So beautifully put for such a deep, deep complex aspect. Jewel, your ability to unearth some of the harshest astrological influences is astounding. You see people.
Here at 555 likes.. my partner of 6 years and I have Scorpio rising composite with Pluto conjunct the ascendant. He is my “twin flame”..I knew this man the moment I met him and our trauma filled lives prior to meeting one another are the same experiences. Very profound relationship. We both have very strong Pluto signatures in our own natal charts as well, and a double whammy of Venus-Pluto hard aspects in synastry.
You really give me goosebumps when I watch your videos. I have this in my composite in Scorpio with Scorpio ascendent and in synastry. I'm plutonic and my boyfriend has moon and Pluto in Scorpio in the 1st house; he's Scorpio rising. It's so true!!! I'm older then him too. I have asked myself that question multiple times about the narcissistic and empath issue, it's that something doesn't feel right feeling. Manipulation is a real big theme with everything! Its constant undercurrents that are not said but felt. Just want you to know that your videos are so educational, intuitive and touching.
I have Sun/Venus opposite Pluto. He has Pluto as the focal point of a T-Square. We have composite Pluto (partile quincunx Mars) on the ascendant. I have said numerous times in this connection that he is a gift. My connection to him has brought up so many things I have needed to work out about myself and I have been able to do that successfully with him. I don’t know that he has really worked much out for himself. We recently got into a discussion in which it was very obvious to me that we just see and do life from completely different perspectives (my Neptune is on his ascendant, his Neptune is on my moon, which is my chart ruler). It feels like an insurmountable obstacle to me. I’m aware that it just might mean that the transformation this relationship was intended to initiate is complete. Or many it’s breaking through to another level in need of transformation.
Had this placement with someone..... super sensual and transformative. Ended VERY badly. He became extremely jealous of my male best friend and scared him into moving away. Then, i moved away too yet we find eachother every once in a while still that same depth and obsession.....
This is so true!!! I was in a relationship with a man twice my age at 21. We were together for 5 years. We were so clingy with each other. Then after it ended we still got together and had sex. He still-after all these years tries to stay in contact with me. There was so much manipulation between us. People around us reacted VERY intensely to us as well. We made people around us immensely uncomfortable. Our breakup was so terrible. Brought out the ugliest in both of us.
@@themoonbleu627 because it had to. It was toxic. But also - the aspects in my chart led me to move on and towards another kind of relationship- that was when transiting Pluto entered my 7th house. The new kind of relationship lasted the duration of my Pluto 7th house transit and it helped me see relationships differently. THAT 7th house relationship ended when Pluto crossed over into the 8th a 2nd time after a short dip back into my 7th. It only ended because my Pluto 7th house partner died - which was a very Pluto 8th house experience for me. The past years since Pluto has been in my 8th it’s been all about letting go. Many deaths of all kinds - felt like a recurrent ripping open. But now I am transformed - COMPLETELY! Who I was even four years ago when I first wrote this initial comment - Is long gone.
we've got composite Pluto conjunct ascendant, Venus square Pluto, moon square Saturn, Sun square Saturn, Venus trine Saturn, Sun opposite Uranus, Venus conjunct MC. We have Sun in the 8th house and moon in the 2nd house. The first week of being together we bought a really nice home and shit has gone crazy since then. The scary part is I want to see how crazier it can get. Jewel you're right.
Amazingly accurate. Had 2 of these relationships and they both had personality disorders. You articulated this so well. Took such a long time to heal from them.
6:30 is so accurate, the passive partner was me. He manipulated me into getting with him and then I manipulated him into staying by being codependent. He had heavy Pluto with some Neptune and I had some strong Pluto Aspects like Pluto conjunct my Asc with Scorpio Psyche with a little heavier Neptune placements. Very Accurate!
Pressure cooker is the right description! Im the empath who went no contact with my partner. He is narcissistic. This relationship is teaching me how to set strong boundaries against toxic people. However, i am instensely attracted to him and have been abstaining from sex for 3 years. It is torturous but i gotta stand my ground.
Thank you for this video! I have this aspect with my GF. It's been quite new and what you say about the beginning of the relationship sounds familiar... Our relationship feels fated, intense and transformative. we are both very plutonic, she has pluto in ascendant and i have pluto conjunct ascendant from 12th house. The composit sun is conjunct to pluto from the 12th house. I hope it is not going to end in a nasty way!
I have this with someone and boy she does make me nervous. I like her so much that I get sick to my stomach when I see her. I just want her to notice me so much!
I have been rewatching this again and again Jewel... *sigh* because my beloved and I have a thick Pluto connection in Composite and Synastry and he is a Pluto-Risng while I am a Scorpio-Rising. This video is the only in-depth analysis of Composite Pluto conjunct Ascendant and we have it in our Composite too, these feelings are shocking indeed that it makes me anxious sometimes and this video/information helped me to understand why so thank you so much for this Jewel! I actually love our thick Pluto connection or I love Pluto energies since I am a Scorpio-Rising.
Hello, I'm also a Scorpio rising, he's pluto in scorpio and mars too.. May I ask what happened bet. You two.. ?.. any advice..?.. or is it doomed to fail..?.. Thanks in advance!
I have this conjunction in my composite chart with my ex. I've known my ex for 30 years now, which says something about the durability of Pluto. In synastry, his Pluto is conjunct my Moon, which is an aspect I have natally, and my south node is conjunct his Sun. He and I met when we were teenagers and married when I was 17 and he was 19, so no age difference. There was a significant difference in our IQs, maturity levels, and mental stability, though, and unfortunately he was lacking in those areas. There was no great sex, soulmate feeling, or passionate attraction at all between us, but the ascendant sign of the chart is in late Virgo. I actually think Virgo enhances the potential for the abuse of power and of inequality in the partnership characterized by Pluto. It was a VERY abusive and chaotic 10-year marriage in every respect- emotional, physical, and financial, with me being the recipient of all of the abuse and his chronic inability to work or accept responsibility. I take responsibility for choosing to be with him, and the damage seeing an abusive relationship had on our two children. He was a psychological composite of both of my parents' worst traits. In the marriage, I constantly demanded he live up to expectations he couldn't meet. I also constantly blamed myself and tried to change myself, thinking it would change him. The only positive to come from this is my personality completely transformed over a very long process. The need to control him or anyone else, or the need to change him or anyone else disappeared. I stopped blaming myself for others' problems and allowing myself to be scapegoated. We actually have a (platonic) stable, cooperative co-parenting relationship for the most part now, but I still have to set boundaries with him at times or he'll try to steal money from me.
I have this with a friend of mine. We have a very close relationship, almost symbiotic, which I don't like at all. We spend our time together discussing our daily problems, so there's a constant complaining about life and other people going on. We often avoid talking about the issues of our relationship until we can't deal with them anymore. We sometimes separate from each other because we can't stand our energies anymore, but eventually come back together. It's a pretty toxic friendship. We both feel it and we both don't want it, but it's been difficult to let it go completely.
thats interesting im wondering for couples who have this aspect if therapy would be a good option since pluto likes to change things if this aspect makes you look at yourself and your issues, im also wondering if the people that are getting into these kinds of relationships are drawing them in as a way to help to help them improve
Something else I notice about this configuration is when you two are together it is VERY triggering for others. I have this with a guy I met at work some 5 yrs ago & we’ve been on & off. We had an affair, he’s now divorced but is engaged again & after a bit of a break we picked up right where we left off. Not only do we have Pluto @ zero degrees in Scorpio conjuncting the ascendant, the chart is also heavily fixed earth/water, with a yod thrown in. We basically agreed to keep seeing each other despite his current situation. It’s fucked up but it’s so hard to walk away from each other. I suspect he’s narcissistic, but we’ve never lived together so I don’t know what he’s really like outside of the time we spend together. We act like addicts & over time it’s like we need another “hit” of each to get thru until the next time we see each other. I honestly wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
I feel lead to say... Someone you love, who's crossed the rainbow bridge, is turning your light off to get your attention! How sweet! Testimony to loves eternal flame!
I had this aspect with my ex girlfriend and man do you know your stuff ms jewel. I mean everything you said literally described that relationship. Extremely intense manipulative passionate but unhealthy for the both of us. Still think about her but I know being with her was dangerous for both of our mental health. We were quite young. Thank you for your work
I have pluto in the 1st house and exactly sextile venus, along with neptune square the ascendant so these pluto themed relationships, and pluto/empath relationships are a bit of a theme in my life. The 5 relationships in my life that have left the greatest impression on me (4 romantic, one friendship although admittedly I did think she was outstandingly cute when I first met her) have pluto conjunct or square the composite ascendant. The one where pluto was square the ascendant, and also square the sun, actually felt the least horrible, at least for me, as we have sun, moon, eros, saturn, venus, mercury conjunct. I also have pluto conjunct the composite ascendant with my mother (control issues galore!). What you said about control issues was spot on.
We have Pluto conjunct ascendant, square Venus, and sextile sun. Scorpio rising, all in composite. Very deep, painful yet short lived relationship, rough break up. We have one child together, we coparent well together now but always have that temptation between us which is hard to ignore sometimes. I often think if we’d work well together now that we’ve had time to heal.
Mine and my bf pluto and land ascending are conjunct but Pluto technically is in the 12th house, Pluto and ascendant are in Scorpio! Pretty cool! I love learning this stuff
Oh and Yes... We had pluto square the MC. Pluto was conjunct Uranus in 1st house. He had a natal out of element grand trine between pluto in 9th in Leo, Mars in Capricorn and sun in Aries. I don't know if that makes him Plutonian. I am a Neptunian with a bit of pluto, I guess? I mean Pluto aspects all of my personal planets except my unaspected moon.
I'm simultaneously triggered & turned on by the guy I'm dating. And I recognize it's toxic and I struggle to release myself but I also just want to be ensnared. And he does just that. It's like he has me on a leash and isn't gonna let me go. Even in sleep when I move he holds me tight (& he sleeps like he's dead). I get the impression there is unnecessary manipulation and that makes me want to break free and run at full speed but never so far that I can't return. The stuff that triggers me are childhood & relationship traumas that he fills the holes of, pushes my defensive boundaries with, and things I desire but don't readily allow myself to receive. We've been talking 4 months and dating 1.5 and it seems like much longer. He's already told me he loves me and is set on marrying me. It's crazy. I know it's crazy and at the same time I also recognize it's something that makes sense & I'd go along with. I know what a narcissistic relationship feels like so I think I recognized the signs early but there's this twistedness of it that it is appealing in a fucked up way
@@k.c7655 in early August he brought up some emotional triggers and got all upset and we had this huge fight that I'm still not sure what it was about... since then we have been fighting every few months. I broke up w him cause I felt like he could care less (on my birthday no less). But then I kept trying to mKe it work or smooth things out cause I realized he's special to me and the weird shit I'm looking for or moreso what I find interesting... And we kept "breaking up". So I eventually was like ok, I just want to be friends w him then, that is what works. And then he's looking at things like we are a couple eventhough he states he doesn't want that and has accused me of doing things to pass him off and that I need to fix my behavior. But it's never about him somehow or his behaviors that I don't like aren't what's wrong. Lately it just feels like he's trying to control me (it's always felt like that in different ways) - control the way I respond to him so he feels better about himself. And I'm just done. I'm checked out. He has substance abuse issues and now he threw this left curve and wants all the affection and attention and only wants to feel good. And doesn't recognize he created the scenario now and simultaneously wants things to change immediately and pushes me away and cokes crawling back. And like wants to treat me like a committed boyfriend without commitment while he continues to use. And I continue to do what I want (like date others w him knowing) and act how my nervous system is gonna act and adjust accordingly to our conversations. But it's like not enough. He adjusts too, but also not in waves. It's just a lot of double standards and I feel like we are on different pages and it's confusing and toxic and I dunno how to stop cause h keeps coming back or I keep allowing or welcoming it. The last 2 days it's been him getting upset cause I'm not showing him affection in public and around my son when in the past he's clearly stated he didn't want a relationship or when I tried to be cozy w him he'd reject it. So my head is spinning and I don't really care at this point if I lose him or not. When I realize I just need to cold turkey his ass.
I would not recommend this kind of relationship. Not for the faint of heart! With my ex, we had Pluto/AC conjunct in composite and Pluto/DC conjunct in Davison. I'm a Scorpio Sun (also with Mars in 8th) and his Scorpio Rising is exactly conjunct my sun at 29 degrees. He also has Moon Square Pluto in natal. We both have Moon Square Uranus in natals. He has three planets in my 7th and conjunct my Cap moon (Cap Sun, Mars, venus). We also had a mutual Vertex/AC conjunction in synastry and Vertex/DC conjunction in composite. Fated? It felt that way. It was very intense (and I loved it) ... but in addition to Pluto, we also had Uranus conjunct Pluto in each composite too. In Davison, Uranus fell in 7th house. In synastry, my Uranus falls in his 11th house. He is 10 yrs older too, as Jewel mentioned age difference. So it was very painful, with the off/on energy ... intense beginning with abrupt painful ending. I'm still dealing with the pain from breakup and have intense love/hate feelings towards him ... meanwhile he is in a relationship with another woman, which happened the day after breaking up (he'd just met her that week). He also has his moon in Gemini in 7th, conjunct his DC. I have my moon in 7th, conjunct DC as well, but it's in the more grounded, less fickle/indecisive, sign of Capricorn. Thanks Jewel for the great videos! I've learned so much.
Funny, I am in a relationship with pluto conjunct ascending around 2 degrees... and one of us is older by 12 years... in our composite we have pluto trine and sextile everything... but we have moon square mars and moon square neptune, moon square venus... I have the pluto square sun theme in my birthchart... And pluto trine moon and jupiter in eighth house... so I am not sure if I am the narcissist or the empath... I think we are both plutonic...
Can you please do a video on composite yods, grand trines, t squares, rectangles, kites, cradles and castles and how the energies play out and well what it all means coz im clueless lol bless you 🙏
i would say it depends on the orb- if you have pluto signatures in your synastry as well, maybe a 12th house conjunction to the ascendant up to 5 or 6° would apply.
This kind of worries me.. I wish someone could help me understand it better in a way that was safe. My friend and I both have pluto on the ascendant plus composite pluto on the ascendant. Both have jupitor moon conjuction in the 12th house both been through really bad negative stuff in life and we are coming together working through it. We are both empathic theres no sexual connection. It does feel transformative but I also feel really down in her presence maybe because we are pulling up stuff, but I feel we are getting somewhere out of addressing our issues. We bounce ideas off each other like two minds coming together to have greater understanding. And whilst astrology seems to have old wisdom it feels too complex to understand. Yet I don't want to just dismiss it. Wise people want to help each other so when it says something bad I want to understand why. Not just told it's bad.
Does having a grand trine of sun, moon, and neptune in the composite chart, mitigate having scorpio pluto right on the composite ascendant? Also Jupiter in the 7th house. What if there is a kite in the composite? The trine being sun, moon, neptune, with pluto being the head of the kite, opposite moon in the composite.
I think Pluto square ASC will be worse than this. Will the square at 8 degrees composite have a pervasive effect on the relationship. Like a main theme of relationship?
Can this be applied to the progressed composite? I noticed I have it there with my partner (it’s conjunct moon in the second in the regular composite) and it stays there forever.
Is it even possible and right to stay in such relationship, let's say, forever? It's the third time in a row I meet a person, whom I am dating now and we have Pluto on the ascendant. When I saw this the third time, I started laughing because I couldn't believe it happens again (in the future I will be able to rectify partners birth time hahah). I really don't want to be in such a relationship forever because it feels so evil, so bad, I can't even explain. Instead of pure love you get dark obsession, which also makes you break any kind of limits of sexuality. You really become someone you could never imagine to be. Exciting but evil!
Truth In Aspect Astrology/ Jewel That's what I did two previous times. If that's the third time, it probably means something. Maybe something is not finished. Thanks for your response!
goodoldmusic any new stories after one year? In my opinion ...i think we always get what we need. If we don’t understand it when hints are subtle and/or we run away ... then the next time around it will just present itself with a nicer mask and more amazing sex, so we can no longer resist it. We get lured into the plutonic cave and can’t run away. We get hurt, we die, and get reborn. Not because the universe would hate us so much and would want us to suffer (Jupiter speaking now) but to help us own our shit, integrate our own shadow & our own power. Empaths and narcissists are just two sides of the same coin - both afraid of abandonment and both insecure- both manipulate... I think when we learn who we are, are open about our needs and desires and have mo longer fear of abandonment then there is no need for such manipulation and perhaps no need for such (abusive) relationships. I think there is always a higher and lower expression of planetary functions so at the higher level Pluto is about healing and transformation while at the lower level it can be manipulation...and we meet the lower level (from the outside) in order to get frustrated (to see things) and essentially integrate the higher expression of it...
What about when pluto is conjunct the asc but part of a mystic rectangle opposite jupiter 7th with neptune, and venus ? Neptune and Jupiter also in a grand trine with the moon 10H? only other challenge is mars sq moon. The rest is blue lines!? Does that mean it will be more healing?
I'm in pain...from an ex ...and i keep meeting this men i get this aspect with and moon square Pluto ..like the intelligence is fallowing me, and what can I say i stop talking to them cause they start acting weard. And no i don't feel intensity and that. I just think they are rude in the end.
What does it mean to have near asc (1st house) plito, sun, mercury and venus?? we spoke 1 week and he said td be better if we ended our relationship. Seems like he has somebody but I have no idea what's happening damn. Opposite to Saturn in 7th.
HEllo i dont understand astrology,but your describing me as a empath and my life ...Would you be so kind to direct me were i could up to fine out if we are both pluto or what ever we may be..kindest regards...I normally turn off astrology as they talk in ways i dont understand..Your like my old martial arts teacher who taught me in a away,sir techneqnical time couldnt teach me..i i could understand his ways...Im trying to say,for a novice like me to understand,you would make a great teacher...
@HikariBelle jewel says the davison is actually more accurate than the mid-points version in one of her videos about composites. Don't know if that is true or not, but she is the expert not me, so I'll take her word for it.
Are there any aspects (synastry/composit) that could soften this Pluto conjunct Ascendant aspect? (I just started this relationship and we have this aspect, also we have Moon conjunct Pluto, Sun, Asc, Venus conjunct Mars, ...Moon semisquare Neptune...and others. This relationship doesn't feel dark at all so far.)
I have this with baby boy....we are both scorpio risings and oh boy. I'm scared of this one. But it makes me have a rush!! Its very passionate... we decided we were going to be together right after we had sex! We also have sun sextile pluto!
Is it also true for progressed composite ? We have it within 1° , with Pluto in the 1st house. Pluto is mooving so slowly, this aspect will remain for years.
I have this in composite chart also squaring MC. But we got moon, north node, chiron all conjuct in the 8th house (opposite uranus). How do u interpret that?
So what if we have pluto conjunct ascendant in the 12 house but we have venus conjunct mars conjunct ascendant by the 1st house ... no hard aspects, none of us is plutonic xD
And what about the spiritual level of both people involved? I know i have the potential to do this things but my deep belifs are strong about whats right or wrong. My cousin and i have both scorpio ascendant, we live togueter and chill. Aspects maybe??
Do you think that if a person has this natally, that then the energy is easier and more natural to deal with? Both are within a year in age, ascendants within a degree of each other and both with Pluto on the ascendant.
If a couple's composite chart has Pluto 10 degrees Scorpio and Rising 23 degrees Scorpio, this would be read as Pluto in the 12th house, correct? And so none of the above would apply.
I had this with someone and boy do I miss the thrill, anxiety, the purging of emotion, the everything you’ve ever wanted in someone....
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Omg reading all the comments and listening to this video I feel like I have found my tribe 💕💕💕💕💕💕
So beautifully put for such a deep, deep complex aspect. Jewel, your ability to unearth some of the harshest astrological influences is astounding. You see people.
Here at 555 likes.. my partner of 6 years and I have Scorpio rising composite with Pluto conjunct the ascendant. He is my “twin flame”..I knew this man the moment I met him and our trauma filled lives prior to meeting one another are the same experiences. Very profound relationship. We both have very strong Pluto signatures in our own natal charts as well, and a double whammy of Venus-Pluto hard aspects in synastry.
This comment was too on the nose for me 😅
My partner and I are a composite Scorpio risings with Pluto conjunct the ascendant as well.
You really give me goosebumps when I watch your videos. I have this in my composite in Scorpio with Scorpio ascendent and in synastry. I'm plutonic and my boyfriend has moon and Pluto in Scorpio in the 1st house; he's Scorpio rising. It's so true!!! I'm older then him too. I have asked myself that question multiple times about the narcissistic and empath issue, it's that something doesn't feel right feeling. Manipulation is a real big theme with everything! Its constant undercurrents that are not said but felt. Just want you to know that your videos are so educational, intuitive and touching.
+VibratingWithTheStars My 💗 to you.
I have Sun/Venus opposite Pluto. He has Pluto as the focal point of a T-Square. We have composite Pluto (partile quincunx Mars) on the ascendant. I have said numerous times in this connection that he is a gift. My connection to him has brought up so many things I have needed to work out about myself and I have been able to do that successfully with him. I don’t know that he has really worked much out for himself.
We recently got into a discussion in which it was very obvious to me that we just see and do life from completely different perspectives (my Neptune is on his ascendant, his Neptune is on my moon, which is my chart ruler). It feels like an insurmountable obstacle to me. I’m aware that it just might mean that the transformation this relationship was intended to initiate is complete. Or many it’s breaking through to another level in need of transformation.
Had this placement with someone..... super sensual and transformative. Ended VERY badly. He became extremely jealous of my male best friend and scared him into moving away. Then, i moved away too yet we find eachother every once in a while still that same depth and obsession.....
May I ask, Lauren are you the pluto or the rising..?..
This is so true!!! I was in a relationship with a man twice my age at 21. We were together for 5 years. We were so clingy with each other. Then after it ended we still got together and had sex. He still-after all these years tries to stay in contact with me. There was so much manipulation between us. People around us reacted VERY intensely to us as well. We made people around us immensely uncomfortable. Our breakup was so terrible. Brought out the ugliest in both of us.
wow! that must have been some deep transformation. i have this too with someone twice my age. quite a roller-coaster.
Yes, it was one if the relationships that really changed my path in life drastically.
why did it
end ??
@@themoonbleu627 because it had to. It was toxic. But also - the aspects in my chart led me to move on and towards another kind of relationship- that was when transiting Pluto entered my 7th house. The new kind of relationship lasted the duration of my Pluto 7th house transit and it helped me see relationships differently. THAT 7th house relationship ended when Pluto crossed over into the 8th a 2nd time after a short dip back into my 7th. It only ended because my Pluto 7th house partner died - which was a very Pluto 8th house experience for me. The past years since Pluto has been in my 8th it’s been all about letting go. Many deaths of all kinds - felt like a recurrent ripping open. But now I am transformed - COMPLETELY! Who I was even four years ago when I first wrote this initial comment - Is long gone.
@@bobo9537 wow!!! thats incredible
thank you for sharing. i found reading your story to be very insightful
I've seen this in each of my most intense attractions/exes. So brutal! Thanks for addressing this and making me feel less crazy
we've got composite Pluto conjunct ascendant, Venus square Pluto, moon square Saturn, Sun square Saturn, Venus trine Saturn, Sun opposite Uranus, Venus conjunct MC. We have Sun in the 8th house and moon in the 2nd house. The first week of being together we bought a really nice home and shit has gone crazy since then. The scary part is I want to see how crazier it can get. Jewel you're right.
Lace Mitchell you bought a house after a week of being together?
blooeyedtigger yeah man we thought we were in it forever. They already had the process going and I was in. Call me crazy it was intense.
Update pls. What happened?
@@uchenwanjoku3027 definitely ended in a trainwreck
What ended the relationship?
Amazingly accurate. Had 2 of these relationships and they both had personality disorders. You articulated this so well. Took such a long time to heal from them.
6:30 is so accurate, the passive partner was me. He manipulated me into getting with him and then I manipulated him into staying by being codependent. He had heavy Pluto with some Neptune and I had some strong Pluto Aspects like Pluto conjunct my Asc with Scorpio Psyche with a little heavier Neptune placements. Very Accurate!
Pressure cooker is the right description! Im the empath who went no contact with my partner. He is narcissistic. This relationship is teaching me how to set strong boundaries against toxic people. However, i am instensely attracted to him and have been abstaining from sex for 3 years. It is torturous but i gotta stand my ground.
May I ask are you the pluto or the ascendant..??..
Thanks in advance
Karen Brunnen In a composite chart it’s the midpoint of both charts, so both partners having this aspect. Maybe you’re thinking of a synastry chart.
Thank you for this video!
I have this aspect with my GF. It's been quite new and what you say about the beginning of the relationship sounds familiar... Our relationship feels fated, intense and transformative. we are both very plutonic, she has pluto in ascendant and i have pluto conjunct ascendant from 12th house. The composit sun is conjunct to pluto from the 12th house. I hope it is not going to end in a nasty way!
Prolly did
@@lok6314 Not really. The end was rather difficult for her as i sent mixed signals.
We are very good friends now
I have this with someone and boy she does make me nervous. I like her so much that I get sick to my stomach when I see her. I just want her to notice me so much!
I have been rewatching this again and again Jewel... *sigh* because my beloved and I have a thick Pluto connection in Composite and Synastry and he is a Pluto-Risng while I am a Scorpio-Rising. This video is the only in-depth analysis of Composite Pluto conjunct Ascendant and we have it in our Composite too, these feelings are shocking indeed that it makes me anxious sometimes and this video/information helped me to understand why so thank you so much for this Jewel!
I actually love our thick Pluto connection or I love Pluto energies since I am a Scorpio-Rising.
Hello, I'm also a Scorpio rising, he's pluto in scorpio and mars too..
May I ask what happened bet. You two.. ?.. any advice..?.. or is it doomed to fail..?..
Thanks in advance!
I have this conjunction in my composite chart with my ex. I've known my ex for 30 years now, which says something about the durability of Pluto. In synastry, his Pluto is conjunct my Moon, which is an aspect I have natally, and my south node is conjunct his Sun. He and I met when we were teenagers and married when I was 17 and he was 19, so no age difference. There was a significant difference in our IQs, maturity levels, and mental stability, though, and unfortunately he was lacking in those areas. There was no great sex, soulmate feeling, or passionate attraction at all between us, but the ascendant sign of the chart is in late Virgo. I actually think Virgo enhances the potential for the abuse of power and of inequality in the partnership characterized by Pluto. It was a VERY abusive and chaotic 10-year marriage in every respect- emotional, physical, and financial, with me being the recipient of all of the abuse and his chronic inability to work or accept responsibility. I take responsibility for choosing to be with him, and the damage seeing an abusive relationship had on our two children. He was a psychological composite of both of my parents' worst traits. In the marriage, I constantly demanded he live up to expectations he couldn't meet. I also constantly blamed myself and tried to change myself, thinking it would change him. The only positive to come from this is my personality completely transformed over a very long process. The need to control him or anyone else, or the need to change him or anyone else disappeared. I stopped blaming myself for others' problems and allowing myself to be scapegoated. We actually have a (platonic) stable, cooperative co-parenting relationship for the most part now, but I still have to set boundaries with him at times or he'll try to steal money from me.
I have this with a friend of mine. We have a very close relationship, almost symbiotic, which I don't like at all. We spend our time together discussing our daily problems, so there's a constant complaining about life and other people going on. We often avoid talking about the issues of our relationship until we can't deal with them anymore. We sometimes separate from each other because we can't stand our energies anymore, but eventually come back together. It's a pretty toxic friendship.
We both feel it and we both don't want it, but it's been difficult to let it go completely.
thats interesting
im wondering for couples who have this aspect if therapy would be a good option since pluto likes to change things
if this aspect makes you look at yourself and your issues, im also wondering if the people that are getting into these kinds of relationships are drawing them in as a way to help to help them improve
Can I ask how come it’s hard to let go? And anything you think could be the reason why it’s toxic? I’m looking for some clarity.
Wow. I experienced this aspect (in Scorpio) with someone and also had a Scorpio stellium in the composite.
Something else I notice about this configuration is when you two are together it is VERY triggering for others. I have this with a guy I met at work some 5 yrs ago & we’ve been on & off. We had an affair, he’s now divorced but is engaged again & after a bit of a break we picked up right where we left off. Not only do we have Pluto @ zero degrees in Scorpio conjuncting the ascendant, the chart is also heavily fixed earth/water, with a yod thrown in. We basically agreed to keep seeing each other despite his current situation. It’s fucked up but it’s so hard to walk away from each other. I suspect he’s narcissistic, but we’ve never lived together so I don’t know what he’s really like outside of the time we spend together. We act like addicts & over time it’s like we need another “hit” of each to get thru until the next time we see each other. I honestly wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
Oh how i understand smh 😔
I feel lead to say... Someone you love, who's crossed the rainbow bridge, is turning your light off to get your attention! How sweet! Testimony to loves eternal flame!
I had this aspect with my ex girlfriend and man do you know your stuff ms jewel. I mean everything you said literally described that relationship. Extremely intense manipulative passionate but unhealthy for the both of us. Still think about her but I know being with her was dangerous for both of our mental health. We were quite young. Thank you for your work
I have pluto in the 1st house and exactly sextile venus, along with neptune square the ascendant so these pluto themed relationships, and pluto/empath relationships are a bit of a theme in my life. The 5 relationships in my life that have left the greatest impression on me (4 romantic, one friendship although admittedly I did think she was outstandingly cute when I first met her) have pluto conjunct or square the composite ascendant. The one where pluto was square the ascendant, and also square the sun, actually felt the least horrible, at least for me, as we have sun, moon, eros, saturn, venus, mercury conjunct. I also have pluto conjunct the composite ascendant with my mother (control issues galore!). What you said about control issues was spot on.
i need to run away from this new person. im scared. im younger but i feel like the secretly controlling one. i'd rather get rid of this all together.
We have Pluto conjunct ascendant, square Venus, and sextile sun. Scorpio rising, all in composite. Very deep, painful yet short lived relationship, rough break up. We have one child together, we coparent well together now but always have that temptation between us which is hard to ignore sometimes. I often think if we’d work well together now that we’ve had time to heal.
Wow Very accurate and well articulated Thank you :)
Mine and my bf pluto and land ascending are conjunct but Pluto technically is in the 12th house, Pluto and ascendant are in Scorpio! Pretty cool! I love learning this stuff
how are things going with you both?? i have this too
Oh and Yes... We had pluto square the MC. Pluto was conjunct Uranus in 1st house. He had a natal out of element grand trine between pluto in 9th in Leo, Mars in Capricorn and sun in Aries. I don't know if that makes him Plutonian. I am a Neptunian with a bit of pluto, I guess? I mean Pluto aspects all of my personal planets except my unaspected moon.
Well if Pluto aspects all of your personal planets you are highly Plutonic not a bit 😁
I'm simultaneously triggered & turned on by the guy I'm dating. And I recognize it's toxic and I struggle to release myself but I also just want to be ensnared. And he does just that. It's like he has me on a leash and isn't gonna let me go. Even in sleep when I move he holds me tight (& he sleeps like he's dead). I get the impression there is unnecessary manipulation and that makes me want to break free and run at full speed but never so far that I can't return.
The stuff that triggers me are childhood & relationship traumas that he fills the holes of, pushes my defensive boundaries with, and things I desire but don't readily allow myself to receive. We've been talking 4 months and dating 1.5 and it seems like much longer. He's already told me he loves me and is set on marrying me. It's crazy. I know it's crazy and at the same time I also recognize it's something that makes sense & I'd go along with.
I know what a narcissistic relationship feels like so I think I recognized the signs early but there's this twistedness of it that it is appealing in a fucked up way
Are you guys still together? How did things develop between you?
@@k.c7655 in early August he brought up some emotional triggers and got all upset and we had this huge fight that I'm still not sure what it was about... since then we have been fighting every few months. I broke up w him cause I felt like he could care less (on my birthday no less). But then I kept trying to mKe it work or smooth things out cause I realized he's special to me and the weird shit I'm looking for or moreso what I find interesting... And we kept "breaking up". So I eventually was like ok, I just want to be friends w him then, that is what works. And then he's looking at things like we are a couple eventhough he states he doesn't want that and has accused me of doing things to pass him off and that I need to fix my behavior. But it's never about him somehow or his behaviors that I don't like aren't what's wrong. Lately it just feels like he's trying to control me (it's always felt like that in different ways) - control the way I respond to him so he feels better about himself. And I'm just done. I'm checked out. He has substance abuse issues and now he threw this left curve and wants all the affection and attention and only wants to feel good. And doesn't recognize he created the scenario now and simultaneously wants things to change immediately and pushes me away and cokes crawling back. And like wants to treat me like a committed boyfriend without commitment while he continues to use. And I continue to do what I want (like date others w him knowing) and act how my nervous system is gonna act and adjust accordingly to our conversations. But it's like not enough. He adjusts too, but also not in waves. It's just a lot of double standards and I feel like we are on different pages and it's confusing and toxic and I dunno how to stop cause h keeps coming back or I keep allowing or welcoming it. The last 2 days it's been him getting upset cause I'm not showing him affection in public and around my son when in the past he's clearly stated he didn't want a relationship or when I tried to be cozy w him he'd reject it. So my head is spinning and I don't really care at this point if I lose him or not. When I realize I just need to cold turkey his ass.
I would not recommend this kind of relationship. Not for the faint of heart! With my ex, we had Pluto/AC conjunct in composite and Pluto/DC conjunct in Davison. I'm a Scorpio Sun (also with Mars in 8th) and his Scorpio Rising is exactly conjunct my sun at 29 degrees. He also has Moon Square Pluto in natal. We both have Moon Square Uranus in natals. He has three planets in my 7th and conjunct my Cap moon (Cap Sun, Mars, venus). We also had a mutual Vertex/AC conjunction in synastry and Vertex/DC conjunction in composite. Fated? It felt that way. It was very intense (and I loved it) ... but in addition to Pluto, we also had Uranus conjunct Pluto in each composite too. In Davison, Uranus fell in 7th house. In synastry, my Uranus falls in his 11th house. He is 10 yrs older too, as Jewel mentioned age difference. So it was very painful, with the off/on energy ... intense beginning with abrupt painful ending. I'm still dealing with the pain from breakup and have intense love/hate feelings towards him ... meanwhile he is in a relationship with another woman, which happened the day after breaking up (he'd just met her that week). He also has his moon in Gemini in 7th, conjunct his DC. I have my moon in 7th, conjunct DC as well, but it's in the more grounded, less fickle/indecisive, sign of Capricorn.
Thanks Jewel for the great videos! I've learned so much.
Funny, I am in a relationship with pluto conjunct ascending around 2 degrees... and one of us is older by 12 years... in our composite we have pluto trine and sextile everything... but we have moon square mars and moon square neptune, moon square venus... I have the pluto square sun theme in my birthchart... And pluto trine moon and jupiter in eighth house... so I am not sure if I am the narcissist or the empath... I think we are both plutonic...
What about Pluto square ascendant in a composite chart ?
Can you please do a video on composite yods, grand trines, t squares, rectangles, kites, cradles and castles and how the energies play out and well what it all means coz im clueless lol bless you 🙏
you are nailed it... omg wow
Hi Jewel, I was wondering if this Aspect description is the same for Pluto conjunct the Asc in the 12 house?
Thank you
I would love to hear your story I have this placement in the 12th with someone
i would say it depends on the orb- if you have pluto signatures in your synastry as well, maybe a 12th house conjunction to the ascendant up to 5 or 6° would apply.
oh god yes it is also squaring the midheaven!
This kind of worries me.. I wish someone could help me understand it better in a way that was safe. My friend and I both have pluto on the ascendant plus composite pluto on the ascendant. Both have jupitor moon conjuction in the 12th house both been through really bad negative stuff in life and we are coming together working through it. We are both empathic theres no sexual connection. It does feel transformative but I also feel really down in her presence maybe because we are pulling up stuff, but I feel we are getting somewhere out of addressing our issues. We bounce ideas off each other like two minds coming together to have greater understanding. And whilst astrology seems to have old wisdom it feels too complex to understand. Yet I don't want to just dismiss it. Wise people want to help each other so when it says something bad I want to understand why. Not just told it's bad.
Does having a grand trine of sun, moon, and neptune in the composite chart, mitigate having scorpio pluto right on the composite ascendant? Also Jupiter in the 7th house.
What if there is a kite in the composite? The trine being sun, moon, neptune, with pluto being the head of the kite, opposite moon in the composite.
what about the trine aspect? does it make the things a little bit better..
I think Pluto square ASC will be worse than this. Will the square at 8 degrees composite have a pervasive effect on the relationship. Like a main theme of relationship?
Do sun square pluto in composite please! There are no videos on youtube about it!
how does this play out between two friends/platonically?
Can this be applied to the progressed composite? I noticed I have it there with my partner (it’s conjunct moon in the second in the regular composite) and it stays there forever.
Is it even possible and right to stay in such relationship, let's say, forever? It's the third time in a row I meet a person, whom I am dating now and we have Pluto on the ascendant. When I saw this the third time, I started laughing because I couldn't believe it happens again (in the future I will be able to rectify partners birth time hahah). I really don't want to be in such a relationship forever because it feels so evil, so bad, I can't even explain. Instead of pure love you get dark obsession, which also makes you break any kind of limits of sexuality. You really become someone you could never imagine to be. Exciting but evil!
+goodoldmusic It it feels dark, then it is. Move on and don’t be slow about it.
Truth In Aspect Astrology/ Jewel That's what I did two previous times. If that's the third time, it probably means something. Maybe something is not finished. Thanks for your response!
goodoldmusic any new stories after one year? In my opinion ...i think we always get what we need. If we don’t understand it when hints are subtle and/or we run away ... then the next time around it will just present itself with a nicer mask and more amazing sex, so we can no longer resist it. We get lured into the plutonic cave and can’t run away. We get hurt, we die, and get reborn. Not because the universe would hate us so much and would want us to suffer (Jupiter speaking now) but to help us own our shit, integrate our own shadow & our own power. Empaths and narcissists are just two sides of the same coin - both afraid of abandonment and both insecure- both manipulate... I think when we learn who we are, are open about our needs and desires and have mo longer fear of abandonment then there is no need for such manipulation and perhaps no need for such (abusive) relationships. I think there is always a higher and lower expression of planetary functions so at the higher level Pluto is about healing and transformation while at the lower level it can be manipulation...and we meet the lower level (from the outside) in order to get frustrated (to see things) and essentially integrate the higher expression of it...
@@goodoldmusic it means you haven’t learn your lesson.
please do mars opposite pluto in the composite chart!! Even though I'm scared about it lol
Does this play out less dramatically when it’s 3° from the asc in the 12th?
Is it the same if Pluto is in the first house, or is that something different altogether?
What about trine? There’s little to no info online about Pluto in any aspect to the ascendant online (for composite).
What about composite Pluto trine Ascendant ?
My son and I have this
What about when pluto is conjunct the asc but part of a mystic rectangle opposite jupiter 7th with neptune, and venus ? Neptune and Jupiter also in a grand trine with the moon 10H? only other challenge is mars sq moon. The rest is blue lines!? Does that mean it will be more healing?
I'm in pain...from an ex ...and i keep meeting this men i get this aspect with and moon square Pluto ..like the intelligence is fallowing me, and what can I say i stop talking to them cause they start acting weard. And no i don't feel intensity and that. I just think they are rude in the end.
Are there any aspects that can help support this aspect??
Please respond
I’m curious about how would it be for the trine?
Please do Saturn on the Ascedant 🌸
How about for the sextile ?
Would your description apply if the transit Pluto conjuncts the composite ascendant for the period the transit lasts?
Would 6 degrees be too much of an orb with composite Pluto conjunct composite ascendant?
What does it mean to have near asc (1st house) plito, sun, mercury and venus?? we spoke 1 week and he said td be better if we ended our relationship. Seems like he has somebody but I have no idea what's happening damn. Opposite to Saturn in 7th.
And what if it is well aspected like trine moon in the fifth, trine sun and mercury in the 9th ( grand trine ) ? Some experiencies anyone ?
HEllo i dont understand astrology,but your describing me as a empath and my life ...Would you be so kind to direct me were i could up to fine out if we are both pluto or what ever we may be..kindest regards...I normally turn off astrology as they talk in ways i dont understand..Your like my old martial arts teacher who taught me in a away,sir techneqnical time couldnt teach me..i i could understand his ways...Im trying to say,for a novice like me to understand,you would make a great teacher...
Narcissist/Codependent
Him 28/ Me 38
Synastry
Pluto trine/ My Mercury
Natals
Pluto in Scorpio/ Sun Venus Mercury 8th
Very accurate information
i hope you left him
we have this in the Davison but not in the Composite.
@HikariBelle jewel says the davison is actually more accurate than the mid-points version in one of her videos about composites. Don't know if that is true or not, but she is the expert not me, so I'll take her word for it.
Are there any aspects (synastry/composit) that could soften this Pluto conjunct Ascendant aspect? (I just started this relationship and we have this aspect, also we have Moon conjunct Pluto, Sun, Asc, Venus conjunct Mars, ...Moon semisquare Neptune...and others. This relationship doesn't feel dark at all so far.)
Hello. What does it look like in your partnership with compozite Pluto? Narcissism, manipulation, lies, or loyalty, passion?
@@slavyangolubica3846 I’m trying to figure out the same thing
Thank you.
i have pluto in scorpio 1 degree conjuct my ascendant 8 degree...
Can you do composite pluto conjunct descendant?
I have this with baby boy....we are both scorpio risings and oh boy. I'm scared of this one. But it makes me have a rush!! Its very passionate... we decided we were going to be together right after we had sex! We also have sun sextile pluto!
Is it also true for progressed composite ? We have it within 1° , with Pluto in the 1st house. Pluto is mooving so slowly, this aspect will remain for years.
I have this in composite chart also squaring MC. But we got moon, north node, chiron all conjuct in the 8th house (opposite uranus). How do u interpret that?
Would this be in the same as a progressed composite chart?
I wonder if it's the same for the progressed composite? How many years will this aspect last?
yeah our composite sun and venus is in the 8th :0
So what if we have pluto conjunct ascendant in the 12 house but we have venus conjunct mars conjunct ascendant by the 1st house ... no hard aspects, none of us is plutonic xD
What about in Davidson ? Is it the same interpretation ?
If Pluto is on the composite ascendent first house and then mars is conjunct the 12th house side that could super indicate sex buddies right?
pluto 12th house conjunct scorpio ascendant. Pluto is making a square to sun. I don't know what that means
So it is doomed from the start... I have a stellium in the 12th house in Leo. There is no hope..
I'm curious about composite Neptune conjunct Descendant
what if pluto is in a grand water trine w the sun and moon?
I have this with my father 😬
Soo is ok if both are already plutonic?
+Perly Castro That will make it worse.
oh no. i am very plutonic and someone i have this aspect with has a loaded 8th house.
My cousin and i live togueter and we both scorpio rising, we get súper well... Maybe aspects or what?
And what about the spiritual level of both people involved? I know i have the potential to do this things but my deep belifs are strong about whats right or wrong. My cousin and i have both scorpio ascendant, we live togueter and chill. Aspects maybe??
Is the opposition much worse than this, Jewel?
+Lily Oh Its about as hard.
What if it's not just Pluto on the ascendant but Saturn's conjunct the ascendant in the composite as well ?
+tenea Thats a rather brutal thing to have going on. It shows your roughness, invulnerability and insecurity is leading the relationship.
Is it same as in synastry
Is there a difference if this falls in the 12th or 1st house?
Do you think that if a person has this natally, that then the energy is easier and more natural to deal with? Both are within a year in age, ascendants within a degree of each other and both with Pluto on the ascendant.
+Tony Vittitoe It will likely exacerbate already existing issues in your own natal charts.
Truth In Aspect Astrology/ Jewel Thanks for the quick response! I appreciate it.
What about Pluto trine ascendant composite?
That shows resilience and staying power. It’s not a difficult aspect.
Is this a somewhat similar dynamic to Pluto trine ascendant?
as in, the manipulation aspect of it?
+Christine Chan That's a lot easier to deal with. Typically the trine has less of the struggle.
How would the square play out?
Does this apply in the Davidson?
How would the trine be?
If a couple's composite chart has Pluto 10 degrees Scorpio and Rising 23 degrees Scorpio, this would be read as Pluto in the 12th house, correct? And so none of the above would apply.
+Tereza Plockova yes, it’s a twelfth house Pluto in this case.
is the sextile
less
intense
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Hahaha! I can't trust my light! 😂
can this apply if pluto is within 10-15 degrees from asc?
+linkinaxiom It won't be as severe as my description but still counts.
its conjunct sun in 1st house libra. Hopefully its like u said...less severe. thank u!
Uranus in the 12th house lol
Is this the same as composite pluto in 1st house ?
Pretty much. If it's not the same, it's similar.
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