Destiny and Null talk about Kiwifarms Drama

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  • @patricksloan5304
    @patricksloan5304 Рік тому +613

    Tom needs to up his farm setup game. One source water Block hydrates 4 blocks in every direction, this allows a 9x9 area to be wet for one watersource, and allows a more efficient use of grow space

    • @Alisu-
      @Alisu- Рік тому +35

      While not so efficient, plants do grow faster when near water sources, but i guess he could have made rows of 2's instead of 1's and gotten better results

    • @TheBoss0110101001
      @TheBoss0110101001 Рік тому +24

      @@Alisu- in addition, the inclusion of bees will increase crop growth

    • @GangsterFrankensteinComputer
      @GangsterFrankensteinComputer Рік тому +13

      You can also cover the water with slabs so you don't have to swim.

    • @mondaytuesday1202
      @mondaytuesday1202 Рік тому +6

      @@GangsterFrankensteinComputer lilypads too

    • @Nehimsupacac
      @Nehimsupacac Рік тому +9

      Tom barely knows how the game works. That's what you're going to critique on his gameplay? Nothing about the unenchanted stone tools 3000 hours into the game?

  • @MarvinPowell1
    @MarvinPowell1 Рік тому +142

    I'm 36 and remember 2001 internet with Geocities pages, and despite how "wild" the internet was back then, it was way more civil and respectful than it has been 2016-present. It's like, when you let people do whatever they want without restrictions, people will tend to moderate themselves, as opposed to having assholes moderate things "for them" that only cause division and disagreement. The internet was wild prior to 2009, but it was also much more polite and nicer, too.

    • @CcReap3r
      @CcReap3r Рік тому

      Anything before the I Phone had 90% less dumbasses

    • @autumnmatthew3185
      @autumnmatthew3185 Рік тому +4

      So true, you put it into words perfectly.

    • @GVirusInfectee
      @GVirusInfectee Рік тому +20

      Yeah it's the classic part of human psychology where being told you're not allowed to do something makes you want to do it, and realizing something is allowed makes it unappealing.

    • @ZapparoniWorks
      @ZapparoniWorks Рік тому +10

      It's all been homogenized to a single definition of "polite," defined by your corporate overlords.

    • @Alex_the_Dad
      @Alex_the_Dad 6 місяців тому +3

      I was only 5 in 2001 but that was definitely my debut, my sisters dad let me play dark age of camelot on his computer, we had to name my character "imonly5yearsold" but it made people be really cool with me and they used simple language and took me around to stuff, trolled me a little. Cant replace that experience in 2024

  • @josephbernardthesecond4974
    @josephbernardthesecond4974 Рік тому +356

    I was pleasantly surprised how civil the conversation was.

    • @badabingbing474
      @badabingbing474 Рік тому +44

      People were betting on Destiny getting mad

    • @Femboyfcker88
      @Femboyfcker88 Рік тому +2

      FR

    • @Blizz3112
      @Blizz3112 Рік тому +13

      I mean... he had Nick Fuentes on his channel before... :-P

    • @kojibubble8215
      @kojibubble8215 Рік тому +40

      They're both grown adults with communities they've been holding up for years, ofc they're matu- wait nvm that doesn't work

    • @bojanglesfries
      @bojanglesfries Рік тому +13

      Null and Destiny are secretly bros. Keffals was right!
      (obvious sarcasm is obvious)

  • @Trololo231
    @Trololo231 Рік тому +307

    I saw this live and i just wanna say that Null's podcast is 10/10. I've seen you there a few times, Turkey man. The guy really knows how to put content together for his streams.

    • @cajuncooyan7193
      @cajuncooyan7193 Рік тому +1

      Yay! Turkey Tom. Good job!

    • @DecoraGarfoid
      @DecoraGarfoid Рік тому +26

      I'm addicted to his streams. It's a sickness.

    • @bengixd
      @bengixd Рік тому +8

      Turkish Thomas isn't a normie he's been in the MATI chat during the show for at least over a year now

    • @Trololo231
      @Trololo231 Рік тому +4

      @@bengixd He and Cecil Mcfly, the BEASTS

    • @DecoraGarfoid
      @DecoraGarfoid Рік тому +2

      @@Trololo231 I love Cecil too.

  • @misterdedlift4879
    @misterdedlift4879 Рік тому +259

    Null is pretty dang eloquent for a challenged canine.

  • @vampire_juicebox
    @vampire_juicebox Рік тому +267

    I'm always surprised with how well articulated Null is. Man has some batshit insane ideas, but I can't not listen to whatever he says because he says it in such a clear and elegant way.

    • @nikolaiunzucced507
      @nikolaiunzucced507 Рік тому +15

      What are his ideas

    • @leroysmith4616
      @leroysmith4616 Рік тому

      @@nikolaiunzucced507 Nothign special, he's just not a corporate minded cuck like 90% of modern men

    • @HEALORDER
      @HEALORDER Рік тому +48

      u shoulda been there when he’d say erver instead of over hahahaah

    • @bengixd
      @bengixd Рік тому

      @@HEALORDER he does that all the time he just speaks like some sort of autistic with a speech impediment

    • @ZapparoniWorks
      @ZapparoniWorks Рік тому +15

      @@nikolaiunzucced507 They never say.

  • @jiggyfreshape2128
    @jiggyfreshape2128 Рік тому +99

    Congratulations to my best friend josh for keeping the resistance alive

  • @baddragonite
    @baddragonite Рік тому +47

    Destiny jokes about the apartment thing, but honestly between the stuff with Null and people like Dick Masterson being blacklisted by visa and Mastercard it really doesn't seem that far off

    • @MVPUnlucky
      @MVPUnlucky Рік тому +6

      People think that it's an extreme that can't happen to "the free world". Unfortunately nothing is forever, and everything eventually falls to destruction and tyrants. Peace is never forever and has to be fought for to maintain. Unfortunately people stopped fighting for it in our world of modern internet decadence, and apathy has given way to tyranny.

    • @UGLY-MONEY17
      @UGLY-MONEY17 4 місяці тому

      …..that’s really not good lol. I didn’t know credit card companies were able (or willing) to do that. You could easily force people to submit and/or agree to some insane shit, by cutting off their access to banking lmao. Ugh the future is looking very freaky

  • @andreiiancu2501
    @andreiiancu2501 Рік тому +63

    Tom ended the conversation sooo suddenly

  • @SpunkMcKullins
    @SpunkMcKullins Рік тому +111

    People like to shit on Null because they don't understand the Farms' legality, but not enough people respect him for the amount of shit he deals with, his conviction to his ideas, and the work he's done to aim for a truly free internet.

    • @baconsarny-geddon8298
      @baconsarny-geddon8298 Рік тому +38

      Josh has some kooky politics (of varying degrees of sincerity), that I disavow, but overall the man is a goddam hero, a genuinely down-to-earth, decent guy, and extremely insightful in a way you may not always agree with, but it's always an interesting taken you haven't heard before.
      But he's also a super-easy target for "cancelization" and for people to just dismiss everything he ever says/does, because of the current (cancerous af) mindset that "he said X with I disagree, therefore he CAN ONLY be an irredeemable scumbag (even if everything EXCEPT "x" is 100% in line with your own beliefs- See the left and JK Rowling)"
      The internet needs 50 more people like Josh.

    • @ZapparoniWorks
      @ZapparoniWorks Рік тому +33

      @@baconsarny-geddon8298 What "kooky politics?" I hate seeing this kind of comment over and over, the snide vague shot at him before any compliment.

    • @baconsarny-geddon8298
      @baconsarny-geddon8298 Рік тому +1

      @@ZapparoniWorks lol, are you serious?!? Lets see... We have support for North Korea (that he insisted was based on sincere belief), a seemingly unironic admiration for the Chinese gov't. The standard autistic fixation with the small-hats. An absolutely hilarious pathological hatred for the Anglo that makes me laugh, but I wouldn't want to co-sign it.
      I genuinely admire Josh, but his politics are a schizo mix of random far-left and far-right points, both with equal measures of sincerity, vs "lol, jk" "ironic" beliefs. Who the fvck WOULDN'T call his politics "kooky"?!!

    • @Waxican
      @Waxican Рік тому +9

      @@ZapparoniWorks You may be surprised to learn this, but not everyone is racist or (can’t believe I’m saying this stupid term) homophobic. How dense do you have to be to not pick up that they are most likely talking about his views on race and sexuality?

    • @ZapparoniWorks
      @ZapparoniWorks Рік тому

      @@Waxican Everyone is racist and everyone knows queers are gross. The only question is whether you suppress that.

  • @manwithaplan135
    @manwithaplan135 Рік тому +104

    It's crazy to think that I'm 22 and my first time using the internet was at like 6.
    I can definitely say the internet had "character" each place was a new personality, vibe and or experience.
    Now its so bland and even corporate. Just look at how the sites visually look they are all so clean and fine tuned to the point they all are basically the same template but with a different coat of paint.
    The internet won't be like it was, but there is a chance something may spark a resurgence in individuality. I miss it

    • @samsalamander8147
      @samsalamander8147 Рік тому +5

      I’m 38 I had AOL at ten in 95 and played Duke Nukem I grew up with Computer class every year in school the first time I went online was in the 3rd grade at 8 I played monopoly it took forever that was in 92-93 at my neighbors house by 2000 when I was 15 everyone’s houses had computers My Grandfather in his 80s at the time gambled online. My Daughter is 16 she had her first smart phone at 4 I got her a Samsung smartphone they were by one get one half off at best buy she literally grew up with a tablet in one hand and a video game controller in her other hand how are you 22 and didn’t get online until you were 6 are you Amish or do you live in a 3rd world country I’m confused?

    • @Beyblade_worrior
      @Beyblade_worrior Рік тому +5

      Damn man 2000-2016 rip internet

    • @miniondaechir
      @miniondaechir Рік тому +6

      I'm 23 and started using the Internet at age 7, and I completely agree.
      The modding forums and chat sites I used to frequent (not to mention old UA-cam) was such a more vibrant yet generally civil place.
      Truly a lost age.

    • @samsalamander8147
      @samsalamander8147 Рік тому +2

      @@miniondaechir I’m going to say this again because this is baffling to me how? How could my first time using the internet be the same as yours and I’m 38. My daughter is 16 and when she was 1 I used to make her UA-cam playlists on my computer and she would watch hours of Sesame st. Skits she knew how to point and click with a mouse at the time and your not that much older than her. I was under the impression people ten years younger than me or more all grew up from baby’s with the internet. At least everyone born after 2000.

    • @WhyamIhereonthisplanet
      @WhyamIhereonthisplanet Рік тому

      @@cj-vp9rf Yeah mass surveillance and tracking sure is better 🙄

  • @barackosama6808
    @barackosama6808 Рік тому +19

    I think we should take a moment and appreciate the fellas in chat, we got Femboyfcker88, blacked meowbahh, Walter color, chad king, Morphine, Tripp Zeleskey, and Emil Frederiksen. I’ve noticed Mr. Femboyfcker88 in most of these videos, and personally he’s my favorite, but Walter color’s got a good point about the disastrous effects on the human race from industrialization. -skellabro- appears to take a more controversial stance, proclaiming “pedophilia w”. Very cool chat thank you 💀

  • @Rockan
    @Rockan Рік тому +74

    Collab of the century

  • @ctrouble2309
    @ctrouble2309 Рік тому +14

    It seems like at the beginning this was supposed to be a drama thing with the two of them going at each other, but im glad they were both respectful. Petty differences mean nothing in the face of serious threats.

  • @lilexistentialcrisis2197
    @lilexistentialcrisis2197 Рік тому +27

    There used to be a hacker radio show in NY called ‘off the hook’ you can still listen to archives of it, they discussed the future of telecommunications and over reaching companies trying to get your data and control you and it’s very interesting to listen to especially when you compare it to this kind of stream. We are living in their absolute worse nightmare of what they envisioned the future to look like.

  • @Funnyvid16
    @Funnyvid16 Рік тому +54

    Everyone is scared to be on kiwi farms, but no one asks why they show up there. It’s stupid that this always get overlooked

    • @verververververver
      @verververververver Рік тому +10

      These people will go through any amount of effort to hide the fact they're horrible people

    • @googleisevil8958
      @googleisevil8958 Рік тому +6

      This remind is way late but Kiwi Farms was founded original because of the CWCIKI Forums. Which was dedicated to one guy who was completely insane. Then it shifted because said guy when dark for years and they started talking about other people who were and still just as messed up as he was.
      That was the point of the Kiwi. To talk about these people who were, in some degrees, completely insane.

    • @YusifAgayev-ck1br
      @YusifAgayev-ck1br Місяць тому

      @@googleisevil8958 I mean, it still is the point of kiwi... the definition of "lolcow" is really not flattering, lmao. The overwhelming majority of people with threads on the farms are genuinely despicable people.

  • @vilesyn
    @vilesyn Рік тому +10

    It’s nice to finally hear two people have a meaningful conversation for once….

  • @satoshiwasareptiloid3777
    @satoshiwasareptiloid3777 Рік тому +29

    Good job hosting this, Tom.
    I saw you got some praise in Destiny's chat as well right after this, you didn't budge in but had good questions on hand when there was dead air.
    The ending felt a bit early, but better leave people wanting more than letting it just drag on until it gets boring.

  • @HuhWhatHuhwhatHuh
    @HuhWhatHuhwhatHuh Рік тому +12

    I can attest to the IP black hole from different ISP’s. Ran a DNS lookup on Kiwi from my work ISP and it claimed it didn’t exist.

    • @srsly3602
      @srsly3602 День тому

      Old ass comment but your comment probably just has a proxy that blocks certain sites. Has nothing to do with your ISP

  • @thealmightyjack
    @thealmightyjack Рік тому +85

    Ironic for Destiny to call Kiwifarms mentally unhealthy for people when literally anyone who watches twitch and UA-cam streamers obsessively are arguably more mentally unstable, losers.

    • @redwoodclimber
      @redwoodclimber Рік тому +44

      I’m sure if you pushed him on it he’d agree generally. The problem is with the toxic way people engage with the platforms. Kiwifarms by its nature probably attracts more of those people than yt or twitch because it’s less mainstream and requires a certain level of cultural buy in to become a regular user. Selection bias.

    • @XQQ-qm8ow
      @XQQ-qm8ow Рік тому +21

      I don't think that's a proper argument at all when you consider that most kids and adults alike (in Europe/North America) frequent a certain UA-camr's channel or streamer's stream that they consider they favourite (though probably not the the point of viewing it obsessively). In a way it really isn't all that different from tuning in to your favourite soap opera or radio broadcast. If your generalization was actually true then a large fraction of the population would consist of mentally unstable losers.
      As for KiwiFarmers, only a minute few of the average population actually frequent that site, let alone being autistic enough to waste countless hours of their life away doing deep dives into other autists on the Internet.

    • @thealmightyjack
      @thealmightyjack Рік тому +1

      @@XQQ-qm8ow hot take, children shouldn't be allowed on the internet. Especially not at the rate of being chronically online almost the entire time they are awake every single day, it's making them illiterate drubes just like how TV has turned the average Boomer into a mindless zombie, but at least most Boomers are literate. Don't believe me, look at the literacy rate, which today's standards are extremely generous just to funnel kids through the system without teaching them anything and they still fail to meet those standards.

    • @XQQ-qm8ow
      @XQQ-qm8ow Рік тому +4

      @@thealmightyjack maybe this is a hot take amongst children themselves and lazy parents, but yeah, there is something truly terrible about how obsessively children spend their time away on their electronics. Many kids can't stand being alone or in silence because of how rampant these modes of escapism have become.
      On the brighter side though the Internet has provided means for just about anyone to have unlimited access to information, which can definitely help more conscientious kids further cultivate their knowledge and passions.

    • @ZapparoniWorks
      @ZapparoniWorks Рік тому

      @@XQQ-qm8ow If you think most people frequent an eceleb's chat you are totally delusional and disconnected from social reality.

  • @FringeSpectre
    @FringeSpectre Рік тому +62

    Null and Destiny in a conversation? Did we shift timelines? I distinctly remember Null saying he would never talk to Destiny. This will be good.

    • @micoalcala3049
      @micoalcala3049 Рік тому +2

      Can you tell me why he said that?

    • @FringeSpectre
      @FringeSpectre Рік тому +32

      @@micoalcala3049 because Destiny associates with .PDF files like Mr. Girl. Maybe because they hate eachother now Null is comfortable with it, or maybe it's because he wants to get his ideas about the internet disseminated into Destiny's audience.

    • @FerroMagelock
      @FerroMagelock Рік тому +10

      @@FringeSpectre This is the correct awnser

    • @frankbooth2879
      @frankbooth2879 Рік тому +3

      @@FringeSpectre why was Null banned from blockland?

    • @francisconikotian2326
      @francisconikotian2326 Рік тому

      yea but he distanced himself from the pedos, I guess thats why

  • @Femboyfcker88
    @Femboyfcker88 Рік тому +51

    I hate seeing myself in chat so much

    • @pancakekidgaming8273
      @pancakekidgaming8273 Рік тому +2

      Me too

    • @Femboyfcker88
      @Femboyfcker88 Рік тому

      @@pancakekidgaming8273 ITS SO EMBARRASSING

    • @riv7797
      @riv7797 Рік тому +22

      You willingly comment during the livestreams. You're the one person I remember from the chat because even Tom acknowledges you

    • @Femboyfcker88
      @Femboyfcker88 Рік тому +3

      @@riv7797 Tom doesn’t now he kept NEGLECTING any superchats 😒

    • @riv7797
      @riv7797 Рік тому

      @@Femboyfcker88 I wonder why Femboyfcker88

  • @scarletsletter4466
    @scarletsletter4466 Рік тому +8

    ❤ I’m so happy these guys are chatting. 😊

  • @DecoraGarfoid
    @DecoraGarfoid Рік тому +9

    Thanks for not talking down to jershy poo this time 👍It was a little weird how abruptly it ended but great stream!

  • @Pippu
    @Pippu Рік тому +21

    What an engaging conversation, I almost didn't notice how terribly inefficient that farm was.

  • @RollingBobbyJones
    @RollingBobbyJones Рік тому +20

    This was a pleasant conversation

  • @UrwanMichelangelo
    @UrwanMichelangelo Рік тому +33

    I dont have anything against Turkey Tom but he is terrible as a host. trying to get destiny to talk about cuties for some reason and cut way too early without even getting questions from the chat or something

    • @vaporghoul
      @vaporghoul Рік тому

      he isnt a bad host however he is a shit minecraft player lmao

    • @EricDrinksWater
      @EricDrinksWater Рік тому +5

      He's new to it. He's still Baby Tom

    • @ZapparoniWorks
      @ZapparoniWorks Рік тому +5

      Cuties is how most of the kiwi farms audience even knows of destiny's existence.

  • @LightAndDarkMdness02
    @LightAndDarkMdness02 Рік тому +18

    Tom. You're a legend for hosting this

  • @unskilledlabor5229
    @unskilledlabor5229 Рік тому +7

    America's most prolific feeder. Wasn't expecting to hear from him.
    Open exchange of ideas and opinions and speech seem to be his things. Some are offensive and wrong but that's reality and up to you to agree or dismiss.

  • @sjilia
    @sjilia 11 місяців тому +6

    is tom deep breathing each time null talks or am i just imagining that

  • @towermice
    @towermice Рік тому +27

    brotha this farm is bringing me phsyical pain

    • @jaykelley103
      @jaykelley103 Рік тому +6

      It brings me physical p l e a s u r e

  • @Beyblade_worrior
    @Beyblade_worrior Рік тому +11

    God I miss old net

    • @brolybroly4485
      @brolybroly4485 Рік тому +4

      same. e celebs and commentary and drama channels ruined youtube especially with their bogus morals and standards

    • @Beyblade_worrior
      @Beyblade_worrior Рік тому +5

      @@brolybroly4485 man this used to be a free speech platform where you can actually broadcast yourself instead of broadcasting enough so Suzan doesn’t black hole your channel

    • @Beyblade_worrior
      @Beyblade_worrior Рік тому

      @@brolybroly4485 getting so tired of cucking my own speech

    • @fatcat5817
      @fatcat5817 9 місяців тому

      It's always been a weapon to put someone in their place. Usually, when the OG old culture bois did it, it was because you did something effed up or were a lolcow. Now the same weapons can be used by the inferior in everyway alt-left, their goal usually? Harassing you/ruining your life until you submit to their cult. Even Dream and Tubbo FEAR their fans. 😹 They could use the same weapons (anonymously) against them, to knock some sense. But I guess they Learned Helplessness. 🤷‍♀️ (Even literal muslim terrorists like the alt-left because they lack any uniting/core principles. They consider them stupid/useful idiots. Unlike the alt-right. The guys own words. Not mine. Pretty sad! Not! 😂)

  • @baddragonite
    @baddragonite Рік тому +9

    Nick Rekieta also hinted in the past that Fuentes might be related to the swatting stuff. Mainly because the second he brought up a criticism of Fuentes is when people started calling the cops on him.

  • @WiseOwl_1408
    @WiseOwl_1408 6 місяців тому +5

    His eyes are wide apart

  • @hideem1
    @hideem1 2 місяці тому +1

    Man, I remember when this happened. I was still using Twitter at the time. In the middle of one of the hate threads, I responded that I thought the Farms was fun to read sometimes, that the language was mean at times, but the people there were mostly harmless… the dog pile of hate I got from that one tweet was insane. This wasn’t right at all. If people don’t want to read a forum, they should stay off that forum. I think it was bs. I’m really disappointed that this happened.

  • @chuck419ful
    @chuck419ful Рік тому +10

    This was litty, I’m a huge dest and Tom fan. Hopefully more colabs in the future

  • @JayAymi
    @JayAymi Рік тому

    I never knew this community had such much tea. I love your dedication and publications, Tom!

  • @cooldude5947
    @cooldude5947 Рік тому +2

    Well, I can't say I was expecting this to show up on my feed today

  • @lotsclosed19
    @lotsclosed19 Рік тому +54

    Destiny sometimes really is so closed to being based. Then be proceeds to say the dumbest thing ever. Wish the best for him for all intensive purposes tho

    • @kyliesmith9915
      @kyliesmith9915 Рік тому +7

      Can you give an example

    • @lotsclosed19
      @lotsclosed19 Рік тому

      @@kyliesmith9915 he'll callout hypocritical things on the left and some big problems the left perpetrate. Then proceed to unironically think Joe Biden is a good president or have some weird moral belief in his personal life. Yeah Ik it's his personal life, it's still cringe and reflects character.

    • @redwoodclimber
      @redwoodclimber Рік тому +19

      *intents and purposes :)

    • @yungpm
      @yungpm Рік тому

      Kinda like how you were close to being based then said the stupidest shit ever “intensive purposes” come on.

    • @DecoraGarfoid
      @DecoraGarfoid Рік тому

      I agree

  • @Teruko666
    @Teruko666 Рік тому +10

    I agree wirh a lot of Null's points, but I think his nonchalantness with doxxing is fucked up.
    His claim that "people *only* dont want to get doxxed because they don't want their embarassimg stuff to be associated with the rest of their social presence" works on a lot of assumptions and is completely dismissive to *every* real issue with doxxing.

    • @fatcat5817
      @fatcat5817 9 місяців тому

      It's always been a weapon to put someone in their place. Usually, when the OG old culture bois did it, it was because you did something effed up or were a lolcow. Now the same weapons can be used by the inferior in everyway alt-left, their goal usually? Harassing you/ruining your life until you submit to their cult. Even Dream and Tubbo FEAR their fans. 😹 They could use the same weapons (anonymously) against them, to knock some sense. But I guess they Learned Helplessness. 🤷‍♀️ (Even literal muslim terrorists like the alt-left because they lack any uniting/core principles. They consider them stupid/useful idiots. Unlike the alt-right. The guys own words. Not mine. Pretty sad! Not! 😂)

    • @chadthundercock3440
      @chadthundercock3440 8 місяців тому +4

      Kiwi farms does not dox normal people tho only the criminally insane

    • @КГБКолДжорджКостанца
      @КГБКолДжорджКостанца 5 місяців тому +1

      Don't they dox leftists or anybody they don't like on the political spectrum ​@@chadthundercock3440

    • @weirdautumn
      @weirdautumn 4 місяці тому

      ​@@fatcat5817I love the fact that the left adopted the tactics of doxxing and harassment rightoids have been using for decades at this point. Really put some of you nazis in place

    • @bluechains3452
      @bluechains3452 2 місяці тому

      @@КГБКолДжорджКостанца Lol what? KF doesn't have one political stance so this idea that they pick a side to screw over is insane.

  • @JediMasterKitFisto
    @JediMasterKitFisto Рік тому +3

    watching tom play minecraft causes me physical pain

  • @codexmachina1358
    @codexmachina1358 11 місяців тому +5

    Revisiting this, p obvious why destiny didnt get this clipped to his own channels despite the views he would get. He would NEVER humanize josh to the degree josh humanized himself. His "mhmm" showed how nervous he was to even be a part of the discussion when he found out how reasonable jersh is

    • @ronpudding9598
      @ronpudding9598 11 місяців тому +1

      Feel like you're reading WAY too much into a simple mhmm lol. That's how Destiny talks, with anyone.

  • @Vikanuck
    @Vikanuck 10 місяців тому +1

    45:40 “Their wifi pillow that fuckin’ jerks them off”
    😂😂
    That was the most random thing to hear in the middle of smoking a bowl and almost made me laugh in the middle of it which likely would have resulted in me coughing up a lung haha 😆
    But I’m totally stealing that and saying it next time I have the opportunity lol.

  • @tornadoesdontstopspinnin6271
    @tornadoesdontstopspinnin6271 11 місяців тому +1

    Tom I love ya man. I usually can’t stand UA-camrs but you do a great job.

  • @hennesey8
    @hennesey8 Місяць тому +1

    This right here is why I love turkey

  • @Beyblade_worrior
    @Beyblade_worrior Рік тому +68

    Lucas keffels is a man guys come on

    • @aryanprivilege9651
      @aryanprivilege9651 Рік тому

      The abomination never equaled and none will offend all more, enemy of all creation and being. Selfishness hatred of all existence all us and forever anti life went to destroy all existence forever. This hypocritical Stephan hypocrisy nothing will ever match that plague K death but the ML R Ala MLH rape of savior of dying crying babies raped to birth a child of SA sadistic theocide Billions for just our god consumed HH PF Semmelhaackenkreuz-himmel k awful destroyers what nature creates and wars on it. Give Jersh whatever wishes, & nature skull for racks, foulest filthy inhuman evil beyond all. Keffidth and Rychlak murderer and open case terrorist of judge crane murderer of dozens acted to save a kind hearted person all loved. They won’t l know was she tried to delete it, why if merely inconsequential?

    • @thilsiktonix
      @thilsiktonix Рік тому +6

      ratio

    • @coral250
      @coral250 Рік тому +20

      @@thilsiktonix”ratio” 🤡🤡🤡

    • @pill1154
      @pill1154 Рік тому +2

      Is that keffels real male name

    • @seston8637
      @seston8637 Рік тому

      ​@@pill1154yes

  • @Leatherargento
    @Leatherargento Рік тому +4

    The people who want Net Neutrality back need to make their point in a way the people can understand, or, it's not coming back.

    • @Leatherargento
      @Leatherargento Рік тому +4

      If you want people to understand things the way you do, you have to say things in a way people understand. Period. That's how these things work. You can't just say "If you don't get it, you're a r****d." For obvious reasons.

    • @walter7787
      @walter7787 11 місяців тому +4

      From what i understand, net neutrality basically prevents ISPs from slowing, blocking or paywalling internet content. Without net neutrality, these companies basically have your internet experience on a leash. If a provider doesnt like a certain site, bam. You cant use that site. If the internet provider wants to charge you extra to visit certain sites, they can now do that. The only thing we’ve really seen happen on a large scale is the blocking as of now, but nobody really cares because like destiny said, it only really happens to fringe sites like KF.

    • @fatcat5817
      @fatcat5817 9 місяців тому

      Always remember a other weapon handheld EMPs. Tor, and P2P internet.

    • @Blurredborderlines
      @Blurredborderlines 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Leatherargento The problem is that it's such a no brainer opinion that the only conclusion you can come to for oppositon is personal investment if you're just evil, or you're brainwashed into simping for corporations and the government, neither of those groups are able to be reasoned with because of their position, it's like the Mr.Girl situation where no matter how wrong he was he just kept doubling down.

  • @dantheman585
    @dantheman585 Рік тому +3

    The way Tom's farm is laid out is stressing me out

  • @redline841
    @redline841 Рік тому +32

    Just say "he" Tom. They can't get you here.

    • @millionare5446
      @millionare5446 Рік тому +1

      talmudic tom is a good goy, he genuinely believes that you have to encourage mental illness

    • @davidsplooge14
      @davidsplooge14 Рік тому

      I am here

  • @angeldixon5786
    @angeldixon5786 Рік тому +3

    finally your talking to destiny

  • @tyler-xo3rb
    @tyler-xo3rb 15 днів тому

    50:32 cut to all of steven's "manifestos"
    👍

  • @user-tq2ot5be2l
    @user-tq2ot5be2l Рік тому +10

    early 00s internet was magical. no one took shit seriously. if you whined to someone that a person was mean to you online, you'd be rightly ridiculed.

  • @boofgremlin
    @boofgremlin Рік тому +10

    W Null. W KF.

  • @chaselaird1377
    @chaselaird1377 Рік тому +2

    If we listen closely, we can hear Tom creaming himself after interviewing dest

  • @notfugazi
    @notfugazi Рік тому +2

    Rly good combo my firiend, hop you do More like this in the future

  • @Filip_Agrippa
    @Filip_Agrippa Рік тому +22

    People are just mad, that Kiwis dig up their terrible deeds. The content of the site is on the site. You don't see it if you don't go there. It's not active harassment. Actually it's the other way around as you can see from what happened to Josh.

  • @joshuahogue3336
    @joshuahogue3336 Місяць тому

    Tom huge fan I can't believe your from New England. I'm also a huge fan of destiny keep it up man new hampshire cheering for ya

  • @camochase
    @camochase 3 місяці тому

    Great conversation. I'm pretty used to the degen shit that you talk about but it was a nice change of pace to have such a high level conversation about freedom of speech and net neutrality

  • @walterlippmann6292
    @walterlippmann6292 2 місяці тому

    The irony of Josh telling destiny that he doesn't like Nick Fuentes because he would "get you de-platformed" if he could, while destiny was the guy who went out of his way to get Nick de-platformed on twitch is just delicious.

  • @fladoodel
    @fladoodel Місяць тому

    So true about hot the mid 2000s Internet being like the wild West. Literally the possibilities were endless. It really is a shame

  • @Beefytiing
    @Beefytiing 11 днів тому

    TIL it's not immoral to host harassment sites on the internet - via Destiny

  • @luminajay3437
    @luminajay3437 Рік тому +12

    That must be kinda surreal for Tom to have destiny on, like as a fan but also fellow creator

    • @CavemanCrafts86
      @CavemanCrafts86 Рік тому

      Only pedos are fans of destiny. The dude is so pathetic he has to take bookings from Ethan Ralph.

    • @coolmanyea5030
      @coolmanyea5030 Рік тому +2

      He probably came

  • @quillclock
    @quillclock 4 місяці тому +2

    lol what a trash chat. I don't think anyone said anything about the topic at hand.

  • @SkeIetor
    @SkeIetor Рік тому +2

    Tom why did you make your name the same on the farms?

  • @wakingupat2pm349
    @wakingupat2pm349 Рік тому +1

    I love our hope and saviour jersh sun

  • @user-wp5no6cn2b
    @user-wp5no6cn2b 5 місяців тому +2

    40:30 Yeah, paradoxically, even though the internet was a wild west, there were fewer psychos

  • @Femboyfcker88
    @Femboyfcker88 Рік тому +7

    Who’s that in chat?

    • @jimboblordofeskimos
      @jimboblordofeskimos Рік тому +2

      Dunno, but goddam are they cringe.
      Lets point and laugh at this embarrassment.

    • @Femboyfcker88
      @Femboyfcker88 Рік тому

      @@jimboblordofeskimos I need to stop commenting so much 😭

    • @Drizzledrake2
      @Drizzledrake2 Рік тому

      ​@@Femboyfcker88skelethon 💀💀💀

  • @lovemeashitshow3884
    @lovemeashitshow3884 8 місяців тому +1

    id love to run into keffals i got some questions and no public persona

  • @cherrygate8303
    @cherrygate8303 Рік тому +1

    I love hearing tom breathing

  • @RexVergstrong
    @RexVergstrong Рік тому +1

    Welp, Destiny was completely wrong about Reddit being great for archives.

  • @Max-df6qt
    @Max-df6qt 2 місяці тому

    That was fucking great! Loved the conversation

  • @MagnusAduro
    @MagnusAduro 5 місяців тому

    Antiporn payment processor stuff sure came back in force.

  • @aa-sv8td
    @aa-sv8td Рік тому +1

    There's a line for lo lee porn where people start to make 3D models... I'm okay with drawings and more abstract stuff but when they make realistic renders thats too far.

  • @trustyourgut1365
    @trustyourgut1365 Рік тому +4

    Personally I think we need a top down redress of our current system or it will collapse and most won't make it. I'm not "left or right" because I'm not brain dead and understand they both belong to one bird of prey🤷🏼‍♂️ we must have civilian oversight on just about everything and a "passing of the torch" so to speak or it's lights out for all of us! Use your voice and use it loud and often or we're fucked👍🏻 very murky subject for sure but you guys explained it well🙏🏼 best of luck and thank you for sharing

    • @pja6476
      @pja6476 Рік тому +1

      You talk like a Twitter user

    • @trustyourgut1365
      @trustyourgut1365 Рік тому +1

      @pja6476 whatever tf that means😆 I don't have twatter

    • @pja6476
      @pja6476 Рік тому

      @@trustyourgut1365 you use more emoji's then a teenage girl being passive aggressive against her boyfriend.

    • @trustyourgut1365
      @trustyourgut1365 Рік тому +1

      @@pja6476 and?🤣

    • @trustyourgut1365
      @trustyourgut1365 Рік тому +1

      @@pja6476 you use your brain in the same manner👍🏻

  • @NeNukee
    @NeNukee Рік тому +3

    Bro let me join your minecraft world
    you need my help i will show you how to play
    You trying to farm wheat makes me very mad

  • @victorgueldry9021
    @victorgueldry9021 Рік тому +8

    On the part on how old internet was so much better: guys, it couldn't stay that way. Every new thing goes through this paradise phase before going mainstream. It's like regretting the chess board when the pieces were being set up. The old internet was new grounds, full of opportunities, some players overplayed these opportunities, welcome in the aftermath. Also, 50% of traffic by 12 companies, all right, but in absolute numbers, I bet there's actually more people that still go in the alternatives sites that in the hay days, most of the new users are simply contempt with the big Mac...

    • @vangoghsseveredear
      @vangoghsseveredear Рік тому +3

      Change is inevitable.
      Sitting idly by and watching the destruction of speech because it doesn't fit the current political climates idea of okay is not. That is literally what China and communist countries do, but on a world-wide scale.
      This isn't Twitter banning bad words. This is setting a precedent that there are things you are not allowed to say at all online. Even if you don't like Kiwi Farms, it's a massive deal. If this is allowed to happen, it's going to happen more and more and before long the right to what we can see on the internet is gone completely, decided by a group of people who could use this to further their own interests or worse.
      If it sounds hyperbolic, it's not. We're literally already seeing it happen.

    • @fatcat5817
      @fatcat5817 9 місяців тому

      You can knock out the whole U.S. grid with a homemade EMP. Or make a handheld one. 😏 Weapons for the fight if necessary.

    • @Mooglatan
      @Mooglatan 8 місяців тому +1

      @@fatcat5817 do it then nerd.

  • @jaykelley103
    @jaykelley103 Рік тому +16

    Null W even though this wasnt a bloodsport.

    • @mytandasouder4485
      @mytandasouder4485 Рік тому

      I saw someone said he has a podcast?

    • @Computerdude323
      @Computerdude323 Рік тому +1

      @@mytandasouder4485 His podcast is called "Mad at the Internet"

  • @merlunie
    @merlunie Рік тому

    Not the Kiwi Farms origin story starting with Chris Chan.

  • @S.B.C-Pixi
    @S.B.C-Pixi Рік тому +3

    1:09:56 An intranet is what China has.

  • @mochi_b8r
    @mochi_b8r Рік тому +3

    Didn't expect Destiny to have a based take on Iolicon

  • @SpazyLoki
    @SpazyLoki Рік тому +4

    Has Tom talked to keffals about a debate or something? Thought they were ganna do something like that

    • @catboyrepublican2520
      @catboyrepublican2520 Рік тому +15

      Keffals sperged out and cancelled after Tom talked with Null, then Keffals "reacted" to the Tom and Null chat on stream and acted like a toddler.

    • @vangoghsseveredear
      @vangoghsseveredear Рік тому +6

      Assuming Keffals would show up to a debate lmfao

    • @TeemoQuinton
      @TeemoQuinton Рік тому

      @@catboyrepublican2520 sounds correct

  • @blaisesposato4164
    @blaisesposato4164 9 місяців тому

    Microeconomics fan describing the economy at 26:22

  • @gedezarx
    @gedezarx Рік тому

    My god make some slabs or trapdoors cover up the water between rows of crops.

  • @Jomit427
    @Jomit427 3 місяці тому

    Destiny usually is rapid fire annoying and Null is chill AF the entire time resulting in a reasonable discussion. It'd be nice if they'd talk again but they're both batshit insane and incredibly mean.

  • @barn8110
    @barn8110 Рік тому

    Pls post the bit from the stream with the Ed guy about old dirty b-tard or whoever he was that was quality.

  • @breakdancingisraeli14
    @breakdancingisraeli14 5 місяців тому +3

    Destiny is insufferable and cringe.

  • @ComradeGreykov
    @ComradeGreykov 9 місяців тому

    Skellabro saying some mad suspicious things in chat

  • @golderzoa
    @golderzoa Рік тому +1

    yeah...Internet's dead time to make skynet

    • @fatcat5817
      @fatcat5817 9 місяців тому +1

      My guy, the whole U.S. grid is held together by paperclips. 🤫😏 Our little electromagnetic nuke secret. Russia is hardening theirs.

  • @proberush
    @proberush 10 місяців тому

    great chat

  • @user-wp5no6cn2b
    @user-wp5no6cn2b 5 місяців тому +1

    5:51

  • @Satsujinki007
    @Satsujinki007 4 місяці тому

    26:08 You know net neutrality has to be established when the kinda guy who is against it has blacked on his name

  • @KOFUNLOADED
    @KOFUNLOADED Рік тому

    Why did he end the stream so suddenly

  • @laindoer333
    @laindoer333 Рік тому +1

    if you dont unban me from your discord i will tell the federal bureau of investigation what youre cooking up in your basement

  • @Springspan
    @Springspan Рік тому +2

    New video title: I click over people talking for an hour and a half

  • @downwardsspiral7454
    @downwardsspiral7454 Рік тому

    bump for algorithm

  • @P3rs0nalAcc0unt-mc9vq
    @P3rs0nalAcc0unt-mc9vq 9 місяців тому

    Whats stopping people from getting around the bank censorship by accepting cryptocurrency and if push comes to shove just sell the crypto to individuals

  • @ChakraZulu36
    @ChakraZulu36 Рік тому +4

    I don't like the way people act on kiwifarms, but I also believe nobody should be cancelling people from speaking their truth. If you don't like something move on. Cancelling doesn't solve problem of hate. It just moves it.

    • @pbjandahighfive
      @pbjandahighfive Рік тому +14

      I'm willing to bet you probably don't actually have that accurate of an idea concerning how people on KF act and that your personal understanding is mostly influenced by hearsay and not experience. KF at its core is an archive of information and a place to talk about weird/gross people who make a spectacle of themselves on the Internet. There is no one political affiliation or social ideology among the users. KF consists of an extremely diverse set of people from around the entire world and the topics found there range the full gamut of beliefs and philosophies. The only truly binding tenet that almost all users share is that of a strong belief in the natural born right of free speech.

    • @fatcat5817
      @fatcat5817 9 місяців тому

      I want to use a handheld Emp device at your house. 😍

  • @KaplenPayne
    @KaplenPayne 9 місяців тому

    1:30:48
    And like with every power grab the right does, the left picks it up and can use it far better

    • @pja6476
      @pja6476 3 місяці тому

      Like Greece lol?

  • @moufronn
    @moufronn Рік тому +3

    moufronn

  • @jisusoo7217
    @jisusoo7217 5 місяців тому

    black mirror be like: