What Happens to a Movie Without a Camera Operator? | Reverse Film School | Vanity Fair

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  • @habibjutt3220
    @habibjutt3220 4 роки тому +371

    Only OGs know about
    "Joann's Fabrics"

    • @grayonthewater
      @grayonthewater 4 роки тому +8

      Been waiting for the follow up for a long time lol

  • @thewhitewolf58
    @thewhitewolf58 4 роки тому +81

    Like how every few takes you are slowly progressing the scene so we dont get bored of loops

  • @billygowhoop
    @billygowhoop 4 роки тому +160

    It's amazing how all this super expensive stuff that has a very subtle effect on the way a movie looks but also makes a massive difference in how we perceive its quality.

    • @DodaGarcia
      @DodaGarcia 4 роки тому +7

      billygowhoop true! But a lot of that can he done on a budget, it’s just less convenient. There’s some stuff that costs a lot because of its physical properties (lenses, accurate lights) but things like jibs and dollies can be definitely be DIY.
      The director of Lights Out and Shazam has a great channel on here where he teaches that stuff, I highly recommend it.

    • @shadowshapers
      @shadowshapers 3 роки тому

      @@DodaGarcia And the critical piece of information missing is that his channel is called "Ponysmasher."

  • @NewLayer
    @NewLayer 4 роки тому +97

    This is what really needs to show up when people search for “how to shoot cinematic footage” 👌

    • @ganeshsonawanemail
      @ganeshsonawanemail 4 роки тому +11

      Yes. And not the ones with "cinematic colour filters" or technical mumbo jumbo.

    • @NewLayer
      @NewLayer 4 роки тому +2

      ​@@ganeshsonawanemail I love slowmo as much as the next guy, but you very rarely see slowmo sequences in real cinema, so it's funny how cinematic became associated with that.

    • @ufukkiblat
      @ufukkiblat 4 роки тому +2

      @@NewLayer I know who you're talking about.

    • @NewLayer
      @NewLayer 4 роки тому

      @@ufukkiblat Haha, I wasn't referring to anyone specific, because I think it's about 90% of people at this point :)

    • @seansfilms655
      @seansfilms655 4 роки тому

      cinematography relies more on the lighting.

  • @gpaderx6105
    @gpaderx6105 4 роки тому +52

    5 years later, we can have the whole movie about Joann's Fabrics

  • @keitatsutsumi
    @keitatsutsumi 4 роки тому +170

    0:26 “but me ma ain’t around no more, ain’t she?”
    *starts crying*

    • @FlameMage2
      @FlameMage2 4 роки тому +3

      Should have been "but me ma ain't around no more, is she?" and how 3+ people let that incorrect phrasing go through is beyond me.

    • @yourlifeisagreatstory
      @yourlifeisagreatstory 4 роки тому +3

      FlameMage2 this guy[character] doesn’t seem like he had the best schooling nor cares to much about using proper grammar while speaking...

    • @liz-c39
      @liz-c39 4 роки тому +5

      FlameMage2 that’s the point

  • @cycoekiller119
    @cycoekiller119 4 роки тому +57

    "your ma, or me ma, or mama mia" ah yes, the holy trinity

  • @CaravelClerihew
    @CaravelClerihew 4 роки тому +528

    What Happens When a Movie Has No Script Writer?

    • @sesboks
      @sesboks 4 роки тому +37

      Pretty sure there are a few examples out there...

    • @NG-nf2mz
      @NG-nf2mz 4 роки тому +29

      There are plenty of movies that actually had no script writer and some have even been masterpieces

    • @Lucas-up9wq
      @Lucas-up9wq 4 роки тому +10

      Then there's no movie.

    • @MrC0MPUT3R
      @MrC0MPUT3R 4 роки тому +17

      You get Ghostbusters(2016)

    • @suhasop4919
      @suhasop4919 4 роки тому +5

      Bollywood movies in a nutshell

  • @ivpt
    @ivpt 4 роки тому +22

    The Whip pan felt like it was in the wrong direction.

  • @lexica510
    @lexica510 4 роки тому +182

    I hate the way "handheld" these days is synonymous with "shakycam".
    Also, the whip pan to the phone shouldn't have started before the sound effect.

  • @MrC0MPUT3R
    @MrC0MPUT3R 4 роки тому +106

    Did y'all add the camera shake in post? It keeps moving at 9:07, so either that actor is really good at suddenly going completely still, or some funny business is going on here.

    •  4 роки тому +7

      They snap the time stone

    • @zonzaykay
      @zonzaykay 4 роки тому +20

      In every pause that happens, the actors are just staying still

    • @pwbfirdaus2193
      @pwbfirdaus2193 4 роки тому +1

      ROFL

    • @misham6547
      @misham6547 3 роки тому

      It could be in post just to make sure that the acting and the lighting is the same and the only difference is the camera shake, which actually is pretty smart and gives a good A/B comparison

  • @otum337
    @otum337 4 роки тому +51

    How a script is read has an incredible impact on the way a story is told and can greatly influence the types of boredom the audience will feel. When paired with bad writing and direction, a skilled camera operator can turn an average video into something truly memorable.

    • @charlemarcharlemar2401
      @charlemarcharlemar2401 3 роки тому

      So you think a director is going to allow some camera operator just to do whatever he likes. Understand that so called bad director has no idea he is bad (more likely he thinks he's great) therefore he is not going to give up the control, so as for bad writing but usually that does not get to the set unless it is the director producer or other money person doing the writing. Your proffer supposes the bad director or writer realizes it has an epiphany and lays down on the floor prostrate in contrition. You will never ever see that.

  • @williamruiz5965
    @williamruiz5965 4 роки тому +38

    5:04 Wes Anderson has entered the chat.

    • @johnnycampos1760
      @johnnycampos1760 4 роки тому +1

      Boy that ain't symmetrical at all look at the angle of the shelf

    • @BoshBargnani
      @BoshBargnani 4 роки тому +5

      @@johnnycampos1760 he's saying Wes Anderson does a lot of whip pan

  • @JPLToyExperience
    @JPLToyExperience 4 роки тому +53

    I thought this video was gonna sell me an Artifical Intelligence camera that can act as a camera operator with autonomus function which shoots scenes just like a human would do.

  • @myztik5716
    @myztik5716 4 роки тому +26

    7:09 Quentin Tarantino has entered the chat

    • @DevranUenal
      @DevranUenal 4 роки тому +1

      haha! i was looking for this comment :D

    • @grizzamundo
      @grizzamundo 4 роки тому +1

      That’s what I thought

  • @mikeoxlong9522
    @mikeoxlong9522 3 роки тому +7

    i love how this series tells a story instead of it just being random scenes

  • @SaimanishPrabhakar
    @SaimanishPrabhakar 4 роки тому +60

    Are we all just going to ignore the "Slap my face and call me Charlie" part hahahahha 😂

    • @beapispeapis
      @beapispeapis 4 роки тому

      Best part of the whole video :P

  • @bambangmaulana8121
    @bambangmaulana8121 4 роки тому +125

    I love this kinda type of content

    • @katie-mz6si
      @katie-mz6si 4 роки тому +2

      I love how you said "this kinda type of"

  • @dayflaubert
    @dayflaubert 4 роки тому +34

    "HOW U DOIN"

  • @sketchur
    @sketchur 4 роки тому +15

    2:18 OK, this guy is officially my favorite character of the series! Looking forward to more, Vanity. Loving this series - entertaining and educational!

  • @IranOutofUserNames11
    @IranOutofUserNames11 4 роки тому +340

    So... y’all short staffed or something and you’re trying to convert your audience into employees? Because I need a job so hmu

  • @davidbentley6399
    @davidbentley6399 4 роки тому +11

    The very first example of Perspective, I thought well duh, but once played again, I realize that I actually fell for it! I felt the lawyer had more power and was coming down on the mob guy until they changed that perspective. Wow that really does change the whole impact of a scene!

    • @sunsetman22
      @sunsetman22 4 роки тому +2

      but the lawyer guy seemed to deliver the line in a more menacing tone in the first take, then switch it to a more meek-jokey delivery in the second.

  • @dead2675
    @dead2675 4 роки тому +26

    Can we get netflix series on Joann's fabric

  • @gambello1195
    @gambello1195 4 роки тому +25

    "Lacks stylistic choises"
    The stationary camera could be seen as a stylistic choise

    • @stonemedia8901
      @stonemedia8901 4 роки тому +4

      Realizing the nail filer is conducive to the plot of this short, I would keep the shot on the filer as the hitman moved toward the lawyer. I would've just incorporated a simple pan shot.

    • @OVXX666
      @OVXX666 4 роки тому

      that's what I thought

  • @kartiknamde3862
    @kartiknamde3862 4 роки тому +10

    I cant even imagine how many times these actors would have had to do the same scene

  • @nuansakautsar5687
    @nuansakautsar5687 4 роки тому +25

    We finally found the arson of Joanne's Fabrics...

  • @masterkief628
    @masterkief628 4 роки тому +1

    I love the Whip Pan used in Fight Club.

  • @antonbrask4574
    @antonbrask4574 4 роки тому +2

    This was good! Love when youre able too see before and after, and see the difference it makes instead of just reading or hearing someone explain it. So good!

  • @echoingamy
    @echoingamy 3 роки тому +1

    I still feel like acting and script are the most important

  • @jtapia1123
    @jtapia1123 2 роки тому +1

    This is such an incredible way to teach people film technique. My college only taught hands-off ways of studying scenes (hardly any production.) I always felt studying bad technique is just as important: what not to do. Kudos to the production team here, and the writing staff with this super random jo Ann fabrics storyline. My outburst in jo Ann fabrics is not reflective of who I am.

  • @M_k-zi3tn
    @M_k-zi3tn 4 роки тому +3

    "Slap my face and call me Charlie". I'm gonna use that in my script

  • @gp8189
    @gp8189 4 роки тому +6

    idk who needs to hear this but you NEVER need to do the Paul Greengrass shakey cam thing ever

  • @GuillePozzi
    @GuillePozzi 4 роки тому +2

    I love this reverse films you do

  • @TheFtoty
    @TheFtoty 4 роки тому +4

    Let's do a video about the camera operator and list all the things other people do! Cause why would we mention the dolly grip, DoP, 1st AC, director...

    • @JakeHGuy
      @JakeHGuy 4 роки тому

      Thank you! This video was some of the most misinformed "education" I've seen. These were all director choices. The real problems with not having a camera operator would be lack of focus if there is no First AC and less precise camera move. That's it.

  • @chatter2765
    @chatter2765 4 роки тому +2

    Now this is a kind of lessons I’m into.
    You can learn something by learning what’s not to do.

  • @jokybones
    @jokybones 4 роки тому +1

    8:56 i believe the sudden appear looks to comical

  • @capchaweddings
    @capchaweddings 4 роки тому +1

    This was like taking a beginner's class on camera angles! Too good.

  • @AlversonLayne
    @AlversonLayne 4 роки тому

    Thanks for putting this together VF!
    very informative! So much goes into filmmaking.
    With cameras in virtually everyone’s hands today, it’s easy to miss how many people are involved in making a film.

  • @VarunKumar-qd5wl
    @VarunKumar-qd5wl 4 роки тому +4

    Awesome video.. editing, scripting, acting everything was super awesome 👌. Also gained a lot of knowledge about videographing

  • @wilky1189
    @wilky1189 4 роки тому +13

    Aka every student film

  • @alisaad5940
    @alisaad5940 4 роки тому +2

    when I was young, I thought this was what directors do 🤦‍♂️😁😂

  • @tommegg8486
    @tommegg8486 4 роки тому +1

    The script, the information, the set, everything is genius here. A very meta video, I liked it

  • @Lucas-up9wq
    @Lucas-up9wq 4 роки тому +9

    8:14 just like anything else shown in this video.

  • @holasoyjuansm
    @holasoyjuansm 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this. Fun and with a lot of information. Specially for someone trying to learn filmmaking alone.

  • @maymunak.612
    @maymunak.612 4 роки тому +1

    I would’ve tweaked the lighting too. Gaffer would’ve made this much more interesting. Little more dank & gritty or the grade at least

  • @zach_blackburn
    @zach_blackburn 4 роки тому +1

    Even 4 years of majoring in filmmaking I didn’t learn this much. Stick to watching UA-cam videos to learn this craft everybody, don’t waste your money on school.

    • @zach_blackburn
      @zach_blackburn 4 роки тому

      Drinker_Of_ Milk exactly. My point exactly. I was indeed a waste of time.

  • @akelindstrom1786
    @akelindstrom1786 7 місяців тому

    Tbf, the camera operator doesn’t really have a say in how a scene is shot, they might give an input, but the decision of composition and camera movement is up to the director and cinematographer. However, the camera operator still serves a purpose when executing camera movements as they are precise in their movement.

  • @jokybones
    @jokybones 4 роки тому

    7:16 Edgar wright: Am i a Joke to you

  • @misencadrestudio9364
    @misencadrestudio9364 4 роки тому

    These kind of videos are needed first of all! Do it. Thnx a lot!

  • @LeBeautiful
    @LeBeautiful 4 роки тому +9

    one day we’ll probably witness an Oscar winning film which recorded with all blur

  • @marcelpaige4134
    @marcelpaige4134 4 роки тому +1

    Please do one of these but with music composition for film

  • @cvaeman
    @cvaeman 4 роки тому +1

    Snap zoom seems more effective

  • @nickluthfy706
    @nickluthfy706 4 роки тому +1

    This really be looking like a school short film project lmaooo

  • @stijn4771
    @stijn4771 4 роки тому +2

    Now 'What happens to a movie without actors' please

  • @MM-NolascoPH
    @MM-NolascoPH 6 місяців тому

    I am still waiting for a follow up about the Joann's Fabrics!

  • @tobidaada
    @tobidaada 4 роки тому +3

    This was really well done 👍🏾

  • @rbondy008
    @rbondy008 Рік тому

    The whip to phone felt comedic to me

  • @edgarayala945
    @edgarayala945 4 роки тому +1

    “Now, please hire me. Thank you.” 😊

  • @paul42scott
    @paul42scott 4 роки тому +1

    1st ACs watching at 6:10: 👁👄👁

  • @leer6871
    @leer6871 3 роки тому

    I understand the point of this video but they’re really muddying the positions and responsibilities of a camera operator.
    The decision of if the shot will be a Zoom or a Dolly or a whip pan etc etc falls on the Director and the Director of Photography. The Director explains the vision they have for the story and the DP executes and builds on that vision within the visual language of film.
    A Camera Operator is someone who is given instructions by the DP for how the shot is supposed to go. The DP or the Director might say: “follow this character into the scene until they sit down at the table then when they get up tilt up with them but let them leave frame to the right”
    Some DPs prefer to be the camera operator for a film but not always.
    He also brings up focus, in movies the camera operator is never the one pulling focus (in broadcast it’s a little different). That’s the position of the 1st AC (Focus Puller in the UK).

  • @wesselconway3920
    @wesselconway3920 4 роки тому +1

    Do a production design one next please! Btw these are great

  • @ausrinesveciulyte2331
    @ausrinesveciulyte2331 4 роки тому +1

    I love this series, can you do more?

  • @TrippyVZ
    @TrippyVZ 3 роки тому +1

    This was amazing and the script was actually good ngl makes me want to watch it as a movie

  • @blakestake
    @blakestake 4 роки тому

    okay I admit I haven’t watched the video but the thumbnail is cracking me up. ‘If you don’t have a camera operator your whole movie will be blurry!!’ lol

  • @JonWfwfilm
    @JonWfwfilm 4 роки тому

    Great choice of lenses 8:16 Contax Zeiss 😉

  • @thomazmp
    @thomazmp 4 роки тому +2

    This is amazing! Thank you

  • @gpaderx6105
    @gpaderx6105 4 роки тому

    I tried hand held for my short movie, the movie became an 15-minute documentary of an earthquake

  • @yooyhooh5833
    @yooyhooh5833 4 роки тому +1

    Now it just needs a Director of Photography.

  • @SmadYfire
    @SmadYfire 4 роки тому +1

    This for a Sound Operatior!

  • @juanalbertodesousalugo6847
    @juanalbertodesousalugo6847 4 роки тому

    Why this video wasn't out 4 months ago?
    It would have been a great help for my film appreciation and criticism class

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider1982 4 роки тому

    I wonder if this is the reason why online classes can be confusing: the camera is just the webcam on the instructor's computer. Perhaps there is a need for a camera person, with mask if needed, to make sure the important stuff is focused on.

  • @gvi341984
    @gvi341984 4 роки тому +1

    Handheld jittery cam has ruined so many new Hollywood movies and one can blame Cloverfield for that.

  • @gretapaulding3547
    @gretapaulding3547 4 роки тому +1

    As fascinating as the actual point of this was, at this point I'm way more invested in the storyline than anything else.

  • @BondhuCinemedia
    @BondhuCinemedia 4 роки тому

    So great video for camera angle. Loved it

  • @vayermenoviko0linixD
    @vayermenoviko0linixD 4 роки тому

    "Slap my face and call me Charlie" 😂😂😂

  • @mrflipperinvader7922
    @mrflipperinvader7922 3 роки тому +1

    Imagine if this was a continuous film that evolved throughout these videos
    7:10 those are cool man, Sam Raimi loves those
    Disappointed they didn't talk about a split diopter lens

  • @XaniaProjects
    @XaniaProjects 4 роки тому

    Hmm... Snap zoom seems the right choice...

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider1982 4 роки тому +1

    Hey, this series is still continuing!😄👍

  • @VFXBOYJAPAN
    @VFXBOYJAPAN 3 роки тому

    I appreciated each minute of this video

  • @marioCazares
    @marioCazares 4 роки тому

    Great episode!

  • @adamd416
    @adamd416 4 роки тому +1

    This was excellent!

  • @lowlowseesee
    @lowlowseesee 8 місяців тому

    hes a bad hitman so that original angle makiing him look weak were on point lol. great vid

  • @OVXX666
    @OVXX666 4 роки тому

    SAY HI TO YA MA FOR ME 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @GoddamnAxl
    @GoddamnAxl 4 роки тому

    Thanks and now I can watch a movie and say “Ha! It’s a jib move!”

  • @neonarm8325
    @neonarm8325 4 роки тому

    Excellent video!

  • @BlackEagle352
    @BlackEagle352 4 роки тому +1

    7:18 Quentin Tarantino highly disagrees with this opinion.

    • @geirtwo
      @geirtwo 2 роки тому

      Tarantino is right. A slow zoom is for things that the audience needs to think about for a while, forexample something that have connections with something that happened way earlier in the plot.
      A fast zoom is for something that is important right then and there.

  • @strng7754
    @strng7754 4 роки тому

    Instructions unclear, Accidentally made an another Endgame.

  • @AllemandInstable
    @AllemandInstable 4 роки тому +1

    "slap my face and call me Charlie"

  • @ricsbergramirez3397
    @ricsbergramirez3397 4 роки тому

    This is good advise

  • @letegritime
    @letegritime 4 роки тому

    That's so good!!

  • @Moriarty2007
    @Moriarty2007 4 роки тому

    Great, thanks a lot!

  • @mukkadalarajesh3151
    @mukkadalarajesh3151 4 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @DmitryVolny
    @DmitryVolny 4 роки тому

    Fantastic lesson!

  • @barbarianninj0102
    @barbarianninj0102 4 роки тому +4

    As Alexandre Dumas once said: "This smells, tastes and feels like Tarantino!"

  • @rost3939
    @rost3939 4 роки тому +9

    I hate "whip pan" just cut it!

    • @errhka
      @errhka 4 роки тому +4

      It has its place in a lighter toned or comedy orientated scene. And it shouldn't be overused

  • @Seeattle
    @Seeattle 4 роки тому +1

    There is so much valuable information packed into this video... *now tell me what you know about Joanns Fabrics*

  • @eddiewu2336
    @eddiewu2336 3 роки тому

    Can you please do when a movie has no sound designers

  • @quite1enough
    @quite1enough 4 роки тому +2

    You'll need to watch some Robert Bresson movies. He didn't move a camera without necessity. Too much of visual noise in modern works.

  • @AmanBansil
    @AmanBansil 4 роки тому

    This is soooo interesting. I’m not a pro but I make UA-cam videos. And knowing SOMETHING like like this is really useful.

  • @debuthefilmguy1897
    @debuthefilmguy1897 4 роки тому

    Interesting!!!