Great fix and good to know. Your vids are never too long. If someone wants to skip a few bits to view different parts of the vid, then they should try that.
Early-mid 2000s. This one is newer than models like the SD-1600 and SD-1700, but those models also have the same problem, as did older models like the SD-1200 and the SD-2109. This is a common problem with Toshiba players from around that timeframe.
Sneaky hotwire :-D Plastic gears are a bloody pain in the arse! I have often thought that manufactures sabotage products. The electrolitic capacitors always mounted next to a heatsink, hmm.
Gosh, I remember when mp3 cd players started existing. I was an independent delivery driver that had to provide my own van and I had to dedicate the entire space in the back for cargo and so I went to a car audio store in a town I was delivering in and wanted to buy a head unit. I had already built a sub and had cheap pioneer coaxials(with soft dome tweeters) in the doors and some 5.1 panasonic surround sound speakers sitting on the dash. I went back and forth with the salesman about needing something with an input jack so I could plug in my MP3 player. He didn't have a single unit that had an input jack but recommended the Kenwood unit that had a removable flip down face and an MP3 cd player. It had a very basic screen but the man said they put all the money into the sound of the unit. It was true. I was able to high pass filter the speakers and send all the bass to the 600 watt amp that powered a custom bandpass 12" box that sat between my seats. It also had built in file cabinet where I was able to keep my documents and a surface where I could keep my laptop for microsoft maps(before the age of GPS). I was amazed that I could put 600 songs on a cd-r disc and play them all day long. One disc would keep me going all week long. Country on monday to Rap on friday. Another thing that was great was that MP3 format had a massive buffer so that when you hit bumps in the road, you wouldn't get skipping which was common with regular cd players. Many had buffers but were either really expensive or not enough buffer to handle Michigan roads.
I have that same kenwood cd player with mp3 with the flip over face. The catch broke so it wont stay closed. Was in my old car and I swapped it out for a JVC with MP3. Its around here somewhere. I should look for it and see if it still works. Had a Sony Xplod as well but it went tits up.
@12voltvids Great video! I was hoping to get some advice from you. This little gear slips off the shaft. It's not cracked. Visually okay. What would you recommend to make the gear stay on the shaft?
Bloody great idea. Would you believe that I actually managed to purchase some 'New' OEM capstan motor pulleys (Sankyo) for the old Mitsubishi 'F' deck. HS-M59 (UK model). Completely rebuilt the machine after one of your videos featuring the same mechanism.
2 videos? Wonderful!! Great stuff. I think I asked before, and forgot the answer: why don't they use metal gears? Cost? Planned breakdown? Less noisy? I notice they use plastic or nylon gears on almost everything. Or it seems. Even mechanical clocks.
The answer from the manufacturer would be: because nylon gears don't need lubricants which dry out, attract dirt, save on costs so new devices are more affordable whatever. I personally think that it has all to do with planned obsolescence. This is why manufacturers switch between different mechs for different models. It used to be less uncommon up to the early nineties when most of the devices were designed to be serviced. The sad story is that even car manufacturers have gone the same route now. They don't want engineers dirty fingers in their units but rather see them piling up in the landfills.
A few reasons I would think. Cost being one but the main reason for plastic gears is how easy it is to turn them out. You have a mold you inject some plastic that it cool presto you have a gear out of that mold done very quickly now to do the same for a metal gear requires casting it machining it. Most little gears will be made out of a sleeve of metal that has the teeth cut into it but again that's machining it still takes longer and cost more per piece to make. Plus someone else already pointed out metal parts required lubrication and depending on the type of metal you have to worry about oxidation. These devices also are not intended to last 20 30 40 years the average lifespan of a DVD player when it was due would probably be pegged at 7 to 10 years maximum. Consumers demand cheaper products and manufacturers always find ways to make them cheaper. That's why we went from the old heavy 40 lb VCR in the early eighties to a 2 lb VCR by 2000s. Was the old machine more serviceable sure was it more reliable hell no. those old machines were far less reliable than the more modern machines even though the modern machines had more plastic in them. Now fast forward 30 years and the metal machines may have lasted longer just because some of the plastic parts of become brittle and failed over the last 30 years the back of the day they weren't very reliable. I remember servicing all those old machines, those old Hitachi made RCA machines and they were constant headaches and they had all metal parts in them. Parts freezing up parts rusting lubricant drying out they were constant maintenance headaches that we didn't have with everything went plastic gears. Also the price of VCR started out around $2,000 here in Canada. The last new one that I bought was a hifi machine it was probably around 2002 and I paid 79.95 on sale! Incidentally that machine still works and it's 20 years old.
Everything has its tradeoffs. Besides, if the gears last forever, then you have perfect gears in a machine with a burnt-out laser, dry electrolytic caps, and composite video. There's definitely a sense of "how long does this part _really_ need to last?" in manufacturing, but it's not all mustache-twiddling evil no-good profiteering a-holes trying to squeeze ten cents out of the little guy. It's also trying to anticipate how to make as many parts fail _at the same time_ as possible, so you don't go overboard with cost on parts in a machine that is going to be dead anyway due to some other lifespan bottleneck.
@@nickwallette6201 if you watch some of the comments around here there is always one or 2 that have the same thing to say. These wise asses should start their own company and make these devices that will last a lifetime and see how far they get.
i have fixed stuff with wire, but never like that. i could barely see the wire! damn near microscopic. i almost went blind trying to change a watch battery with a teenie screw in it.
I have a few old ide cd/dvd roms in 100% working condition. Plays everything that most dvd/cd players won't play. Is there some mean to connect an external switch to get it to play audio cd's when not connected to a computer. My external housing have the audio connections and pluged into the analogue connector on the rom drive. Would be nice to get this going and not having to buy a rom controller to do it....use as a total stand alone cd player to use with my amplifier in the garage.
@@dlarge6502 have a lite-on with earphone jack and volume control but no control buttons other than the open/close one. Still not working....suppose I'll have to look for another one with more control buttons. Thanks
Yeah, but... SMD caps are just radial-lead caps with different feet. There's nothing inherently special about them, apart from the mounting procedure. Capacitor manufacturers produce an entire plethora of caps to choose from, depending whether your priorities are high capacity, high voltage, high temperature, small diameter, short height, long life, etc etc etc. If an SMD cap fails and leaks everywhere, it's likely because the product manufacturer was optimizing for cost and/or board space, and chose the cheapest, smallest possible part that will provide the capacitance at the working voltage they needed. Or, it came from one of those times when the electrolyte formula was compromised, and failure was a given regardless of the form factor.
@@nickwallette6201, I know that. Very problematic. Just did recap on one year old switching power supply of a mini itx pc. Few days ago 4 years old Denon receiver was all covered with electrolyte around all high stress surface mounted caps. Used to be very common in the past, then the manufacturing process got improved but I'm starting to see a pattern again. They don't dissipate heat as well as caps mounted some distance from the board.
Great fix and good to know. Your vids are never too long. If someone wants to skip a few bits to view different parts of the vid, then they should try that.
What an ingenious fix. Great work and nice video!
Looks to be an older unit, maybe 1999 or so. Nice to see that you can basically do everything from the front of the unit, without the remote.
Early-mid 2000s. This one is newer than models like the SD-1600 and SD-1700, but those models also have the same problem, as did older models like the SD-1200 and the SD-2109.
This is a common problem with Toshiba players from around that timeframe.
I learned something new thanks. I'll have to try that next time I get a cracked gear in the shop
Sneaky hotwire :-D
Plastic gears are a bloody pain in the arse!
I have often thought that manufactures sabotage products.
The electrolitic capacitors always mounted next to a heatsink, hmm.
I know, right? It's not like you ever need rail decoupling next to components that pull a lot of current. pff... ;-)
oh man! that hot wire fix was new to me. awesome! thank you! 🙂
Thought you would like that.
Great repair and technique.
I like your video's your video's are knowledgeable very helpful
I might have that same model of DVD player. Still works, but good to know. The Toshiba manufactured ones were some of the most reliable ones.
11:15 I'm almost upset when they're too short lol
Well the next one will be short too.
Gosh, I remember when mp3 cd players started existing. I was an independent delivery driver that had to provide my own van and I had to dedicate the entire space in the back for cargo and so I went to a car audio store in a town I was delivering in and wanted to buy a head unit. I had already built a sub and had cheap pioneer coaxials(with soft dome tweeters) in the doors and some 5.1 panasonic surround sound speakers sitting on the dash. I went back and forth with the salesman about needing something with an input jack so I could plug in my MP3 player. He didn't have a single unit that had an input jack but recommended the Kenwood unit that had a removable flip down face and an MP3 cd player. It had a very basic screen but the man said they put all the money into the sound of the unit. It was true. I was able to high pass filter the speakers and send all the bass to the 600 watt amp that powered a custom bandpass 12" box that sat between my seats. It also had built in file cabinet where I was able to keep my documents and a surface where I could keep my laptop for microsoft maps(before the age of GPS). I was amazed that I could put 600 songs on a cd-r disc and play them all day long. One disc would keep me going all week long. Country on monday to Rap on friday. Another thing that was great was that MP3 format had a massive buffer so that when you hit bumps in the road, you wouldn't get skipping which was common with regular cd players. Many had buffers but were either really expensive or not enough buffer to handle Michigan roads.
I have that same kenwood cd player with mp3 with the flip over face. The catch broke so it wont stay closed. Was in my old car and I swapped it out for a JVC with MP3. Its around here somewhere. I should look for it and see if it still works. Had a Sony Xplod as well but it went tits up.
Inventive repair. I would never have thought of melting the gear to mend the crack.
it's like welding but for plastic
Brilliant Job, thanks.
You might be able to repair the crack using super glue with baking soda which makes a durable repair. Worth a shot!
A machine that beeps every time you hit a function key? I'd disable that feature PDQ.
That's a nice trick to keep in mind, thanks!
@12voltvids Great video! I was hoping to get some advice from you. This little gear slips off the shaft. It's not cracked. Visually okay. What would you recommend to make the gear stay on the shaft?
Crazy glue.
Bloody great idea. Would you believe that I actually managed to purchase some 'New' OEM capstan motor pulleys (Sankyo) for the old Mitsubishi 'F' deck. HS-M59 (UK model). Completely rebuilt the machine after one of your videos featuring the same mechanism.
Looked at the manual online and it looks like the remote has a dedicated Random button on it.
will have to try harmony remote
2 videos? Wonderful!! Great stuff.
I think I asked before, and forgot the answer: why don't they use metal gears? Cost? Planned breakdown? Less noisy?
I notice they use plastic or nylon gears on almost everything. Or it seems. Even mechanical clocks.
The answer from the manufacturer would be: because nylon gears don't need lubricants which dry out, attract dirt, save on costs so new devices are more affordable whatever. I personally think that it has all to do with planned obsolescence. This is why manufacturers switch between different mechs for different models. It used to be less uncommon up to the early nineties when most of the devices were designed to be serviced. The sad story is that even car manufacturers have gone the same route now. They don't want engineers dirty fingers in their units but rather see them piling up in the landfills.
A few reasons I would think. Cost being one but the main reason for plastic gears is how easy it is to turn them out. You have a mold you inject some plastic that it cool presto you have a gear out of that mold done very quickly now to do the same for a metal gear requires casting it machining it. Most little gears will be made out of a sleeve of metal that has the teeth cut into it but again that's machining it still takes longer and cost more per piece to make. Plus someone else already pointed out metal parts required lubrication and depending on the type of metal you have to worry about oxidation. These devices also are not intended to last 20 30 40 years the average lifespan of a DVD player when it was due would probably be pegged at 7 to 10 years maximum. Consumers demand cheaper products and manufacturers always find ways to make them cheaper. That's why we went from the old heavy 40 lb VCR in the early eighties to a 2 lb VCR by 2000s. Was the old machine more serviceable sure was it more reliable hell no. those old machines were far less reliable than the more modern machines even though the modern machines had more plastic in them. Now fast forward 30 years and the metal machines may have lasted longer just because some of the plastic parts of become brittle and failed over the last 30 years the back of the day they weren't very reliable. I remember servicing all those old machines, those old Hitachi made RCA machines and they were constant headaches and they had all metal parts in them. Parts freezing up parts rusting lubricant drying out they were constant maintenance headaches that we didn't have with everything went plastic gears. Also the price of VCR started out around $2,000 here in Canada. The last new one that I bought was a hifi machine it was probably around 2002 and I paid 79.95 on sale! Incidentally that machine still works and it's 20 years old.
Everything has its tradeoffs. Besides, if the gears last forever, then you have perfect gears in a machine with a burnt-out laser, dry electrolytic caps, and composite video.
There's definitely a sense of "how long does this part _really_ need to last?" in manufacturing, but it's not all mustache-twiddling evil no-good profiteering a-holes trying to squeeze ten cents out of the little guy. It's also trying to anticipate how to make as many parts fail _at the same time_ as possible, so you don't go overboard with cost on parts in a machine that is going to be dead anyway due to some other lifespan bottleneck.
@@nickwallette6201 if you watch some of the comments around here there is always one or 2 that have the same thing to say. These wise asses should start their own company and make these devices that will last a lifetime and see how far they get.
Looks like 32 pitch. Similar to RC car pinion gear.
Comon issue plastic cracked gears have orher manufacturers used metal gears sony did?
Nice
i have fixed stuff with wire, but never like that. i could barely see the wire! damn near microscopic. i almost went blind
trying to change a watch battery with a teenie screw in it.
Good luck...
Been doing that a long time....china gears for sale on ebay now
Ya but that cost money. This one is free.
My DVD player is only playing VCDs and music CDs and not playing DVDs any solution.
I have a few old ide cd/dvd roms in 100% working condition. Plays everything that most dvd/cd players won't play. Is there some mean to connect an external switch to get it to play audio cd's when not connected to a computer. My external housing have the audio connections and pluged into the analogue connector on the rom drive. Would be nice to get this going and not having to buy a rom controller to do it....use as a total stand alone cd player to use with my amplifier in the garage.
Look for an older CD-ROM that has audio CD play controls and a headphone jack on the front
@@dlarge6502 have a lite-on with earphone jack and volume control but no control buttons other than the open/close one. Still not working....suppose I'll have to look for another one with more control buttons. Thanks
Did somebody say smd crapasitors?
Yeah, but... SMD caps are just radial-lead caps with different feet. There's nothing inherently special about them, apart from the mounting procedure.
Capacitor manufacturers produce an entire plethora of caps to choose from, depending whether your priorities are high capacity, high voltage, high temperature, small diameter, short height, long life, etc etc etc. If an SMD cap fails and leaks everywhere, it's likely because the product manufacturer was optimizing for cost and/or board space, and chose the cheapest, smallest possible part that will provide the capacitance at the working voltage they needed.
Or, it came from one of those times when the electrolyte formula was compromised, and failure was a given regardless of the form factor.
@@nickwallette6201, I know that. Very problematic. Just did recap on one year old switching power supply of a mini itx pc. Few days ago 4 years old Denon receiver was all covered with electrolyte around all high stress surface mounted caps. Used to be very common in the past, then the manufacturing process got improved but I'm starting to see a pattern again. They don't dissipate heat as well as caps mounted some distance from the board.
Great fix, love it. Btw I'm gonna unsub you cause the vidz are to long.....NOT 🤣
I say good riddance to him.