Alternate WW2 [Allied Victory] 1939-1946
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Some information and clarifications. (English)
The video took more than a year to make and has 2670 images.
Operation Sea Lion: With his focus on defeating the Allies, Hitler could have defeated the RAF in the Battle of England and thus attempted Operation Sea Lion. With the support of coastal batteries on the French coast and air superiority, the Germans could have managed to cross the English Channel.
Turkey enters the axis: Turkey was pressured to enter the axis with the imminent threat of invasion of the axis.
How the Soviet Union did not collapse: By postponing the German invasion, the Soviet Union would have more time to industrialize and recover from Stalin's purges. The Axis allies in the Middle East were unable to help much in the invasion due to the difficult control of Saudi Arabia (among other occupied territories).
Nuclear bombs and Germany's surrender: With the European front quite prolonged, at the end of 1946, the Allies decided to use nuclear weapons to quickly end the war, as they did in Japan. However, conditions were not equal, 4 bombs had to be used and Germany suffered two blows before surrendering.
In any case, none of this is actually realistic and could have been thought of differently, feel free to comment your opinion.
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Algumas informações e esclarecimentos. (Português)
O vídeo demorou mais de um ano a ser feito e conta com 2670 imagens.
Operação Leão Marinho: Com o foco em derrotar os Aliados, Hitler poderia ter vencido a RAF na batalha da inglaterra e com isso ter tentado a operação Leão Marinho. Com o apoio das baterias costeiras na costa francesa e com a superioridade aéria, os alemães poderiam ter conseguido passar o canal da mancha.
Turquia entra no eixo: A turquia foi pressionada para entrar no eixo com a ameaça eminente de invasão do eixo.
Como a União Soviética não colapsou: Com o adiar da invasão alemã, a União Soviética teria mais tempo para se industrializar e recuperar das purgas de Stalin. Os aliados do Eixo, do médio oriente, não conseguiram ajudar muito na invasão devido ao difícil controlo da arábia saudita (entre outros territórios ocupados).
Bombas nucleares e rendição da alemanha: Com a frente europeia bastante prolongadas, no final de 1946, os Aliados decidem-se em usar armamento nuclear para acabar rapidamente com a guerra, como fizeram no Japão. Como, no entanto as condições não eram iguais, foi preciso usar 4 bombas e a Alemanha passou por dois golpes antes de se render.
Seja como for, nada disto é de facto realista e poderia ter sido pensado de outra forma, fique à vontade para comentar a sua opinião.
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0:00 Intro
0:29 1939
0:55 1940
2:06 1941
3:19 1942
4:33 1943
5:46 1944
7:01 1945
8:14 1946
9:24 End of the War - Cold War
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Some information and clarifications. (English)
The video took more than a year to make and has 2670 images.
Operation Sea Lion: With his focus on defeating the Allies, Hitler could have defeated the RAF in the Battle of England and thus attempted Operation Sea Lion. With the support of coastal batteries on the French coast and air superiority, the Germans could have managed to cross the English Channel.
Turkey enters the axis: Turkey was pressured to enter the axis with the imminent threat of invasion of the axis.
How the Soviet Union did not collapse: By postponing the German invasion, the Soviet Union would have more time to industrialize and recover from Stalin's purges. The Axis allies in the Middle East were unable to help much in the invasion due to the difficult control of Saudi Arabia (among other occupied territories).
Nuclear bombs and Germany's surrender: With the European front quite prolonged, at the end of 1946, the Allies decided to use nuclear weapons to quickly end the war, as they did in Japan. However, conditions were not equal, 4 bombs had to be used and Germany suffered two blows before surrendering.
In any case, none of this is actually realistic and could have been thought of differently, feel free to comment your opinion.
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Algumas informações e esclarecimentos. (Português)
O vídeo demorou mais de um ano a ser feito e conta com 2670 imagens.
Operação Leão Marinho: Com o foco em derrotar os Aliados, Hitler poderia ter vencido a RAF na batalha da inglaterra e com isso ter tentado a operação Leão Marinho. Com o apoio das baterias costeiras na costa francesa e com a superioridade aéria, os alemães poderiam ter conseguido passar o canal da mancha.
Turquia entra no eixo: A turquia foi pressionada para entrar no eixo com a ameaça eminente de invasão do eixo.
Como a União Soviética não colapsou: Com o adiar da invasão alemã, a União Soviética teria mais tempo para se industrializar e recuperar das purgas de Stalin. Os aliados do Eixo, do médio oriente, não conseguiram ajudar muito na invasão devido ao difícil controlo da arábia saudita (entre outros territórios ocupados).
Bombas nucleares e rendição da alemanha: Com a frente europeia bastante prolongadas, no final de 1946, os Aliados decidem-se em usar armamento nuclear para acabar rapidamente com a guerra, como fizeram no Japão. Como, no entanto as condições não eram iguais, foi preciso usar 4 bombas e a Alemanha passou por dois golpes antes de se render.
Seja como for, nada disto é de facto realista e poderia ter sido pensado de outra forma, fique à vontade para comentar a sua opinião.
a year to make?
with a lot of breaks, but yea... hundreds of hours
dude you need more subs and views for something that took more than a year to make! Jesus christ
What about Germany?
I see that the allies decide to split it into different countries.
I can clearly see that Bavaria, Baden and Wuterburgh gain independence, but does that mean the rest of Germany in the north remains unified into some sort of revived North German Confederation?
Love how Croatia is the last axis member standing 9:23
Мне кажется что после высадки союзников в Франции и Италии СССР бы смог начать полномасштабное наступление
This was absolutely incredible! Nice work on this video, and thank you for putting in so much hard work!
If I may ask you a few questions about the video:
- what would be the casualties for the Western Allies, the Axis, and the Comintern respectively?
- Were countries like Britain, Free France, and Greece still equal Allied Powers even though their homes were occupied?
- What were the two changes in Germany after the bombs were dropped?
Thanks for the appreciation.
1- When it comes to casualties, I can’t say for sure. But they would probably be higher due to the prolongation of the war. (although many lives were spared due to nuclear bombs and the German surrender).
2- The United Kingdom, Free France and Greece would remain allies. Why would they stop being so?
3- Honestly, I don't have the situation in Germany very clear, but the logic would be: after the first two atomic bombs, a coup led by the military would remove Hitler from power and want to stay in the War; After the 3th and 4th bombs, another military coup would take place with the aim of surrendering Germany to the Western Allies, taking into account the imminent German defeat and the cause of the bombs.
@@RLGMapperIt's true, but Turkey was neutral, it's not very realistic, Turkey was weak at that time, İsmet İnönü had initiated the neutrality law, but the video was good.
The question is, how could this affect the war in Asia? Could we also make a continuation of this video on this topic? @@RLGMapper
Bro this is quite literally the perfect scenario for a german victory how did they managed to lose💀
I mean…. Yeah, they managed to conquer mainland Britain, and also managed to get control of Middle East which I assume had a lot of oil at that time.
Well the colonies continued to fight which kept them busy, also the Soviet Union still has more man power and america aids them with their lend lease
@@randomuser9883 The colonies didn't had a proper navy or industry, they definitely wouldn't be able to keep the Italians busy, let alone the entire Axis. Moreover, without the British navy, the germans would've been able to import all the oil they needed from around the world, so the biggest problem the Nazis had would've been solved just like that.
The Soviets would have a lot more advantages in this timeline than just "manpower" not sure why you would point that out as if that's enough to stop the Axis powers, but at the end of the day, the Soviets could have possibly defended themselfes, but at a more hefty cost because they would be fighting a lot more germans thanks to no British presence in the region.
Most of the Lend-lease was for the UK and later on for the allies, without the UK, the US may not have interneved in the conflict(or at least not directly helping the Soviets).
No oill
@@titanicbigship 3 things
1)No bri'ish navy (no need for big a*ss german navy, less oil comsumption)
2)Middle east oil (more oil for all axis)
3) Venezuenlan oil(no bri'ish navy imposing naval blockade? buy everything you want :D)
I love how Croatia didn't surrender at the end.
Greetings from Croatia 🇭🇷❤️
the Nukes were unexpected on Germany, and on its capital
The UK would never keep fighting after losing the mainland and without having soviet and American support
They could very well survive in Canada, Africa and the rest of their colonies
The British Empire would, they don't give up
Not only they would escape to the cananda and parts of empire will be still there, but also this is the reason why is it called alternative
It is alternative which explains them not surrendering but the only reason Britain fought on because they thought they would never be actually invaded from the mainland and if the Germans did get landing even if it wasn’t as successful the brits would surrender as Winston Churchills government was only able to stand as long as he proved that the home isles could never be invaded. The most likely scenario is the British surrendering and them ending in the same position at the start of the war but with a major political instability eventually a partial collapse of the British empire.
@@andrewlancefield3730depends, you can’t know but they couldn’t use their colonies as the new capital because they could basically declare independence (probably)
Bro this is so underatted! Only 500 subs, get this man (or woman) to atleast 50K!
Why when its not only historically inaccurate, but also lacks basic common sense
@@kalekkakmdkekjaakwkmdb8506 yeah, surrrrrreee
@@CountryBallsArtYT i mean, you arent stupid enough to think it is historically accurate… are you?
@@kalekkakmdkekjaakwkmdb8506it literally says in the title, that it's an alternative scenario, which means that it didn't happen, it's just a mind game
@@top-flex2225 yeah but it makes no sense given the events that happened in the alternate scenario
Wow that was very good
Bro this video of what happened if Germany lose ww2 is amazing
0:32 like how you included that small offensive from france
Sorry for the reupload.
Allies Victory Asia Version
When will you start to do?
Sea lion wouldn’t have gone that smoothly if Hitler had a thousand tries. Even if german soldiers did land on the beach, the superior British navy and raf would cut supply lines from across the channel and eventually the Germans would be forced out
At first I thought it was just WW2 and you clickbaited me
operation sealion would never be that effortless
Of course it would have been. The UK's advantage was its fleet and air force, but compared to the Wehrmacht, its ground forces just didn't stand a chance.
@@ayko8465 ... how do you expect an invasion of Britain to be successful with naval and aerial inferiority?
The audio is the best part!! 💋🎧
What is the audio at 6:30 called? (Not the total war speech)
In our time line by 1940 Britian was in the same position as in the video. Why would it fall so quickly?
This is alternative
If Germany focused it's attack on Iran and Caucasus, it would've captured a lot of oilfields (+they already had Irak). They probably would have won then
Okay now, Ive read the pinned commend, watched the video and:
1-Im ready to present at least a dozen arguments of why Operation Sealion wouldnt have happened, and if it would-it would end in a total disaster for the Germans right after landing or shortly after it which only strenghtens the following points.
2-Germany wouldnt have been able to cross North Africa, not without Malta in their hands, royal navy(speaking of-where is it) wouldnt have dissapeared, and still would hold supremacy over the space from Gibraltar to Suez against the Italians, leading to the starvation of any group larger than a division in North africa.
3-If anything, Britain would throw all of their dominions to defend the african theather, from Aussies to Indians, leading to their forces being equal if not larger than OTL
4-Italians in east africa would still collapse, maybe later but still, they lacked supplies and were under rather lackluster command, Germans even with Suez wouldnt have been able to supply them properly, the royal navy still being present in the Red Sea, leading to the collapse of their group. Also yes, if they began any offensive like in the video-they would have been destroyed completely
5-Crossing the Suez is difficult but possible, however Turkey was never close to cooperating with the Axis and wouldnt have buckled anyways, pro-German turkey in ww2 is a myth.
6-If England has fallen, Stalin would have tripled the preparation intensity since the 2nd front to hold Hitler back is no more and his next goal is USSR and there would be no pretext for the Germans to concentrate troops on the border without the Soviets noticing it, but even if. Why do you think that this would lead to the same level of German successes in early war, and an even less counteroffensives after the winter? The Germans were very close to being completely destroyed in the Moscow counteroffensive near Rzhev, Mozhaisk and other places, almost surrounded and saved only by the lack of strategy and weaponry in the Red Army, something that wouldnt be prevalent here?
7-Offensives on the caucasus wouldnt have led to anything for quite a variety of reasons from Geography to infrastructure, the only possible way of reaching Baku with meaningful force is through Checnya-Dagestan where the landscape is normal
8-Germany already began to have manpower shortages in 42, how didnt they began to collapse?
9-Why didnt the Soviets started any major counteroffensives like Stalingrad or Bagration? With the additional year of war preparatons this would have been possible
10-I doubt Soviets would just let allies occupy all of Europe and not take at least something of a buffer in Moldova, Hungary and Slovakia, after bearing the brunt of the war.
I agree with most of your points. The video isn't exactly realistic, but it doesn't need to be either. It's an unrealistic scenario, anyway. Thank you for your time and explanations.
Throw in the fact that the monies for the V programs would not be needed etc, nor keeping the large numbers of German troops in France, and the extra year given here. Jet technology alone for the Germans would of created a complete change in the Air Power in 1944-46.
Does this mean Japan still surrenders the same way as in our timeline? With 2 atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and with the Soviet Union invading Japanese held Manchuria?
Personally, with the Axis being vastly more powerful in this universe, i really don't see how they'd stall in Barbarossa but i loved the animation!
in this universe stalin actually expected and prepared for a german attack rather than asking to join the axis
It happened a year late which means they had an extra year to train new military leadership
So the British mainland falls but all of their colonies continue to fight? I mean I imagine many of them would surrender or declare independence as opposed to trying to continue the war. In any case great video.
I imagine that most of the colonies would stil remain at british control, atleast time enought for UK win the war.
@@RLGMapper what about india
I just assume that India would remanin loyal to England, at least for the time of the war.
The only way I see it play out that way is if King George and the Royal Family, Winston Churchill, and other prominent politicians in the British government managed to flee for Canada or the US and continue the fight as a government in exile, just like the French and the other exiled governments.
@@RLGMapperprobably not, there was even a resistance
What is the music call pls
the musics are in the description
Очевидно, если операция Морской лев была бы успешной, то союзники бы капитулировали. Не было бы войны до конца. Черчилль не дурак, поэтому уверен, он бы подписал капитуляцию - место того, чтобы воевать до последней территорий. И плюс Советский Союз проиграл бы. Ведь Рейх атаковал всей своей армий, а не держал бы на Западе, как в реальной жизни. Если делать выводы, то если бы союзники капитулировали, это значило бы победой Рейха во Второй мировой.
I didn't expected these nukes in the Germany, very good job. Btw this scenario could seriously happened, but borders Poland after war looks kinda weird. Still god job, but how Poland became only country under usrr control?
Thanks for appreciating. In fact the scenario is not that realistic... hm hm... sea lion...
In relation to Poland, it would be the only country that the USSR could effectively reach and establish a pro-Soviet government in Europe. Therefore, taking into account that the USSR could not get even close to the heart of Germany, the Western allies would not have given so much territory to Poland.
I think after the fall of Britain Spain would also join the axis
OK! This is a comment for RLG Mapper. I like your idea about that version of ww2 and can be a possible end like that, if Spain did not join to Axis forces, in 1941. Anyway, I like you explain to me why Spain stayed neutral in the war? Because, for the Axis forces that is crucial on the Western part of the Mediterranean sea. My second question is when initiative changed on the Middle East, why the Allies does not take first Iraqi and Kuwait oil fields from the Germans before invasion of the North Africa? Because, that is very important too! Thanks for one interesting video and continue your work.
Thanks for appreciating.
1- Spain did not enter the war because that would be too risky, as long as a German victory was not assured, especially after the USA entered the war. Spain would probably only enter the war if the USSR had collapsed and saw that German victory was assured. And if Spain entered the war, it would conquer Gibraltar, annex Morocco and invade Portugal with the help of Germany (they even had a plan for that).
2- Regarding the oil fields, I confess that I didn't even think about an invasion of Kuwait and Iraq earlier, I agree that that could have happened.
@@RLGMapperThank you about your answers. And your answers are very logic and smart. But, about oil fields, imagine, Germany and Italy were together secured the oil fields on the Middle East, before winter 1941/1942. Than, it is not necessary to attack the USSR before 1943 or 1945? Why i ask you that? Because, in the years 1943 and 1944, Germany and Italy could progress through Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan, and in India link with Japanese forces from Burma. In that case, the Axis powers would be territorially link from the Europa, across the North Africa and the Middle East to the Far East and the Pacific to the Japanese Islands. What you think about that? Could it be done before 1st of July, 1944. But, without a war against USSR and USA. And the British Empire is cut on half. Even maybe destroyed?! Without German Nukes on London and England? So, The Great Britain is an enemy of all 3 super powers of the Axis forces. London is neutralized maybe even for ever. USA is under isolationism and got no interest of the rest of the world. And, USSR continuing a good relations with not just Germany, than all Axis powers block. If you ask me, that is an ideal scenario for "The Man in the High Castle". More realistic than in real TV Serial. Be saluted my friend and tell me your opinion about this case of scenario. And, could you do some video similar like that? Thanks!
That would definitely be a very interesting scenario, although it involves a lot of "ifs".
Not only would we have to assume a German focus completely in the Middle East, we would have to assume that Japan didn't attack PearHarbor, that the US didn't enter the war (I think this is the most unrealistic point), and that the Axis defeated the UK quickly enough so that the USSR would not be tempted to declare war on the Axis and join the allies.
But if everything went this way, an Axis victory would actually be possible, that's true. (it would even be one of the most realistic victories that can be gived to the Axis, as they didn't had much chance of winning, in most scenarios)
@@RLGMapper Well, we can first analyze situation with USSR. From 26th of August, 1939, the Third Reich and the USSR got an agreement about split Poland and non attacking each other. So, if Germany did not attack on the 22nd of June, 1941, maybe the USSR would not get enter in the war before 1943. We do not know that, but i got a opinion that Stalin would never attacking Germany and Axis forces first. Second, if Japan never attack Hawaii and USA, Germany would never declare a war to Washington. The same is with Italy. In the USA in that time was a strong isolationism about war in Europa and Asia. If you ask me, the Axis powers just must be enough smart to not involve two giants in the ww2. And yes, that is the only way how Axis powers can win the war on very realistic way. I think, you understand that idea well and you can show the people how that could be. When you become 100% sure about that theory, you do some new alternative history ww2 video. That is my suggestion to you! In good Will, of course! Be saluted, my friend and always continue your good work! Because, you are very good about that and I can just little bit help you.
I'm not sure the US would remain neutral. But I will consider the idea. In any case, if I make a video like this, it will be a long time from now (not only because of the immense amount of time it takes to make these types of videos, but also because of other things I have planned to do). Thanks.
Unless Hitler was killed in the atomic blast on Berlin. He would have never surrendered. In fact near the end of the war he became so furious he sent out an order to destroy all german infastructure to punish the people for failing him. He would of seen atomic blasts near the end of the war as doing just his bidding and fight to the bitter end.
4 nukes and the intervention of 4 global power to get a victory
Imagine what the UK thought when Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union like they must’ve been thinking oh another all that I have is going to be in Germany’s hands😂
Мне одному интересно как американские самолеты с ядерными боеголовками долетели до городов германии под огромным обстрелом ПВО и под обстрелом неметских истребителей
See, after the stalling of the front line in the east, both the USSR and germany entered a war of attrition, where germany had no chances if winning.
so i guess germany won the battle of Britain and carried out sea lion, nice
Most like after the fall of London and Buckingham Palace the UK would sue for peace and the war would end, then Germany would turn its attention to the USSR. The US more than likely wouldn't be able to fight Germany directly without being able to naval invade using the British isles, that is if they would even get involved without any allies in Europe besides for the crumpling Soviets. I also still believe that even without fighting the USSR before beating the allies, the Sea lion would never have worked without serious naval production on Germany's part, the Royal navy is just far too strong, and the isles are too difficult to invade without dominance in the English Channel. My guess would be that fighting in Africa would continue in Libya and egypt for much longer, but both sides would reach a stalemate and a ceasefire would be signed in Germany's favor.
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The british isles padt is not really realistic
Eu achei muito brm feito, mais um pouco irrealista, ja que uma operação tocha seria impossível e tbm com a operação leão marinho provavelmente a guerra acabaria ai.
Nao faz muito sentido a guerra te prolongado depois disso
a operação tocha foi adiada, mas acho que seria possível na mesma, o Reino Unido e os EUA continuariam com o controlo total do oceano. Em relação à guerra acabar com a operação leão marinho, é uma possibilidade bastante plausível, mas achei que a guerra não terminando nesse momento, ficaria mais interessante.
@@RLGMapper Where does all the staging for torch operation happen.
What about Japan and China?
Doubt bavaria would be free after WWII tho
I confess that I didn't know what to do with Germany at the end of the war, but dividing it (since most/almost all of Germany would be under the control of the Western Allies) seemed like the most correct option.
The problem was how to do it (even though there were already some proposals).
So, the division I made consists of a kind of New Confederation of North Germany (North Germany); Bavaria; Hessen; Saxony; and Baden-Württemberg.
I agree that it is not the most realistic option for a division of Germany, but it still doesn't seem so far from reality.
What does Japan do?
Japan does the same. The major diferences in the scenario are really the operation Sea Lion and the Axis conquests in Arabia. That extends the War so the Allies also throw nukes on Germany. But hat may mean that the communists dont win the Chinese Civil War, also.
There are a few things that just wouldn't happened:
1. There is no way germany could land in Britain
2. Axis would most likely manage to make the soviets colapse and the attack from turkey would be more sucksessfull
3. Allies wouldn't drop a nuke in berlin (too many casulties)
Do you think the allies cared about casualties? Churchill himself advocated for gas bombing german cities with the main intent of completely wiping the city out of its civilian population. He hated the germans. The same could not be said about the leader of Germany towards the brits
1:57 how are the allies gonna win in this situation bruh
the soviets would be much more preparated and arabian lands would be contly to mantein. (see the pined comenten, also)
Time.
@@RLGMapperhow would the soviets be prepared??? In 1940??????
@@whitezombie10 the Soviets knew that Germans will invade them next after finishing mainland UK, so of course they would be prepared
@@whitezombie10 The Soviets will grow more prepared, and it looks like Operation Barbarossa occurred a year after it did in our timeline. With that extra year of the Soviet preparation, they would probably do better.
I think germany has a atomic bomb in 1946
Doubtful. Atomic science was seen as "Jewish science" and was largely ignored. And all the good German scientists had left Germany due to persecution.
Its very unlikely, they could probably only have it after 1950.
Because it does not include Spain, since for germany to conquer marocco AND algeria on North Africa it The was necessary to invade spain
Spain was fascist so it would just be necessary to make them join axis
And Afganistán?
Dawg the UK was literally stronger than the USSR. Without the british empire soviet union would’ve STARVED to death and lose important intelligance + The Royal Navy dominated the Seven Seas so German troops would quickly be destroyed by the Royal Navy. More than likely, Ussr wouldve fell (austrian painter was terrified of invading Britian bc of their powerful navy even if they achieved air superiority that wouldn’t change anything + the weather in the english channel.) If anything, had the greece invasion been postponed moscow wouldve fell and stalin wouldve been captured.
Most smart UK citizen:
Soviet union didn't needed English to feed themselves
“Starve”?
You have no knowledge of geograpy and agriculture.
СССР мог бы проиграть, если бы Германия захватила Британию. Но из-за того, что Немцам приходилось держать множество закаленных в боях и хорошо экипированных дивизий на Западном вале, опасаясь высадки Британцев, когда же сама высадка, произошла после решающей битвы - Сталинградской. Которая поставила крест на Германской победе, промышленности, и солдатах. То есть, Британия была важна во второй мировой, только для того, что бы она существовала: оттягивая часть войск Германии из-за страха высадки.
why is america entering the european war?
Japan still atacks Pearl Harbor, and following the US declaration of war, Hitler still declares war on the US, given a clear reason for american intervention on the european front.
@RLGMapper it's just that without Britain to provide a safe landing and assembly point for American troops and planes ect how is America able to enter the European war?
In your scenario nazis have full control over Europe so where is Americas staging ground for the war? Somewhere in Africa?
Thats the point. North Africa. Operation Torch are still being sucessful, while delayed (for better preparation). Then, the american and remaining western forces can use algeria as a starting ground, as you said, to eventually invade Italy and ocupied France. Thats my thinking process here.
@RLGMapper without an ally in Europe and access to the Mediterranean cut off, its not likely America would enter the European war, seeing it as a lost cause, Especially that by this point in your video the war in Europe is over.
With France and England defeated, where in Africa could America choose for their staging ground?
North Africa is under nazi control aswel as a large portion of West Africa
@RLGMapper but with France and England defeated and the war in Europe over, North Africa and the entire Mediterranean would be cut off for the Americans.
I'm not tryna be annoying,
I love alt history, I just like it to be believable and America wouldn't have a place to land thier troops for a staging ground , North West and East Africa o
Under nazi control, South Africa would be friendly with nazis...
America would realistically cut their loses I think
Why would UK fall so fast?
idk, dont think much about it XD
Hi brother
It nearly did in real life
Show Japan 1942
its wrong map, cause after stalingrad fall Germans wanted to start opperation "gertrude" in turkey
LMAO
just check @@kalekkakmdkekjaakwkmdb8506
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Czemu polska jako jedyny kraj jest kontrolowany przez ZSRR
The British were the greatest hero’s in ww2, they had no interest of giving up even being all by themselves during a couple times, they stood against the Nazis the whole war and was the leader to the resistance against the Nazis
I wouldn't say they were necessarily alone I mean they had their colonies.
It is true though that the British were the only ones that were able to fight the Nazis really around the globe when nobody else could.
Not only did they fight the Germans but they also fought the Japanese at the same time, but even before the United States joined the war they were sending a ton of supplies as well.
It certainly looks beautiful, but oh... unbelievable) Germany would not have won.
Propaganda parrot
И турция со стороны кавказа не наступала. Короче тут куча ошибок.
"Альтернативная история" для кого написано?
(AXE Victory)
4 nukes, lol
Демократия и освобождение это четыре ядерные бомбардировки. И да, в такой ситупции никакой лэнд лиз бы не помог СССР выстоить. Падение Британии и вступление в Войну Турции это конец. И никакое увелпчиние добычи нефти в Казахстане не помогло бы.
Хочу сказать что проблемы в видео начинаются ещё с падения Британия, вероятность чего меньше десятой процента, отчего все остальное видео рушится на куски.
spain, portugal, sweden and switzerland
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Англия не проиграла
"Альтернативная история" для кого написано?
lol I don't believe USA is a superpower allied:))))
Тут ошибка. Война с ссср началась в 1941.
"Альтернативная история" для кого написано?
If Baku was taken, how could Russia fight without oil?
The logic would be for the USSR to increase oil extraction in other regions (such as Kazakhstan, eventually).
They would also receive much more from the US through Lende-Lease. They would also destroy the region's oil infrastructure when they saw the region's imminent defeat to the Germans.
@@RLGMapper Yes, I get both the increase in Kazakhstan and U.S. imports, but, both would take a long, long time to happen (especially the Kazakhstan part), and destroying the oil infrastructure would not increase their supply of oil. So where would they get enough to carry on the war?
That, I don't know anymore. We can just assume that the US exports A LOT of oil to them. XD
Also, I think it is possible to fight without oil. Germany still had some minor offensive capacity even in 1945 with minimal oil. They couldn’t win offensives at the time, mind you, but they also lacked manpower and equipment due to everything else going on.
The Soviets, without approximately 80% of their oil, could still have fielded plenty of artillery and infantry, blunting and bruising German offensives, and the remaining 20% of oil could be used to support the air force and small scale tank offensives. Of course, the Soviets would manufacture fewer tanks, opting to spend available resources more on field artillery production, would be my guess.
So, while not able to undertake powerful offensive operations like Bagration and Uranus, the Soviets could still exhaust the Wehrmacht and slowly claw back territory by simply battering German lines with intense artillery barrages.
Which is kind of what it looks like they did in this video.
However, it’s kind of hard to believe in an allied victory in this scenario anyways. How does the U.S. properly bring its industrial might to bear against Germany without the giant aircraft carrier that it Britain? I mean, I guess Operation Torch would have secured enough airbases for the invasion of Italy and then later Southern France, but I don’t see how the Germans would permit Allied forces to land in Southern France. It’s a much shorter coastline to guard, with terrain mostly unfavorable to landing forces. No way the Americans get down there on the ground. No, the Anericans would have to proceed first with Ireland and Scotland to secure some airbases, then force their way into England, after which hitting Northern France as they did in reality.
The moat unbelievable thing in this video is the successful Sea Lion, and then the British and French keeping up the fight in exile without any substantial military industry available, just a bit in Canada and India, and that’s basically it.
No way.
為什麼核彈不是炸柏林啊？
Немцы напали на советский союз в 1941, видео ужасное
"Альтернативная история" для кого написано?
Ты ещё скажи, что Турция в ось не вступала, и Третий Рейх Англию не захватил