Beginner Equipment for Deep Sky Astrophotography | What's best?
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I still don't understand why you only have ~5,3k subscribers. You deserve wayyyyy more. Keep up the great work
Hear hear. It's amazing the files are shared, I'm not aware of anyone else doing this.
Now he has one more subscriber.
I think you are doing THE BEST astrophotography videos on UA-cam. From start to finish scripted and well planned. Nowhere else do you get this much information combiend with beautiful cinematics. Unbelievably how you learned and improved yourself in the last years.
One also has to match the equipment correctly. You don’t need a computer anymore except for processing. An AsiAir is dirt cheap for all the things it does (image sequencing, color wheel control, focus control, guiding, plate solving, polar aligning. remote control from smart tablet or phone etc) and it is EASY to use.
Because most people already have an asi air for 350€ and not a PC which they could already use
AstroAddict If they already have an AsiAir they already have their other gear and I fail to see any point in your video
Wow Tim!
Well made! Your video editing skills are growing fast ;) well made.
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Chris
Great videos. Thank you so much. Keep up the excellent work!
Great video Tim! You break everything down and make it easy for a beginner like me to understand...love your channel!
Nice informative video and beautifully edited!! Loved the images too!
Informative video Tim. Should be of help to those thinking of starting this amazing hobby.
Thank you very much! You provide excellent explanations that are very helpful for beginners (and not-so-beginners).
Well said Tim! Definitely this is a crazy hobby and equipments makes it more crazier!
Excellent video mate
Brilliant Vid Tim! You're really growing as a vlogger my friend! It really shows in you vids! Well Done sir!
Wes, Liverpool, England ( Bortle 8 )
Excellent advice Tim!👍
Thanks Tim, as always great videos! I wish I had followed your advice 12 month ago, it would had saved me some dollars along the way and could perhaps had achieved better results sooner. Now days I’m with a small refractor 72ED on the sky adventurer and it works great with guiding! Perhaps heavy on term of the capacity of the mount but it works great at this stage...Once I get more experience I will get a more serious mount like the HEQ5
Very clear synthesis, very accessible, in a (well, two...) word: great video. I don't comment very often on UA-cam, but you definitely deserve it !
Thank you!
thia video has helped me imensly . thoroughly enjoyable and explanatory, thank god for people like you to share your knowledge . starting out on an eq3 aand sw 72 ed . guide scope too . will this mount be sufficient to start the journey? thanks in advance Tim
OMG that intro was legit.
Great video. Lots of good information.
HI TIm! Great video. I have an spare a7r3 and I would like to get into astrophotography. Would the camera work without modification?
Hi I enjoyed your video's what guider system do you recommend with a celestron 8" slt schimdt cassegrain with avx mount and tripod thanks which will be used for deepsky photography in the future at the moment just planetary use.
An off axis guider
Well done, Good Sir.
Dude. Subscribed. You make killer videos.
Nice video, no loud music or stupid introductions, sound advice, Thank You
Glad it helped
Great work Tim, I've just invested in an EQ6R Pro mount and mounted a C5 to start my astrophotography journey. I'm interested in planetary and deep sky, can you suggest some basic imaging options?
Deep Sky and planetary are very different from another. Your scope is better for planetary, since the focal length is quite big. Planets need veery long focal lengths, deep sky does not. Most of the usual deep space targets will be too big for this telescope. But even the planets will be small, try to connect a 2x or 3x barlow and a camera that can shoot very fast exposures. If you want more information, check out the page from Cory Schmitz
Dear Tim, you have a great channel keep up the good work ! I have one question, if i'm using autoguiding do i have to perfectly polar align ? Is it enough just rough align ? Thanks !
The purpose of AutoGuiding is to correct errors like wrong polar alignment. But if your polar alignment is 'only' rough, the graph will be jumpy as hell. Make the best out of the two, use a precise polar alignment and AutoGuiding, and the result will be great!
@@AstroAddict Thank You So Much !
Super sweet!
Tim would a Canon 5d mk111 be good……..plus using a 71, or an 81 apo triple what image size could I expect with printed images. Yes I’m a total beginner, watching your vid was so easy made a lot of sense got to thank you for that 👍
Please how can i get photos like this with sony a640p, idk what attachments to get
Is it possible to use iPad pro instead laptop?? I saw one video saying something like that about asiair I think it's from astrobackyard I'm not sure
Well edited! Maybe someday mine will be half as good. Keep up the good work. Perhaps someday we can get you to NEAF.
Hey, great videos and content here ! Thanks for sharing ! Quick question, whats your opinion on the Bressier Messier AR 127s/635 Exos- 2 goto scope ... any good for astrophotography? :)
The scope looks great! I just hope that the mount can handle that thing and your equipment
I just know it will cause problems with it now being Apochromatic. .. so that's my negative thought
Great vid!
Great video Tim. I have the HEQ5 pro on my list but have to wait another year or so when I move back to Germany. I was wondering if you have an opinion on the Omegon Camera veTEC 16000 C Color camera?
Seems like the rebranding will never stop. I recommend getting a camera from a dedicated shop (such as ZWO or Altair Astro), Omegon does only slap their name on the products without any quality control
Thanks Tim, that what I figured. My plan is to buy the asi183mc pro here in the US and take it to Germany with me since it's cheaper here. Looking forward to being back in the Gelnhausen area again. Clear skies to you, and be safe.
What you have shown here is almost what I am planning to buy for my first "starter" set up with a small difference in that I am looking at 100 & 120s so that I can also use them for visual as well as imaging. Why did you chose the color version of the Altair camera in the guidescope when the mono version is probably more precise and is cheaper?
Cuz i did not even know that it was color back then. It's only the guide cam, it does not matter
Autoguiding is not really the only way to go. I guide manually and it works great. Exposures up to 9 minutes with a focal length of 600mm and get pin point sharp stars. The only disadvantage is that you have to be so concentrated that the mosquitos can eat you alive while you can't move!
Nice video, what about a sky guider pro as a start up or an ASI air to replace the laptop on field for a beginner on a budget to be abĺe to shoot long exposures without star trail.Any suggestions 😊. Thank you for the video. Man, you have some brilliant and beautiful images. I am jelly. If possible can we please have the settings beside your images for a future video. The settings really help us noobs. Would it also be possible to have like an in depth video, like a masterclass on how you captured paleadis from start to finish, with post processing? I would pay for a masterclass. Have you ever thought of doing a masterclasses for each nebula or astro image you take. Thank you
No paying over here, i wanted to do a start to finish video for some time, but never really got up to do it
I jumped head first into deep sky after doing tracked shots with a cheap single axis motorized mount. (Two axis but only the RA axis had a motor.) And un tracked tripod shots. Now I have the 10"f/3.9 Orion astrograph and the Orion HDX 110, which is a low end observatory class mount with 110 lb. Capacity. This is a drastic jump from beginner level to high intermediate level astrophotography, but I feel I'm ready after tons of research. Please give me your advice on power options. The mount only comes with a cigarette lighter male plug and im undecided which power pack to use. I noticed low end units and high end units for power but not much in between.
Also I live in the states and I'm looking for a domestic website with a calculator to figure out what CMOS or CCD camera is best for 1000mm f/3.9 . I will be starting with my Canon 800D though. Need info on the proper coma corrector also. Been looking at Baader mark 3 but its at least 300.00 US.
That's indeed a very big leap. With a mount that heavy, i doubt that you will take it out under dark skies on a regular basis, so why buy a power pack? I just bought a 12v 5a power supply with different adapters, and one of them was a fit, done. And i would guess that the website you are looking for is this: www.bintel.com.au/tools/astronomy-calculator/?v=322b26af01d5
Super Video! Kurzweilig und informativ. Hast du eine Liste der hier vorgestellten Geräte? Oder habe ich was übersehen? Ich überlege mir einen kleinen APO zuzulegen, da hilft das Video sehr. Besonderen Fokus habe ich auf Autoguiding. Habe eine HEQ5-Pro und 6d mit 135mm Samyang und will das jetzt eben um den APO erweitern. Da komme ich wohl langsam nicht mehr um ein Autoguiding rum. Bis jetzt lief es aber gut (Polemaster und die Nachführung der Montierung haben bei der Kamera mit dem Objektiv gute Dienste geleistet)
I went Maksutov Newtonian a ES 152 comet hunter no regrets! It was my first real scope just got carbon ES ed80 triplet too. No guiding yet need to look into that more I aready have a asi120mini just no guide scope yet just the ed80 joking and yet serious too just to try until I get a guide scope. I upgraded to Losmany style dove tail to handle the load a noticeable improvement over the oem vixen solution on eq6R powered by custom lifepo4. 6 years ago my mind was blown by looking through my rifle scope at Jupiter and seeing moons! 6 months ago using my cellphone Though Skywatcher130 on Andromeda blew my mind and I was hooked! Thanks to you and the other tubers for the education great vid's keep it up Clear Skies!
Also just picked up a C8 real cheap. Oh no I'm an addict too!
that is a really cool room
Just tuned in... does anybody know if the clestron mount motor is stable enough to do such pictures?
Good video btw.!
Every mount can track the stars, and every mount has it's limitations. Which one do you mean?
Hi Tim. I really enjoy following you on your astrophotography journey. Would you have any tips on gear maintenance? In particular, those rare occasions when a person needs or feels the need to clean the front lens of the telescope. Some of the things I see on the internet as the 'proper way to clean' look quite scary. I know that it is something that should not be done frequently and in most cases a few little specs etc on the lens will not be noticeable. Thanks. Keep up the great work.
I never made 'proper' cleaning attempts. I just use a mircofiber cloth, the same one i use for my glasses. If you do that long enough, the lens will be clean agian. If you want to use air pressure beforehand, be careful with compressed air cans. Most of these have an active component, which can seep into the frame of the lens holder. I usually do that with a simple squeeze air pump. And don't use those cheap cleaning kits from the internet. Some of these brushes are greasy - out of the box...
You really have a nice Delivery Tim...No BS just straight talk...Tim...I really like your Home...Perhaps you live in Norway...Based on the Design of your home...Or Sweden or Switzerland...Thanks again for getting us Newbies up and running in Astrophotography..
Nope, not in the countries you mentioned ;)
Hi. I'm really interested in astrophotography but I live very near the equator (3° North). I never got a chance to see polaris to polar align and I think I can't polar align porperly, just rough polar align. Can anyone help me with this? Will rough polar align works to take a shot of galaxies and nebulas? I don't want to buy the go-to if I can't polar align
CORZONEX I would contact Celestron and ask about their StarSense camera and polar alignment. It uses plate solving. Some people also use SharpCap software and a digital camera to do the same thing. Also, drift aligning may work also (Phd2). I think you only need very rough polar alignment to make these above methods work.
CORZONEX I’m living 11°N also and I can never see POLARIS to align from my location. So I drift alignment using PHD2. Initially it can be intimidating but it get really easy as you do it often. Sharpcap and any other plate solving doesn’t really help as north from my location is not really visible till 25° from the horizon. I do a rough polar alignment using the PS Align Pro App for IOS. And Drift alignment using PhD2. I’ll try and find a video to explain this to you in a better manner.
ua-cam.com/video/L_Yn8BZ0Hm0/v-deo.html
And please check the range of your desired mount. Some mounts are limited to.. say 10° - 70° latitude.
Greetings
Chris
Very good video Tim! I wish I could level up with your editing-scills ;)
Greetings!
Chris@catchingphotons
Good job! I would tell people to go a little bigger the the mount to carry more weight
Smashing the like button!
What would you recommend on a budget of 1000$ for a mount and a scope ? I thought about an SW eq 5 goto and a SW 150/750 PDS.
Try this scope in combination with the mount:
www.astroshop.de/teleskope/skywatcher-apochromatischer-refraktor-ap-80-600-evostar-ed-ota/p,15056#tab_bar_1_select
i'm sure you will have more fun with a refractor
@@AstroAddict Thanks for the recommendation! Is a field flattener crucial for beginning astrophotography or rather optional for better images?
Optional, no doubt. If there is a Galaxy in the middle of the frame, you will not consider slightly warped stars in the edges
Can you recommend a star tracker instead of a goto eq? (My wallet can’t afford a eq goto).
Skywatcher Star Adventurer or iOptron SkyGuider Pro
I use the Skywatcher Star Adventurer Pro pack with my Nikon D7500 + Nikon 75-300mm f3.5-f5.6 VR ED lens which is a neat set up. No guiding, no laptop, no wires etc & I track for about 2 mins per image, then stack in software.
Second hand Goto EQ
Thank you for your attention to the beginners, your videos are perfect!
I'm a photographer and, since last year, I'm shooting the milkway using a wide angle (24mm f 1.4).
Because I have also some knowledge of astronomy I'd like to learn to make photos of galaxies and nebulas. Can you please tell me what is the focal length, diameter and speed that I need? I also need to transport it to go (by car) on the mountains, because I want to avoid the city light. Thank you for your help.
You can use everything from 135 to 1000mm, depends on the target
@@AstroAddict Thank you so much for your answer. So, if I want to take a good photo of andromeda or the horse head nebula (for ex.) 1000mm if enough? I have a full frame camera. Can you please tell me what is the difference from using a 1000mm telescope or a 1000mm photo lens? I appreciate your help
@Aluxxz Thank you, I appreciate your kind answer!
Thank God i was drifted to your channel
Don't thank god, thank the UA-cam algorithm
Does a tracker mount have to be level??
It will help you with polar alignment
Hi
I'm by professional Wildlife photographer and now planning to shift my focus to Astrophotography. I'm looking for some options that should be light weight, high quality imaging and pocket friendly. Here is India most of the Sellers are offering the solution but at an exhorbitant price. Can you suggest some options ?
The smallest telescope that would make sense is the WO RedCat. Or, for 200$ less, their ZenithStar
@@AstroAddict WilliamOptics are priced very in comparison to similar ones. What Diameter you suggest for Planets and Deepsky photography ? The only concern is that the Tube should not be too heavy and aperture needs to be fast.
You can use everything for deep sky. Small Doublet/Triplet refractors from 300 to 450mm are affordable and easy to use. You can forget about planetary. Those scopes are gigantic
The mount is definitely the key to good AP I wasted money buying a cheap mount and although it is possible to get decent results on brighter DSO (M31, M42 etc) I would say HEQ5/AVX level is the minimum for consistent results.
@Aluxxz Skywatcher HEQ5
For beginners, one can start with Binocular and smart phone... quite affordable and will give good learning experience. After this replace Binocular with telescope... move to Refractor telescope aperture 50, 70, 90, or 100. Replace smartphone with DSLR.
JFYI: the google drive link for Pleades doesn't work.
Gonna check!
It should work now, thanks for the heads up!
sadly, still failing :-(
Thanks for great YT content Tim, learning lots with each one you release.
@@ianmoore2332 Do you mean the download link?
@@AstroAddict yes Tim, the Google link gives me a 404 error...tried on Chrome, FF and (new) Edge ....
How do you power everything up when you are out in the field without 240v outlet ?
Try a power tank
@@ryanbroom2642 And that can power up a laptop as well ?
@@nilaya80 I have a Powertech 42Ah battery. Just plugged my laptop into it and it was charging so seems ok to me. You can also charge the battery with solar panels if needed.
All of the components support 12v DC source. Computer, mount, Dev shields.. For example i have Canon 500d Dslr, an i bought USB dummy battery. Then i could use simple power bank. A 12000 mAh power bank is enough more than one night at -10 C ambient temperature.
@@ati3x But my laptop requires 19v DC. Thanks
Okay, so how about an outtake reel? 🤔
I got 130eq what what is the best...love from India Kolkata
He's up to 11.5 K subscribers now.
Lohnt es sich noch jetzt den Heq-5 pro zu kaufen?
Warum sollte es nicht?
AstroAddict naja ist es nicht schon älter? Bzw. anders formuliert, ist es immer noch (im Vergleich mit neueren Mounts der selben Preis/Gewichtsklasse) eine gute Wahl?
Kennst du da denn welche?
@@AstroAddict naja ich sehe immer mal wieder etwas von iOptron, kenne mich aber in dieser Hinsicht nicht so aus. Deswegen überlege ich momentan, ob ich das HEQ-5 pro kaufen sollte und wollte gerne mal deine Meinung dazu hören. Aber von deiner Antwort leite ich ab, dass das HEQ-5 immer noch top ist.
Natürlich muss man schauen ob die Montierung den eigenen Anforderungen standhält, aber nur weil sie alt ist heißt das nicht das sie schlechter geworden ist. Schon damals war die Nachführung sehr gut für einfache astronomische Anwendungen wie meine. Das alter ändert nichts.
Your google drive link doesn't work.
Thanks for the reminder, it should work now
I am from a middle class family from india. I only have a budget of 1200euro for all components for astrophotography. What can i do?
You should go for second hand parts, like a used Canon DSLR from ebay. Those come in at about 200-300$, sometimes even modified. Same applies to a budget tracking mount, like a used iOptron sky tracker. You can also put in a few minor accessoires like a clip filter, focusing mask and as lens maybe a used rokinon 135 f2. 1200€ will not be enough for a PC controlled deep sky setup, but if you have some dark skies, the setup I described can also get you far!
Nice video Tim, well edited and explained! I have a question though, I want to get into the hobby and I know my first big purchase is the mount. I’m considering the Celestron AVX, but most I see on UA-cam seem to go Skywatcher’s HEQ5. I’m trying to understand why when on paper they seem very similar, is the something that I’m missing that makes spending the $200 more on the HEQ5? Most places in the States have the AVX at $899 (it’s currently on sale for $799) vs the HEQ5 at $1,150.
Both have the same price in my region
@@AstroAddict Makes sense then, so all things being equal, would you still pick the HEQ5 over the AVX, or is it just which ever is the cheapest at the time of purchase?
It depends on how dedicated you want your setup. Both will work with average telescopes, but I think that the avx will eventually become too small If you want to upgrade
HAHAHA keep up with the positive humour!!
Hätte dieses Video ein halbes Jahr früher gebrauchen können :D aber hab wohl nicht so schlecht gewählt, bin jetzt allerdings nur „Team Newton“ :D
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A GoTo and an auto guider are defintively NOT needed to get started in deep sky astrophotography. A good star atlas will both let you know how to align your mount (a point slightly beside the polsr star) and find your objects.
I said multiple times that this video is not for starters
@@AstroAddict Please check the title: "Beginner Equipment ...". And the first thing to be replaced by experience is the GoTo.
Beginner - deep sky, and not Astrophotography in general
I disagree, I think beginner deep sky setup is a cheap used canon DSLR and super cheap but super high quality older takumar lens on like a used skywatcher pro.
Fair enough!
Everything is too expensive, to hard, to complicated and too heavy. After three months of wrestling with a German equatorial mount, figuring out how to use the telescope, camera and software, I got my first photo of Jupiter and four moons, last night. I should have taken up knitting.
Nice diffraction spikes from refractor ;P
cheater :P
It could've been a custom diffraction mask :D