She was still a teenager when 90210 started. How many of us screwed up jobs when we were teenagers? One of the seasoned vets should've pulled her aside and had a come to Jesus conversation. Everyone suffered because the show was not as good once she left.
@@jm7804 I find it hard to believe no one did. There were casting people brought to the set when she was behaving badly who had to talk her down. She had an agent, a manager, not to mention her mother had to know what was going on. She had been acting since she was little. She had to know there were ramifications. Perhaps she just wasn’t really listening. Perhaps she was believing herself above it all and bound for bigger and better things. A-List movie roles. She knew she was creating chaos. She just didn’t care.
@@user-hn2od2gt5p You’re actually confirming what I wrote, not countering it. And like I said, she knew she was causing trouble and she knew there could be ramifications for it. In her arrogance, as you confirmed, she didn’t care.
@@user-hn2od2gt5p I’m not misrepresenting what you said. You’re acting like what you said blew holes on my comment when it actually supports my comment. Also, her version is just that. Her version. There’s also the sides of the story from others involved including the producers and casting people. Their perspective is not hard to find.
back then she was a rotten person. i remember her being difficult, and a real snot. she was way over self assured and thought she wasnt replaceable, like most people she found out that she was wrong. she then had developed a bad reputation of being hard to work with, and her career took a hit.nobody's shit doesnt stink!
I think no one wants to mention just how gift and talented SHANNON DOHERTY was/is! Both 90210 and Charmed whet downhill after her firings - she definitely deserves credit for kickstarting both shows with her undeniable talent and beauty!
Very true… I lost interest in 90210 once she left…. I didn’t even know the show had ran as long as it did… who knew that Donna and David eventually married on the show
well millions did watch for 6 years after she left so the show didn’t go downhill. Maybe Shannen should have been more professional and she wouldn’t have been fired from both shows
@@sarge7526I know, I just recently found out that the show went on for 6 more seasons, I had no clue. I checked these other seasons out & pretty much yearned for her character, I just couldn’t get into it. The show was never the same… The 3 characters that had major chemistry on camera was Shannen, Luke & Jason. In the first season when they brought Dylan into Brandon & Brenda’s life you could just feel the fire & connection. I found myself fast forwarding through a lot of the show when they weren’t on screen… RIP Shannen & Luke! ❤❤
Yeah after he left and she left the show was bleeding viewers. The poor writing didn't help. Bringing Luke back living in a trailer doing who knows what didn't help as he was just hanging in the fringe carted out now and then for nostalgia. The show was already dead running on fumes. They introduced new cast but it wasn't the same.
You're so right. The graduation episode is the last I really have found memories of. That was the last time I was really enthusiastic about the show and it was a show I really didn't wanna miss a single episode when it began. @@briandiggs3508
Beverly Hills 90210 was extremely popular in Brazil. I loved all the characters. I was gutted when Dylan and Brenda were no longer together because of Shannen's exit from the show. They were my number 1 couple in my adolescent years. ❤ I'm only 4 years younger than Shannen.
I love that she's having these conversations with her former colleagues. So often this kind of thing becomes gratuitous, but not here--they're having adult, self-aware discussions of the things that happened and leaving them behind. It's a healthy example she's setting for the audience.
@@SeminarioMAE Shannen just died at only age 53! Only TWO of the cast members are 60+. The majority have not even hit 55 yet, so I have zero idea what you are talking about.
As someone who was bullied and rejected by my mates as a child and teen, I relate to Shannen a lot. I was suffering at home, because my mom was a narcissist, but nobody took the time to ask me if something was happening outside school. They only had time to judge.
I know exactly how you feel. My mother is a narcissist. Shit, my whole immediate family, older brother & sister, as well as my biological dad. My mom's 2nd husband was a psychopathic narcissistic drunk. He'd constantly abuse my physically. I'd fight back, and everytime my mom would take his side and call the cops. And everytime I'd go to juvenile jail. I had to deal with that for 6 years.
I wouldn't call leaving here at just 53, a blessing. To depart life before her mother must be, and must've been very difficult for both. She still had goals left that will now go unfulfilled.
Ehi1841. If you had cancer or a loved one with cancer you’d have a deeper appreciation for a woman who is dying for stage 4 cancer who’s had to have breast removed and brain surgery. Your tone is gross. Hope it never happens to you or your loved ones.
She was greatly missed after leaving 90210 and Charmed. Her talent is off the chain and her characters were not replaceable. That’s a testament to her brilliance.
Agree. 90210 went from being truly impactful to being just soap opera type fluff. I stopped watching after Shannon left. I kept watching Charmed, but it was definitely never the same either.
Over 30 years later, I still can’t understand how they just axed the main character in a show. Also the storyline on the show surrounding it was so stupid.
@@harrisonhanson2998 She sure was a little hell-raiser in those days, I remember the stories all too well. She was also rude to young fans, just a real 'B' but she was great at playing Brenda.It's a shame she missed out on so many seasons of 90210 but like she said it wasn't anybody else's fault but her own!
@@harrisonhanson2998 The other members of the cast were one thing. They were all or mostly all spoiled in their own way. It’s the lower people on the production totem pole I’ve heard she was awful to. Anyone with less power than her.
Even though she was a handful onset, the show was never the same after she was fired, and that’s the truth! I was obsessed with the show when I was a teen in the 90s I missed her when she left!:(
Luke left for unknown reason then they sent her character to France then the Walsh parents divorced for some reason and the cast was scattered with their own separate storylines. The writing was all over the place without the loveable charm of the gang. Fans bailed and didn't last much longer. Part of what made Friends such a highly watched show that lasted so long was they kept their 6 key characters together for the full run.
For sure. The issue was her being late in season 4. She was very reliable for seasons 1-3 but when she married a drug addict, her life turned upside down. How she must regret that decision that resulted in a quick divorce and losing her job. She has owned it, but she did say she wished there was a moment when someone said this can’t continue, one more time and you’re outta here. Her father was very sick and some of the reason she was late was because he was in the hospital. To her credit she never listed any of this to the powers that be. She was not a complainer and she probably should have shared what she was going through. When Jason was on the podcast he said he wished he knew what Shan was going through because he could have done something to stick up for her and fix this. The cast had no idea and some of them were very intolerant of what was going on. It’s a pity because that’s when her career became blemished. Aaron Spelling knew she was a great actress and that’s why he cast her as the lead a few years later in charmed. Even with that Blemish, Shan did have the best career and was the best actor in the bunch.
@@moviefan4life166 Thanks for sharing. I didn't know that. She never explained why and back then there was no internet or social media so nobody knew what was going on. She went off to study abroad then the Walsh divorced so everyone just figured it was salary dispute so they were written off the show. Problem was the show lost its heart without Dillon Brenda love triangle and the loveable gang together so didn't last long before it was cancelled. At least she got a second chance with charmed.
I love that Shannen is talking about the hard times in her life and her life now because the media made it seem like she was so hard to work with but that's not the case at all. She is so strong, talented, beautiful and just a kind and loving soul ❤
Agreed. Shan is an amazing actress and was a child one no less. She had a very sick father and had to support her family from day 1. She had a lot of pressure on her, and was ultimately very successful from childhood. She said recently tge world she was thrown into was very alluring. We’ve all seen the photos of her partying with Tori Spelling, BRIAN Austin Greene and Mark Wahlberg. It was probably very hard for a teen to navigate and the tabloids always want to make you look bad. I don’t think I’d want to be that successful and famous at that age.
I cannot believe Shannen passed away today 💔😔this breaks my heart life is so short man Beverly Hills 90210 is forever my show man rest in peace to the 90s queen
I so Remember this as a child. I really felt for Shannen. Their was so many stories going around where she was Jealous of the other cast mates. Nasty to people on set. No one wanted to work with her because she did not get a long with others. Brenda was an important character to the show. When I think of that era, I think of Beverly Hills 90210. I would like to see Jamie Walters on her Podcast too. I feel for what happened to him back in the day also. People turned on him because of how he treated Donna on the show. But they were only playing characters & that's not who he was in real life.
I didn't watch the show, but she was also in the tabloids for her behavior and life outside of the show. Then similar types of stories popped up when she acted on a different show, again leaving the cast abruptly. I rarely trust tabloids, but I did see an interview with a landlord that was suing her or unpaid rent and because she damaged his rental property. He showed pictures of a filthy house that had dog excrement, stained carpet, filth and garbage left behind etc. It didn't help her reputation for being problematic. That story stuck out in my mind because I thought that someone with money could get an assistant to pay bills, dog walkers for pets, and maids to keep the house clean.
Ppl are literally so dumb when they hate on an actor cuz of the character they play.. its like hey.. thats just good acting. They are not really that person.
There was no social media back then so never heard of any of this. Wondered why they sent her character to France or something and then Luke disappeared somewhere and just thought it was terrible writing so lost interest in the show. Fans bailed and I think it was cancelled couple seasons later.
Brian has stood by her since Luke died and probably before . Luke was upset when she got fired he went to the producers supposedly and told them so too I can see that
Oh interesting ...ok so Luke Perry stuck up for Doherty . Hmm ok so I know who the girls were jealous of and why . Him standing up for her after she left the show says a lot
@@EastSide-qc5oy Exactly but being late to set all the time costs time and money. They miss the daylight they need or sunrise/sunset they need. The others get left waiting for her. How long would any of us last if we were constantly late to work and causing trouble there? She didn't seem to get along with any of the other girls - at some point you have to think, it can't be everyone else, maybe it's me - and make an effort to change your attitude. Sad that she has passed and none of this matters now. For me, when Jason left the show was not the same. They also added characters that were rubbish like Sophie and Gina and Matt and Noah, Camille, Val totally made me want to run on to the next segment.
My favorite childhood show. I'm never the type to fan over celebs or anyone else. The most is just me appreciating their work and expressing to others. But if I ever was into a show, it was Beverly Hills 90210. I loved everyone like Brenda, Brandon, and Dillion were my favorite. And when Dillion cheated with her best friend Kelley that summer, I was done with that show. I was upset at both characters and more at kelley. I didn't get back to that show until they were in college. But I did go back watch some reruns and tried to watch the show with new people. Yeah, the writers were that good, I'm sure they didn't plan on loosing viewers but later I learned she wasn't professional and now we know why. Thank you for Sharing Shannon and may God cover you with His Grace, 🙏!
It wasn't a childhood show but i can get where you're coming from. I was i think 12 years old when i was hooked into it, especially season 2 so many good ones that season. Emily doing a major stalking job on Brandon, Scott's suicide, the track team on steroids ( that's one of my favorite " you better tell your friend Walsh to watch his back haha" noooooooo i did it man i told Brandon it's me guys i'm the one you wanna kill" don't blow this Kyle" those typical high school pompous jocks of the 90s' lol.
It’s funny how these celebrities feel so omnificent…until they’re not. Then they’re always: ‘misunderstood, coming from a bad place, going through a rough patch,’ but they never just say: ‘“I was a bitch to get along with or I felt entitled or spoiled.”’
Honestly I would have SO much more respect for her if she would just say "I was an entitled bitch and I am truly sorry. My behavior sucked then and I am still a bit of a narc now". Like just be honest dude.
Agreed. A little bit of rewriting history. Plus, at work I wouldn’t give a fuck if the person in the cube next to me was going thru a bad divorce if they were late all the time, acting like a complete bitch around the office, causing the team to miss deadlines. I would care as a person but as a colleague, your personal life is just that. Personal. She’s still not understanding that her personal issues are not something you bring to to the “office”. Her behavior was inexcusable, she would have gotten fired in an office environment too.
@@jenniferbond7073I agree, and now because she has cancer, people can’t call her out on her behaviour back then because they can’t be seen as the person who picks on a sick person. Narcissists like to rewrite history and play the victim.
I will say this, I grew up watching Bev Hills 90210 and my favorites were Dylan and Brenda. Tjough i continued watching the show after sge was fired, it was Never the same. I love watching Shannen on Little House on the Prairie.
Maxfrax333. Do you realize how you come across? You really shouldn’t go to every video related to Shannen and say the same toxic story. Look at comicon from this month and watch Jennie Garth saying the show went downhill after Shannen left and how she wishes Shannen stayed. This speaks volumes. Shan always had great relationships with all of the guys on the show and is best friends with Ian and Brian Austin Greene, and was close with Luke and discussing a show he personally wanted to do with her. Brian Austin Greene said he did the same things Shan did and was never let go. He didn’t even have to audition for the show. Shan was a child star who had to financially support her family because he dad had very serious health problems. She had huge amounts of pressure on her since she was a kid. When Winona Ryder was asked about Shannen on Heathers she said she seemed very hard working and was always practicing her during the shoot. Everyone minus Alyssa liked and respected her on Charmed. Anyssa has owned that she was insecure and wished she didn’t view Shan as a competitor. Alyssa only came on charmed because another actress pulled out and she always felt like second choice and her ego wanted. To be the star and get first on the credits. She got what she wanted. All of the stars and staff on Charmed confirmed this. Shan was a very hard worker with high standards and was directing episodes. Alyssa meanwhile had a toxic mother who tried to sever the friendship between Holly and Shan. Holly and Shan are very tight and Alyssa is not friends with any of the cast nor will she appear with any of the cast at events because they all cannot stand her. Meanwhile the full cast of 90210 are all embracing and enjoying Shan. I’ve had interactions with her and can she she’s always been sweet and seems to have a very good sense of humor.
@@moviefan4life166 I also saw an interview with Deidre Hall who worked with Shannon on Our house and although she didn’t say much she stated that Shannon was “ misunderstood “. I don’t know what happened on Charmed as i wasn’t really into the show but judging by how Alissa has reacted over the last few years your comments don’t shock me.
@@moviefan4life166 I am coming across as truthful - exactly as the way she was reported as being during her days on "90210". I don't think I am going on every Shannen video and posting the same comment (or same "toxic story" as you call it). Based on your comment, you sound like her publicist. Maybe you should go back and read some articles posted about her during "those days" and why Aaron Spelling fired her.
They should have worked things out with her - and had her take a few episodes off to deal with personal matters and then had her come back. The show was NEVER as good without her.
I agree totally! There had to be some type of non permanent dismissal, it’s not like she was an extra they could sadly still let go, she was 90210 ya know❤ maybe a few months to work out what she was going through and they could have said she was in Paris in the storyline where she once went
Listen to the 90210 Show podcast. They tried. She didn’t make it easy for them. And she complained about the show and said she was unhappy being on the show and everyone knew it.
Unfortunately, I do believe that all of the "stories" about her antics backstage at 90210 were true. She believed that she WAS 90210 and that the show wouldn't be able to go on without her. I was a kid when all of her drama played out in the media and it was one thing after the other with her: On set antics, bar fights, boyfriend, husband issues, etc. It's easy for her to apologize NOW. Yes, they wanted to get rid of her for awhile on that show and I believe that they pondered recasting Tiffani Thiessen as the new Brenda initially. Tiffani was immensely popular on "Saved By the Bell." I feel bad about her current predicament, but Shannon caused a lot of drama back in those days. It was in the media everyday back then and it did contribute to the popularity of "90210" back then.
To be fair Spelling gave her another show later so I suspect they worked things out. Also she said Luke Perry actually went to see her during her cancer treatment unexpectedly.
@@suzannec8400 He did give her another show but then she did her share to blow that one up too. A shame because she was great as Prue. With a little maturity she became a better actress by then, compared to 90210. (She was good as Brenda but she also had a tendency at times to be a little wooden and unconvincing.)
There is nothing at this point in time that would ever make me look at Shannen and think anything but love and gratitude for all of the hours fun and excitement that she and her co star's gave me over the years, lots of memories, same goes for Luke Perry, love both of you and always will...
Beautiful comment. If everyone thought like you we’d have one amazing world. Shan has been working since age 10 to support her family and has had an amazing relationship with her mom and dad. She had to be an adult at the expense of not really getting to be a kid. She like all of us has had some moments where looking back she’d love to do it differently but she’s a really great actress and she’s a lovely woman.
Honestly, most people know if you come to work late regularly you will be fired. Not to mention what would have been a very tense environment on the set the more fed up people were with it. I can't imagine she was fired with zero warning...if for no other reason than the impact to the show when a main character is abruptly axed. Lesser things have effected ratings.
I dunno.... Hollywood aren't exactly known for having HR departments or employment/disciplinary policies (other than a contract for the show they're working on), especially back in the 80s/90s. Also, actors are self employed, which would make them contractors (rather than full time employees) - which is also why they need an agent and their own accountant. I'm a contractor, and although not the same industry, I'm guessing the less tolerant terms of contract (compared to permanent employees) applies to contractors in any industry. There are clauses in our contracts which states that the "end client" (employer) is entitled to abruptly end the contract whenever they want. It also usually states that if the contractor wants to leave they only need to give 1-2 weeks notice (rather than a month that full time employees are expected to give). I've witnessed my contractor coworkers be asked to leave without warning due to continuous lateness and/or too many sick days. One day they're there, the next day, everyone's asking "where's Charlie?" Lol!
Not really. She’s done 90210 new series with Jennie Garth quite a few years ago in the next gen version, and she did the 90210 reboot with the cast a few years ago. She’s got a nice relationship with everyone on 90210 these days. Bottom line they all regret her leaving and Jennie Garth said so at the April Comicon where the two sat next to each other and were very supportive of one another. As for charmed, the cast all dislike Alyssa. That’s why she is the only one who won’t appear with them because she was toxic and still seems to be based on messages Holly mentioned she recently received. Hollywood sucks. Women are made to compete and not until these women are older do they seem to find real peace.
@@moviefan4life166 that's irrelevant. I am obviously talking at the time she was fired. It was all over the press. You can still read about it. How they made up today is irrelevant. But she was fired because she was difficult to work with and hated by most of her on screen and off screen entourage. That's just a fact, whether you like it or not, once again is irrelevant.
It's just like that - people who have a direct and non-conformist personality are quickly seen as uncomfortable or capricious in those around them. This is actually very unfortunate. Because we humans are always told that we should be authentic. If it's us then it's not right either. I just hope that Shannen, who was born in my class, has many more good years ahead of her - despite her serious illness ❤🍀💪🏻🙏🏻!!! Shannen - there was always a little bit of you in the character Brenda and we celebrated you very much for that back then!!!
Give me a break. There’s a difference between being “direct and authentic” and just being an arrogant selfish a-hole. Are you one of those people who prides themselves on being “direct and authentic” but is viewed by many people as being an arrogant selfish a-hole? Guess what, you might actually just be an arrogant selfish a-hole.
Right but if someone (not only Shannen but anyone) has a blunt and direct personality it can and will make others uncomfortable. And it can hurt other people's feelings. So people have to know that if they choose to be like that there will be consequences to that. Maybe blunt non-conformists should hang out with other blunt non-conformists:). That might be easier.
@@denisealexis4025 Good point. I’ll take it a step further and add that in my experience some people, not all but some, who describe themselves as “honest and direct” are actually just jerks making excuses for themselves and their jerk behavior, and they want others to see their jerk behavior as a virtue. It’s not a virtue.
@@EastSide-qc5oy EXACTLY 💯. It's NOT a virtue to be a jerk. And the other thing that irks me is if you try to be as "direct" with these people they actually get offended lol. People are actually unbelievable! That's why I enjoy animals and children so much. 😂
We are the same age. Shannon first impressed me in a Father Murphy 2 parter. Wonderful acting. Then Litlle House, Our House and then 90210. She just has Star quality. Back then i hated hearing about the car crash her career was turning into and hoped it wud stop. Id love a 90210 reboot. Sending love Shannen. ❤️
I wasn't the biggest Shannen fan, but I was a fan of 90210 and Charmed. You rarely get the real story about celebrities, but I decided that the storyies about her attitude had to be true when she was fired from Charmed. It was clear she was a diva and did not learn her lesson after 90210. That being said, I do not wish cancer on anyone and it is a terrible shame what she has had to endure and what is coming. No one deserves her fate.
Shannon made life difficult during 90210 but it has become clear Alyssa Milano was the issue on Charmed and is largely why Shannon got fired. Holly Marie Combs has told the truth about that. Alyssa was the problem and told the producers either she goes or Shannon goes and if they fire her (Alyssa) she would sue them. She basically backed them into a corner.
@@flagler88 That’s not accurate. There were a lot of problems on the Charmed set. The producers helped create some of the toxicity there, both Shannen and Holly have confirmed that. Alyssa and Shannen got along at first but by the second-third season they didn’t. Alyssa may very well have been a diva in her own way but that doesn’t mean it was all on her. Shannen played her own part in how that played out. She was frequently butting heads with production and they eventually got tired of her. Whether or not the story is true that Alyssa issued an ultimatum to the show (“either she goes or I go”) it’s only Holly telling us that one producer told her that. There’s no way I’ll ever believe after the havoc Shannen stirred up on the 90210 set that just a few short years later on Charmed she was suddenly a different person and behaved like an angel.
@@flagler88 Did you listen to the entire podcast between Holly and Shannen? Because much of what I wrote above is supported by her comments. And she’s made other comments elsewhere in interviews that support what I’m saying. Did you know even Holly and Shannen had a falling out not too long ago and weren’t speaking and referred to each other in interviews as basically not friends anymore? They’ve since patched things up apparently but there were more issues between all these women than just one person. Oh and Holly even admitted that there was friction between her and Shannen on the Charmed set. Oh sure but it was all Alyssa being the problem on Charmed. B.S. And I say that not to defend Milano because like I said she may very well have had her diva moments but with all that’s come out about Shannen you’d have to be crazy to think it was all Alyssa’s fault on Charmed.
@@EastSide-qc5oy I think her firing was all Alyssa's fault, yes. You choose to believe certain things some producers say and not others and are judging Shannon on past behaviour and assuming after 6 years she couldn't change. They also talked about Alyssa's possessive nature and her being jealous of Shannon. Feel free to mostly blame Shannon for this but I don't. I believe Alyssa had her fired regardless of whatever else was going on.
Shannen Doherty says she cried “every single night” while filming Season Two of “Charmed.” During the week episode of her podcast, “Let’s Be Clear With Shannen Doherty,”the 52-year-old spoke with former co-star Holly Marie Combs about behind-the-scenes tension on the early 2000s hit specifically the”lack of female support” with Alyssa Milano. During the first season of Charmed, Combs underwent surgery to remove a uterine tumor, which brought filming to a temporary stop. Doherty explained on her podcast that she tried to visit her friend and fellow actor in the hospital post procedure, but said Milano got in the way.”I waited 24 hours after your surgery to go, and then it wasn’t even easy for me to get in. I was being told I couldn’t even get in by Alyssa and her mom,"Doherty said. "They were blocking people from seeing you but at the time, you didn't know.” Following the situation at the hospital, Doherty and Combs, 50, experienced a strain in their relationship that led into the next season of the show. I remembered you texted me and were like, ‘Dude, are you going to come and see me? And I can feel your pain of feeling like I’d abandoned you,” Doherty said to Combs.”But I also felt like my anger at the situation of not being allowed to come see you, and how sort of family had swooped in and caused this sort of weird divide between the two of us that then continued throughout Season 2 where I cried every single night.TODAY” reached out to Milano about Doherty’s podcast remarks but did not receive a response. As the original “power of three” sisters on the show, Doherty played Prue, Combs portrayed Piper and Milano took on Phoebe, all of whom discovered that they were witches. After 3 seasons, Doherty left “Charmed"and was replaced by Rose McGowan’s character, Paige. Doherty previously attributed her departure to according to ET interview.”There was too much drama on the set and not enough passion for the work,”she said at the time. Milano addressed her co-star's departure in an interview with Entertainment Weekly, saying, I’m very laid-back and passive. I have my Buddha. I come in here and meditate (Shannen has) got a lot of energy, she’s very headstrong, she wants to get the job done. But 20 years later, Milano told ET in a 2021 interview that the two of them were on better terms. Shannen said hinted during this week's episode of her podcast that she doesn't expect a reconciliation with Milano any time soon.”I heard that she addressed it the competitiveness in her book,"Doherty said, referring to Milano’s 2021 book "Sorry Not Sorry."”Obviously, I’m never reading her book because it’s (called) "Sorry, Not Sorry." So right there, you know, it tells me you’re not freaking sorry. When Doherty asked her about her take on the drama surrounding Season Two, Combs took a rather neutral position, but didn't shy away from admitting there was tension. Combs said Doherty, was fired despite from the show despite saying she quit after its third season. Combs also recalled a conversation she had with”Charmed" producer Jonathan Levin, who allegedly told her that Milano threatened to sue for hostile workplace environment if Doherty wasn't fired from the show. He said, you know, We're basically in a position where it's one or the other. We were told [by Alyssal that it's Shannen or me, and Alyssa has threatened to sue us if we didn’t fire Shannen. Well, like my parents used to tell me “its not everybody else its you!"So when Shannon, Holly and Rose have all come out and said Alyssa a B...l'm going to say that girl is probably a B. It appears the real Book of Shadows has finally been un-veiled.
Yeah it was also Alyssa’s fault that everyone got sick of Shannen on the set of 90210 and wanted her fired. And earlier than that, when 90210 was brand new and casting for Brenda and considering Shannen, casting director Joanna Ray received a call from a producer saying “whatever you do, do not hire that girl.” Yup that was all Alyssa too.
@@lolayaiii5056 I was being sarcastic. It clearly had nothing to do with Alyssa Milano when Shannen had problems on the set of 90210. Shannen’s weird fans always blame everyone but Shannen.
@@EastSide-qc5oyWhy is it that Shannen has made peace with her 90210 co stars and are all friends now? Because clearly they were able to talk it out and Jennie actually made a real apology to Shannen for her part too, now on Charmed, all the regular cast members have an issue with Alyssa now, Shannen, Holly, Rose, Brian, Drew all don’t get on with her, this shows that on charmed Alyssa was the problem
mostly because they would rather pay you 2 weeks in lieu than have the person cause trouble or destroy documents or files or delete things that the company needs. They don't want you there once they terminate you and that is understandable. Most people would never do anything to retaliate but unfortunately some would so they safeguard themselves.
This is just proof that when a colleague or friend is pissing you off, you never now what is going on their personal lives. Some people are able to share and get that support, and some people struggle with that. I am happy she is able to tell her truth and get some support from her friends and former co-stars.
IF YOU LOOK AT HER DURING THE INTERVIEW, her face looks so fatigued for being sick for so long and she caked herself with makeup to try and cover it up. Plus, you can tell she is wearing a Whig. Lets be clear. Most celebrities going through what she did and was currently dealing with would drop out of the spotlight because they would want to be remembered for how they used to look. Shannen still wanted to be out there and that makes her so strong. She had things to express and say. She didn't care how sick she was. I find that so amazing.
I don't understand why she thought she deserved a stern talking to when she showed up late for work and also clashed with co-workers. Shannen developed a bad reputation and was fired from job after job, was arrested multiple times, was married or engaged ten times, and caused chaos on multiple sets. As talented as she was (and she clearly was), she surrounded herself with drama. No amount of lectures would have changed her bad on-set attitude, and we know this because she was fired from multiple shows: she never learned.
Shannen was AWFUL back in the day. Now she is trying to rewrite the past. She was fired from 90210 and Charmed for being difficult to work, drunk, and volatile. And she was always in the tabloids for getting into fist fights and getting DUIs. She got arrested more than once. Why is everyone trying so hard to paint a new picture of her? She was who she was. She may have grown up since then but DON'T LIE.
Well it's always ASSUMED that if u are DIFFICULT, u are gonna be FIRED! I don't think anyone needs to be SAT down to be told. I am pretty sure from what I've recalled in past she was WARNED several times and she still pushed EVERYONE's BUTTONS!
Correct. I also remember that during the early 1990s she was charged for being involved in a publicized bar brawl. Also, a boyfriend of hers made a petition to the Superior Court of California for a domestic-violence restraining order against Shannen. Her personal life and legal problems obviously affected her work, hence she was fired.
@@sonjasanchez3233 At least you remember most of it, I was too young for all it. But I do remember most of her fellow cast members have had enough of her antics. She was Lindsay Lohan before there was a Lindsay Lohan. And just like Lindsay, she was beautiful, talented and unfortunately messed up!
@@EastSide-qc5oy Yep but I don't thing Alyssa is a nice person either. Lots of jealousy and cattiness between women on these shows - isn't the same with the guys
@@heather6668 In Alyssa’s case I think it was just a matter of Shannen meeting her match. As for the guys, they can get jealous and competitive with each other, they perhaps just express it differently.
@@EastSide-qc5oy Everyone has that when they maybe feel insecure or not as good as the others. They don't all behave like she did. Jennie doesn't sound like she was very nice either to be fair. It's an ensemble cast in these things and it's not and shouldn't be a competition. For me, I wasn't a fan of Dylan on the show, preferred Brandon, thought Steve was an imbecile and David was just there. The girls all came across as not that nice except Donna who was too sweet to be true. I did like the show but no business will keep someone on the payroll if they're causing trouble.
Personal life has nothing to do with professional life. Every person who has a job also has personal problems. You don't use those as an excuse to not do your job, or make your co-workers have to suffer or work harder or work in a bad environment because of your own personal problems.
when Shannon left.. 90210 just lost it's spark. it wasn't the same anymore. tiffany was a great addition - I loved her! but it became a different show without Brenda.
Yep. Tis fact. She just said at comicon this week when asked which episode was her favorite, she said definitely not the last one because I had no idea it was my last one. She did it to herself, but the show should have at least had a sit down. Aaron Spelling knew he made a mistake and in time the whole cast knew. Shan was responsible but after 4 hit seasons, she was the lead and should have at least been told one more time and the done. There was mixed feelings about this because none of the guys wanted her off the show. Tori was friends with Shan and Jennie and Jennie was really not happy with things. Tori told her father he needs to do something and that’s what happened. In hindsight Jennie and Tori but wish she had stayed and have said so multiple times including Jennie saying it at comicon this month. She and Shan are on great terms now and it meant a lot to Shan. There was a lot of pressure on these stars truly.
I love Shannen as an actress but also as a person who is very authentic and honest. She is also extremely talented, Beverly Hills and Charmed were not the same after she left and that is a testament to her acting skills and presence. Wish her only the best.
I'm surprised other cast members (Kelly and Donna) haven't supported her in her cancer battle. I've never heard them talk about Shannon or give her any public support which would have been nice
I’m pretty sure most of them have made statements on social media supporting her. Even Jennie who she somewhat famously did not get along with on set. Jennie actually wrote a pretty touching tribute to her, acknowledging the past troubles but framing them in a positive way (like I now look up to you and respect you even though we got in each other’s way back then, kind of thing). That said, based on things Jennie and Tori have said in interviews, it doesn’t sound like either of them are particularly close with her. They all have a bond as a group, but not necessarily a close friendship between all of them all the time.
I grew up with 90210. I used to watch it ferverously back in the first 3 seasons. Sad to hear what happened to Shannen Doherty and Luke Perry. They were a part of my teen years. RIP to both what a tragedy for them to die so young. Some of the best episodes of this series was in Seasons 1 &2. Great acting those first 3 seasons.
She has no one to blame but herself. She was late to work all the time, she was nasty to her coworkers, she was demanding and a burden. It was hardly the first job she's been fired from due to her personality.
Thanks for bringing to light the drama dv can cause, I've lost a job for the exact same thing just earlier this year. 4 minutes late from arguments and gaslighting.
The sad thing is that kids these days will never have the types of TV shows we grew up with that truly was about mixing entertainment and real life themes. They helped us cope and grow up. These days it’s all just cut up into 40 second tik tocs. So sad.
That show never got the same fame as it did with the original cast. I grew up watching this show and every spin off. I've even been to Beverly Hills and took the tour back in the 90's with my mom. I'm the same age as these people and there has always been controversy with the cast. If Shannen needs to talk about it and get in a better place, godspeed girl. #goat
Shannon has evolved and I definitely wish her the best. But it's no secret that she was difficult back in the day and there were numerous anecdotes of her not being a very kind person. I hope she can make her peace. 🙏🙏🏾🙏🏻
I am a huge Shannen fan , at the end of the day she was an adult on a hit show causing them time and money each day while waiting for her to show up. At that time honestly if someone had sat her down - I don't think she would have listened - I think the behavior would have gotten worse!
She needed someone to actually tell her she couldn’t do all the stuff she was doing or she was gonna get fired? Common sense should have told her that!
I don't know if Shannon knew how popular she was and notorious at the same time in the 90s! I remember I seeing her on the front of tabloid seeing her on TV in entertainment clips. To me she was the most famous cast member of 90210 at that time.
Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like Shannen may still be carrying a lot of resentment & animosity towards the past. Don’t get me wrong, I loved her as an actress, when she starred in both BH 90210 & Charmed; but she was fired from both for a reason. I pray that God rid her of this terrible disease soon. With that said, I hope she can take some responsibility for some of the things that went wrong with her past. I hope she can forgive; let go of the resentment & animosity. I hope she can find peace and finally move on from all of it.
Well when 90% of it is fake tabloid reporting and you take your career seriously and fans of both shows ask you what really happened for 30 years….i get why she wants to be real. She had to eve face and just say she moved on all this time. She’s always been direct and clear.
I get she has regrets and a sore spot for what happened due to her behavior and lifestyle back then, but I learned yrs ago to move on and keep the past the past, reaching out for closure doesn't do much good, as most ppl from 10-30 yrs ago wish you no harm but have more than likely 100% moved on and made new friends and memories and forgot about you except maybe a fleeting memory of a good time or times you shared. The only ppl that look back are ppl with regrets or are unfulfilled due to factors they chose, happy ppl don't have much time for yesterdays and what it's, they are too busy living life and enjoying family etc.
You are right, she is just trying to make peace with it because of her illness.....illness does not automatically make you a nice person all of a sudden..... I once had a co-worker with MS, he was the most horrible person on earth also before and during......
No one needed to sit her down and do anything. She really needed to be an adult and own up to her mistakes. She screwed up on this show and Charmed and blames everyone else but herself. She was only in the industry because of her parents.
You obviously didn’t listen to the Podcast and just twisting what she said. She took responsibility for what she did! And was apologizing to Jason. And it takes a LOT of courage for her to admit it’s her fault even when the reason for her lateness was her abusive husband and her father being very sick. And that thing with Charmed - Alyssa was shady as hell. She played into the show’s toxic executives.
everybody who debut as kids do it because of their parents. If Michael Jackson debuted as adult he hadn't become so famous people won't belie if you say you haven't heard of him
I pray for her salvation, and that she will be able to let go of all unforgiveness & bitterness. I love her, she is a brilliant actress, my daughter has the same name.
She was my favorite character. Show wasn't the same without her.
Charmed was also never the same without Shannen. Her absences spoke to the magnitude of her incredible talent.
After she left ratings dropped the writing suffered and the whole show dynamic didn't seem the same and only survived two more seasons.
I agree the dynamic wasn't the same, but the show lasted another 6 seasons.@@jonfreeman9682
@@jonfreeman9682untrue. She did 4 seasons of 90210 and the show ran for 10 seasons. She was in three seasons of charmed and the show lasted 8.
Agreed 💯I used to LOVE 90210
I think it's really important that Shannen is able to talk about the past and have a closure with the other cast members.
She was still a teenager when 90210 started. How many of us screwed up jobs when we were teenagers? One of the seasoned vets should've pulled her aside and had a come to Jesus conversation. Everyone suffered because the show was not as good once she left.
@@jm7804 I find it hard to believe no one did. There were casting people brought to the set when she was behaving badly who had to talk her down. She had an agent, a manager, not to mention her mother had to know what was going on. She had been acting since she was little. She had to know there were ramifications. Perhaps she just wasn’t really listening. Perhaps she was believing herself above it all and bound for bigger and better things. A-List movie roles. She knew she was creating chaos. She just didn’t care.
@@user-hn2od2gt5p You’re actually confirming what I wrote, not countering it. And like I said, she knew she was causing trouble and she knew there could be ramifications for it. In her arrogance, as you confirmed, she didn’t care.
@@user-hn2od2gt5p I’m not misrepresenting what you said. You’re acting like what you said blew holes on my comment when it actually supports my comment. Also, her version is just that. Her version. There’s also the sides of the story from others involved including the producers and casting people. Their perspective is not hard to find.
back then she was a rotten person. i remember her being difficult, and a real snot. she was way over self assured and thought she wasnt replaceable, like most people she found out that she was wrong. she then had developed a bad reputation of being hard to work with, and her career took a hit.nobody's shit doesnt stink!
That show was never the same after she left!
The same with charmed
Yes it was
And without Luke the heart of the show was gone.
@@jonfreeman9682 lies he was not
My life hasn't been the same after she died. I know it's mental but I've just been going through intense grief.
I think no one wants to mention just how gift and talented SHANNON DOHERTY was/is! Both 90210 and Charmed whet downhill after her firings - she definitely deserves credit for kickstarting both shows with her undeniable talent and beauty!
absolutely true
Agreee
Very true… I lost interest in 90210 once she left…. I didn’t even know the show had ran as long as it did… who knew that Donna and David eventually married on the show
well millions did watch for 6 years after she left so the show didn’t go downhill.
Maybe Shannen should have been more professional and she wouldn’t have been fired from both shows
@@sarge7526I know, I just recently found out that the show went on for 6 more seasons, I had no clue. I checked these other seasons out & pretty much yearned for her character, I just couldn’t get into it. The show was never the same…
The 3 characters that had major chemistry on camera was Shannen, Luke & Jason.
In the first season when they brought Dylan into Brandon & Brenda’s life you could just feel the fire & connection. I found myself fast forwarding through a lot of the show when they weren’t on screen… RIP Shannen & Luke! ❤❤
The show wasn’t the same
without her or Luke Perry(when he first left).
Even when he returned,
the damage was done.
I agree! But I also believe the show wasn't same too once they graduated Highschool. It didn't have the same Spark
Yeah after he left and she left the show was bleeding viewers. The poor writing didn't help. Bringing Luke back living in a trailer doing who knows what didn't help as he was just hanging in the fringe carted out now and then for nostalgia. The show was already dead running on fumes. They introduced new cast but it wasn't the same.
You're so right. The graduation episode is the last I really have found memories of. That was the last time I was really enthusiastic about the show and it was a show I really didn't wanna miss a single episode when it began. @@briandiggs3508
Tiffany Amber Thiessen's character Valery was cool lol she was The Next Bad Girl After Brenda 😁
@@briandiggs3508just like saved by the bell, after high school wasnt the same
After she was fired the show went downhill.
Just like.charmed did, was never the same
@@AmuroGermany Perhaps in quality, depends on who you ask. But both shows continued to do well in the ratings and ran for years after she left.
Maybe it quality, but it ran for six more years after she left
That true
she has charisma but she also is a pain in the butt
Beverly Hills 90210 was extremely popular in Brazil. I loved all the characters. I was gutted when Dylan and Brenda were no longer together because of Shannen's exit from the show. They were my number 1 couple in my adolescent years. ❤ I'm only 4 years younger than Shannen.
I love that she's having these conversations with her former colleagues. So often this kind of thing becomes gratuitous, but not here--they're having adult, self-aware discussions of the things that happened and leaving them behind. It's a healthy example she's setting for the audience.
well they're old enough to be grandparents now
Its a good thing to reminisce the good times the golden era of the past but its mixed with bittersweet memories.
@@SeminarioMAE Shannen just died at only age 53! Only TWO of the cast members are 60+. The majority have not even hit 55 yet, so I have zero idea what you are talking about.
@@carrietremble ok thanks i've edited my original comment
@@SeminarioMAEthey definitely are!!! Loll
As someone who was bullied and rejected by my mates as a child and teen, I relate to Shannen a lot. I was suffering at home, because my mom was a narcissist, but nobody took the time to ask me if something was happening outside school. They only had time to judge.
I had a similar situation in school with my peers. They didn't understand that I had a violent alcoholic at home. It's still painful to think about
I hope all is well now for the both of you
🙏🏽
@@felixthecat2786🙏🏽
I know exactly how you feel. My mother is a narcissist. Shit, my whole immediate family, older brother & sister, as well as my biological dad. My mom's 2nd husband was a psychopathic narcissistic drunk. He'd constantly abuse my physically. I'd fight back, and everytime my mom would take his side and call the cops. And everytime I'd go to juvenile jail. I had to deal with that for 6 years.
She is blessed. Not many people have the chance to say their goodbyes, apologise, clear things out before they pass on to the other side!!!!
I'm glad she created that opportunity for herself.
I wouldn't call leaving here at just 53, a blessing. To depart life before her mother must be, and must've been very difficult for both. She still had goals left that will now go unfulfilled.
@@travelseatsyellowlab Yeah you have a point here. 53 is way too soon, given people can live up to 95....
Totally agree, it was a blessing to have that opportunity! And what a life she lived even if it was only until the age of 53… RIP Shannen❤
I get so much healing from her podcast. I wish nothing but the best for her.
She’s just someone who was in a teenopera,30 years ago.
Ehi1841. If you had cancer or a loved one with cancer you’d have a deeper appreciation for a woman who is dying for stage 4 cancer who’s had to have breast removed and brain surgery. Your tone is gross. Hope it never happens to you or your loved ones.
Update: she died
She was greatly missed after leaving 90210 and Charmed. Her talent is off the chain and her characters were not replaceable. That’s a testament to her brilliance.
Agree. 90210 went from being truly impactful to being just soap opera type fluff. I stopped watching after Shannon left. I kept watching Charmed, but it was definitely never the same either.
@@jordansjul 👍😊
Over 30 years later, I still can’t understand how they just axed the main character in a show. Also the storyline on the show surrounding it was so stupid.
Bc she was the most difficult person to work with w the entire cast & even so many others on the other side of the camera.
@@harrisonhanson2998 She sure was a little hell-raiser in those days, I remember the stories all too well. She was also rude to young fans, just a real 'B' but she was great at playing Brenda.It's a shame she missed out on so many seasons of 90210 but like she said it wasn't anybody else's fault but her own!
@@harrisonhanson2998 The other members of the cast were one thing. They were all or mostly all spoiled in their own way. It’s the lower people on the production totem pole I’ve heard she was awful to. Anyone with less power than her.
She was difficult to deal with and she admits that. I respect her honesty.
She was also difficult on Charmed. At least she admits it now
Even though she was a handful onset, the show was never the same after she was fired, and that’s the truth! I was obsessed with the show when I was a teen in the 90s I missed her when she left!:(
You are right. I hated when it became the Kelly and Brandon show. Shannen was a handful but she is an excellent actress.
It wasn't the same as well once they graduated Highschool. The show success was based around that era
Luke left for unknown reason then they sent her character to France then the Walsh parents divorced for some reason and the cast was scattered with their own separate storylines. The writing was all over the place without the loveable charm of the gang. Fans bailed and didn't last much longer. Part of what made Friends such a highly watched show that lasted so long was they kept their 6 key characters together for the full run.
For sure. The issue was her being late in season 4. She was very reliable for seasons 1-3 but when she married a drug addict, her life turned upside down. How she must regret that decision that resulted in a quick divorce and losing her job. She has owned it, but she did say she wished there was a moment when someone said this can’t continue, one more time and you’re outta here. Her father was very sick and some of the reason she was late was because he was in the hospital. To her credit she never listed any of this to the powers that be. She was not a complainer and she probably should have shared what she was going through. When Jason was on the podcast he said he wished he knew what Shan was going through because he could have done something to stick up for her and fix this. The cast had no idea and some of them were very intolerant of what was going on. It’s a pity because that’s when her career became blemished. Aaron Spelling knew she was a great actress and that’s why he cast her as the lead a few years later in charmed. Even with that Blemish, Shan did have the best career and was the best actor in the bunch.
@@moviefan4life166 Thanks for sharing. I didn't know that. She never explained why and back then there was no internet or social media so nobody knew what was going on. She went off to study abroad then the Walsh divorced so everyone just figured it was salary dispute so they were written off the show. Problem was the show lost its heart without Dillon Brenda love triangle and the loveable gang together so didn't last long before it was cancelled. At least she got a second chance with charmed.
I love that Shannen is talking about the hard times in her life and her life now because the media made it seem like she was so hard to work with but that's not the case at all. She is so strong, talented, beautiful and just a kind and loving soul ❤
How’s is that not the case all of a sudden? Just because thats what she says doesn’t make it true ….right?
Well, both could be true. She was having a hard home life which made her difficult to work with.
Agreed. Shan is an amazing actress and was a child one no less. She had a very sick father and had to support her family from day 1. She had a lot of pressure on her, and was ultimately very successful from childhood. She said recently tge world she was thrown into was very alluring. We’ve all seen the photos of her partying with Tori Spelling, BRIAN Austin Greene and Mark Wahlberg. It was probably very hard for a teen to navigate and the tabloids always want to make you look bad. I don’t think I’d want to be that successful and famous at that age.
I cannot believe Shannen passed away today 💔😔this breaks my heart life is so short man Beverly Hills 90210 is forever my show man rest in peace to the 90s queen
You mean Shannon
@@Xanadudancer You mean Shannen!
@@Xanadudancer ShannEn.
Yeah I miss Sharon
Thanks for sharon.
I love that basically he still sees her as a sister off the show. I love the connection they have like that
I so Remember this as a child. I really felt for Shannen. Their was so many stories going around where she was Jealous of the other cast mates. Nasty to people on set. No one wanted to work with her because she did not get a long with others. Brenda was an important character to the show. When I think of that era, I think of Beverly Hills 90210. I would like to see Jamie Walters on her Podcast too. I feel for what happened to him back in the day also. People turned on him because of how he treated Donna on the show. But they were only playing characters & that's not who he was in real life.
I didn't watch the show, but she was also in the tabloids for her behavior and life outside of the show. Then similar types of stories popped up when she acted on a different show, again leaving the cast abruptly. I rarely trust tabloids, but I did see an interview with a landlord that was suing her or unpaid rent and because she damaged his rental property. He showed pictures of a filthy house that had dog excrement, stained carpet, filth and garbage left behind etc. It didn't help her reputation for being problematic. That story stuck out in my mind because I thought that someone with money could get an assistant to pay bills, dog walkers for pets, and maids to keep the house clean.
Ppl are literally so dumb when they hate on an actor cuz of the character they play.. its like hey.. thats just good acting. They are not really that person.
There was no social media back then so never heard of any of this. Wondered why they sent her character to France or something and then Luke disappeared somewhere and just thought it was terrible writing so lost interest in the show. Fans bailed and I think it was cancelled couple seasons later.
@jonfreeman9682 no it was not canceled they went on for 10 seasons. Stuff was happening behind the scenes.
@@lynnlynn9124 Shannen was always ''country like' and had an odd sense of style so even with money, you couldn't take the country out of the girl LOL
Brian has stood by her since Luke died and probably before . Luke was upset when she got fired he went to the producers supposedly and told them so too I can see that
The entire cast was sick of her crap, not that some of them weren’t also dishing out some diva.
Oh interesting ...ok so Luke Perry stuck up for Doherty . Hmm ok so I know who the girls were jealous of and why . Him standing up for her after she left the show says a lot
I'm not sure that s true - at the time he also wanted her fired I believe. They reconnected much later in life.@@nottellinnoone2074
@@EastSide-qc5oy Exactly but being late to set all the time costs time and money. They miss the daylight they need or sunrise/sunset they need. The others get left waiting for her. How long would any of us last if we were constantly late to work and causing trouble there? She didn't seem to get along with any of the other girls - at some point you have to think, it can't be everyone else, maybe it's me - and make an effort to change your attitude. Sad that she has passed and none of this matters now. For me, when Jason left the show was not the same. They also added characters that were rubbish like Sophie and Gina and Matt and Noah, Camille, Val totally made me want to run on to the next segment.
My favorite childhood show. I'm never the type to fan over celebs or anyone else. The most is just me appreciating their work and expressing to others. But if I ever was into a show, it was Beverly Hills 90210. I loved everyone like Brenda, Brandon, and Dillion were my favorite. And when Dillion cheated with her best friend Kelley that summer, I was done with that show. I was upset at both characters and more at kelley. I didn't get back to that show until they were in college. But I did go back watch some reruns and tried to watch the show with new people. Yeah, the writers were that good, I'm sure they didn't plan on loosing viewers but later I learned she wasn't professional and now we know why. Thank you for Sharing Shannon and may God cover you with His Grace, 🙏!
Do you know what fiction is lol
It wasn't a childhood show but i can get where you're coming from. I was i think 12 years old when i was hooked into it, especially season 2 so many good ones that season. Emily doing a major stalking job on Brandon, Scott's suicide, the track team on steroids ( that's one of my favorite " you better tell your friend Walsh to watch his back haha" noooooooo i did it man i told Brandon it's me guys i'm the one you wanna kill" don't blow this Kyle" those typical high school pompous jocks of the 90s' lol.
Brenda Walsh Shannen Doherty made that show so good and brandon and dylan
It’s funny how these celebrities feel so omnificent…until they’re not. Then they’re always: ‘misunderstood, coming from a bad place, going through a rough patch,’ but they never just say: ‘“I was a bitch to get along with or I felt entitled or spoiled.”’
Honestly I would have SO much more respect for her if she would just say "I was an entitled bitch and I am truly sorry. My behavior sucked then and I am still a bit of a narc now". Like just be honest dude.
Agreed. A little bit of rewriting history. Plus, at work I wouldn’t give a fuck if the person in the cube next to me was going thru a bad divorce if they were late all the time, acting like a complete bitch around the office, causing the team to miss deadlines. I would care as a person but as a colleague, your personal life is just that. Personal. She’s still not understanding that her personal issues are not something you bring to to the “office”. Her behavior was inexcusable, she would have gotten fired in an office environment too.
@@jenniferbond7073I agree, and now because she has cancer, people can’t call her out on her behaviour back then because they can’t be seen as the person who picks on a sick person. Narcissists like to rewrite history and play the victim.
She did say it years ago at one of those comic con shows. She said she messed up a lot of opportunities because of her attitude
I will say this, I grew up watching Bev Hills 90210 and my favorites were Dylan and Brenda. Tjough i continued watching the show after sge was fired, it was Never the same. I love watching Shannen on Little House on the Prairie.
90210 was everything...
It’s actually pretty sad how the media treated her .
I totally agree. If she was my sister I’d be disgusted with the mean way she was portrayed. I’m glad there’s peace and clarity about all of this now.
They showed her exactly for who she was. Now that she's sick everyone is supposed to take everything back from years ago.
Maxfrax333. Do you realize how you come across? You really shouldn’t go to every video related to Shannen and say the same toxic story. Look at comicon from this month and watch Jennie Garth saying the show went downhill after Shannen left and how she wishes Shannen stayed. This speaks volumes. Shan always had great relationships with all of the guys on the show and is best friends with Ian and Brian Austin Greene, and was close with Luke and discussing a show he personally wanted to do with her. Brian Austin Greene said he did the same things Shan did and was never let go. He didn’t even have to audition for the show.
Shan was a child star who had to financially support her family because he dad had very serious health problems. She had huge amounts of pressure on her since she was a kid. When Winona Ryder was asked about Shannen on Heathers she said she seemed very hard working and was always practicing her during the shoot. Everyone minus Alyssa liked and respected her on Charmed. Anyssa has owned that she was insecure and wished she didn’t view Shan as a competitor. Alyssa only came on charmed because another actress pulled out and she always felt like second choice and her ego wanted. To be the star and get first on the credits. She got what she wanted. All of the stars and staff on Charmed confirmed this. Shan was a very hard worker with high standards and was directing episodes. Alyssa meanwhile had a toxic mother who tried to sever the friendship between Holly and Shan. Holly and Shan are very tight and Alyssa is not friends with any of the cast nor will she appear with any of the cast at events because they all cannot stand her. Meanwhile the full cast of 90210 are all embracing and enjoying Shan. I’ve had interactions with her and can she she’s always been sweet and seems to have a very good sense of humor.
@@moviefan4life166 I also saw an interview with Deidre Hall who worked with Shannon on Our house and although she didn’t say much she stated that Shannon was “ misunderstood “. I don’t know what happened on Charmed as i wasn’t really into the show but judging by how Alissa has reacted over the last few years your comments don’t shock me.
@@moviefan4life166 I am coming across as truthful - exactly as the way she was reported as being during her days on "90210".
I don't think I am going on every Shannen video and posting the same comment (or same "toxic story" as you call it).
Based on your comment, you sound like her publicist.
Maybe you should go back and read some articles posted about her during "those days" and why Aaron Spelling fired her.
They should have worked things out with her - and had her take a few episodes off to deal with personal matters and then had her come back. The show was NEVER as good without her.
I agree totally! There had to be some type of non permanent dismissal, it’s not like she was an extra they could sadly still let go, she was 90210 ya know❤ maybe a few months to work out what she was going through and they could have said she was in Paris in the storyline where she once went
Listen to the 90210 Show podcast. They tried. She didn’t make it easy for them. And she complained about the show and said she was unhappy being on the show and everyone knew it.
Unfortunately, I do believe that all of the "stories" about her antics backstage at 90210 were true. She believed that she WAS 90210 and that the show wouldn't be able to go on without her. I was a kid when all of her drama played out in the media and it was one thing after the other with her: On set antics, bar fights, boyfriend, husband issues, etc. It's easy for her to apologize NOW. Yes, they wanted to get rid of her for awhile on that show and I believe that they pondered recasting Tiffani Thiessen as the new Brenda initially. Tiffani was immensely popular on "Saved By the Bell." I feel bad about her current predicament, but Shannon caused a lot of drama back in those days. It was in the media everyday back then and it did contribute to the popularity of "90210" back then.
To be fair Spelling gave her another show later so I suspect they worked things out. Also she said Luke Perry actually went to see her during her cancer treatment unexpectedly.
@@suzannec8400 He did give her another show but then she did her share to blow that one up too. A shame because she was great as Prue. With a little maturity she became a better actress by then, compared to 90210. (She was good as Brenda but she also had a tendency at times to be a little wooden and unconvincing.)
she is spilling the T before she leaves. as hard and weird that might sound. love u Shann
There is nothing at this point in time that would ever make me look at Shannen and think anything but love and gratitude for all of the hours fun and excitement that she and her co star's gave me over the years, lots of memories, same goes for Luke Perry, love both of you and always will...
Beautiful comment. If everyone thought like you we’d have one amazing world. Shan has been working since age 10 to support her family and has had an amazing relationship with her mom and dad. She had to be an adult at the expense of not really getting to be a kid. She like all of us has had some moments where looking back she’d love to do it differently but she’s a really great actress and she’s a lovely woman.
Sad what is happening with her and Christina Applegate. Wish the best for both of them.
They are both strong and making a good recovery. Both are legends of their time. Also Selma Blair another legendary cast member.
@@jonfreeman9682Selma was never on 90210
@@misstina1986 no she wasn't Hilary Swank was though
Shannen Doherty/ Brenda was my fav on 90210 hands down! This was my show in 90’s never missed an episode until she left
Honestly, most people know if you come to work late regularly you will be fired. Not to mention what would have been a very tense environment on the set the more fed up people were with it. I can't imagine she was fired with zero warning...if for no other reason than the impact to the show when a main character is abruptly axed. Lesser things have effected ratings.
*affected* ... not effected
I dunno.... Hollywood aren't exactly known for having HR departments or employment/disciplinary policies (other than a contract for the show they're working on), especially back in the 80s/90s. Also, actors are self employed, which would make them contractors (rather than full time employees) - which is also why they need an agent and their own accountant.
I'm a contractor, and although not the same industry, I'm guessing the less tolerant terms of contract (compared to permanent employees) applies to contractors in any industry. There are clauses in our contracts which states that the "end client" (employer) is entitled to abruptly end the contract whenever they want. It also usually states that if the contractor wants to leave they only need to give 1-2 weeks notice (rather than a month that full time employees are expected to give).
I've witnessed my contractor coworkers be asked to leave without warning due to continuous lateness and/or too many sick days. One day they're there, the next day, everyone's asking "where's Charlie?" Lol!
She knew. She just didn’t care.
Yeah, she was fired from Charmed aswell so clearly there's an issue with her.
she was fired to the point that she ended up in made-for-tv-softcore-porno movies.
That show was never the same after she left. She brought an "it factor" to the show.
She has accumulated a lot of hatred with her colleagues throughout her career...
Not really. She’s done 90210 new series with Jennie Garth quite a few years ago in the next gen version, and she did the 90210 reboot with the cast a few years ago. She’s got a nice relationship with everyone on 90210 these days. Bottom line they all regret her leaving and Jennie Garth said so at the April Comicon where the two sat next to each other and were very supportive of one another.
As for charmed, the cast all dislike Alyssa. That’s why she is the only one who won’t appear with them because she was toxic and still seems to be based on messages Holly mentioned she recently received. Hollywood sucks. Women are made to compete and not until these women are older do they seem to find real peace.
@@moviefan4life166 that's irrelevant. I am obviously talking at the time she was fired. It was all over the press. You can still read about it. How they made up today is irrelevant. But she was fired because she was difficult to work with and hated by most of her on screen and off screen entourage. That's just a fact, whether you like it or not, once again is irrelevant.
RIP Shannen! I enjoyed watching the show growing up in the 90's!
Beverly hills 90210 was the best teen show of the 90s. I was 13 when it first begun and was obsessed ❤ to shannen
It took a lot of guts and responsibility for her to take responsibility. Miss her.
It's just like that - people who have a direct and non-conformist personality are quickly seen as uncomfortable or capricious in those around them. This is actually very unfortunate. Because we humans are always told that we should be authentic. If it's us then it's not right either.
I just hope that Shannen, who was born in my class, has many more good years ahead of her - despite her serious illness ❤🍀💪🏻🙏🏻!!!
Shannen - there was always a little bit of you in the character Brenda and we celebrated you very much for that back then!!!
Give me a break. There’s a difference between being “direct and authentic” and just being an arrogant selfish a-hole. Are you one of those people who prides themselves on being “direct and authentic” but is viewed by many people as being an arrogant selfish a-hole? Guess what, you might actually just be an arrogant selfish a-hole.
Right but if someone (not only Shannen but anyone) has a blunt and direct personality it can and will make others uncomfortable. And it can hurt other people's feelings. So people have to know that if they choose to be like that there will be consequences to that. Maybe blunt non-conformists should hang out with other blunt non-conformists:). That might be easier.
@@denisealexis4025 Good point. I’ll take it a step further and add that in my experience some people, not all but some, who describe themselves as “honest and direct” are actually just jerks making excuses for themselves and their jerk behavior, and they want others to see their jerk behavior as a virtue. It’s not a virtue.
@@EastSide-qc5oy EXACTLY 💯. It's NOT a virtue to be a jerk. And the other thing that irks me is if you try to be as "direct" with these people they actually get offended lol. People are actually unbelievable! That's why I enjoy animals and children so much. 😂
We are the same age. Shannon first impressed me in a Father Murphy 2 parter. Wonderful acting. Then Litlle House, Our House and then 90210. She just has Star quality. Back then i hated hearing about the car crash her career was turning into and hoped it wud stop. Id love a 90210 reboot. Sending love Shannen. ❤️
I wasn't the biggest Shannen fan, but I was a fan of 90210 and Charmed. You rarely get the real story about celebrities, but I decided that the storyies about her attitude had to be true when she was fired from Charmed. It was clear she was a diva and did not learn her lesson after 90210. That being said, I do not wish cancer on anyone and it is a terrible shame what she has had to endure and what is coming. No one deserves her fate.
Shannon made life difficult during 90210 but it has become clear Alyssa Milano was the issue on Charmed and is largely why Shannon got fired. Holly Marie Combs has told the truth about that. Alyssa was the problem and told the producers either she goes or Shannon goes and if they fire her (Alyssa) she would sue them. She basically backed them into a corner.
@@flagler88 That’s not accurate. There were a lot of problems on the Charmed set. The producers helped create some of the toxicity there, both Shannen and Holly have confirmed that. Alyssa and Shannen got along at first but by the second-third season they didn’t. Alyssa may very well have been a diva in her own way but that doesn’t mean it was all on her. Shannen played her own part in how that played out. She was frequently butting heads with production and they eventually got tired of her. Whether or not the story is true that Alyssa issued an ultimatum to the show (“either she goes or I go”) it’s only Holly telling us that one producer told her that. There’s no way I’ll ever believe after the havoc Shannen stirred up on the 90210 set that just a few short years later on Charmed she was suddenly a different person and behaved like an angel.
@@EastSide-qc5oy I'm going by Holly Marie Combs. Tell her what was more accurate
@@flagler88 Did you listen to the entire podcast between Holly and Shannen? Because much of what I wrote above is supported by her comments. And she’s made other comments elsewhere in interviews that support what I’m saying. Did you know even Holly and Shannen had a falling out not too long ago and weren’t speaking and referred to each other in interviews as basically not friends anymore? They’ve since patched things up apparently but there were more issues between all these women than just one person. Oh and Holly even admitted that there was friction between her and Shannen on the Charmed set. Oh sure but it was all Alyssa being the problem on Charmed. B.S. And I say that not to defend Milano because like I said she may very well have had her diva moments but with all that’s come out about Shannen you’d have to be crazy to think it was all Alyssa’s fault on Charmed.
@@EastSide-qc5oy I think her firing was all Alyssa's fault, yes. You choose to believe certain things some producers say and not others and are judging Shannon on past behaviour and assuming after 6 years she couldn't change. They also talked about Alyssa's possessive nature and her being jealous of Shannon. Feel free to mostly blame Shannon for this but I don't. I believe Alyssa had her fired regardless of whatever else was going on.
Shannen Doherty says she cried “every single night” while filming Season Two of “Charmed.”
During the week episode of her podcast, “Let’s Be Clear With Shannen Doherty,”the 52-year-old spoke with former co-star Holly Marie Combs about behind-the-scenes tension on the early 2000s hit specifically the”lack of female support” with Alyssa Milano.
During the first season of Charmed, Combs underwent surgery to remove a uterine tumor, which brought filming to a temporary stop. Doherty explained on her podcast that she tried to visit her friend and fellow actor in the hospital post procedure, but said Milano got in the way.”I waited 24 hours after your surgery to go, and then it wasn’t even easy for me to get in. I was being told I couldn’t even get in by Alyssa and her mom,"Doherty said. "They were blocking people from seeing you but at the time, you didn't know.”
Following the situation at the hospital, Doherty and Combs, 50, experienced a strain in their relationship that led into the next season of the show. I remembered you texted me and were like, ‘Dude, are you going to come and see me? And I can feel your pain of feeling like I’d abandoned you,” Doherty said to Combs.”But I also felt like my anger at the situation of not being allowed to come see you, and how sort of family had swooped in and caused this sort of weird divide between the two of us that then continued throughout Season 2 where I cried every single night.TODAY” reached out to Milano about Doherty’s podcast remarks but did not receive a response. As the original “power of three” sisters on the show, Doherty played Prue, Combs portrayed Piper and Milano took on Phoebe, all of whom discovered that they were witches. After 3 seasons, Doherty left “Charmed"and was replaced by Rose McGowan’s character, Paige. Doherty previously attributed her departure to according to ET interview.”There was too much drama on the set and not enough passion for the work,”she said at the time. Milano addressed her co-star's departure in an interview with Entertainment Weekly, saying, I’m very laid-back and passive. I have my Buddha. I come in here and meditate
(Shannen has) got a lot of energy, she’s very headstrong, she wants to get the job done. But 20 years later, Milano told ET in a 2021 interview that the two of them were on better terms. Shannen said hinted during this week's episode of her podcast that she doesn't expect a reconciliation with Milano any time soon.”I heard that she addressed it the competitiveness in her book,"Doherty said, referring to Milano’s 2021 book "Sorry Not Sorry."”Obviously, I’m never reading her book because it’s (called) "Sorry, Not Sorry." So right there, you know, it tells me you’re not freaking sorry. When Doherty asked her about her take on the drama surrounding Season Two, Combs took a rather neutral position, but didn't shy away from admitting there was tension. Combs said Doherty, was fired despite from the show despite saying she quit after its third season. Combs also recalled a conversation she had with”Charmed" producer Jonathan Levin, who allegedly told her that Milano threatened to sue for hostile workplace environment if Doherty wasn't fired from the show. He said, you know,
We're basically in a position where it's one or the other. We were told [by Alyssal that it's Shannen or me, and Alyssa has threatened to sue us if we didn’t fire Shannen. Well, like my parents used to tell me “its not
everybody else its you!"So when Shannon, Holly and Rose have all come out and said Alyssa a B...l'm going to say that girl is probably a B. It appears the real Book of Shadows has finally been un-veiled.
Yeah it was also Alyssa’s fault that everyone got sick of Shannen on the set of 90210 and wanted her fired. And earlier than that, when 90210 was brand new and casting for Brenda and considering Shannen, casting director Joanna Ray received a call from a producer saying “whatever you do, do not hire that girl.” Yup that was all Alyssa too.
@@EastSide-qc5oy Alyssa was involved with 90210? Don't you mean Charmed?
@@lolayaiii5056 I was being sarcastic. It clearly had nothing to do with Alyssa Milano when Shannen had problems on the set of 90210. Shannen’s weird fans always blame everyone but Shannen.
@@EastSide-qc5oy Oh, okay. I understand now. Sorry about that.
@@EastSide-qc5oyWhy is it that Shannen has made peace with her 90210 co stars and are all friends now? Because clearly they were able to talk it out and Jennie actually made a real apology to Shannen for her part too, now on Charmed, all the regular cast members have an issue with Alyssa now, Shannen, Holly, Rose, Brian, Drew all don’t get on with her, this shows that on charmed Alyssa was the problem
Growing up, my brother and I were dubbed the Brandon and Brenda Walsh of our school and I loved it.
It's heartbreaking and stunning to me that Shannon and Luke are gone.... Shannon was only a year older than me...🙏😇🪽.....
All I can say is coming from someone who worked with the sound and lighting on this show is that she has come a long way.
so what was she like back then?
Much more temper mental and demanding.
I also like Valerie but I mean she wasnt Brenda Brenda and Brandon were the show
It's funny how companies "require" two weeks notices when resigning, but don't give you two weeks when letting you go.
mostly because they would rather pay you 2 weeks in lieu than have the person cause trouble or destroy documents or files or delete things that the company needs. They don't want you there once they terminate you and that is understandable. Most people would never do anything to retaliate but unfortunately some would so they safeguard themselves.
This is just proof that when a colleague or friend is pissing you off, you never now what is going on their personal lives. Some people are able to share and get that support, and some people struggle with that. I am happy she is able to tell her truth and get some support from her friends and former co-stars.
IF YOU LOOK AT HER DURING THE INTERVIEW, her face looks so fatigued for being sick for so long and she caked herself with makeup to try and cover it up. Plus, you can tell she is wearing a Whig. Lets be clear. Most celebrities going through what she did and was currently dealing with would drop out of the spotlight because they would want to be remembered for how they used to look. Shannen still wanted to be out there and that makes her so strong. She had things to express and say. She didn't care how sick she was. I find that so amazing.
I love how they all got back together with her years ago and have been supporting and spending time together with her!!!
I don't understand why she thought she deserved a stern talking to when she showed up late for work and also clashed with co-workers. Shannen developed a bad reputation and was fired from job after job, was arrested multiple times, was married or engaged ten times, and caused chaos on multiple sets. As talented as she was (and she clearly was), she surrounded herself with drama. No amount of lectures would have changed her bad on-set attitude, and we know this because she was fired from multiple shows: she never learned.
Shannen was AWFUL back in the day. Now she is trying to rewrite the past. She was fired from 90210 and Charmed for being difficult to work, drunk, and volatile. And she was always in the tabloids for getting into fist fights and getting DUIs. She got arrested more than once. Why is everyone trying so hard to paint a new picture of her? She was who she was. She may have grown up since then but DON'T LIE.
A lot of those people are in their 40s-60s and moved on, so I think she is courting millennials and Gen Z into believing another history.
Well it's always ASSUMED that if u are DIFFICULT, u are gonna be FIRED! I don't think anyone needs to be SAT down to be told. I am pretty sure from what I've recalled in past she was WARNED several times and she still pushed EVERYONE's BUTTONS!
Correct. I also remember that during the early 1990s she was charged for being involved in a publicized bar brawl. Also, a boyfriend of hers made a petition to the Superior Court of California for a domestic-violence restraining order against Shannen. Her personal life and legal problems obviously affected her work, hence she was fired.
@@sonjasanchez3233 At least you remember most of it, I was too young for all it. But I do remember most of her fellow cast members have had enough of her antics. She was Lindsay Lohan before there was a Lindsay Lohan. And just like Lindsay, she was beautiful, talented and unfortunately messed up!
She also got fired from Charmed. Hope she patches things up as well w/them too.
@@sopascat7She spoke about Charmed already. It was Alyssa who got her fired & Holly backed her up.
@@VMarieJx3 Oh and it was not her first time either lol.
So glad she is doing this I feel it is important to her giving her the closure she needs God Bless You ❤
She’s a warrior ❤love her
No she's a two faced
How?@@dave46459
@@dave46459 You're nobody to talk about this woman, you don't even reach her toes....
Warrior? Which branch of the armed services did she serve in? She's an actress.
@@costealucia5357 What did she even accomplish?
What's her excuse for getting fired off Charmed? She sounds like she's an abuser, they never change.
She blames Alyssa Milano. It’s always someone else’s fault.
@@EastSide-qc5oy Yep but I don't thing Alyssa is a nice person either. Lots of jealousy and cattiness between women on these shows - isn't the same with the guys
@@heather6668 In Alyssa’s case I think it was just a matter of Shannen meeting her match. As for the guys, they can get jealous and competitive with each other, they perhaps just express it differently.
@@EastSide-qc5oy Everyone has that when they maybe feel insecure or not as good as the others. They don't all behave like she did. Jennie doesn't sound like she was very nice either to be fair. It's an ensemble cast in these things and it's not and shouldn't be a competition. For me, I wasn't a fan of Dylan on the show, preferred Brandon, thought Steve was an imbecile and David was just there. The girls all came across as not that nice except Donna who was too sweet to be true. I did like the show but no business will keep someone on the payroll if they're causing trouble.
Personal life has nothing to do with professional life. Every person who has a job also has personal problems. You don't use those as an excuse to not do your job, or make your co-workers have to suffer or work harder or work in a bad environment because of your own personal problems.
when Shannon left.. 90210 just lost it's spark. it wasn't the same anymore. tiffany was a great addition - I loved her! but it became a different show without Brenda.
Shannon we ❤u 💜🙏✝️
So does anyone really believe that nobody had a conversation with her concerning her destructive behavior???
Yep. Tis fact. She just said at comicon this week when asked which episode was her favorite, she said definitely not the last one because I had no idea it was my last one. She did it to herself, but the show should have at least had a sit down.
Aaron Spelling knew he made a mistake and in time the whole cast knew. Shan was responsible but after 4 hit seasons, she was the lead and should have at least been told one more time and the done. There was mixed feelings about this because none of the guys wanted her off the show. Tori was friends with Shan and Jennie and Jennie was really not happy with things. Tori told her father he needs to do something and that’s what happened. In hindsight Jennie and Tori but wish she had stayed and have said so multiple times including Jennie saying it at comicon this month. She and Shan are on great terms now and it meant a lot to Shan. There was a lot of pressure on these stars truly.
The only reason I watched BH 90210 was because of Shannen Doherty.
I always knew there was much more going on behind the scenes with her than what was being told.
I love Shannen as an actress but also as a person who is very authentic and honest. She is also extremely talented, Beverly Hills and Charmed were not the same after she left and that is a testament to her acting skills and presence. Wish her only the best.
I'm surprised other cast members (Kelly and Donna) haven't supported her in her cancer battle. I've never heard them talk about Shannon or give her any public support which would have been nice
I’m pretty sure most of them have made statements on social media supporting her. Even Jennie who she somewhat famously did not get along with on set. Jennie actually wrote a pretty touching tribute to her, acknowledging the past troubles but framing them in a positive way (like I now look up to you and respect you even though we got in each other’s way back then, kind of thing). That said, based on things Jennie and Tori have said in interviews, it doesn’t sound like either of them are particularly close with her. They all have a bond as a group, but not necessarily a close friendship between all of them all the time.
@EastSide-qc5oy I understand. Thanks for explaining. I didn't know
Wasn't she also fired from Charmed ?
Yes & hope she patches things up w/Aylissa Molano
She was a notoriously difficult actress on every set. Not buying it!
I grew up with 90210. I used to watch it ferverously back in the first 3 seasons. Sad to hear what happened to Shannen Doherty and Luke Perry. They were a part of my teen years. RIP to both what a tragedy for them to die so young. Some of the best episodes of this series was in Seasons 1 &2. Great acting those first 3 seasons.
She has no one to blame but herself. She was late to work all the time, she was nasty to her coworkers, she was demanding and a burden. It was hardly the first job she's been fired from due to her personality.
Thanks for bringing to light the drama dv can cause, I've lost a job for the exact same thing just earlier this year. 4 minutes late from arguments and gaslighting.
The sad thing is that kids these days will never have the types of TV shows we grew up with that truly was about mixing entertainment and real life themes. They helped us cope and grow up. These days it’s all just cut up into 40 second tik tocs. So sad.
It does make you think what would have happened on the show, if she didn't get fired
It was Jennie that got her fired
@@BHSD90210 it was the entire staff and the female cast that got her fired. Not just Jennie
That show never got the same fame as it did with the original cast. I grew up watching this show and every spin off. I've even been to Beverly Hills and took the tour back in the 90's with my mom. I'm the same age as these people and there has always been controversy with the cast. If Shannen needs to talk about it and get in a better place, godspeed girl. #goat
Shannon has evolved and I definitely wish her the best. But it's no secret that she was difficult back in the day and there were numerous anecdotes of her not being a very kind person. I hope she can make her peace. 🙏🙏🏾🙏🏻
She was the best actress out of all of them. I loved her TV movies too.
The drama followed her on charmed
The fact of the matter is the show never recovered from losing her. It went on but it was never as good as it was when she was on it.
Let’s not forget, Shannon has been fired from many tv shows for being difficult. So she need not act all innocent.
She made my childhood happy watching her as Brenda
After she left I stopped watching the show. Imo it wasn't the same without her.Rip Shannen Doherty.❤😢
I have an honest question. How did her eyebrows change positions?
I am a huge Shannen fan , at the end of the day she was an adult on a hit show causing them time and money each day while waiting for her to show up.
At that time honestly if someone had sat her down - I don't think she would have listened - I think the behavior would have gotten worse!
90210 basically ended with her departure. Shame they couldn't find a way to keep her.
She needed someone to actually tell her she couldn’t do all the stuff she was doing or she was gonna get fired? Common sense should have told her that!
Unfortunately it needs renaming because SENSE is no longer Common
I don't know if Shannon knew how popular she was and notorious at the same time in the 90s! I remember I seeing her on the front of tabloid seeing her on TV in entertainment clips. To me she was the most famous cast member of 90210 at that time.
I love Shannon from 90210 to everything she has done. It’s so sad for what she is going through but I’ll keep her in my prayers and hope for miracles.
Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like Shannen may still be carrying a lot of resentment & animosity towards the past. Don’t get me wrong, I loved her as an actress, when she starred in both BH 90210 & Charmed; but she was fired from both for a reason. I pray that God rid her of this terrible disease soon. With that said, I hope she can take some responsibility for some of the things that went wrong with her past. I hope she can forgive; let go of the resentment & animosity. I hope she can find peace and finally move on from all of it.
Well when 90% of it is fake tabloid reporting and you take your career seriously and fans of both shows ask you what really happened for 30 years….i get why she wants to be real. She had to eve face and just say she moved on all this time. She’s always been direct and clear.
Stop watching Beverly Hills after she left... Never been the same without her
Oh look, another woman blaming someone else for her inability to be responsible...what else is new?
Be accountable
I get she has regrets and a sore spot for what happened due to her behavior and lifestyle back then, but I learned yrs ago to move on and keep the past the past, reaching out for closure doesn't do much good, as most ppl from 10-30 yrs ago wish you no harm but have more than likely 100% moved on and made new friends and memories and forgot about you except maybe a fleeting memory of a good time or times you shared. The only ppl that look back are ppl with regrets or are unfulfilled due to factors they chose, happy ppl don't have much time for yesterdays and what it's, they are too busy living life and enjoying family etc.
You are right, she is just trying to make peace with it because of her illness.....illness does not automatically make you a nice person all of a sudden..... I once had a co-worker with MS, he was the most horrible person on earth also before and during......
Shannon and Luke were the reason I watched. They were the show. Can’t believe they are both gone so young.
RIP Shannen Doherty 💔
No one needed to sit her down and do anything. She really needed to be an adult and own up to her mistakes. She screwed up on this show and Charmed and blames everyone else but herself. She was only in the industry because of her parents.
You obviously didn’t listen to the Podcast and just twisting what she said. She took responsibility for what she did! And was apologizing to Jason. And it takes a LOT of courage for her to admit it’s her fault even when the reason for her lateness was her abusive husband and her father being very sick. And that thing with Charmed - Alyssa was shady as hell. She played into the show’s toxic executives.
@@onacanilao i read she attacked the people who arrested her for dui so she had to be bodyslammed and hogtied
everybody who debut as kids do it because of their parents. If Michael Jackson debuted as adult he hadn't become so famous people won't belie if you say you haven't heard of him
They shouldn't have fired her. She was vital for the show. They should've given her some time off and bring her back when things calmed down.
I liked Valarie Malone. She slept with everyone's boyfriend 😊
I am waiting for Shannon and Alyssa to have a sit down. We need this to happen asap
I pray for her salvation, and that she will be able to let go of all unforgiveness & bitterness. I love her, she is a brilliant actress, my daughter has the same name.
Prayers for Shannon 🙏🏽
The show was never the same once Shannen left… Matter of fact I didn’t even finish the series…
Loved Shannen Doherty ❤
Shannon was very charismatic on TV.. everyone wanted to see her..she upped beverly hills and charmed..I guess people were jealous of her..
She was not only fired from 90210, but from the enchanted or whatever this series was called, right? So she didn't learned her lesson well.
What was the excuse for Charmed?
Well 3 of them used to get together after the show, and 1 was always excluded. The 1 wasn’t Shannen by the way.
30 years ago.
Lol...
So young