

  • @sodergrenfamilyvideos434
    @sodergrenfamilyvideos434 Рік тому +2

    Very interesting! What an art and science there is in the sail's design and manufacturing.

  • @simongodfrey3765
    @simongodfrey3765 Рік тому +2

    Excellent Nico, really informative, thanks!

  • @surf6446
    @surf6446 Рік тому +4

    New vid🔥🔥, same thing what surf magazin today done.(also with np)

  • @szelinpeng8705
    @szelinpeng8705 Рік тому +3

    Great video and stoked u r back w JP n Neil Pryde! Question re: 6.2 speedster- i got a 2022 version but have a 430 np mast.. recommended mast is 400. Will the 430 work?

  • @galensk
    @galensk Рік тому +1

    Great comparison and nice wndsurfing shots from the kite-cameraman 🤙🤙🤙

  • @stefanvondernull8420
    @stefanvondernull8420 Рік тому +2

    Hey Nico, thank you very much for that video. Very good and very useful. Now I need the money to buy some RS Racing sails 😂. THX. Cheers Stefan

  • @jeroen-surf
    @jeroen-surf Рік тому +3

    Again a high quality video! Looking forward to the next one. Quick question, what app do you use on you apple watch ultra when windsurfing? Thanks!

  • @kkbrs
    @kkbrs Рік тому +1

    Very good video, informative, to the point, clear, loved it. Great work as always, thanks!

  • @MLCHZG
    @MLCHZG Рік тому

    Very nice Video Nico... One more thing to say about the RS EVO Racing sails: Compared to all the other Brands out there, the RS Evo Racing sails do still use a special way to fix the cambers inside the mast pocket. The cambers used by Neilpryde are fixed / equiped with small seperate lines inside the pocket, which allowes them to rotate much softer an easier compared to other sails i feel. This is very unique and why i especially love the RS Evo's... just awesome handling and easy to Trimm, by really fast in strong winds due to the high aspect ratio design .... and much easier to use for not such expert Race Sail users to get the sail trimmed well.

  • @romanschumacher7733
    @romanschumacher7733 Рік тому +1

    great video Nico! I love my JP supersport 125l from 2018 and my Neilpryde V8 sails I look forward to finally being able to drive them again soon 🤩

  • @florianbauch3581
    @florianbauch3581 Рік тому +2

    Yet another great video. Thanks. Probably the Ryde was left out as this is a pure FR- sail not a performance FR-sail. Recreational sailors will look at the Ryde or even the Fusion...
    As far as the comment of Robert Stroj goes concerning the cam positioning @V8 I am not sure I agree. The Ezzy Lion is a twin cam sail (no x-button concept) with both cams sitting underneath the boom and a very soft transitioning of the cams. You have to look at the overall concept...
    Used to ride my V8 10.5 from 2001 with a comparably narrower sleeve which was quite nice but not that much speed orientated. When I updated in 2005 I decided to stick to the sail designer (Barry Spanier) who designed the GTX for Gaastra as I liked the design concept.
    Will head in a week to Soma Bay and the NPSpeedster 7.2/7.7/8.2 will be my go to sails for the lighter days to have fun. Keep it up Nico.

  • @mikkelherstal9102
    @mikkelherstal9102 Рік тому +2

    One of the best videos you have made

  • @PeterPlaunt
    @PeterPlaunt Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video review. I have a 8V and love it, would like to try the Speedster. How about a comparison with a Foil sail next. Waiting for the ice to get off my lake were in western Canada

  • @tookwik401
    @tookwik401 Рік тому +5

    Could be interesting to test the same sail with different masts isn't it ? (like the speedster with 60% of carbon, 80% of carbon and 100% of carbon. Same with the V8. Not for the RSR, I mean it's not worthy to buy this kind of sail without a hundred mast !)

  • @keytes
    @keytes Рік тому +1

    Very interesting and informative, thank you

  • @lchiner
    @lchiner Рік тому +3

    just a question Nico, this video was filmed in South Africa, home of the great white shark, why you're so confident that you'll not hit it, or worse it will not hit you, you've plenty of videos filmed from drones, of great whites patrolling in shallow waters like those

  • @millenium7725
    @millenium7725 Рік тому +1

    Oh great video, this rly helped with choosing for my next sail😊

  • @mixxnitro7797
    @mixxnitro7797 Рік тому

    Really needed this, just got into the sport and don't really know much

  • @teakekloosterman1473
    @teakekloosterman1473 Рік тому

    Your enthusiasm for the sport helped me get back on the board this year. And I actually bought the JP Super sport board hoping to pick it up next week. Should be quit the change from my Starboard Carve. Thanks

  • @elliottaylor8344
    @elliottaylor8344 Рік тому +1

    Another great video
    It would be good to see the diffrence between a free ride sail board and fin
    Compared to a full race no compromise
    Setup

  • @craigleonard9243
    @craigleonard9243 Рік тому +1

    Love my old V8 in 9.0 😊😊🇲🇽⛵️ great video Nico👍

  • @c__d0ao990
    @c__d0ao990 Рік тому +1

    Nice video, now I just want to win the evo even more, haven't sailed a NP race sail since the vx3... now sailing Warps! Conver me 😂

  • @gianmarcoboretto1730
    @gianmarcoboretto1730 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video, Nico!

  • @theoutsider6191
    @theoutsider6191 11 місяців тому

    Yeah for sure windsurfing is a great fun sport, particularly in conditions like those, and with good kit. I had a 6m RS Race sail from maybe 2002 I think and it was super stable at full chat, way more so than any non camber sail I used. NP kit was always my favourite as well. tried various others over the years, but the best I ever used was my 6m RS race sail. Awesome bit of kit.

  • @jeffpop9036
    @jeffpop9036 Рік тому

    Great to see you racing on the foil and doing really well.

  • @nicolassorrel
    @nicolassorrel Рік тому

    Thank you, another awesome video. Helps understand more about our amazing sport
    !

  • @mqrten
    @mqrten Рік тому +1

    Great content as always! 🤙

  • @berniste3855
    @berniste3855 Рік тому +2

    Klasse Vergleich👍habe selbst die 3 Modelle, verschiedene Bj. das 7,7 Speedster ist mein absolutes Lieblings Segel ❤ Wind technisch leider viel zu wenig im Einsatz

  • @Lindhofguitar
    @Lindhofguitar Рік тому +2

    Great test :-). Less than two knots of difference between the no cam freeride and the four cam racer is not that much. And surprisingly the pure race sail had the slowest speed in average over 20 seconds... Anyway this test takes place in quite ideal conditions - everything is fast here. In heavy shifty winds and harsh chop the stability, range and average speed of a cammed sail is unbeatable - if you are out there to go fast.

    • @Nico_GER7
      @Nico_GER7  Рік тому +1

      20 seconds probably because I did not do runs long enough

  • @kristianstanev5248
    @kristianstanev5248 Рік тому +1

    Incredible video 🎉

  • @FrancoisTCS
    @FrancoisTCS Рік тому +1

    Very nice video with good content. I also think we miss a few points and would like to know what you think about them. Disclaimer, I only sail free race sails with camber since 25years :
    - vs the non cam sails they keep their speed longer in the lull, thanks to the induce profile by the cambers. True or false?
    - vs the non cam sails after a certain speed they take advantage of the induced profile and the apparent wind to pull you. True or false?
    - vs the full race sails they can’t reach same upwind angle. True or false?
    - vs the full race sails you can’t close them on the deck, therefore does not look as nice. True or false?
    Looking forward to start the season here in Sweden, with decent temperatures.

  • @512k
    @512k Рік тому +1

    I bought by « error » a second hand 2008 rsr 6,2 on a x9, it is my favorite sail. I dont have the level to use it but I really like the stability and instant boost of the sail in the gusts.

  • @danbodalski2955
    @danbodalski2955 Рік тому

    Great review! Thank you

  • @kemit9154
    @kemit9154 Рік тому

    Thats a great video! Especially the speed comparisions really mean a lot :) I have an idea for another video possibly - after a long research over the internet I would still struggle to tell what's the influence of carbon fibre in boom on the slalom performance :) And boom is a really expensive part of equipment at the same time. Does it really give you better acceleration and much better top speed? Maybe it's worth to spend the money on better fin or extra board size :) For now I use alu race booms even for my slalom rigs, mostly because of the budget limitations. I plan to buy a corbon boom next season but I'm not really sure what to choose. I would love to see something like a "guide to collect equipment for faster slalom sailing". A list of priorities if you want to make your equipment faster :) cheers!

  • @jos_t_band3912
    @jos_t_band3912 Рік тому +3

    Does anybody know what is the speed record for no cam sails? Nobody knows.

  • @aliatia582
    @aliatia582 Рік тому +1

    U living the life man ❤ keep 🆙

  • @jeriksson7686
    @jeriksson7686 Рік тому

    Great video! and confirms my feeling that non camber sails are easier to handle

  • @timtrillwood5768
    @timtrillwood5768 Рік тому

    Fantastic video Nico,

  • @ongsoochong5189
    @ongsoochong5189 Рік тому +1

    Excellent user input as always. But please change your cameraman if he dont think ws rips.

  • @bohvasspedersen4834
    @bohvasspedersen4834 Рік тому +1

    Niiiiiice footage 🙂

  • @marcelmuldertje
    @marcelmuldertje Рік тому +1

    Great video, but really so the V8 is between the Speedster and RS Evo? How unexpected ;) :) And how can you put a 40 cm fin on a 111/70 ? Yes off course it planes with 7.2 but would be far more interesting to see the speed difference with a smaller fin. Sorry but I preferred your so non commercial content. Just a critical note, keep up the good work and hang loose!

  • @lardov1
    @lardov1 Рік тому +2

    What masts were used? I would like to know on plus 7. Still Rdm or sdm better

    • @Nico_GER7
      @Nico_GER7  Рік тому +1

      We used SDMs. I believe that for sails above 7m that's better.

  • @surfavision1697
    @surfavision1697 Рік тому

    Nice spot for speed comparasion

  • @Tony-lc7op
    @Tony-lc7op Рік тому +1

    thanks

  • @ecki3
    @ecki3 Рік тому +1

    16:00 Nico's shoulder muscle looks like his father made him practice shotstarting with a 50KG rig for 2 years before he was allowed to practice on his formula board. 😅

  • @wisecoonie
    @wisecoonie Рік тому +1

    Hey Nico, great video as always. Beautiful to watch and really informative. Just a well-meant remark: the Speedster has seven battens, not eight. Btw, I scored a beautiful (2nd hand) JP Supersport 122 y2020 last november, can’t wait to get it on the water! 🥰

    • @Nico_GER7
      @Nico_GER7  Рік тому

      Of course!! You're right.
      As do all our racing sails. Small mix up there 😬

  • @erictranchant4814
    @erictranchant4814 Рік тому

    Nice tests.
    Where is the spot where you makes this tests ?

  • @sharewavestv
    @sharewavestv Рік тому +1

    Wenn der Level Deiner Videos schon Thema beim 2.größten UA-cam-Kanal ist, dann ist man wohl auf einem guten Weg 😉

  • @Peeter77
    @Peeter77 Рік тому +1

    The Guy from UK told that freeride sails up to 6.x m2. And cammed sails for 7 and up. I'm a 100 kg sailor and I prefer 3 cammed free race sails cause they feel more stable.

  • @elmanuel472
    @elmanuel472 Рік тому

    Great video! However you compare best speed for 2 seconds... Surprisingly, best speed for 500 and 1000 meters goes to the Speedster - which might be more relevant for most recreational windsurfers 🤙🏼

    • @Nico_GER7
      @Nico_GER7  Рік тому

      My speed runs were too short to use the longer distances as comparison…

  • @simonjandrell5897
    @simonjandrell5897 Рік тому

    i got 3 North Slalom Sails 9.3,9.6,9.8 Warps and they are faultless..

  • @michelletran7852
    @michelletran7852 Рік тому +1

    My next Hollidays ❤.

  • @surfboard2377
    @surfboard2377 Рік тому +1

    Nico, can you please make a video about how to waterstart a 4 cam racesail?

    • @Nico_GER7
      @Nico_GER7  Рік тому

      Always go from the top, so the water can run out at the bottom. Have you seen my waterstart tutorial?

    • @surfboard2377
      @surfboard2377 Рік тому

      Yes, I watched your tutorial. I have got the problem that if there are higher waves and less wind (like at lake garda during ora )I don't get enough wind into the sail to shift the battens. So if i crash in the jibe the camberbattens aren't always all on the same side and if the cambers aren't on the same side the sailprofil isn't good enough to waterstart. Do you know the problem and do you have a solution?

    • @surfboard2377
      @surfboard2377 Рік тому

      ​@@Nico_GER7so do you undersrand my Problem?

  • @유잭-k4r
    @유잭-k4r Рік тому

    이게 컨텐츠지 ㅋㅋ
    굿굿
    하이드로 포일 비교도 해주라

  • @peterfuzz3887
    @peterfuzz3887 3 місяці тому

    what sizes ??

  • @mariofun14
    @mariofun14 Рік тому +1

    I loved the comments from the sail designer❤

  • @leisepinkler
    @leisepinkler Рік тому +1

    Mit Dir würde ich ja gerne mal für einen Tag tauschen… dann habe ich wohl Muskelkater für eine Woche 🤣

    • @Nico_GER7
      @Nico_GER7  Рік тому +2

      Habe ich ja selbst schon 😂

  • @jonkayaci
    @jonkayaci Рік тому

    which app u use on the watch nico?

  • @nilsbuer
    @nilsbuer Рік тому

    I really like you videos. But comparing a 7.2 m2 to a 7.4 m2 is a bit unfair. I like the V8 much much more than the Speedster.

  • @ghughes20
    @ghughes20 Рік тому +1

    I'd love a V8 some day.

  • @vallsz
    @vallsz Рік тому

    i was proud of my 10kt max speed until i saw this video :D

    • @Nico_GER7
      @Nico_GER7  Рік тому

      Haha! Still be proud and own it 😬

  • @TIT111
    @TIT111 Рік тому +3

    First

    • @Nico_GER7
      @Nico_GER7  Рік тому +1

      Nice!!

    • @TIT111
      @TIT111 Рік тому

      @@Nico_GER7yu are the best windsurfer

  • @6977202865
    @6977202865 Рік тому

    So, the best is the cheapest! Ha!
    For recreational windsurfers get a cheap and you will be ok! ;)

  • @Floatnride
    @Floatnride Рік тому +1

    I ride an old RS I love it. Sadly I think its on its last days, So this video is super helpful, I think I could come down and settle in at the v8.

  • @james972971
    @james972971 Рік тому +2

    More than 30 knots with a 40 cm G10 fin and no cam sail, too strong @nico_ger7. No one will be able to follow you on #PWA this year...

  • @williamtech4668
    @williamtech4668 Рік тому

    but... what about just the "Lowest tier" Freeride sail!?!?! Just asking for a friend :P I mean the "Freeride Ryde" sail

    • @Nico_GER7
      @Nico_GER7  Рік тому

      Yup, could also be interesting.