I thought I was one of the few people who had a practical thought process when it comes to overcoming violence. I'm glad I'm not alone. As far as injuring a person before disabling a joint. We called it, no aiki without atemi, meaning no technique without striking.
Aha! There's the nugget of gold that I was after. The discussion about pedagogy which is the exact mirror of every teacher in every subject (everyone goes through having to re-motivate themselves and find thngs to learn to stave off becoming stale) and the checking with the world around to ensure that what you are doing is (still) relevant and produces good results in/for the people you are teaching. I'm curious about the different styles that individuals within this field have. Some move in a very fast and jerky manner. With some of those my guess is that they learned to behave like that through learning (modern) Karate. Mr Miller moves (and talks) in a more relaxed and flowing style which I suspect may have something to do with his Judo background. Mr Miller and Mr Larkin both teach movements in a flowing style, with some difference in mental attitude while learning (Miller - play and enjoyment, Larkin - unemotional concentration). If you have an interest in this aspect it is worth digging out the footage of W.E. Fairbairn teaching. You can find at least some of it on UA-cam. Very relaxed style. And considering how capably violent he was that's very much worth studying. Also noted that Mr Miller had the disagreement with his Filipino Martial Arts friend/instructor about rhythm. I suspect that would be worth looking into for the details. Mr Miller is not your average 'stiff and immobile American' with no flow and no rhythm so the problem he picked out may be specific to him.
I know that scenario of a place held in check by threat of violence. I worked cage crew at night clubs for MMA Fights. You always had the nicest group in a bar. With so much talent around, no one got out of hand.
Tim, thanks for your humility and willingness to expose your audience to great voices like RM. I am loving my Platinum Membership and all of the excellent training.
"one of the reasons, I think, that we do self-defence training is to make more strong people because they’re just way less annoying than weak people.” Brilliant. Exactly why I work in the gym - not self-defence, barbells, but it's the same principle in this respect. A few hundred pounds on your back humbles you.
I love Rory Millers writings...have read his books and seen his videos, which somehow led me to TFT which is great. Best of Both Worlds. I remember with some of his class offerings, Rory would have people meet at a closed Bar or Restaurant for the Training session, to more assimilate an environment one might be in when needing to protect yourself--I think he also did an empty parking lot meeting place too...either way "Meditations on Violence" is a definite Must Read. Thanks for doing this.
These are awesome! Tim, your story about the Marines is horrific, somebody was instilling a concept of "fair play" into supposed "combat training," and that is incredibly dangerous. Combat's not about fairness, ask the residents of Nagasaki or Dresden. Very powerful example. Thank you for introducing me to Mr. Miller's work. I am sharing the heck out of these with my shooting students.
Tim as a trophy hunh? I can see that would be so. Let me tell you that these interviews and your recommendation about the boxing book have been great stuff. Thanx.
Well I know nothing. Love Rory Miller and plying atm through one of his books..... still a lot of this self defence stuff does seem a bit complicated. Most of us just need training against a pub brawl type situation. Hands up, guard against the big overhand right, move in and one two!
I think the reason the biker gang he describes is so safe is because the hierarchies among the men are very esablished and also there are not a lot of women around (as he described it). Put women into that equation and then add unsecure hierarchies - ie. guys don't know where they stand in the hierarchy and watch it kick off.
Great stuff. Quirky body mechanics are taught as two first basic techniques of Daito ryu. It is good when some one with so much experience indirectly validates a traditional martial art and its principles.
The Chiron crew (Rory's guys) talk about that extensively. I've been in class with Rory and heard him say "Anyone that trained for any period of time is a bag of old injuries".
Rhythm; I think that you and your buddy are both correct. Two answers being the same. You must know timing and when to use it. Use certain timing techniques to the situation that needs it. Timing is more than rhythm. And everything is rhythm. Just broken timing at some points. Instead of 1&2 it might be &3& or 4+ah. All different timing but the same rhythm when not put to a click.
True about other countries. There is a natural order of speed and mass as per the science of physics. Therefore one should pull their head out of their a$$ when crossing a street. That applies universally, but in America, we are raised to feel special and impune to natural laws.
Larkin Sensei, I’m a big fan of your vids and crucial info but wonder if you’ve ever checked out Sogobujutsu. It’s my Sensei’s science and he doesn’t teach anymore however he broke upwards of twelve bones learning the nuances and may want to exchange information. He has a UA-cam channel and if you care I highly suggest you look at the trailers. Fantastic stuff and not bullshito😉
@@tatumergo3931 fella…. Why??? Have you seen anything of Godaishin dojo?? I’m not telling Larkin Sensei to abandon his system. He KNOWS combat but maybe he can compare notes because my Sensei also HATES anything “arty” about what should be scientific and martialy.
@@tatumergo3931 I can’t argue that Larkin Sensei knows what’s affective but that doesn’t cancel out 2,000 years of JAPANESE warrior refinement. Watch all the vids you want on our channel. It’s fun! You even with all your grand wisdom will get something. My Sensei took only what NEVER got people killed in Samurai/Ninja tradition so maaaybe there IS reason to compare notes.🤷♂️
@@tatumergo3931 brother… 😌 We were NOT “mma” or anything close to that. Sogobujutsu took only what NEVER failed a man who was needed to KILL others on the battlefield. Not a street fighter or cage fighter. The sciences speak for themselves. I took Peter Quok’s system of Shaolin under different people and and found no reason to persist after I started Sogobudo. Nobody could tell me the reason or science but told me to endure despite having no other disciplines under they’re belt but practicing it longer than half their life! I did Sogo for a year and a half compared to my other martial training. Arguably the best tai quan do ;”(sorry for spelling) guy in NY… Kung fu guys of all sorts(shaolin, wing chun) I have no reason to get upety because my ego IS smashed but you have no reason to troll on me for asking Larkin Sensei to look into what I’ve learned. I have no doubt he is a genuine badass and I’ve read of him in blackbelt even a few years before I did Sogobujutsu so I respect his system but he probably also doesn’t need us stinking up his board with petty arguments. 🤷♂️🙏
@@faxaboutdavaxatbanneddotvi8716 if it was 3 antifa goons you could probably throw them just like that. But 3 real BLM goons you better have a more realistic approach to defending yourself.
It's interesting Rory mentions body mechanics. If you take the art of Systema, it's all about body mechanics. In fact, the Russian special forces guys the Spetnaz train everyday in this self defence system. Thankfully, it is not a sport, it's designed for real world situations. Tim, I would love you to do a video on it. Love your channel mate. Keep up the excellent work.
The greatest way to compliment your teacher is to surpass him in what he has taught you.
I love the emphasis on proper social behavior and respect towards others.
I thought I was one of the few people who had a practical thought process when it comes to overcoming violence. I'm glad I'm not alone.
As far as injuring a person before disabling a joint. We called it, no aiki without atemi, meaning no technique without striking.
Aha! There's the nugget of gold that I was after. The discussion about pedagogy which is the exact mirror of every teacher in every subject (everyone goes through having to re-motivate themselves and find thngs to learn to stave off becoming stale) and the checking with the world around to ensure that what you are doing is (still) relevant and produces good results in/for the people you are teaching.
I'm curious about the different styles that individuals within this field have. Some move in a very fast and jerky manner. With some of those my guess is that they learned to behave like that through learning (modern) Karate. Mr Miller moves (and talks) in a more relaxed and flowing style which I suspect may have something to do with his Judo background. Mr Miller and Mr Larkin both teach movements in a flowing style, with some difference in mental attitude while learning (Miller - play and enjoyment, Larkin - unemotional concentration).
If you have an interest in this aspect it is worth digging out the footage of W.E. Fairbairn teaching. You can find at least some of it on UA-cam. Very relaxed style. And considering how capably violent he was that's very much worth studying.
Also noted that Mr Miller had the disagreement with his Filipino Martial Arts friend/instructor about rhythm. I suspect that would be worth looking into for the details. Mr Miller is not your average 'stiff and immobile American' with no flow and no rhythm so the problem he picked out may be specific to him.
I know that scenario of a place held in check by threat of violence. I worked cage crew at night clubs for MMA Fights. You always had the nicest group in a bar. With so much talent around, no one got out of hand.
Tim, thanks for your humility and willingness to expose your audience to great voices like RM. I am loving my Platinum Membership and all of the excellent training.
Ego gets you there but once you’re there, if you don’t let go, you peaked. After that you’re Chu Chun. Honorary.
This was gold. Thanks.
Decision stick! Exactly
"one of the reasons, I think, that we do self-defence training is to make more strong people because they’re just way less annoying than weak people.”
Brilliant. Exactly why I work in the gym - not self-defence, barbells, but it's the same principle in this respect. A few hundred pounds on your back humbles you.
I love Rory Millers writings...have read his books and seen his videos, which somehow led me to TFT which is great. Best of Both Worlds. I remember with some of his class offerings, Rory would have people meet at a closed Bar or Restaurant for the Training session, to more assimilate an environment one might be in when needing to protect yourself--I think he also did an empty parking lot meeting place too...either way "Meditations on Violence" is a definite Must Read. Thanks for doing this.
Excellent, thanks for tons of reality
These are awesome! Tim, your story about the Marines is horrific, somebody was instilling a concept of "fair play" into supposed "combat training," and that is incredibly dangerous. Combat's not about fairness, ask the residents of Nagasaki or Dresden. Very powerful example. Thank you for introducing me to Mr. Miller's work. I am sharing the heck out of these with my shooting students.
your intervews are top noch tim and i appreciate the info you present Blessings to you🙂
Tim... you're on point with your videos. Great Stuff!!! and your book aint bad either Lolol... Thanks again for your hard work
This has been such a mind blowing session. So much I could say - tons of personal experiences in similar! Wow!
I really enjoyed this and alot of food for thought.
Awesome stuff.
Tim as a trophy hunh? I can see that would be so. Let me tell you that these interviews and your recommendation about the boxing book have been great stuff. Thanx.
My dad always told me to know the difference between being a fighter and a hunter.
The greatest compliment you can give your Guru/Sensei/Sifu/Master Is to surpass their ability
Keep it up fellas. Share your experience
Well I know nothing. Love Rory Miller and plying atm through one of his books..... still a lot of this self defence stuff does seem a bit complicated. Most of us just need training against a pub brawl type situation. Hands up, guard against the big overhand right, move in and one two!
I think the reason the biker gang he describes is so safe is because the hierarchies among the men are very esablished and also there are not a lot of women around (as he described it). Put women into that equation and then add unsecure hierarchies - ie. guys don't know where they stand in the hierarchy and watch it kick off.
Great stuff. Quirky body mechanics are taught as two first basic techniques of Daito ryu. It is good when some one with so much experience indirectly validates a traditional martial art and its principles.
Another - incredible perspective.
It’s tough changing this passive Christian based mindset.
Have either one of you have aches from old injuries.
The Chiron crew (Rory's guys) talk about that extensively. I've been in class with Rory and heard him say "Anyone that trained for any period of time is a bag of old injuries".
Rhythm; I think that you and your buddy are both correct. Two answers being the same. You must know timing and when to use it. Use certain timing techniques to the situation that needs it. Timing is more than rhythm. And everything is rhythm. Just broken timing at some points. Instead of 1&2 it might be &3& or 4+ah. All different timing but the same rhythm when not put to a click.
True about other countries. There is a natural order of speed and mass as per the science of physics. Therefore one should pull their head out of their a$$ when crossing a street. That applies universally, but in America, we are raised to feel special and impune to natural laws.
Larkin Sensei, I’m a big fan of your vids and crucial info but wonder if you’ve ever checked out Sogobujutsu. It’s my Sensei’s science and he doesn’t teach anymore however he broke upwards of twelve bones learning the nuances and may want to exchange information. He has a UA-cam channel and if you care I highly suggest you look at the trailers. Fantastic stuff and not bullshito😉
@@tatumergo3931 fella…. Why??? Have you seen anything of Godaishin dojo?? I’m not telling Larkin Sensei to abandon his system. He KNOWS combat but maybe he can compare notes because my Sensei also HATES anything “arty” about what should be scientific and martialy.
@@tatumergo3931 I can’t argue that Larkin Sensei knows what’s affective but that doesn’t cancel out 2,000 years of JAPANESE warrior refinement. Watch all the vids you want on our channel. It’s fun! You even with all your grand wisdom will get something. My Sensei took only what NEVER got people killed in Samurai/Ninja tradition so maaaybe there IS reason to compare notes.🤷♂️
@@tatumergo3931 and throwing three people I still don’t get but if say… half a dozen BLM attacked you at once… 😔
@@tatumergo3931 brother… 😌 We were NOT “mma” or anything close to that. Sogobujutsu took only what NEVER failed a man who was needed to KILL others on the battlefield. Not a street fighter or cage fighter. The sciences speak for themselves. I took Peter Quok’s system of Shaolin under different people and and found no reason to persist after I started Sogobudo. Nobody could tell me the reason or science but told me to endure despite having no other disciplines under they’re belt but practicing it longer than half their life! I did Sogo for a year and a half compared to my other martial training. Arguably the best tai quan do ;”(sorry for spelling) guy in NY… Kung fu guys of all sorts(shaolin, wing chun) I have no reason to get upety because my ego IS smashed but you have no reason to troll on me for asking Larkin Sensei to look into what I’ve learned. I have no doubt he is a genuine badass and I’ve read of him in blackbelt even a few years before I did Sogobujutsu so I respect his system but he probably also doesn’t need us stinking up his board with petty arguments. 🤷♂️🙏
@@faxaboutdavaxatbanneddotvi8716 if it was 3 antifa goons you could probably throw them just like that. But 3 real BLM goons you better have a more realistic approach to defending yourself.
It's interesting Rory mentions body mechanics.
If you take the art of Systema, it's all about body mechanics.
In fact, the Russian special forces guys the Spetnaz train everyday in this self defence system.
Thankfully, it is not a sport, it's designed for real world situations.
Tim, I would love you to do a video on it.
Love your channel mate.
Keep up the excellent work.
Have you ever heard of Ed Calderon of ed's manifesto. Amazing dude he would fit well with this series.
...training them to be submissive. It's so easy to get upsidedown and backward.