@@arorei a couple years back I would switch launchers weekly and rice the hell out of my phone. Now my phone is so unorganized I just use the app launcher xD
I hope you all enjoyed the Unboxing and first look. I already flash Manjaro with Plasma mobile onto the phone. I just need my Arch. Some cool projects coming with the PinePhone!
@@noahpaulette1490 I think the RAM is replaceable. The main bottleneck is the GPU, I think. I'm not too familiar with phones, but another UA-camr said that the Mali400 is "ancient".
that's what they keep saying for linux on desktops, linux for gaming, ecc. it's cool to play with, but it will never be mainstream. also, it's laggy af. not even android was this laggy 6-7 years ago.
@@user-gj8wo8lq9s Milions doesn't mean that has a percentage that's more than a fraction of what Windows and MacOS. These two are still the ones that are used the most. Very different story on the server side though. Linux is king on servers.
@@sphexie you can't really compare this to android, or ios since companies literally invested money in them ... Sure pine64 makes some money but they're just a small team investing their own time in building this ... along with people who want to contribute... Now if they had investments with an entire team working solely on making the software then it would be done quicker
Lots of people in the comments missing the point, this device is here to solve the chicken and egg problem of trying to develop an os that has no target hardware. This is a device with phonelike hardware made to facilitate running linux. The fact that it is a bit dated is fine, what's important is that it is hardware supported by the mainline linux kernel so that developers can focus on how applications act and how they can make a phonelike linux distro without wrestling with their hardware or having to use a vm that doesn't fully mimmick a hardware device. The fact that you're dissapointed by this device is the reason it needs to exist, you want it, but you want a good experiance with it. It wouldnt make sense to make an expensive high end device that will be several years outdated before the software can provide a trouble free experiance that users want.
Thx for the upload. I’ve been following this project since the beginning. But wow, still years away from being a usable device. Civilization might’ve moved on from mobile phones by the time this thing is ready.
I've installed Ubuntu Touch. It's a much older project that I want to try years ago. It's much more stable and smooth and there's actually an okay selection of applications. 😎
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I'm excited to see how they improve in the future, but at this point they are nearly unusable. Anroid phones and iPhones spoiled us with great responsivness, it's really not a good experience to have to wait for every app to launch on your phone. I hope they polish the idea because I'd love to have "pure" linux on my phone.
Yeah, but I guess we shouldnt expect much from a 200$ phone As im commenting this I realise im using a 200$ samsung android thats fairly responsive lol
@@___echo___ Well yeah, I get that, 200 is not that much in the realm of smartphones, but a $200 android phone is still most of the time a lot more responsive. At this level it's not really about the hardware but optimizing the software. They say Linux will run on anything - sure, it will, but it doesn't mean it will be smooth. And that's what the team behind that idea will hopefully try and improve in the future. I'd love to daily drive a phone like that, but it still has a looong way to go before it gives the user an experience comparable to android.
Dude you have to be kidding me. The hardware in this thing is archaic. It's so so underpowered. I don't understand why they chose processor with 1.2 GHz speed and old ass Mali 400.
Luckily the main project Ubuntu touch has been around and developing for a while. Being completely open source it's hard to go belly up unless if literally all the developers decide to abandon the project.
I've been waiting for a good mobile Linux OS for too long but I guess I'll have to stick with iOS for a little while more. That's a nice console for developers but not the greatest user experience remotely. I hope for "iOS level optimisation" in the future, maybe I'll have a chance to work on it too.
The PinePhone Convergence Package with 3GB RAM and 32GB storage costs $199, not $899. The RAM and Flash memory are soldered to the PCB and the only way to upgrade them is to replace the PCB, and the A64 only supports a maximum of 3GB RAM.
Thanks MUCH for great share and video! Got mine with new OS, BUT it was extremely unstable and could not update for a week or so, Manjaro IS BUGGY! So my question is what distro are you on now? And what has been the best for you? I loaded Ubuntu touch on SD, and it IS more stable, but does not recognize the dock? Thanks again and Cheers :)
While I am an android user, not even doing AOSP and being "part of the problem" for my personal convenience - I really am glad that this device and people willing to use and hopefully code and improve them are around, just so there is a plan B for the droided up google is all future. Sailfish OS was cool but also on limited platforms and generally some open creativity in phone space; for hardware and software is not bad when the competition is... Grim. I used to like android as "The computer in pocket" coming from Nokia S60 and seeing how limited and counter convenient for me iOS was setup to be. Still, today, the amount of background processing and listening our android phones do for god-knows-what reason is alarming when you realize it actually happens and a lot - how much harder google is making using more purified androids by curating their google-services enforced app store and overall showing why "do no evil" was removed as their motto ever less sneakily. I mean, I would not personally yet buy this and use it, but I also think having this option and platform for hardware and software is important.
Seems the “Mobile ” interface still needs loads of optimization. However, I would like to see it running plain Debian with XFCe or MATE as the default UI. I wonder if X86 to ARM translators are viable enough to run well enough on underpowered hardware that compares to the ZTE Zmax?
It's not a product for the average consumer. These phones are made for developers so there CAN be a consumer product in the future. It's an open source phone in its baby stages.
I am very curious about mobile Linux and phones like the Pine Phone. The biggest let down at the moment seems to be that there really isn’t great hardware on these devices yet. I would love to see a Linux phone that is at least as powerful as a mid-range Android phone like the OnePlus Nord or the LG Velvet.
Great review video and great channel. We had big problems to install LibreOffice on the Linux PinePhone, and it is said to be not usable on the phone screen. Then, we found, that LibreOffice can be installed easily on a Raspberry PI zero W2 in about 4 min. Instruction can be found on UA-cam. A great coder in the Pine64 forum recommended to use Abiword and Gnumerics for the PinePhone. Abiword was hardly updated since the last 10 years. Abiword and Gnumerics run also on Raspberry PI zero W2. Why to buy a Linux PinePhone then? We can buy a Raspberry PI zero W2 for 20 USD and have the same Office suites on it as on the PinePhone. And we will also test a Fairphone 2 with PostmarkedOS which can be bought on ebay for 100 USD. In Switzerland, the PinePhone is 300 USD shipping included. We currently see no reason to buy another PinePhone.
I hope they sell a lot of these. In the future there might be more with even better specs at a better price but only if these sell well. I suspect that they will.
The wont sell well. Only peopl that allready tinker around with Linux will buy it nobody els. Its just there for fun not to realy us it daily. Thats the reality of Linux
If the main thing people want is SSH ability from their phone, there are plenty apps out there for Android and iOS. With Android you can also slap a custom keyboard (Hacker's Keyboard all the way) for proper access. I use JuiceSSH on Android for all my mobile SSH needs. That dock is gorgeous though, and it's very exciting to see raw Linux being brought into the mobile world. Hope to see this develop into some maturity as time goes by.
Can you please do another video going deeper in depth ? Can you list all available packages in the Mobian repo ? or whichever distro you get to work. I would play Gnome games and try different web-browsers Can you please try a lightweight distro ? Does wayland work ?
would've been even more crazier if it had like one of those blackberry style keyboards - not the older ones maybe but the newer android ones where they have a sick keyboard in the bottom. Still great having a pure linux phone.
loving linux more and more, this is just going to get better, cant imagine going back to windows , what a boring world, specially if you are a programmer
Well,.. the idea is there for sure to make it a small form mobile computing platform. Obviously still rough around the edges, but the mere fact of having a replaceable battery makes it already interesting. And it runs Linux without the insane slurp of data. And hook it up to a desktop outfit for your text editing needs with the USB dock. If they manage to upgrade the specs a bit, it would be quite a contender as a replacement for chromebooks.
My KDE Plasma version dropped in my post about a month ago. Like you, going to have to distro hop. Not the most stable version of Linux around for this hardware. Neat hobbyist phone to work with, but definitely not recommended to be the sole daily driver. Lots of possibilities though. Being able to physically turn off parts of the phone is handy, though not as easily accessible as the Librem 5. Cheers!
Hated the manjaro distro (both of them) super unstable, random crashes for almost any action. What ever you do dont let it go into deep sleep, the power button wont wake it and lets just say I got good at taking the case off to pop out the battery. So, this is a complaint on all touch K/B's not just pine64, and the onscreen keyboard was a PITA to use in terminal so I sat down at my desktop and ssh'd to the phone where I was able to get pacman to update after fixing a few things lol. Update took forever, 1.5h+ but I was still happy I was running linux on a phone (I got the 199 bundle manjaro community ed) and it was working, and updating woohoo. So I went off to watch some tv seeing pacman was on 71/481 updates. When I came back, I rebooted into the fresh update, except it wouldn't take the default password anymore, so I tried to ssh as root and ssh was no longer answering. something went screwy. So thats when I started distro hopping, I tried the other manjaro with KDE plasma, ran 30% better, still not even usable 4-6 crashes per hour. dd me up a fedora microsd, poped it in and aside from needing to fix a dns issue which is common on F33, been there done that on my desktop I have not crashed once, even after a full dnf update. however there is still an issue with the size of the window being launched the resolution and aspect ratio means you cant see most of some apps including tops and bottoms of windows and you cant move the app around the screen to get to the all important apply/done button. So I send the app to the background swipe it away and go back to what Im used to, a bash prompt. :)
Mine is the cheaper one - just arrived today. So cheap it came without the side buttons, but I can push them with a plastic guitar pick. Unfortunately it also doesn't do the setup - can't partition the included memory. I'm trying to re-flash the OS. Suggestions welcome.
Interesting offer. Would you please comment how easy is to install packages and functionality of the docking station?Love Raspberry Pi but this seems a more portable option. Do you think is travel friendly just by attaching a keyboard and screen?
I love it for the removable battery. Would this phone be quicker if it wasn’t running Linux? Like wiped out and installed android. These specs are not bad at all, previous Android models are much faster with similar specs
Still waiting for my mobian edition, should be here by mid next week, I'm exited, I know it's not well optimized yet but that will change. I've been waiting for true linux phones for years.
I've been waiting ANY Linux phone, just to get rid of google. But, you did not tested camera. I've been satisfied with my nokia n95 camera of 5 MP, but that was a real camera with mechanical zoom. A real nice photos, 5 Mp is sufficient, anything above is even better.
I have tested just about all the operating systems for the Pine phone and the end results is it is not ready for prime time. Mechanically it is but the closest I got to a viable operating and application system was Ubuntu Touch, yet they still have a ways to go so my Pine 64 phone now sits in it's box waiting for the next upgrade to Ubuntu Touch because if anybody is going to make this work it's the team behind Ubuntu Touch they do have the edge thanks to Canonical 5 year effort.
would be cool to test its limits. install gparted, exfat fuse, grub multibootloader, nextcloud, nginx, docker, sudo apt full upgrade..., graphene os, black arch, whonix...
@@xythiera7255 Linux is dominating the server world but it isn't huge in the desktop market. So it certainly has "taken off" considering even Android is built off of the Linux kernel.
GTK that this desktop environment is running at has no hardware acceleration on the Pinephone yet. It's all software rendered. Plasma or Lomiri are a lot more responsive because they actually use the GPU.
I'm excited for this and got in back for the first community edition but it isn't really usable for me until they figure out how to get MMS to work because without it you can't send/receive group chat messages or picture messages which is a deal breaker for me because I'm regularly in group chats due to family issues.
Good stuff! Looks very promising! I'd **love** to see an OpenBSD version of this phone! I say that because OpenBSD is generally seen as the most-secure OS available (and it's likely to be a bit smaller than Mobian so it'd probably be faster too). Anyway, **great** to see a non-Apple, non-Android phone!
So in all honesty I feel just as confused as when I pushed play... Meaning I the feature & systems and how to use it just sounds more complex than power up and use. Does it come with everything installed or do you have to load it up and use it a specific type of way to maintain privacy? I don’t understand why you can use T-Mobile and still keep privacy? Perhaps this info is in several other videos but really who every offers a set up tutorial, how to use to maintain privacy and what mistakes may you want to avoid, like downloading which apps to avoid spyware, can you call people who don’t have a pine phone and still keep privacy will be the winner of this niche. Even if you sell it as a prerecorded course. I mean the learning curve doesn’t detour but it certainly will delay purchase time. Right now I’m thinking if I bought it could I use it immediately 😂😫. To many questions. I suppose the company has tutorials.
why cant librem and pine get together making a phone the size of the librem 5 with 6 switches on the side with a librem sized battery where all the hardware has appropriate software with ubuntu touch loaded as standard.
Hi, guys, please, if I have the dock can I use a external monitor and charge at the same time? This will be great gift for some people if the phone allowed that.
@@theproudlinuxer Yeah. They are sold out pretty quick everytime. :) You have to wait for a next batch that will be released soon with default Manjaro Plasma.
Everyone here waiting for manjaro phone or excited by debian phone and I'm like ... When is offensive security gonna release a phone with a kali phone on it 🤤 Imagine "i said imagine" collaborating with samsung , and getting something like .... 12 gigs of ram , and 128 gigs of storage , and some beefy cpu , ah 🥵
I got mine a few days ago. Nice thing to tinker with but not even close to becoming a daily use phone. Crashes at least twice a day, battery life is about 1 hour. Cant run Tor, browser use is a nightmare unless its docked, cant take voicemails or texts if its dead/off. The ability to run Kali tools and the hardware kill switches are basically its only redeeming quality. Cell service for Verzion, tmobile etc works but the touch screen is a pain. Basically its a linux machine in your pocket. Not much of a phone
If PinePhone was about 2000-3000 UAH, i'd absolutely buy and try it, but now it costs(5000~) almost as my main vayu at the day of me purchasing it(6000~)😬
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Already distro-hopping 😅😅😅
My preference so far is Arch. By far. It especially nice that audio output auto-switches properly. Tip: configure MAME to run in windowed mode ;)
I launcher-hop even on my android
@@arorei a couple years back I would switch launchers weekly and rice the hell out of my phone. Now my phone is so unorganized I just use the app launcher xD
@@TechHut is there a gentoo mobile lol
@@diegomarquez3293 yes... Yes there is 😂
I hope you all enjoyed the Unboxing and first look. I already flash Manjaro with Plasma mobile onto the phone. I just need my Arch. Some cool projects coming with the PinePhone!
We'd love to watch the experiments with the phone!
Tinker with phone
Does Plasma actually has a Touch UI?!?!
I would like a mid-high spec version of this. Like the idea of portable linux.
You should check out the f(x)tec pro1 x on indiegogo
Yeah I would like to see like 4-6gb of ram 32gb rom maybe 2 SD card slots. NFC would be cool as well as wireless charging but that all takes funding.
@@noahpaulette1490
I think the RAM is replaceable. The main bottleneck is the GPU, I think. I'm not too familiar with phones, but another UA-camr said that the Mali400 is "ancient".
@@manictiger ram is soldered on I'm sure. Gpu is probably the bottle neck for the most part though.
@@noahpaulette1490
Wait, really? Why would it be soldered on?
Really looking forward to the future of these.
Still rough around the edges, but it'll get there.
that's what they keep saying for linux on desktops, linux for gaming, ecc. it's cool to play with, but it will never be mainstream. also, it's laggy af. not even android was this laggy 6-7 years ago.
@@sphexie linux is used on millions of desktops everyday. From developers to basic kiosks, Linux is pretty mainstream on the desktop.
@@user-gj8wo8lq9s Milions doesn't mean that has a percentage that's more than a fraction of what Windows and MacOS. These two are still the ones that are used the most. Very different story on the server side though. Linux is king on servers.
@@sphexie you can't really compare this to android, or ios since companies literally invested money in them ...
Sure pine64 makes some money but they're just a small team investing their own time in building this ... along with people who want to contribute... Now if they had investments with an entire team working solely on making the software then it would be done quicker
Lots of people in the comments missing the point, this device is here to solve the chicken and egg problem of trying to develop an os that has no target hardware. This is a device with phonelike hardware made to facilitate running linux. The fact that it is a bit dated is fine, what's important is that it is hardware supported by the mainline linux kernel so that developers can focus on how applications act and how they can make a phonelike linux distro without wrestling with their hardware or having to use a vm that doesn't fully mimmick a hardware device.
The fact that you're dissapointed by this device is the reason it needs to exist, you want it, but you want a good experiance with it. It wouldnt make sense to make an expensive high end device that will be several years outdated before the software can provide a trouble free experiance that users want.
Not only that, but it’s still in beta.
Thank you for telling me to remove the plastic tab. I didn't know why my wifi wasn't working.
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Good job showing how much you appreciate the device without overpraising it. We all know that lineage is the better option as a phone.
Looks great...I'm a debian fan. Will chek it out!
Bro just wanted to point out when you say a hundred and ninety-nine dollars that it sounds like your saying eight hundrend and 99 dollars lol
Yeah I also understood that. What the hell
I legit thought he said 899 dollars too xD.
Me too, could not understand why a device this jank would cost so much. Or who would have that much money to waste on it. 199 is a much better price!
The subtitles bot also heard "899" :P
@@pawelabrams this is why closed captions are important. clarification and accessibility.
edit: (manually made by the creators themselves)
It's definitely going towards the right direction. It looks promising if R&D continues making improvements and upgrades.
Thx for the upload. I’ve been following this project since the beginning. But wow, still years away from being a usable device. Civilization might’ve moved on from mobile phones by the time this thing is ready.
I've installed Ubuntu Touch. It's a much older project that I want to try years ago. It's much more stable and smooth and there's actually an okay selection of applications. 😎
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I'm excited to see how they improve in the future, but at this point they are nearly unusable. Anroid phones and iPhones spoiled us with great responsivness, it's really not a good experience to have to wait for every app to launch on your phone. I hope they polish the idea because I'd love to have "pure" linux on my phone.
Yeah, but I guess we shouldnt expect much from a 200$ phone
As im commenting this I realise im using a 200$ samsung android thats fairly responsive lol
@@___echo___ Well yeah, I get that, 200 is not that much in the realm of smartphones, but a $200 android phone is still most of the time a lot more responsive. At this level it's not really about the hardware but optimizing the software. They say Linux will run on anything - sure, it will, but it doesn't mean it will be smooth. And that's what the team behind that idea will hopefully try and improve in the future. I'd love to daily drive a phone like that, but it still has a looong way to go before it gives the user an experience comparable to android.
Dude you have to be kidding me. The hardware in this thing is archaic. It's so so underpowered. I don't understand why they chose processor with 1.2 GHz speed and old ass Mali 400.
@@Dudik28 its only a hundred bucks though I guess
Please pine 64 is powered by hatw
Install Gentoo on it ;)
Mobian works really well. Terminal (King's Cross) really handy in this form factor.
I am excited to see (eventually) another competitor in the mobile OS environment. Competition = Better options.
Luckily the main project Ubuntu touch has been around and developing for a while. Being completely open source it's hard to go belly up unless if literally all the developers decide to abandon the project.
@@TechHut I think having reliable physical phones that developers can plan thier work around will make a large difference.
I've been waiting for a good mobile Linux OS for too long but I guess I'll have to stick with iOS for a little while more.
That's a nice console for developers but not the greatest user experience remotely. I hope for "iOS level optimisation" in the future, maybe I'll have a chance to work on it too.
The PinePhone Convergence Package with 3GB RAM and 32GB storage costs $199, not $899.
The RAM and Flash memory are soldered to the PCB and the only way to upgrade them is to replace the PCB, and the A64 only supports a maximum of 3GB RAM.
I said "a 100 and 99 dollars" but I said it quick so it sounded like $899.
Thanks MUCH for great share and video! Got mine with new OS, BUT it was extremely unstable and could not update for a week or so, Manjaro IS BUGGY! So my question is what distro are you on now? And what has been the best for you? I loaded Ubuntu touch on SD, and it IS more stable, but does not recognize the dock? Thanks again and Cheers :)
While I am an android user, not even doing AOSP and being "part of the problem" for my personal convenience - I really am glad that this device and people willing to use and hopefully code and improve them are around, just so there is a plan B for the droided up google is all future. Sailfish OS was cool but also on limited platforms and generally some open creativity in phone space; for hardware and software is not bad when the competition is... Grim. I used to like android as "The computer in pocket" coming from Nokia S60 and seeing how limited and counter convenient for me iOS was setup to be. Still, today, the amount of background processing and listening our android phones do for god-knows-what reason is alarming when you realize it actually happens and a lot - how much harder google is making using more purified androids by curating their google-services enforced app store and overall showing why "do no evil" was removed as their motto ever less sneakily.
I mean, I would not personally yet buy this and use it, but I also think having this option and platform for hardware and software is important.
Seems the “Mobile ” interface still needs loads of optimization. However, I would like to see it running plain Debian with XFCe or MATE as the default UI.
I wonder if X86 to ARM translators are viable enough to run well enough on underpowered hardware that compares to the ZTE Zmax?
Couldn't they use a Mediatek G, Snapdragon 600XX or exynos 96XX ??? It is unnecessarily slow.
Yeah, looks kinda laggy... ngl, but I guess it's a start for future linux phones.
They are doing that because they want everything open source
It's not a product for the average consumer. These phones are made for developers so there CAN be a consumer product in the future.
It's an open source phone in its baby stages.
@@Vote4waifu I know, but still, an average procesor would have been better.
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Hopefully one day. I dream of just having a really great Linux deskop... in my pocket.
Want one of these really bad but man they’re hard to get hold of. Seems like they’re never in stock.
I am very curious about mobile Linux and phones like the Pine Phone. The biggest let down at the moment seems to be that there really isn’t great hardware on these devices yet. I would love to see a Linux phone that is at least as powerful as a mid-range Android phone like the OnePlus Nord or the LG Velvet.
Nice,, waiting on mine as we speak.
Welcome to 2010, this phone is a dog. Thank you for presenting it, fun to watch.
Great review video and great channel. We had big problems to install LibreOffice on the Linux PinePhone, and it is said to be not usable on the phone screen. Then, we found, that LibreOffice can be installed easily on a Raspberry PI zero W2 in about 4 min. Instruction can be found on UA-cam. A great coder in the Pine64 forum recommended to use Abiword and Gnumerics for the PinePhone. Abiword was hardly updated since the last 10 years. Abiword and Gnumerics run also on Raspberry PI zero W2. Why to buy a Linux PinePhone then? We can buy a Raspberry PI zero W2 for 20 USD and have the same Office suites on it as on the PinePhone. And we will also test a Fairphone 2 with PostmarkedOS which can be bought on ebay for 100 USD. In Switzerland, the PinePhone is 300 USD shipping included. We currently see no reason to buy another PinePhone.
Sudo apt update first bro !!! Then sudo apt upgrade. Then sudo apt autoremove. I hope that fixes lag problems. Linux FOREVER.
I hope they sell a lot of these. In the future there might be more with even better specs at a better price but only if these sell well. I suspect that they will.
The wont sell well. Only peopl that allready tinker around with Linux will buy it nobody els. Its just there for fun not to realy us it daily. Thats the reality of Linux
If the main thing people want is SSH ability from their phone, there are plenty apps out there for Android and iOS. With Android you can also slap a custom keyboard (Hacker's Keyboard all the way) for proper access.
I use JuiceSSH on Android for all my mobile SSH needs.
That dock is gorgeous though, and it's very exciting to see raw Linux being brought into the mobile world. Hope to see this develop into some maturity as time goes by.
I love your methodical mannerism.
That world map mousepad is really nice, and so is the pinephone
Wow , i want that distro on my mobile :- D . Looks great
Great video I think I like the Mobian edition better than the Manjaro but both would be good either way.
"it's kind of like a really good raspberry pi"
then why can't it scroll a webpage.
can the pi not scroll a webpage too?
Nice video! I look forward to what you think about Manjaro with Plasma Mobile!
Can you please do another video going deeper in depth ?
Can you list all available packages in the Mobian repo ?
or whichever distro you get to work.
I would play Gnome games and try different web-browsers
Can you please try a lightweight distro ?
Does wayland work ?
Mobian uses Phosh as desktop environment and Phosh is completely Wayland.
1:05 no offenses, this is the best pick up line i can conjure
would've been even more crazier if it had like one of those blackberry style keyboards - not the older ones maybe but the newer android ones where they have a sick keyboard in the bottom.
Still great having a pure linux phone.
Thank for the video
loving linux more and more, this is just going to get better, cant imagine going back to windows , what a boring world, specially if you are a programmer
Well,.. the idea is there for sure to make it a small form mobile computing platform. Obviously still rough around the edges, but the mere fact of having a replaceable battery makes it already interesting. And it runs Linux without the insane slurp of data. And hook it up to a desktop outfit for your text editing needs with the USB dock. If they manage to upgrade the specs a bit, it would be quite a contender as a replacement for chromebooks.
Wooow i want one right now
Wow! I wonder if I get one though..
My KDE Plasma version dropped in my post about a month ago. Like you, going to have to distro hop. Not the most stable version of Linux around for this hardware. Neat hobbyist phone to work with, but definitely not recommended to be the sole daily driver. Lots of possibilities though. Being able to physically turn off parts of the phone is handy, though not as easily accessible as the Librem 5. Cheers!
Hated the manjaro distro (both of them) super unstable, random crashes for almost any action. What ever you do dont let it go into deep sleep, the power button wont wake it and lets just say I got good at taking the case off to pop out the battery. So, this is a complaint on all touch K/B's not just pine64, and the onscreen keyboard was a PITA to use in terminal so I sat down at my desktop and ssh'd to the phone where I was able to get pacman to update after fixing a few things lol. Update took forever, 1.5h+ but I was still happy I was running linux on a phone (I got the 199 bundle manjaro community ed) and it was working, and updating woohoo. So I went off to watch some tv seeing pacman was on 71/481 updates. When I came back, I rebooted into the fresh update, except it wouldn't take the default password anymore, so I tried to ssh as root and ssh was no longer answering. something went screwy. So thats when I started distro hopping, I tried the other manjaro with KDE plasma, ran 30% better, still not even usable 4-6 crashes per hour. dd me up a fedora microsd, poped it in and aside from needing to fix a dns issue which is common on F33, been there done that on my desktop I have not crashed once, even after a full dnf update. however there is still an issue with the size of the window being launched the resolution and aspect ratio means you cant see most of some apps including tops and bottoms of windows and you cant move the app around the screen to get to the all important apply/done button. So I send the app to the background swipe it away and go back to what Im used to, a bash prompt. :)
when you pressed 1,2,3,4,5 it looked like you are pressing 4, 5,6,7,8
Крутое видео! А со стилусом есть более продвинутые устройства?
Mine is the cheaper one - just arrived today. So cheap it came without the side buttons, but I can push them with a plastic guitar pick. Unfortunately it also doesn't do the setup - can't partition the included memory. I'm trying to re-flash the OS. Suggestions welcome.
cooool thanks for sharing man
Interesting offer. Would you please comment how easy is to install packages and functionality of the docking station?Love Raspberry Pi but this seems a more portable option. Do you think is travel friendly just by attaching a keyboard and screen?
I love it for the removable battery. Would this phone be quicker if it wasn’t running Linux? Like wiped out and installed android. These specs are not bad at all, previous Android models are much faster with similar specs
I was using Ubuntu touch but I switched to mobian
Still waiting for my mobian edition, should be here by mid next week, I'm exited, I know it's not well optimized yet but that will change.
I've been waiting for true linux phones for years.
I've been waiting ANY Linux phone, just to get rid of google. But, you did not tested camera. I've been satisfied with my nokia n95 camera of 5 MP, but that was a real camera with mechanical zoom. A real nice photos, 5 Mp is sufficient, anything above is even better.
Is it good for ordinary calls? How are the speakers? Is it sensitive to humidity?
Lol you look so happy in the thumbnail
Ye
Didn't know Zach Galifianakis brother was a High Tech influencer ;-)
I have tested just about all the operating systems for the Pine phone
and the end results is it is not ready for prime time. Mechanically it
is but the closest I got to a viable operating and application system
was Ubuntu Touch, yet they still have a ways to go so my Pine 64 phone
now sits in it's box waiting for the next upgrade to Ubuntu Touch
because if anybody is going to make this work it's the team behind
Ubuntu Touch they do have the edge thanks to Canonical 5 year effort.
Now I have to buy one and use it not knowing it is having 2gb ram and also a quad core chip anyway it has debian it will be awsome
Am goin to buy it
Hopefully the baseband firmware gets published soon.
would be cool to test its limits. install gparted, exfat fuse, grub multibootloader, nextcloud, nginx, docker, sudo apt full upgrade..., graphene os, black arch, whonix...
Can you make video aboutthe best linux android phones
I canceled my order. I wish it had stronger system on a chip. It could be great
how good you brought this phone, I hope more smartphone with decentralized apps, to end these monopoly of big techs
Na it won. Nobody real cares thats why Linux will never take off ever.
@@xythiera7255 Linux is dominating the server world but it isn't huge in the desktop market. So it certainly has "taken off" considering even Android is built off of the Linux kernel.
GTK that this desktop environment is running at has no hardware acceleration on the Pinephone yet. It's all software rendered. Plasma or Lomiri are a lot more responsive because they actually use the GPU.
Really? Is there no GPU usage with phosh ?
@@mat314159mat Yeah. GTK 3 has no GPU acceleration at all and GTK 4 OpenGL renderer is designed for more powerful devices so it's actually slower.
great video and beard :)
I'm excited for this and got in back for the first community edition but it isn't really usable for me until they figure out how to get MMS to work because without it you can't send/receive group chat messages or picture messages which is a deal breaker for me because I'm regularly in group chats due to family issues.
Good stuff! Looks very promising!
I'd **love** to see an OpenBSD version of this phone! I say that because OpenBSD is generally seen as the most-secure OS available (and it's likely to be a bit smaller than Mobian so it'd probably be faster too). Anyway, **great** to see a non-Apple, non-Android phone!
So in all honesty I feel just as confused as when I pushed play... Meaning I the feature & systems and how to use it just sounds more complex than power up and use. Does it come with everything installed or do you have to load it up and use it a specific type of way to maintain privacy? I don’t understand why you can use T-Mobile and still keep privacy? Perhaps this info is in several other videos but really who every offers a set up tutorial, how to use to maintain privacy and what mistakes may you want to avoid, like downloading which apps to avoid spyware, can you call people who don’t have a pine phone and still keep privacy will be the winner of this niche. Even if you sell it as a prerecorded course. I mean the learning curve doesn’t detour but it certainly will delay purchase time. Right now I’m thinking if I bought it could I use it immediately 😂😫. To many questions. I suppose the company has tutorials.
can Mobian or Manjaro supporting Android apps and GMS apps?Thanks.
Mobian is great if you have ever used Ubuntu or Raspberry Pi. I use Pinephone with Mobian as my main driver.
Wonder how this would work on Verizon. I have Xfinity mobile but they use the Verizon network.
Not ready for market yet, especially at this price point.
I'm still waiting on mine to get here! I went with the cheaper shipping so I'm stuck waiting
Your name like an artist
Yeah was wondering why mali 400 mp2 isn't that an older slow gpu and ddr 3 mem for $899 ?
It's $199. And for the chipset, they needed one with mainline Linux driver support. Which is not so common on recent chipsets.
Mine is supposed to ge delivered Wednesday. As long as i can make calls and send texts I'll be happy. I'm a total noob to linux but willing to learn.
I switched it to Ubuntu touch would recommend
@@TechHut I'm just going to use it as a secondary until I get the feel. I'll try a few OS before I decide.
why cant librem and pine get together making a phone the size of the
librem 5 with 6 switches on the side with a librem sized battery where
all the hardware has appropriate software with ubuntu touch loaded as
standard.
There is no acceleration for the webbrowser so it's a bit slow.
would be awesome to have something small like this to run kali on....
which OS do you recommend most for the PinePhone?
Does it make phone calls? Why doesn’t anyone who does a review of this phone actually talk about whether they can make phone calls and text messages?
Yes. Very well. I'll demo this in my full review.
Can individual pixels be seen when looking at the Display? How is T-Mobile Service? Does the PinePhone feature VoLTE and VoWiFi on T-Mobile’s Network?
looking for souped up phone hardware that you have drivers for and can optimise and configure to your delight that was a good unboxing thanks :)
I never heard anything about this OS before. Would be great if it was launched in some huawei device instead of the HarmonyOS.
""""""""OUT OF STOCK"""""""
I am going to get one
Error in your post, it's got 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM not 3GB (which is a weird number anyway)
Convergence edition comes with 3gb
I am sure that you will leave the 12345 PIN as it is. I would :)
As always UI without any HW acceleration. Typical Linux
Hi, guys, please, if I have the dock can I use a external monitor and charge at the same time? This will be great gift for some people if the phone allowed that.
I'd love to buy this, but I can't find it in India! I'm searching for it constantly.
me too
can you buy it from their store?
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 It shows a simple message: *OUT OF STOCK*
@@theproudlinuxer Yeah. They are sold out pretty quick everytime. :) You have to wait for a next batch that will be released soon with default Manjaro Plasma.
Everyone here waiting for manjaro phone or excited by debian phone and I'm like ...
When is offensive security gonna release a phone with a kali phone on it 🤤
Imagine "i said imagine" collaborating with samsung , and getting something like .... 12 gigs of ram , and 128 gigs of storage , and some beefy cpu , ah 🥵
I got mine a few days ago. Nice thing to tinker with but not even close to becoming a daily use phone. Crashes at least twice a day, battery life is about 1 hour. Cant run Tor, browser use is a nightmare unless its docked, cant take voicemails or texts if its dead/off. The ability to run Kali tools and the hardware kill switches are basically its only redeeming quality. Cell service for Verzion, tmobile etc works but the touch screen is a pain. Basically its a linux machine in your pocket. Not much of a phone
If you flip horizontal, does the terminal get bigger automatically??
If PinePhone was about 2000-3000 UAH, i'd absolutely buy and try it, but now it costs(5000~) almost as my main vayu at the day of me purchasing it(6000~)😬
Nice video
Who the hell is paying $900 for this???
I was talking to fast my bad. Its $150-$200.