Question #5: What is the Anglican view of Predestination and Election?

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  • @Joequaile
    @Joequaile 3 роки тому +12

    I know its not all about me, but this video does put me at ease. Because the Calvinistic view is just too severe.

    • @michaeljennings8221
      @michaeljennings8221 2 роки тому +6

      Same! As one who is exploring Anglicanism, I was afraid that the only Anglican view is Calvinism.

  • @awkwardanglican7474
    @awkwardanglican7474 4 роки тому +5

    Good explanation. It did clear things up for me. I just found out that what I already believe, is the Anglican Church's position! :) Another good reason to be Anglican. Thanks.

  • @ΚύριοςἸησοῦς-ρ9ε

    I just found your channel! Amazing! I am also a Molinist I was really happy to see you are one! Because of many of the same reasons you present in other places, I am also considering the possibility of becoming anglican (currently non denominational protestant). I will visit the UK London soon and would really love to have a recommendation for a good anglican church there to visit... Because most of them seem either very liberal or almost like your regular baptist church...

  • @DeFyYing
    @DeFyYing 3 роки тому +1

    Hello Father, excellent video! Would you say that the Tractarians also championed Molinism? What was their tendency regarding soteriology?

  • @michaeljennings8221
    @michaeljennings8221 2 роки тому

    I'm so glad I watched this video. I'm a Molinist who is new to the Anglican tradition.
    I do have one question. Do you believe that a Christian can forfeit his salvation? I'm a Molinist but I disagree with most Molinists I've read from on the idea that one cannot lose salvation.

    • @michaeljennings8221
      @michaeljennings8221 2 роки тому

      ^new

    • @barelyprotestant5365
      @barelyprotestant5365  2 роки тому +1

      Definitely. Even Calvin believes that Christians could forfeit their salvation.

    • @michaeljennings8221
      @michaeljennings8221 2 роки тому

      @@barelyprotestant5365 Interesting. But I thought that Calvinism teaches that a Christian cannot forfeit salvation, since the "perseverance of the saints" is one of the 5 points of Calvinism. So do the 5 points of Calvinism contradict what Calvin himself taught?

    • @barelyprotestant5365
      @barelyprotestant5365  2 роки тому +2

      @@michaeljennings8221 the "five points of Calvinism" don't actually come from Calvin. Calvin, like St Augustine, made a distinction between the elect and those regenerate. There are people who are truly regenerate, who will not persevere to the end.

    • @michaeljennings8221
      @michaeljennings8221 2 роки тому +2

      @@barelyprotestant5365 haha so apparently I agree more with Calvin than Calvinism. In my humble opinion Hebrews 6 is clear enough.

  • @DillonJan
    @DillonJan 4 роки тому +1

    Can we hold a molinistic view while being an Anglican or do Anglican has a specific view on Divine foreknowledge?

    • @barelyprotestant5365
      @barelyprotestant5365  4 роки тому +4

      I am a Molinist. I think Molinism is the best, most appropriate view for Anglicanism; it fits best with our Formularies (our Confessional standards).

    • @DillonJan
      @DillonJan 4 роки тому

      @@barelyprotestant5365 awesome! Thanks for the response. Any plan on making video regarding justification?

    • @barelyprotestant5365
      @barelyprotestant5365  4 роки тому +1

      @@DillonJan it's not any time soon; if I do, I want to do it with a friend of mine from seminary.

    • @Adam-ue2ig
      @Adam-ue2ig 2 роки тому

      Are you still a molinist?

    • @puremercury
      @puremercury Рік тому

      @@barelyprotestant5365 How do you feel about Classical Arminianism + Molinism?

  • @stick2truth
    @stick2truth 4 роки тому +3

    You could have called me before you recorded this.

  • @koyo3376
    @koyo3376 Рік тому

    Can an Arminian (an actual Arminian not just a non-Calvinist) hold to the Articles, the Prayer Book, and the Homilies? I'm an Arminian and I'm very drawn to Anglicanism but I can't accept absolute predestination in a "Calvinist" sense. Thanks!

    • @barelyprotestant5365
      @barelyprotestant5365  Рік тому +1

      As far as I know, yes. I would be closer to Arminianism (classically understood) than I would be to Calvinism (again, classically understood).

    • @koyo3376
      @koyo3376 Рік тому

      @@barelyprotestant5365 Thank you for the reply. I have been told that there is no room for Arminians in the confessional Anglican tent.

    • @barelyprotestant5365
      @barelyprotestant5365  Рік тому +1

      @@koyo3376 whoever told you that is wrong. It might be the case that they have an understanding of Arminianism that is more akin to Baptists and their pelagian leanings.

    • @koyo3376
      @koyo3376 Рік тому +1

      @@barelyprotestant5365 I'm not sure. Thanks for the reply, Father James and God bless you.

  • @jimmyboi979
    @jimmyboi979 2 роки тому +1

    This is not the reformed Anglican view.

    • @barelyprotestant5365
      @barelyprotestant5365  2 роки тому +5

      Where do I contradict the Articles, the Prayer Book, or the Homilies?