As a mediocre BB captain, I love the sound of other wailing BB captains; salty cry babies make for easier targets once they spit their dummies out of their dingies.
Akagi and Kaga both look extremely top heavy but they were built on battlecruiser and battleship hulls so those carriers can operate in the waters while Hiryu or Shokaku have a lower profile because they were actually built as carriers keel up. If you look at Lexington, she is similar to Kaga except it is less obvious since her hull armor goes up to the flight deck while Kaga doesn't and only have a complicated looking superstructure which gives the impression of top heavy.
I was using my Saipan and i cam across a Kaga at one point using the 1:1:3 (i was fighter heavy with the captain skill Air superiority) and at one point he had all three bomber groups grouped up and sent them for a bombing run on out Colorado... Using the shift key as i did i managed to destroy all of them... best feeling in the world
As the Pensacola player on the enemy team I didn't even have an AA build yet on that ship (which was still base everything just bought her) and I still tore those dive bombers to bits. Anyone running a complete AA build shouldn't have any trouble dealing with planes from this ship i'd think.
What did the guy from WG say when you asked him about this ship? I gotta say this makes me pretty angry. I've been pushing my way up the USN CV line and doing damage with their 111 setup takes a lot of work/luck. To do the kind of damage you see in this video one need to find an isolated BB with lots of health and weak AA, control the skies for several minutes and keep one's planes above him while not losing too many that you run out of reserves, hope that you get more than one fire so he is forced to put it out, and then pray that you get enough flooding to justify it all*. And all that already became harder at higher tiers when even with good flooding you rarely kill ships, and when you need to learn to wrestle control of the skies away from the Saipan for long enough to make those drops. By contrast, to do the same damage with the kaga, just fly over your torp bombers and drop 'em. And it even takes less time, so you can do it more often in a battle and at longer ranges, reducing the risk of your ship being spotted. Seeing this ship do basically my all time damage record with only moderately good MM and a bit of a potato enemy CV makes me feel like a total chump for even bothering to grind the CV line. *note: before someone tells me to do 013 setup for damage, I generally don't believe a CV should leave their team without any fighter protection whatsoever like that.
kalamaron i Such is life in this game, sadly. Kutuzov, Belfast, Saipan, Kaga. Wargaming seem to see premiums as stronger than normal tech tree ships, not different.
Didn't they say they will not release Kaga and other premium CV's until CV gameplay is fixed? So was that tiny mouse control fix their glorious gameplay fix to CV's?
Henshel well I guess so. don't get my wrong it is nice to get out of a fight but unless sipan I lose a plane to do it. so again why? every IJN cv is open every single one. They are giving 12 tarps per flight with Kaka and about 4 full reloads of planes. if they want to do this then have 2 reloads of planes on her deck and that's it. Watching chase launch tarps from outside a a bubble and still deleting that bb was insane. I have a sipan and I still loss a fair amount of the time to IJN because of the amount of Sq in there flight package, I have 2 fighters to there 6 Sq and Ranger forget it. I want wg to give me my time back for running up the USA line when it is the worst and pointless line in thegamee.
It reminds me of the good old Lexington in alpha and CBT, that had a 1-2-1 configuration, with the usual 6 US Torpedo bombers formation. It was a monster, capable of one shotting anything in its path, and is the reason why you don't have 2 TB anymore when you have a fighter. Now... IT RESURRECTED!! HAHAHA!!!
Then it will be completely broke ....that is how they try to keep balance if there is any .... Back in the day when Essex was top tier T8 CV yes I was not even touching my Japanese CV .If my memory does not betray me there were 2 fighter 2 torp bombers and you generally do not see any enemy CV and you were just deleting everything.Some very high damage and high win rate accounts should thank to T8 Essex :D
forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/127215-carriers-remastered-make-usn-cvs-not-suck-ijn-cvs-not-broken/ *Correct, OP. (both post and ship, lel) Should be fixed.* _Being shit to play is not a valid "National Distinction."_
ItsTime2Battle unfortunately I faced this versus a rank 1 unicum air superiority Saipan with 3 fighters. As a unicum cv aswell, I managed 70k DMG compared to my average 140k in the kaga (same as my Taiho AVG). With my 10 T6 fighters versus his 12 T9 fighters. I ended with 19 plane kills (all fighters) out of his 30ish reserve. It was cancer to play against
Ah i see, well i did go against an AS ranger and AS Independence in my 221 kaga with a strike indipendence on my team. It ended with me not dealing too much damage but i managed 60 plane kills whilst losing only 6 fighters and losing no bombers to fighters. Only a measly 100k damage that game
Andrew Wong I'm a experienced Saipan player with a high point captain and I just obliterate enemy Kaga planes every match. I like how Saipan can get air superiority while also being able to attack ships.
Saipan>Kaga if both players are even. Every time there is no doubt. However a very good CV captain like myself can make the fighters work even in extreme situations like the kaga vs saipan fighter duels. However it is impossible for the kaga to win unless you are in friendly AA. And thats why so many people hate the saipan. It is the most broken CV since the AA at T7 just isnt good enough to deal with saipan planes except the gneisnau but thats only AA spec.
Hey, iChase. Can you do review on Iowa/Montana with citadel deck armor - 16mm and what it means? Lowered citadel sounds great, but citadel deck armor went from 156...ish mm? to 16mm. What does this mean?
Honestly, I haven't been having many problems fighting kagas. I must admit, the first time I fought one, I got headshot, but once I knew about that, I've been wiping the floor with them in my Ranger. Two fighter squadrons with 7 fighters each will absolutely crush anything a kaga can toss around. I've been getting clear skies every time I fight a kaga.
So lets say I'm on a budget and could only buy one premium CV. I love CVs, in game name is Tembin, and I do extremely well in them. Would you buy the Kaga, the Saipan, or hold out for the Enterprise?
I think a good way to improve CV gameplay would be to increase the range before torpedoes become active when they hit the water. You could have a lot of torpedo bombers, but have a higher chance of missing, but if your skilled enough, you'll do a lot of damage still.
Ichase with the new update CV's have really change if you have the time please give your opinion about the CV's as they r todate. Kaga mechanics have changed as well
Langley has more fighters, hosho fighters will win any battle if you lost any of Langley fighters and both captains are equal. I seal club with hosho. aa is shitty. Langley aint going anywhere fast. you get more planes in a squadron but you cnt hammer drop in Langley.
I agree, the strafe to disengage is really stupid not only for saipan but also for ranger, because u have 7 fighters and losing one to save them or to kill other planes is a great trade, like for example i tried to tie down ranger fighters so my strike can get through, he strafes and kill s most my planes
ah so just had the two backwards akagi used parts from amagi after the great kanto earthquake. though on the us side carriers saratoga and lexington were converted Battlecruisers
I don't know if it would make for a good video, but I would like to see some ways how to avoid air tops, how to know when the planes have already fired and when are they just flying around and circling you. I would surely appreciate some new vids for the academy :-D
Always turn inwards. DDs can often short fuse the torps, CAs ensure that they do not oversteer, and BBs take just one or two torps instead of all of them (if a ship turns away it means that the torps at the back hit *before* the torps at the front, and if the ship is moving forwards this actually means that it presents a bigger target than if the torps were hitting at a 90 degree angle).
well that is all nice, but my personal problem is to know, when the torpedo bombers have already fired... because you can start turning right as you see them (and lose speed that way) but the carrier can move them away at any time, so you are just turning on the spot, bleeding speed and after that , he can come from completely different side. If only the planes took longer to turn, so that you wouldnt be able to circle the ship so easily or if the point of no return for planes was a little bit bigger circle, so that you would have to send them to shoot the torps earlier and couldnt change last seconds. Moreover, I had a situation, where the enemy bombers fired their torps and didnt even turn back, so there was no indication and they flew over my head, letting me think, that there are no torps in the water. At least that was my impression, but I was wrong.
It matters less than you think. Always be turning towards where ever the torp bombers are. Even ships with weak AA can take out several planes if they are criss-crossing right above the ship, so if the CV decides to reposition his bombers that only gives you more time to shoot them down. The speed also doesn't really matter. Once the bombers have committed it is almost an advantage to be standing still.
Thank you, I will follow your advice, but still, I think a video about dodging shells and torpedoes and the preventive actions would be a help for me and other newer players
On the Kaga, you get 6 torpedo bombers per squadron. They launch 3 torps in a wider spread and 3 in a narrower spread a little further back. In my experience (I might not be correct), when you lose bombers before dropping you'll lose the rear, narrow "droppers" first (like you have 4 bombers remaining when you drop, you'll launch 3 in a wide spread and then one a little behind).
Amazing even though I play on the Xbox version and don’t have many carriers once I research Kurfürst I’m gonna research Kaga so I can dominate the seas as the beast she was and still is
Yay! Teamwork is relevant again. Better get ur engineering crews to work airfield drivers because friendly as is now precious to you.BTW ichase with WG introducing more 1950 designs, do you think giving u.s carriers angled decks for simultaneous launch and recovery an ideal buff?
I enjoyed the video! But I have some suggestions. I think the Kaga, personally, basically outclasses and outperforms all carriers at her tier EXCEPT for Saipan. Ranger barely stands a chance 1-1-1, not a chance 0-1-3, and maybe a better chance 2-2-0. But with the new strafing mechanics, you can easily shoot down all enemy planes. Currently, the meta favors IJN CVs and Saipan over USN CVs. It's not hard to play USN CVs, it's just that you often do much in a game except lose a ton of your planes (or all of them) and maybe once in a while you'll be in a tier 5 match. Can you please do a video on AA and the current CV balance? Thanks :)
i have the kaga, yes against saipan it's a pain.. even if he is a slight noob, still gonna cause a lot of plane loss.. against a unicum saipan i even didn't manage a single torp drop... but on a good day.. welp... it is very good
conan7real how many Unicoi players are there? I love things that are different and make you think but this thing inoperable of options. USA cv are completely pointless in this game. Enterprise one of 3 most famous ships in the world is going to suck if there load out stays. they will have 2 reloads of tarps and that is it. why not give Kaga two reloads of planes so they have think before launching as it is right now they could lose every plane per strike answer still be fine. I think cv is the hardest and most fun but they are sacking the fun out for sure....
Jerry Glaze that's the thing, the number of unicum players aren't that much, but meeting with saipan is a pain. a tier 9 vs a tier 6 does make a difference. it's almost makes planes on kaga obsolete if the saipan commander knows even the slightest thing to do.. I rarely am able to perform well against a saipan cv player..
I just went up against a kaga in my saipan. He got 1 torp off all game (not 1 salvo, 1 torp) and I shot down over 60 of his planes. So Kaga is certainly not OP if the enemy cv has a clue what he's doing.
Usually always dogshit with CVs, namely Shokaku (still relatively stock), however after watching this gameplay and his tactics, immediately jumped back in and won a fairly good game against an upgraded Lexington. Lex player may have been a bit potato tho, he neglected his fighters heavily, but i still felt i made a contribution for once in my Jap Carrier. Thx Chase! XD
Dude.. let them keep the 12 torps... This world of battleships game has gotten quite stale. More than 3/4th of the battles I've been in for the past half year have been battleship lemming trains towards one half of the map. If a Kaga with 12 torps can fuck things up and force a different style of combat I'm all for it! This is coming from a DD player who will have a harder time against this ship.
1/1/3 might not be a bad idea for dealing with matches that have large numbers of light cruisers and destroyers like the kind you tend to see in Ranked (well, if the meta wasn't infested with smoke and radar/AA ships). I'm disappointed that WG kept the nerfed bombs on the 1/1/3 loadout and were fine with just letting it be that way to balance out the 2/2/1 loadout instead of trying to make both equally-viable like they did with Saipan (granted, in a different way - one is sky cancer, the other is crossdrop cancer).
Struggle with Saipan ? I think you were being kind :D 66 of Kaga planes butchered by my Saipan next match it was 59 then I didnt see any Kaga .12 torpedo bombers means 12 kills :D and more clear sky achievements. I have no idea what they were thinking while releasing this ship! You will simply pray not to see any US CV while playing with this.
Still don't understand WTF WG did to dive bombers... When dive bombers pretty much did most of the ship killing work during the War in the Pacific. Though yes, that's in part because one side had torpedoes that didn't work so the US navy really just didn't bother much with torpedo bombers.
Oh my lord, that initial fighter duel was painful to watch. Missed a perfect strafing chance right at the beginning, then strafed his own aircraft (without trying to disengage ... which the Ranger actually did so you lost two aircraft where the enemy CV only lost one sacrifice for the disengage) ... why didn't you just tag him with both your fighters? That would've been the way more economic solution. Seriously, this became cringeworthy territory when you started calling the enemy CV a potato when you were pulling that stunt with what could've been such an easy air duel win with much fewer aircraft casualties ... And then you strafed the enemy divebombers and killed both of the Hipper's catapult fighters for a single aircraft kill ... again, simply tagging the squadron with an auto-attack would've gotten you the same result without wasting your allies' catapult fighters ... And now you just threw away a large portion of your aircraft because you just let them auto-return directly over the AA of a Kutuzov (plus a Bismarck). Kaga has plenty reserves, but why sacrifice your aircraft needlessly when all you have to do is manually set waypoints that don't end up with your aircraft flying back directly over AA monsters like a Kutuzov? I better just stop watching here and wait for an impression from someone with a bit more experience in CV gameplay. Sorry iChase, but I don't think you have much right to be deriding others when you're delivering such poor gameplay in the background. P.S.: When adressing the ship's features in port you might've wanted to actively point out that with the Kaga's faster torpedoes, you actually need to drop a significantly greater distance away from your target to allow the torpedoes to arm before impact rather than just cite it as a perk to avoid close range AA (the two aren't exactly the same). That and the unique drop pattern on the torpedo bombers.
It was as if millions of battleship drivers cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced...
*billions
face it maybe thousands of players in general.
As a mediocre BB captain, I love the sound of other wailing BB captains; salty cry babies make for easier targets once they spit their dummies out of their dingies.
Sometimes I go back to this vid, melancholy browsing through memories. I miss the old Kaga... and the old times...
well, time to pull out the Atlanta again
I was thinking 3-0-1 Saipan
2-2-0 Saipan with AS and fighter ammo upgrades will eat a kaga's planes still
*Slowly pulls out Air superiority Hiryu With fighter spec captain to help kaga* :P
*the year is 2020 and the Atlanta is no longer a viable AA platform*
Lol turn on subtitles on 3:02
They are useless.
harryirhamni same hitting power as a cock :D
Best part is right before that: 1250 torpedoes in the water... :-)
the Japanese carriers look super top heavy. I'm suprised they didnt capsized alot
Lyle Kirsch they did have stability issues, especially the ryujo
Akagi and Kaga both look extremely top heavy but they were built on battlecruiser and battleship hulls so those carriers can operate in the waters while Hiryu or Shokaku have a lower profile because they were actually built as carriers keel up. If you look at Lexington, she is similar to Kaga except it is less obvious since her hull armor goes up to the flight deck while Kaga doesn't and only have a complicated looking superstructure which gives the impression of top heavy.
I was using my Saipan and i cam across a Kaga at one point using the 1:1:3 (i was fighter heavy with the captain skill Air superiority) and at one point he had all three bomber groups grouped up and sent them for a bombing run on out Colorado... Using the shift key as i did i managed to destroy all of them... best feeling in the world
As the Pensacola player on the enemy team I didn't even have an AA build yet on that ship (which was still base everything just bought her) and I still tore those dive bombers to bits. Anyone running a complete AA build shouldn't have any trouble dealing with planes from this ship i'd think.
Can we go back to this style of CV game play? Or even back in CBT with all strike package carriers
What did the guy from WG say when you asked him about this ship?
I gotta say this makes me pretty angry. I've been pushing my way up the USN CV line and doing damage with their 111 setup takes a lot of work/luck.
To do the kind of damage you see in this video one need to find an isolated BB with lots of health and weak AA, control the skies for several minutes and keep one's planes above him while not losing too many that you run out of reserves, hope that you get more than one fire so he is forced to put it out, and then pray that you get enough flooding to justify it all*. And all that already became harder at higher tiers when even with good flooding you rarely kill ships, and when you need to learn to wrestle control of the skies away from the Saipan for long enough to make those drops. By contrast, to do the same damage with the kaga, just fly over your torp bombers and drop 'em. And it even takes less time, so you can do it more often in a battle and at longer ranges, reducing the risk of your ship being spotted.
Seeing this ship do basically my all time damage record with only moderately good MM and a bit of a potato enemy CV makes me feel like a total chump for even bothering to grind the CV line.
*note: before someone tells me to do 013 setup for damage, I generally don't believe a CV should leave their team without any fighter protection whatsoever like that.
kalamaron i Such is life in this game, sadly. Kutuzov, Belfast, Saipan, Kaga. Wargaming seem to see premiums as stronger than normal tech tree ships, not different.
kalamaron i you have said it all. makes me so angry that they even have us as a career options. and enterprise will be a normal cv.
Didn't they say they will not release Kaga and other premium CV's until CV gameplay is fixed? So was that tiny mouse control fix their glorious gameplay fix to CV's?
Henshel well I guess so. don't get my wrong it is nice to get out of a fight but unless sipan I lose a plane to do it. so again why? every IJN cv is open every single one. They are giving 12 tarps per flight with Kaka and about 4 full reloads of planes. if they want to do this then have 2 reloads of planes on her deck and that's it. Watching chase launch tarps from outside a a bubble and still deleting that bb was insane. I have a sipan and I still loss a fair amount of the time to IJN because of the amount of Sq in there flight package, I have 2 fighters to there 6 Sq and Ranger forget it. I want wg to give me my time back for running up the USA line when it is the worst and pointless line in thegamee.
Yes.
Someone had a Q&A with a WG developer and they had mentioned that their agenda for CVs is done. Forgot the source though so sadly I can't link.
Kaga Secondary build for 200mm secondary guns
Gotta go in for those Citadels with 200mm secondaries.
It reminds me of the good old Lexington in alpha and CBT, that had a 1-2-1 configuration, with the usual 6 US Torpedo bombers formation.
It was a monster, capable of one shotting anything in its path, and is the reason why you don't have 2 TB anymore when you have a fighter.
Now... IT RESURRECTED!! HAHAHA!!!
I've been playing my Atlanta since this got released, been so much fun.
GenSphinx Ad Victoriam brother :D good luck on the high seas with your Atlanta :D
Chase why did you send your dive bombers at a group of 2 AA cruisers and a scharnhorst? That was destined to end badly. (@ 11:10 )
*Slow clap's for WarGaming's Development Team*
"if they know what they're doing you're gonna have a hard time" is true for every player match up in this game....
"this enemy is a bit of a potato" > strafes every single friendly plane in the sky
AT 10:17, he drops torpedoes and the torpedoes come together instead of spreading apart. How do you do that?
Still no torpedo bomber for USN CV unless you go for full strike. Sad :(
Then it will be completely broke ....that is how they try to keep balance if there is any .... Back in the day when Essex was top tier T8 CV yes I was not even touching my Japanese CV .If my memory does not betray me there were 2 fighter 2 torp bombers and you generally do not see any enemy CV and you were just deleting everything.Some very high damage and high win rate accounts should thank to T8 Essex :D
You're wrong, Essex was a T9. You had a Stock 2 Fighters 1 torp and 1 bomber and you had the Strike 0/2/3. Midway had 2/1/2 and 1/2/3 I guess.
forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/127215-carriers-remastered-make-usn-cvs-not-suck-ijn-cvs-not-broken/
*Correct, OP. (both post and ship, lel) Should be fixed.*
_Being shit to play is not a valid "National Distinction."_
what's with that citadel? I mean, I know that's where the engine room is, but half of this ship is filled with various explosive ordinance....
WHEN DOES SHE GO ON SALE IN NA!!! I NEED HER!
today
Well time to go full fighter loadouts just to troll Kaga CV players and learning manual strafes.
i want this. Such a shame i cant play CVs for shit
Egil Saerman i feel ya. i want to play cv but i would ruin my teams lifes. 😂
Even someone with only T4 experience would do well with this ship mate
Egil Saerman hey man not gonna get any better wothout trying
I'm playing mine in Co-Op until the CV rework comes along
the most boring ship to play is CV. I don't even waste my time on them.
Imagine seeing this AND Saipan (w/ cancer build) on one team…
ItsTime2Battle unfortunately I faced this versus a rank 1 unicum air superiority Saipan with 3 fighters. As a unicum cv aswell, I managed 70k DMG compared to my average 140k in the kaga (same as my Taiho AVG). With my 10 T6 fighters versus his 12 T9 fighters. I ended with 19 plane kills (all fighters) out of his 30ish reserve. It was cancer to play against
Andrew Wong I was thinking about facing both of these CVs at once (match with 2 CVs per team).
But at least you did ok out of that Saipan encounter
Ah i see, well i did go against an AS ranger and AS Independence in my 221 kaga with a strike indipendence on my team. It ended with me not dealing too much damage but i managed 60 plane kills whilst losing only 6 fighters and losing no bombers to fighters. Only a measly 100k damage that game
Andrew Wong I'm a experienced Saipan player with a high point captain and I just obliterate enemy Kaga planes every match. I like how Saipan can get air superiority while also being able to attack ships.
Saipan>Kaga if both players are even. Every time there is no doubt. However a very good CV captain like myself can make the fighters work even in extreme situations like the kaga vs saipan fighter duels. However it is impossible for the kaga to win unless you are in friendly AA. And thats why so many people hate the saipan. It is the most broken CV since the AA at T7 just isnt good enough to deal with saipan planes except the gneisnau but thats only AA spec.
really really love your videos....subscribed to your channel. just starting to learn CVs in wow.....great helpful videos. keep up the great work.
How do you know when you've disabled a whole bunch of enemy AA mounts? How do you know if they're disabled permanently or if they are repairable?
Could you perhaps do a guide on how to play french cruisers?
Hey, iChase. Can you do review on Iowa/Montana with citadel deck armor - 16mm and what it means? Lowered citadel sounds great, but citadel deck armor went from 156...ish mm? to 16mm. What does this mean?
I accidentaly used the other configuration, should I be afraid?
Honestly, I haven't been having many problems fighting kagas. I must admit, the first time I fought one, I got headshot, but once I knew about that, I've been wiping the floor with them in my Ranger. Two fighter squadrons with 7 fighters each will absolutely crush anything a kaga can toss around. I've been getting clear skies every time I fight a kaga.
I'm new to this and I was wondering how do you turn alternative battle interface on permanently
The torpedo bombers are not a problem Shokaku stock has also tier 6 torpedo bombers. I always CV sniped with the Hiryu was my favorite thing.
You said it was released? I don't see it anywhere on the official premium store (for NA) or in the in game shop. Did wargaming just pull a SU-76i?
Smooticus It was in the shop a few weeks ago, you must've missed it :(
Yea the Midway cant have 1/2/2 cause too many totps... So lets give that amount of torps to a premium...
Torpedoes are needed to balence batelship
oh men, now, Midway comeback with mod 2-2-2 =)) Fucking OP =))
So lets say I'm on a budget and could only buy one premium CV. I love CVs, in game name is Tembin, and I do extremely well in them.
Would you buy the Kaga, the Saipan, or hold out for the Enterprise?
I think a good way to improve CV gameplay would be to increase the range before torpedoes become active when they hit the water. You could have a lot of torpedo bombers, but have a higher chance of missing, but if your skilled enough, you'll do a lot of damage still.
Wish she'd hurry up and come out on NA - she's out in SEA but nowhere else yet, I believe
Ichase with the new update CV's have really change if you have the time please give your opinion about the CV's as they r todate. Kaga mechanics have changed as well
Hey iChase, i want your opinion on early tiers of carriers, specifically tier 4
Langley has more fighters, hosho fighters will win any battle if you lost any of Langley fighters and both captains are equal. I seal club with hosho. aa is shitty. Langley aint going anywhere fast. you get more planes in a squadron but you cnt hammer drop in Langley.
I agree, the strafe to disengage is really stupid not only for saipan but also for ranger, because u have 7 fighters and losing one to save them or to kill other planes is a great trade, like for example i tried to tie down ranger fighters so my strike can get through, he strafes and kill s most my planes
Just graduated high school. Thanks for the video Chase!
interesting that she has some citadel armour, but makes scenes she is built on a battle cruiser hull.
ah so just had the two backwards akagi used parts from amagi after the great kanto earthquake. though on the us side carriers saratoga and lexington were converted Battlecruisers
the Kaga was one of the carriers that attacked pearl Harbor
You know why they call Kaga a carrier?
Because she carries!
I don't know if it would make for a good video, but I would like to see some ways how to avoid air tops, how to know when the planes have already fired and when are they just flying around and circling you. I would surely appreciate some new vids for the academy :-D
Its as easy a read as seeing a BBs turrets aimed in your direction
Always turn inwards. DDs can often short fuse the torps, CAs ensure that they do not oversteer, and BBs take just one or two torps instead of all of them (if a ship turns away it means that the torps at the back hit *before* the torps at the front, and if the ship is moving forwards this actually means that it presents a bigger target than if the torps were hitting at a 90 degree angle).
well that is all nice, but my personal problem is to know, when the torpedo bombers have already fired... because you can start turning right as you see them (and lose speed that way) but the carrier can move them away at any time, so you are just turning on the spot, bleeding speed and after that , he can come from completely different side. If only the planes took longer to turn, so that you wouldnt be able to circle the ship so easily or if the point of no return for planes was a little bit bigger circle, so that you would have to send them to shoot the torps earlier and couldnt change last seconds.
Moreover, I had a situation, where the enemy bombers fired their torps and didnt even turn back, so there was no indication and they flew over my head, letting me think, that there are no torps in the water. At least that was my impression, but I was wrong.
It matters less than you think. Always be turning towards where ever the torp bombers are. Even ships with weak AA can take out several planes if they are criss-crossing right above the ship, so if the CV decides to reposition his bombers that only gives you more time to shoot them down. The speed also doesn't really matter. Once the bombers have committed it is almost an advantage to be standing still.
Thank you, I will follow your advice, but still, I think a video about dodging shells and torpedoes and the preventive actions would be a help for me and other newer players
Wait did he say kaga is released,?
Any idea when this will be released?
you serious ? it's already released.
I didn't see it for sale in the premium shop. Otherwise I wouldn't ask
worldofwarships.eu/en/news/premshop/plane-sailin/ ???
shes not out for NA yet tho..
in ww2 kaga's pilots are all ace so why did they nerf it in the game i mean its only 6 tier planes sorry for my bad english
That's an evil little laugh Chase..lol...finish I had the confidence to play CVs. Thanks well done.
When is this ship going to be released? Anyone know?
Should be out now. If not, at least by June 6 (AKA anniversary of Midway).
Did you say Kaca?
I wonder if giving CVs a strike range will make the gameplay more interesting?
I think I will play my Atlanta a bit more in the near future.
I love strafing with my Saipan fighters in Kaga bombers!
With Kaga I once again play CV since she makes me feel much much better than any CV before lol
wait is kaga on the shop yet?
you don't know the official site of world of warships ?
FRIED NEKO i checked but it doesn't there
what region ?
looks like a good ship but, did you stagger your drops?
No, Kaga's torp drops are designed like that
On the Kaga, you get 6 torpedo bombers per squadron. They launch 3 torps in a wider spread and 3 in a narrower spread a little further back. In my experience (I might not be correct), when you lose bombers before dropping you'll lose the rear, narrow "droppers" first (like you have 4 bombers remaining when you drop, you'll launch 3 in a wide spread and then one a little behind).
The next time Saipan is on sale, it'll be the best record sale for WG.
again, good content chase! keep it up!
hmmm how much again?
Amazing even though I play on the Xbox version and don’t have many carriers once I research Kurfürst I’m gonna research Kaga so I can dominate the seas as the beast she was and still is
Yay! Teamwork is relevant again. Better get ur engineering crews to work airfield drivers because friendly as is now precious to you.BTW ichase with WG introducing more 1950 designs, do you think giving u.s carriers angled decks for simultaneous launch and recovery an ideal buff?
I enjoyed the video! But I have some suggestions. I think the Kaga, personally, basically outclasses and outperforms all carriers at her tier EXCEPT for Saipan. Ranger barely stands a chance 1-1-1, not a chance 0-1-3, and maybe a better chance 2-2-0. But with the new strafing mechanics, you can easily shoot down all enemy planes. Currently, the meta favors IJN CVs and Saipan over USN CVs. It's not hard to play USN CVs, it's just that you often do much in a game except lose a ton of your planes (or all of them) and maybe once in a while you'll be in a tier 5 match. Can you please do a video on AA and the current CV balance? Thanks :)
Oh, and almost everything is an AA threat and ranger is not a pain in the neck.
Also, I recommend you moving your planes around the enemy ships when returning to avoid less casualties.
Sorry, I might sound a bit rude :( I do enjoy this video though and your comments are pretty logical and true.
Secondary is really good against nearly dead destroyers chasing you.
I was on that enemy team...that Bismark at the end just gave up on life :P
intro music?
Carrier sniping? isnt that what the Battle of Midway was?
i have the kaga, yes against saipan it's a pain.. even if he is a slight noob, still gonna cause a lot of plane loss.. against a unicum saipan i even didn't manage a single torp drop... but on a good day.. welp... it is very good
conan7real how many Unicoi players are there? I love things that are different and make you think but this thing inoperable of options. USA cv are completely pointless in this game. Enterprise one of 3 most famous ships in the world is going to suck if there load out stays. they will have 2 reloads of tarps and that is it. why not give Kaga two reloads of planes so they have think before launching as it is right now they could lose every plane per strike answer still be fine. I think cv is the hardest and most fun but they are sacking the fun out for sure....
Jerry Glaze that's the thing, the number of unicum players aren't that much, but meeting with saipan is a pain. a tier 9 vs a tier 6 does make a difference. it's almost makes planes on kaga obsolete if the saipan commander knows even the slightest thing to do.. I rarely am able to perform well against a saipan cv player..
awww senpai used the game we played
in a tier VII battle without a saipan in the other team Kaga players be like:''it will be a piece of cake, nothing to worry about''
Kaga is just despicable. If I was competent in CVs I might pick her up.. however, Hood takes priority for now. ^^
Thanks for the informative videos iChase, ..currently this vid's likes are Jumbo Jet '747', with Colt ACP '45' dislikes.
is this EU? bc I don't see Kaga on NA website
MonkTheWorldTree hes a CC on NA. its not released yet, he got it early fpr testing
this is the Chrysler of WOWS
22:37 how do you destory your own teams aircraft?
Strafing.
I just went up against a kaga in my saipan. He got 1 torp off all game (not 1 salvo, 1 torp) and I shot down over 60 of his planes. So Kaga is certainly not OP if the enemy cv has a clue what he's doing.
Ya the main isssue is if he trys to snipe u
KAGA or Saipan?
Saipan
Usually always dogshit with CVs, namely Shokaku (still relatively stock), however after watching this gameplay and his tactics, immediately jumped back in and won a fairly good game against an upgraded Lexington. Lex player may have been a bit potato tho, he neglected his fighters heavily, but i still felt i made a contribution for once in my Jap Carrier. Thx Chase! XD
Thx iChase . I love your vid :)
Dude.. let them keep the 12 torps... This world of battleships game has gotten quite stale. More than 3/4th of the battles I've been in for the past half year have been battleship lemming trains towards one half of the map. If a Kaga with 12 torps can fuck things up and force a different style of combat I'm all for it! This is coming from a DD player who will have a harder time against this ship.
Playing Bismarck, 2 Kara torpedo plane squad, 12 shot down, 0 DMG taken
secondary build 1/1/3 Kaga with IFHE incoming!
These Jazz music keeps getting me, lmao. XD
Kaga was built on a battlecruiser hull.
That's Akagi. Kaga was built on a Tosa class battleship. Hence, she is slower than Akagi ;)
Close enough. Was just trying to point out why her armor is so good.
1/1/3 might not be a bad idea for dealing with matches that have large numbers of light cruisers and destroyers like the kind you tend to see in Ranked (well, if the meta wasn't infested with smoke and radar/AA ships).
I'm disappointed that WG kept the nerfed bombs on the 1/1/3 loadout and were fine with just letting it be that way to balance out the 2/2/1 loadout instead of trying to make both equally-viable like they did with Saipan (granted, in a different way - one is sky cancer, the other is crossdrop cancer).
you should try this on Asia
I want so bad to see a Kaga secondaries battle and a Kiev 1 also!!! Pleeease
Struggle with Saipan ? I think you were being kind :D
66 of Kaga planes butchered by my Saipan next match it was 59 then I didnt see any Kaga .12 torpedo bombers means 12 kills :D and more clear sky achievements.
I have no idea what they were thinking while releasing this ship! You will simply pray not to see any US CV while playing with this.
that laughter hahha :) o got the kaga very poweful ship :)
Shame about the secondaries - I was hoping for the 10x1 8in guns! Those would be epic for chasing off destroyers!
Still don't understand WTF WG did to dive bombers... When dive bombers pretty much did most of the ship killing work during the War in the Pacific. Though yes, that's in part because one side had torpedoes that didn't work so the US navy really just didn't bother much with torpedo bombers.
Oh hey, it's sloth like reflexes! Hi sloth! Hi Ncarolina!
I'm upset you didn't get kraken.
I'm not gonna stop playing WOWS intill I meet a Kaga in my Saipan. hehehehehe
Oh my lord, that initial fighter duel was painful to watch. Missed a perfect strafing chance right at the beginning, then strafed his own aircraft (without trying to disengage ... which the Ranger actually did so you lost two aircraft where the enemy CV only lost one sacrifice for the disengage) ... why didn't you just tag him with both your fighters? That would've been the way more economic solution.
Seriously, this became cringeworthy territory when you started calling the enemy CV a potato when you were pulling that stunt with what could've been such an easy air duel win with much fewer aircraft casualties ...
And then you strafed the enemy divebombers and killed both of the Hipper's catapult fighters for a single aircraft kill ... again, simply tagging the squadron with an auto-attack would've gotten you the same result without wasting your allies' catapult fighters ...
And now you just threw away a large portion of your aircraft because you just let them auto-return directly over the AA of a Kutuzov (plus a Bismarck). Kaga has plenty reserves, but why sacrifice your aircraft needlessly when all you have to do is manually set waypoints that don't end up with your aircraft flying back directly over AA monsters like a Kutuzov?
I better just stop watching here and wait for an impression from someone with a bit more experience in CV gameplay.
Sorry iChase, but I don't think you have much right to be deriding others when you're delivering such poor gameplay in the background.
P.S.:
When adressing the ship's features in port you might've wanted to actively point out that with the Kaga's faster torpedoes, you actually need to drop a significantly greater distance away from your target to allow the torpedoes to arm before impact rather than just cite it as a perk to avoid close range AA (the two aren't exactly the same).
That and the unique drop pattern on the torpedo bombers.
No one cares about your salt-fueled opinion.
I see at least one person cared enough to comment with his own salt-fueled opinion :)
Yeah, I was puzzled by that. But I don't even play cvs *yet*, so who am I to complain?
Same
Yeah, I don't think the Ranger is too potato considering he took out a ton of iChase's fighters and that strafing was horrible.
Wow i hope i don't come across you in a cv on enemy team. Nice review. thx
You pronounced it right wow :D
[Epic voice] Saipan is gonna find you..... and.... murderrrr your planes... [thunder]....uuuu ha ha haha....
Battle stations, derpedoes!
The intro song reminds me of Olive Garden lol
Ship is good but planes is paper armor