Nice demo again! Always loved the 1178, generally drawn to it over most 76 variants. This reminds me why, it has a really compelling grit to it. From about 7:40 is just where I like it.
10 years ago I bought by chance 2 "1178" for a ridiculous 250.- € each. Still own and love them. Only one unit had to see the "Doctor" in all this years. Maybe not your "to go for" compressor/limiter if you like to add it to your master-bus to smooth digital projects up. But it really shines as part of a front-in setup, paired with a nice microphone - nice preamp - 1178. Of course the same when mixing other pre-captured /recorded analog audio. We did some really nice acoustic-guitar, bass guitar and vocal recordings with the UREIs. And of course : there is a reason why still a lot of people love it on the stereo drum-bus. Soundwise : like mentioned before, in my opinion not a "smoothinizer". Vintage "light" with kind of a bite somewhere in the midrange. You can make this unit working kind of invisible or pumping and distorting like crazy. For the age of its design ( late 60ies) still unbelievable ! fast attack for an analog unit.... Prices are crazy though at the moment !!?? Overall : Even if the "1178" is transformer less on the input side a very, very nice unit. Greetings and thx for the video, Phil
Hey Phil, Thanks for watching. I agree with everything you said, and yeah prices have gotten insane on all this stuff. Every year I think it can’t go higher it does. Nice find getting those that cheap!
1178 and 1176 rev H are underrated. They are cleaner and more versatile than rev A or D. A and D go into distortion at extreme settings while 1178 still smacks and pumps nicely. You need both.
@@maxbauhof I have one since a few weeks. Not sure it sounds as 'organic' as your 1178, but it has its usage I guess. I don't have another 1176 type comp to directly compare... I wish you could do a review! :) The HPF on the sidechain is definitely a nice addition.
@@maxbauhof Doesn't seem to do much difference in my setup... I always toggle it in/out to try. For some usage I prefer without (snare drums), seems faster/punchier. I didn't take the time to fully analyse it yet. I just plug it and mess with everything until I feel good about the tone. It is not a subtle comp, for sure...
Interesting, I definitely start to hear more a difference in all buttons mode or at higher gain reduction. In terms of just tone I feel like there’s a little less low mid on the purple compared to the 1178.
@@maxbauhof yes that's where i noticed it! when you did all buttons on the MC77 it almost became like a distortion box cuz the release was sooo fast. on the 1178 it was a bit more gentler but not tube-like though still pretty fast. yeah way clearer low mids too on the purp!! 1178 is much colored. probably the transformers?
@@blashuvec Could be yeah, the 1178 has utilizes op amps and a transformer on the output where as the purple has an input and output transformer and doesn’t use op amps.
Thanks for watching! Did some 1176 research the last couple days and concluded the older 1176 revs are made up of transistor and two FETs. The later ones (Rev H, G, 1178) went to an op-amp input and changed the output amplifier. Also read they use an op amp to drive the gain reduction. Someone outlined the detector circuit is pretty much the same for all 1176 revs but the transistors did change and there are slight circuit changes that happened as well. The 1178 is not fully discrete like it’s predecessors. Someone correct me if any of this is wrong ✌️
Isn’t it amazing that a thing hitting a thing can sound so good
Hah, right?
My favorite UA-cam gear channel. No bullshit just to the point
That’s my goal!
Nice demo again! Always loved the 1178, generally drawn to it over most 76 variants. This reminds me why, it has a really compelling grit to it. From about 7:40 is just where I like it.
It’s great! Rev H and 1178s keep going up but if your buying vintage they are the only ones semi obtainable still price wise. Thanks for watching
10 years ago I bought by chance 2 "1178" for a ridiculous 250.- € each. Still own and love them. Only one unit had to see the "Doctor" in all this years. Maybe not your "to go for" compressor/limiter if you like to add it to your master-bus to smooth digital projects up. But it really shines as part of a front-in setup, paired with a nice microphone - nice preamp - 1178. Of course the same when mixing other pre-captured /recorded analog audio. We did some really nice acoustic-guitar, bass guitar and vocal recordings with the UREIs. And of course : there is a reason why still a lot of people love it on the stereo drum-bus.
Soundwise : like mentioned before, in my opinion not a "smoothinizer". Vintage "light" with kind of a bite somewhere in the midrange. You can make this unit working kind of invisible or pumping and distorting like crazy. For the age of its design ( late 60ies) still unbelievable ! fast attack for an analog unit.... Prices are crazy though at the moment !!?? Overall : Even if the "1178" is transformer less on the input side a very, very nice unit.
Greetings and thx for the video,
Phil
Hey Phil, Thanks for watching. I agree with everything you said, and yeah prices have gotten insane on all this stuff. Every year I think it can’t go higher it does. Nice find getting those that cheap!
love the purple, It brings the snare out!
Hell yeah, one of the best 1176 reissues imo
1178 and 1176 rev H are underrated. They are cleaner and more versatile than rev A or D. A and D go into distortion at extreme settings while 1178 still smacks and pumps nicely. You need both.
Yeah, especially when you think of the price of an 1178. Two Rev H alone would cost like 6 or 7k.
Something about the way you play makes me reach for my bass.
Hah! I gotta get some demos of here of me doing a simple bass and drum groove. Thanks for watching
Definitely prefer the 1178! The MC77 leaves me uninterested, quite frankly. Did you try the WesAudio Beta76?
No, I hadn’t even heard of that one. Looks like it has some nice options, have you heard it?
@@maxbauhof I have one since a few weeks. Not sure it sounds as 'organic' as your 1178, but it has its usage I guess. I don't have another 1176 type comp to directly compare... I wish you could do a review! :) The HPF on the sidechain is definitely a nice addition.
@@DavidChampoux How do you like the vintage input with the carnhill transformer?
@@maxbauhof Doesn't seem to do much difference in my setup... I always toggle it in/out to try. For some usage I prefer without (snare drums), seems faster/punchier. I didn't take the time to fully analyse it yet. I just plug it and mess with everything until I feel good about the tone. It is not a subtle comp, for sure...
Hey you need to try using Hazelrigg VNE I heard its punchy
Nice, I’ve heard good things too
Can you test it.
@@micahalston8974 I will if I get my hands on one
Did you ever do black face vs Purple 77
to me it seems like the 1178 just has a much slower release than the MC77.
Interesting, I definitely start to hear more a difference in all buttons mode or at higher gain reduction. In terms of just tone I feel like there’s a little less low mid on the purple compared to the 1178.
@@maxbauhof yes that's where i noticed it! when you did all buttons on the MC77 it almost became like a distortion box cuz the release was sooo fast. on the 1178 it was a bit more gentler but not tube-like though still pretty fast. yeah way clearer low mids too on the purp!! 1178 is much colored. probably the transformers?
@@blashuvec Could be yeah, the 1178 has utilizes op amps and a transformer on the output where as the purple has an input and output transformer and doesn’t use op amps.
I prefer the 1178
purple much better
wow, the 1178 gets really groovy when you drive it hard. the purple sounds like it's in a box by comparison. just too bland!
Thanks for watching! Did some 1176 research the last couple days and concluded the older 1176 revs are made up of transistor and two FETs. The later ones (Rev H, G, 1178) went to an op-amp input and changed the output amplifier. Also read they use an op amp to drive the gain reduction. Someone outlined the detector circuit is pretty much the same for all 1176 revs but the transistors did change and there are slight circuit changes that happened as well. The 1178 is not fully discrete like it’s predecessors. Someone correct me if any of this is wrong ✌️
@@maxbauhof i think that's all correct. yeah, the rev h and the 1178 are the bargains of the bunch. well played :)