I am a retired Derby driver. While I was not there to drive the Peaks I had many a conversation with hundreds of old hands who had driven them, and the general consensus was they were the most reliable of all locomotives.
A good example of how perception often differs from statistics. I'm pretty sure the stats disagree that the Peaks were super reliable, certainly the class 46s were not, it is on record that their failure rate contributed to their quite early withdrawal after only about 20 years in service. The 45s were always more reliable than the 46s despite being a bit older, I think this reflects their superior Crompton Parkinson traction motors, and it's plausible that the 45/1s on the MML expresses were more reliable than the 45/0s on account of being better maintained...nevertheless BR conclusively preferred the Class 47 by the 1980s and it's hard to imagine this didn't reflect reliability as well as the size of the class.
thanks for a great film but do have a question the 40 and peek double header was the peek either a named 45 or 46 has if it is a 46 i have a model of the 46 has it is the leicester and deryshire yomery
Proper trains with soul and character. But I had some difficulty in identifying all the locations. Presumably, many of these are on the S &C. Where is the one with the loaded coal wagons? And presumably the 40 was due to a failed Peak. Where is this?
A majority of the passenger train shots are somewhere between Manchester and Leeds, including the shot of the class 40, with some footage at Manchester Victoria. This footage most likely dates from around 1983-85 just after the Peaks were replaced on the St Pancras expresses and moved north to handle Trans Pennine semi-fasts. I don't think Peaks were super common on the S&C by this time on passenger duties, 47s were more normal, so the 2/3 shots of the short passenger train on the S&C were lucky captures....as others say below, the freight footage towards the end is at Appleby and on the Warcop branch.
always pleases me to see older rail footage like this preserved and shared, especially with accompanying audio
AND the Whistler !! Beautiful
Yea, back when the railway still was, just. Some cracking shots there. Managed a couple of 40s too. Great stuff 👍👍👍. Thanks for sharing
Old-style pick-up goods trains with four wheel vans surviving into the BR blue era. Fascinating stuff.
Always great to see the Peaks in action! 🚂👍
I am a retired Derby driver. While I was not there to drive the Peaks I had many a conversation with hundreds of old hands who had driven them, and the general consensus was they were the most reliable of all locomotives.
A good example of how perception often differs from statistics. I'm pretty sure the stats disagree that the Peaks were super reliable, certainly the class 46s were not, it is on record that their failure rate contributed to their quite early withdrawal after only about 20 years in service. The 45s were always more reliable than the 46s despite being a bit older, I think this reflects their superior Crompton Parkinson traction motors, and it's plausible that the 45/1s on the MML expresses were more reliable than the 45/0s on account of being better maintained...nevertheless BR conclusively preferred the Class 47 by the 1980s and it's hard to imagine this didn't reflect reliability as well as the size of the class.
@@kevinfowkes2327verbal dieorrae anyone
That lovely clickety-clack of non-welded rails.
Nice footage on the S&C.
Thanks for posting, great memories!
And the beautiful slam doors. 🙂
Man it is just like Northern Transpennine on Train Sim World, locations that are in fact on the video!
thanks for a great film but do have a question the 40 and peek double header was the peek either a named 45 or 46 has if it is a 46 i have a model of the 46 has it is the leicester and deryshire yomery
@@garethmatthews7939 a Peak is a nickname for a class 44,45,46
@@swearingkevo in my comment i ask if it was a , named 45 or 46
What camera did you use?
Love this!
What is the junction location at 4’.15”?
Proper trains with soul and character. But I had some difficulty in identifying all the locations. Presumably, many of these are on the S &C. Where is the one with the loaded coal wagons? And presumably the 40 was due to a failed Peak. Where is this?
A majority of the passenger train shots are somewhere between Manchester and Leeds, including the shot of the class 40, with some footage at Manchester Victoria. This footage most likely dates from around 1983-85 just after the Peaks were replaced on the St Pancras expresses and moved north to handle Trans Pennine semi-fasts. I don't think Peaks were super common on the S&C by this time on passenger duties, 47s were more normal, so the 2/3 shots of the short passenger train on the S&C were lucky captures....as others say below, the freight footage towards the end is at Appleby and on the Warcop branch.
The loaded coal train is passing Gateshead diesel depot.
Àmazing when we had a railway
This footage belongs to jake Atkinson and there for should be credited to him.
Thx for info, has been credited
Any idea where the place at the end is? Looks like Ferry Van heaven! 😄
Don’t know pal sorry
@@swearingkevo no worries, thanks for getting back to me.
It's the Warcop branch in Cumbria. The Peak was shunting some military supplies.
@@dieseldave3879 thanks for taking the time to answer. Interesting info.
@@KellinoRail This older vid has some interesting comments about the operation: ua-cam.com/video/o2MLAdYHBrY/v-deo.html