Can You Spray Japanning?
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2021
- I finally discovered a decent method for spraying on japanning. For more information on japanning, check out my original video here: • Best Japanning Recipe
Spray Japanning Recipe:
60% Turpentine
25% Asphaltum/Gilsonite
15% Boiled Linseed Oil
Mix together (not in the spray bottle) and set aside for at least 24 hours. Check if consistency is spraying to your liking, and add more turpentine if too thick or more asphaltum if too thin. Wait at least 24 hours after the addition of any further ingredients before use. The recipe is only in percentages and not by weight or volume because different quality turpentine and asphaltum will produce slightly different results, so use the percentages as a general guideline.
Once ready to paint, do not stir or shake the japanning as undissolved particles will be at the bottom of the container. Pour ~75% of the container of japanning into either a spray bottle designed for thick liquids or a re-fillable spray can that you pressurize with an air compressor. I am sure using a HVLP spray system would work here as well, but I wanted to make this as accessible as possible.
Spray on one thin coat and let sit for a few hours before baking so that any runs or dips have stopped. Place painted item in cold oven and set it to 200F for 1hr then let cool. Bake it again at 300F for 1 hr and let cool in the oven. Then bake at 350F and finally 400F for 45 min each, cooling in between steps. If japanning is still not hard after 400F, you can bake at 425F for 1 hr. If you are using a toaster oven, you may have to bake for longer as the toaster oven is not as well insulated as a home oven.
Once fully hard, you can smooth out the first coat with sandpaper and apply further coats. You can also apply further coats before you bake past 300F, if you think your first coat is smooth enough. Spray japanning will require more coats than if brushed on. If the end result comes out with a lot of large ripples and not smooth, then you either put a coat on too thick or you baked the japanning at too high a temperature, too quickly. Either sand down and apply a thinner coat with the same baking instructions or increase baking temperature intervals to 50F segments.
Keep the unused japanning in a container with a tight lid. If the japanning starts to get too thick or hardens, you can always add more turpentine to bring it back to life.
I hope to put this out there so more people try the recipe and experiment with it so that we can all get as close as possible to a working recipe.
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Almost two years ago... Thats some long project.
You have probably single-handedly saved the process of japanning. I have followed your trials and errors the entire way. You should be commended for saving a pretty much lost art.
Thank you! There are many others working on rescuing what little info we have left about japanning as well. Check out aPlaneLife.
@@HandToolRescue I certainly will. Thanks.
@@HandToolRescue Greg is the best! Super open to questions as well!
Here we have a hand model sensually describing the process of spray japanning....
Agreed. I'm trying to japan an entire table, but unsure how it will work but we shall see!
This has *nothing* to do with my small town Asian-Canadien run tanning salon. UNSUBSCRIBE.
Oh, you.
LOL.
When you get recommended a video and it was educational and you get a good laugh.
Happy ending
Asian-Canadian = Canasian!
At least it's got a Power Fister in it
This has nothing to do with the Asian ran massage parlour I frequent!
They said sprayable japanning was the fever dream of a mad man and beyond the grasp of mortals but one man had a dream, a dream of a less explosive workbench and clean up that takes minutes not hours.
Years ago I was trying to remove the "black paint" off an antique fan and found nothing would strip it off (including MEK) besides sanding/grinding, through researching why that was was I discovered japanning. No youtube videos existed at that time so it was awesome when you posted your videos and seeing that we used the same japanning recipe. Good stuff man, that spray method is an awesome idea. Thank you!
Try goof off. I just tried it on japaning for the first time not too long ago, and it worked like a charm.
The only problem is it likes to evaporate quickly, but it works pretty much instantly (at least on Stanley's japanning).
If someone was able to get a tub, with a lid, and fill it up with it so you could soak it, it would probably be ideal. I just don't have the money to try doing it like that.
6:35 It's called Kapton tape. It's a silicon adhesive on a polyimide film, usually used in electronics to mask solder joints or for isolation of wires in parts that get hot like transformers.
also, used in motor winding/repair
and on every small LiPo battery
Handy stuff. For oddball/narrow access solder joints on old equipment I have a soldering gun with a tip wrapped in kapton tape, only the tip exposed. Buys you just enough time to get in and get out of a switch stack without burning every wire in there!
I liked this before I even watched it. Your previous video on japanning is one of my all time favorites. Have had asphaltum on my shopping list for a while, for some old tools which definitely need a good rejapanning. Now time to hit play and see what you came up with this time 🙂
I'm in the process of restoring a 1920's Victor Luminaire parlor fan, and I've been digging through every scrap of information on japanning I could find. Lots of information on how to do these old planes and tools, but not so much on the decorative finishes that adorn these old cast parts with all the intricacies and swirls. The spray bottle idea has given me hope I might replicate the original finish on this fan. Thank you so much for keeping this finishing technique alive in the modern era.
Very beautiful finish. I plan to use Japanning on some tools I'm restoring and the spray will now be the method I use. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge.
Let me know how you like it!
@@HandToolRescue I have an antique wrench and screwdriver like the ones you reproduce. I also have an Irwin bit and brace auger and drill bit set that came in an awesome oak case. It had a hinged lid and a center drawer that hinged out instead of sliding out straight. I have a few more items to play with as well.
@@HandToolRescue very intersting technique, for what I see, the formula and result is very similar to a spraycan very popular among graffiti writers, trains, specialy, it fixes easily and fast over metal, it is Panzer over thick dusty surfaces...you know graffiti, no time for primer..abandoned buildings constructions...hehe, the difference that I see is, that japaning dryes very well, this spray I talk about is commonly name bitum..easy peachy..;)...my question is that very precisely, what about japanning for drying in the long run, the bitum spray never realy gets dry, the effect of bitum spray on common use objects is very nice, but in summer....but for things that are going to be for hard use, it still a great means for protection
and it comes already packed into the spray..
that´s why is popular ;), I thought you may like to know, if you don´t by now for years hehe, may you find the info useful for your stuffs.
@@bobwilson7684 the reason japanning gets dry is you bake it, i suspect the bitumen spray contains very similar contents and if baked would probably work too
@@Mister_Brown thanks for the tip, I realy recomend it to everyone, in fact I have never used the bitum spray for painting, that is why I am surprised about this video, I use for protecting metal parts, what makes it japanning..I guess, it cannbe that people finds not so eays all the preparation and having a space to do all that and baking, in that case, and if you live at a cold region, often you may need it "right here right now", if you are into constant hard use, in those cases having a bitum spray at hand is a bliss, in the cold it stay "almost" as hard as baked, and you can leave for a better ocasion to cure, and the stetic result is wow!, you have propper balanced preasure, and the valve well, just works perfect. I mean, is professionaly made specifficaly for hard huse on metal, train paintors at night on the run 10 mins for finishng, one minute longer and...;) you will have to call mama from the police station hahaha.
Realy bitum spray makes sense, get to know it and combine it. It will stick to anything immediately and will stay. The baking is what I didn´t know. ))
I use a mouth sprayer for this (or mouth atomizer). Its usual purpose is to spray lacquer over finite work, in order to preserve it. With a pot at the end, i can spray about half a liter worth of it in one go. I don't bother using my lungs for it, tho, i just hook it up to my mini air compressor, gives a much more clean result.
Best part about this device, there's no need to alter the solution in any form. Depending on the ratio between the two pipes (oversize, or equal) you can spray even stuff like honey in consistency (with, some difficulty). Easier to clean too.
promising. The "easy to clean" is the thing when japaning. Can you advise about air inlet diameter vs paint inlet diameter, air pressure ? I cant buy it where I live so need to build one. Models seems to have a little funnel at the air tube exit. Can you confirm ? txs
I restore the black antique and vintage Singer sewing machines, and I was excited when I saw the first video trying out the recipes. Now, I'm ECSTATIC! Refinishing these machines (which came japanned from the factory, with gold and colored decals) has been by using glossy black paint until now, but this is fabulous! Thank you so much for making this happen! I'lll be trying it as soon as the weather gets warmer as I usually do that kind of work outside.
I’ve been doing japanning using you previous recipe and it worked great so I just wanted to say thank you! And another great video as always :)
This is so exciting!! I don't know why. I don't have the tools or expertise to ever properly japan something myself. But it's super exciting to see lost arts and techniques be rediscovered. You're doing amazing work at bringing japanning back
I restored a No 4 hand plane and I did use your previous japanning ratios and it came out beautiful. Thanks for sharing your researches.
Always able to find the latest in cutting edge 21st century technology on this channel. Appreciate your ceaseless R&D, advancing the Art of …Japaning?
It's people like you that are changing the world a little at a time and making it better for everyone else!
Clearly a much needed advance in finishing technology! Congrats and thank you very much for all your efforts!
I saw the first video you did on Japanning. I shared it with a friend that restores planes and he said he was going to try it. He was very impressed. Another awesome video.
This is revolutionary. I'm not sure that I have the patience to do such work but it's good to know that it can be done in a less messy and more controlled way. Thank you for putting in the effort needed to figure this out.
You absolute madman, you actually did it! Not show here are the 1M hours of trial and error testing. Congrats for sticking with it and finding a solution that works. Really impressive. Thanks for sharing!
Any day I get notified of a new video from your channel is a great day. Thanks for the awesome content!
Dude, over “unfinished” cast parts spraying has gotta be the Cockford Ollie of appreciation. Thank you as always,
-CY
Wow! This is an awesome technique. This looks WAY easier, and CLEANER, than just brushing the japaning on. The quality of the finish is outstanding!
Welcome back. I’ve missed your videos. Excellent work. Thank you.
It's amazing to see craft enthusiasts not just picking an old technique from the ashes, but researching to improve their essential usability, and succeding in that!
Great job, fellow craftsman, I'm proud to see such an excellent tech adaptation and might even resort to this method one day!
Amazing! This is my first exposure to the process and I'm really impressed. Thanks for putting this out there to share!
Your delivery of information is truly art in and of itself.
this is such an amazing technique! The world is so much better for your work here.
Greetings
Here in Argentina we use a product that fulfills the same purpose, it is applied pure or diluted with any solvent derived from petroleum, it dries in the ambient air and its adhesion power is incredible, the finish is slightly shiny.
It can be applied on any material (metal, wood, glass, plastic, etc.) Its name is: Asphalt Enamel.
Qué marca?
you really made my day , I have followed a few videos about your recipe for jappaning a while ago, then hit kind of a standstill on my project , and was now trying to pick it up again i would like to restore a 1877 compass plane type 1 , but I refuse to spray paint it . thank you very much for your time , patience and dedication to this experiment.
Really interesting to see this update on Japaning - really nice outcome - looks great 👍
Glad you liked it!
YES i was waiting for you to make this video! now i have to show everyone
Nice series! All great UA-camrs! Looking forward to the end result :)
Love your videos. I always learn from them and enjoy your humor. 👍👍👍
I'm definitely gonna use this formula on some of my restorings, thanks for your dedication man, its really useful!
I'm excited to watch the full journey.
I admire the fact that you spend so much time doing trial and errors to get the recipe right. I like the spray on option. Awesome 👏👍👩🔧
I've been a subscriber for about a year now, but your Japaning research has been one of my favorites!
This would be great for a vehicle frame that I'm going to restore. I guess the only issue would be having an oven large enough to cure it?
Extremely generous to share this information. Thank you.
I do love the look of japanning. Spray application is a great idea.
Good to see you back. I'm looking at playing with japanning too. 🔧
Thanks for the upload and spending your time to teach us something, i had heard about it but never really seen it done i may have to do this myself on some future projects
Great work. Those pieces turned out beautiful.
YES!!! I've been so looking forward to your Spray Japanning since hearing about it on the podcast.
Quick question; do you see potential benefits japanning car components (such as hub carriers etc.) vs simple paint and bake?
I knew you would nail it down and figure it out!
Great results!
Thanx for sharing!
Your Thanxgiving was a month ago, but ours is today!
Happy Thanxgiving! :D
Had a double take when I heard you say another UA-camr was going to give it a new soul...what mystical art is this?
Can't upvote this one enough. This is great research.
Outstanding, cant wait to see the final plane 👍
Amazing! The discussion on this topic is a cross between the Holy Grail and Lost Trade. Really enjoyed your video!👴🏻🇦🇺
Discussing spray japanning really brings out your Canadian accent. 10/10
What a good explanation of Japaning :)
Yay your back. cant wait fore more!
Wow that sprays on beautifully
Something you might consider trying is instead of turpentine (C10H16) as a solvent, give a pentane (C5H12) a shot. That stuff boils at like 35C, so will dry much faster than the turpentine. I would think a coat could dry in just a few minutes.
Keep up the good work, and good on you for coming up with a way of spraying that.
Maybe, but try buying that at the hardware store lol
Just put it in the lathe and carefully remove the extra carbon and hydrogen
Sure looks beautiful. I have only restored a few vintage tools and used black real enamel that was also baked.. and came out quite hard and smooth.. but wow, real Japanning
does it right.
Excellent info - thank you for testing this!
I started watching your channel and after the latest upload i now realize your future is as a hand model.
Excellent work and thank you for the research!
Thank you for your bit in this project on behalf of veterans everywhere.
The coolest thing about all the video channels that you mention, is that over the years I follow all of them. So neat. (a small verification) I guess I can pick good channels to follow.
Yes!!! He has done it! Great Scott!
Is there any recipe for Saskatchewaning? I'm an Albertan who just moved to BC. Not sure why I shared that. When I finally get time after I'm dead to refinish a bunch of old tools I've been collecting, I'll be hitting up your japaning brew. Some of the best videos out there man. Love it and thank you.
Love the look of Japaning, l have several old plains spoke shave and old hand tools that this would work on.
I don't think I've ever seen japanning in real life but, this makes me want to try this on some modern hand tools that like to rust. Thanks for giving up some secrets!
parts came out beautifully
Another fantastic production! Happy Thanksgiving
Amazing work, dude! Nicely done!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks for the detailed explanation 🤠
Excellent video, thanks for the walkthrough.
*chef's kiss- this is just glorious!
Thank you very much for teaching me about jappaning. I will give this a try. 😀👍🇨🇦
Maybe the old rattle can trick of letting it heat up in a warm water bath will help with atomization so it goes on even smoother.
Your result is beautiful still! Really cool!
Like I've said before Eric, your a "mad" scientist who solves everything with a huge sense of humor 💪😎🥸🤓🏆🏅
Great tutorial on Japanning.
Great information. Well done. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing this valuable information!
Super.. merci pour ton aide cela faisait longtemps que je chercher la bonne recette .
Merci beaucoup
Thanks, I have always wondered how they did this on the old tools that worked so well.
Awesome, definitely have to add this to my list of things to do.
Good information. Great demonstration. Thanks.
Great information I really am looking forward to trying it out.
Great result!
Thank you for providing this content
Brilliant as always.
You're straight innovating new techniques, a master at work. I'm be glad if this works because I've always hated Japanning - I find it inconsistent and waxy-looking. Unfortunately though, it's sometimes preferable to recreate that old-fashioned finish. Edit: It's so beautiful! I want to cry. So quick and easy, with a better result! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and using it to improve your craft!
A little bit of trivia, the original Model Ts actually had a Japaning finish. At the time oil base car paint faded quickly due to poor resistance to UV light, so Henry Ford developed fast drying asphaltic paint, hence all Model T Ford's where only available in black. So concerned was Ford about the quality of the Model T paint that the person applying the coating was sometimes required stripped naked to reduce the introduction of contaminates and if you repainted a Model T it would void the warranty. The asphaltic coating was sprayed on and baked at 400 deg.
the hand-talk on this is next level
Very interesting and informative video 👍 I feel like I want to try this on something now.
Another exquisite video! 👊🏽
Very enjoyable as always!
Can't wait to see Uri and GB work on this!
New video? Wow, something to celebrate today!
This……. He…….. he speaks!!!!!
I genuinely never thought I’d hear speaking on this channel
If you're going to be doing a lot of this I would suggest getting something like a 3m accuspray gun. The entire spray mechanism is disposable essentially. You wouldn't have to thin it nearly as much and it would be more consistent. Also if you use the PPS liners, the lids have a 200 micron filter.
not heard of this process before, TY. new sub
That looks amazing!
Dear Sir, thank you for the video and experimentation to save us all some time or effort should we wish to ever venture towards this endeavor.
Hope you had a great thanksgiving and Happy Holidays or what not shall we not see you again until after.
Great video. I see you are working on your career as a hand-model.
Lye / sodium hydroxide will remove japanning, it has to be a very high concentrate and kept very warm almost hot. (Actually 100% lye that is molten/608 degrees will dissolve glass/enamel)
I have used lye to remove japanning from old/antique cast iron waffle iron bases.
After watch this video I might try to my hand at reapplying japanning to the waffle iron bases.
Great video will be watching your other videos about japanning.
Uri is great, this will be a great collaboration!