Sony just changed photography FOREVER With The a9 III
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Sony just changed photography forever by releasing the Sony a9 III the world's first global shutter camera. - Розваги
As an amateur hobbyist photographer, this is super exciting. Can't wait to get my hands on this tech in another 10 years.
😂😂😂
$6,000 at B&H.
@DryBones111: Agreed, same here !
📷 🎯 ✌️
awww cmon,its chicken feed🤏🤣😂24mp...woohoo
Don’t worry, photography will be dead in 4 years max
1:57 : Game Changer
3:01 : Huge Game Changer
3:56 : Game Changer for wildlife photographer
4:14 : Stabilization is a Game Changer
5:00 : Massive game changer
But, in terms of the game does it change anything?
Admits to not understanding a feature. Still considers it a game changer.
Very Sad you time stamped oh dear
Lol yeah I love this video but dude needs to get a Thesaurus to find other words. If he does that I could be a... revolutionary development 😂
You make the video better!
I've been using global shutter cameras in engineering applications for 2 decades. Never realised that it is such a huge thing for commercial cameras. Guess I never knew how good I had it.
True? Then this video is pretty 'behind the times' really. Can you tell me or give some links to where we can find more info?
@@abrogard142Check out industrial cameras - they've been global shutter for a long time. All you need on your sensor is just more wiring and more electricity. These are the major reasons why it has not been in consumer gear... Much worse battery life, much more expensive sensors with not much more benefit outside video.
In industrial setting you often cannot accept a rolling shutter effect. Both are very common however.
This global shutter is a feature of the sensor which provides a bunch of benefits. But you are correct that global shutters in the optical path have been around for decades.
This "global shutter" doesn't actually block the light. Each pixel has its own private memory. The pixels simultaneously start collecting light, and simultaneously transfer the reading to their private memory. They are immediately ready to collect light for the next image. Meanwhile, the data from the memory cells is read out scanline by scanline.
Transistors can be stacked within a single IC. The memory and control electronics are beneath the light sensor on the same chip.
@@abrogard142the difference is that its not in the pro-consumer space, they said that they use it in their engineering space which can be expensive
Global shutter has been around in cinema cameras for around 10 years now. But in a FF model is unique. Blackmagic camerad used to have Global Shutter, Red Komodo has Global Shutter,
This is an important camera and a giant leap in technology although I do predict some pain and setbacks are in order. I'm a Canon shooter. If Canon doesn't introduce a global shutter on the R5ii or R1, they will have a hard time catching up. Probably the most amazing thing about this though is the lack of rumors or leaks. This just goes to show the leaks and rumors originate at the manufacturer and are primarily marketing messages.
I'm using Nikon, but perhaps I'll hold off on picking up a Z9.
Photography is dead, AI and this makes it way too easy. Why did I even study this for 4 years haha
Calm down. People don’t want their wedding pictures done by AI (yet)
AI isn't nearly there yet BUT it is very close! @@lewielutz4661
@@lewielutz4661 That's actually false. While it sounds scary to photographers since they know no better about how AI works, it still requires user input. AI can just do as much as physically it is allowed to or programmed. This is not the AI that is self learning and can build itself, it has a set of programming done to it by which it abides, basically rules it can't break because it doesn't want to nor it literally can't since there is no code that can allow it to, because there are codes that indicate conflicts if something is not working like it should. And physical limitation is present as well, which is camera. You still need to point it, you still need to input requirements, it can't read minds or what you want from it, you need to input what you want.
Small mistake at 2:24 this camera can shot up to 1/80,000 of a second, 10 times faster than most cameras up to day, and thanks to the global shutter it can sync flash even at that speed, which is mind boggling
Well, thats a well-needed correction then!
Not with all flash, will depend on the flash duration and I would expect wireless transmitters to limit it also due to latency.
@@rickjbradburyAs long as flash duration is slower than 1/80,000 then it will work.
I have not done flash photography in a while. But did I miss something? Has the the way a flash works changed? Because from what I remember in dark situations you only cared how much light because the duration was so short it was not worth talking about. It was the shutter. For normal flash photography really high shutter speeds would be pointless. Did I miss something?
Lots of electronic-shutter cameras top out at 1/32,000, so 1/80,000 is only about 1-1/2 stops better. The flash sync is a bigger deal, but a lot of people are going to get burned when they discover that their flash's duration is longer than the camera's capture duration at high shutter speeds, so the exposure will be capturing only a fraction of the total flash energy... it will basically behave like a continuous light, where turning up the shutter speed reduces the flash exposure...
At some point, affordable full frame sensors were holy grail, which have become reality in only few years... Hopefully the global shutter will become norm in next couple of years as well...
Yes and we only have Sony to thank. Without Sony none of us would be here
You mean next couple decades. There's absolutely no way this will be the norm in the next couple years other than the flagship devices. Its going to be too expensive for most for quite a while.
@@katflorida8349 technically... The 5D mk2 opened the door.
@Broskisnowskithis is the worlds first full frame global shutter, no other has been released yet, thats why its a big deal
It definitely will because there is a cost saving from not needing a mech shutter. As soon as the cost comes close to the mech shutter, it will take over.
For a working pro, $6K for the performance expansion capabilities isn't expensive at all. I'd say it's an excellent value compared to other high priced camera bodies out there-e.g. Hasselblad, Leica, Fuji GFX series, etc.
Would have been nice if they used the 33mp like the a 7 iv just to give it that little extra
Agreed. Professional Sports and wild life photographers won't bat an eye at the price considering what they're about to get.
I'm not sure whether you actually are a working pro or not, but six grand is definitely expensive. Even considering tax, I'm still paying an amount of money that could pay for a very nice family vacation - and I already have cameras, so the question is really "is the a9 III going to pay for itself by getting me more/higher paying jobs than my current camera". I'm not sure that's the case. All this being said - I'll still probably buy one after the first price drop.
It’s just camera gear nerds who need this camera
@@Snapit551 well it’s not though is it. This will enable all sorts of photographers to block out a lot of sunlight in the middle of the day and use small portable strobes to light their photos which will give the photos an individual look that brings them a whole new market of work.
3:33 This feature is already present in the newer Sony A7 cameras (e.g. the A7Cii). Pose estimation means that when an object temporarily obscures the eye of a person/dog/bird/... you don't stop tracking the eye, because you can still roughly estimate where it is based on the rest of the body. Instead of giving up on estimating where the eye is, you use all information you do have.
I think you misread the shutter speed. It’s 1/80,000 of a second-ten times faster than the traditional limit, and flash sync works all the way up to 1/80,000. I’m excited to see what possibilities that opens up.
Haha I absolutely did.
you mean 2.5 times my g9 from 2017 goes up to 32000
Fujifilm 1/180,000 already big deal
@@mostlymessingabout awww, did new camera tech hurt your feelings?
Thing is once you're going past 1/1000s flash duration/wireless syncing issues is also going to start eating into the flash power. It opens up ALOT of doors and it's the sensor tech I've been waiting for but 1/80000s is not going to be practical for flash work
Composite raw sounds like multi frame noise reduction. It was a setting on shooting mode back in the earlier sony slt range. It basically combines frames to determine what is noise and what is not, same as for modern smart phones
I found Sony multi frame stitching produced less sharp images. Would love to compare with this a9III.
We have been waiting for this for years. Can't wait to see other options pop up such as a box style camera which would be great for drone work.
You mean like the RX0 some time ago?
Let's see when the A6000 line gets that.
This is absolutely AMAZING!!!! ❤❤❤❤ Thanks for the video
Composite RAW is what we've been telling Sony engineers have been implemented in iPhones and Android phones where they take multiple composite shots and fix exposure and noise automatically with multiple shots. This isn't the pixel shift that Sony had before.
Especially crop sensor cameras need it desperately - worst mft/apsc is to close to best smartphone at the moment
so basically an in body hdr?
@@yipyap5456more like stacked photos used in astrophotography. Will make for great lowlight👍 Good job Sony.
@@yipyap5456HDR could be a use case for this, but the main reason is noise reduction.
Still a bit surprising it's not all done in body, like a phone, but I think phones tend to put quite strict limits on compositing capability. I imagine the algorithms for this just aren't mature enough yet to be put on low power processors. Or they want to force people to use their software
The Human Recognition tracking at 03:30 system looks similar to the technology currently seen in motion capture programs like MoveAI and WonderStudio, which use AI to not only motion track, but also generate skeletal systems for 3D animations on the fly - directly from video.
Extremely fascinating! ✨Thanks for sharing 🙌
I don't see a global shutter in my future as an older amateur photographer, but hopefully one day soon the younger photographers will see it happen. I think camera makers are only going to offer a global shutter on pro-level bodies for quite some time to come. No doubt Sony will want a premium price for that sensor, so unless another camera company wants to lose money they'll be putting a hefty price tag on anything that offers this technology. We never got a stacked sensor in a lower level body, I suspect this new shutter will be about the same in how it gets shared down the line.
I shoot live theatre under LED lighting and this is the holy grail, being able to shoot fully silent with no banding from LED flicker. This is a game changer.
For flash sync, you’re still going to be limited by t.5, and possibly t.1 timings depending on the situation. 1/8000 at peak output would still cut out a lot of the light from the strobe duration unless the t.5 is faster than 1/8000.
It shoots and syncs at 1/80000 though, not 1/8000.
Glad to se you're still on the Mac!
Thank you for your cogent explanation of global shutters.
Global shutter seems absolutely legendary. Very excited for this to enter the A7 and A7S series
Global shutter downsides: markedly reduced dynamic range capabilities, much lower ISO sensitivity capabilities. Just think of CCD sensor cameras of 10-12 years ago.
Really cool stuff! Great explanations. Interested to see how this will develop further 👏
Ty for info :)
Great video! The content was rich and continuous! I like your work! Nice work! I think I am gonna subscribe
The Sony a9 III is honestly the most exciting camera in, at the very least, the last 5 years, and as you said, maybe even since video was introduced in DSLRs. I can't afford this, myself, but I'm glad it exists and also hope that its technologies eventually trickle down to other Sony cameras and other brands..
it'd be on iphone in 5 years probably.
@@jacks19822it will be on android in 5 years. Apple will invent global shutter for the iPhone 30.
Nah, Z9 was more impressive at its time imo. Still, this Sony looks really nice, too.
@@jacks19822*50 years 😂😂
@@jacks19822Apple tends to do very little in the way of hardware upgrades like these, they like to let other companies beta test so they can see what works and what doesn't. They are trendsetters, not trailblazers.
The Blackmagic Production Camera 4K was ahead of the game by 10 years!
Global shutter @4K in 2013! It was APS-C/Super35 16:9, and the noise performance was terrible in the reds, but still. Bargain if you can put up with not being able to see the screen in daylight!
But that thing is not a camera, really. It lacks so many essential features and basicly is a box with a lens mount on it.
@@jmkhenka why is it not a camera?
@@flipnap2112 The A9 can be used as is. The Blackmagic required lots of rigging to make it actually usable. If you want to see a professional grade camera that already uses global shutters, just look at the Arri Alexa. I know people disagree with me but I don't really count the Black Magic cameras in the same light as I do Sony or Arri's pro grade equipment. Good for low-cost production and live broadcasting but I'd not trust their cameras with my $ on the line.
@@jmkhenkablackmagic cameras are robust tools, and certainly pull their weight. I’ve just been hoping that Canon and Sony would finally jump on the global shutter bandwagon (joining RED, Blackmagic, and ARRI), and finally one of them has done it. I’m a Canon guy, but I might have to finally start selling my lenses and body. Canon seems to always be behind and I’m tired of waiting.
@@Megabean I had it for a few years and didnt have to rig anything. maybe you bought a bad unit or something? I didnt need to rig it out anymore than any of my other cameras (Vmount power, lens hood, occasional gimble, tripod)
Thanks for such a clear explanation of what and how the new specifications will help in real world scenarios.
Thank you. very cool.
as a fillmaker did not know global shutter was not implemented yet for photos, around 2014 I remember shooting films with the sony F55 and it had global shutter. ... even thought any modern mirrorless would do global shutter for stills.
This is great news. That means BlackMagic will finally move the Global Shutter they already have on their G2 camera to the 4k/6k pocket lines next year with their FF and BRAW win win!
Sensational! I’m excited
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There may be a reason for that composite RAW though. Dynamic range might suffer a lot from the global shutter. So they need a way to compensate that.
Red released the Komodo a few years ago and it has a global shutter. It's so incredibly useful. I never have to worry about flicker!
Makes stabilizing in post a dream too 🎉
Zcam has the S6G and the M5G coming out as well
Guess which sony they use
My Panasonic GS120 handheld camcorder could do this back in 2004.
@@unpluggged yeay of course buddy... I hope that you are just trolling...
Never miss a moment is literal now, thanks for the content.
amazing! I will start my photography again
One of the main benefits of the Komodo was the super35 global shutter. Now with a global shutter in FF, I wonder if Sony A9III will eat into the Komodo's market share 🤔🤔🤔
You buy a Komodo for the image quality, R3D, global shutter and form factor. Not only because of the global shutter.
Hmm I don’t know if the A9iii will eat into the Komodo share but there’s 2 more Sony E-mount cameras that were recently registered in China. One is consistent with previous FX line registrations. I wonder if this sensor will be repurposed in that camera?
@@georgemalczynski very well could be! Agreed as this body and the Komodo are designed for very different uses cases, but for some independent filmmakers, this might be a new option. Around the same cost, too. Fundamentally they are designed for completely different markets but the thought definitely crossed my mind
not until their patent expires on internal compression, but I wish that weren't the case. Imagine if sony or canon did the same with their technological innovations, seams very anti consumer to me.
@@taylorhickman84 yeah it’s so lame. While red does a lot of things right, that is one I don’t agree with
I hope that global shutter will become the norm on all cameras soon. This is a big step. Fingers crossed for a global shutter FX3 mark ii
As it was 20 years ago ;)
With a worse iso capability and dynamic range
@@unpluggged Blackmagic did it with the Production Camera 4K 10 years ago as well.
I'm in Love! ❤
Great video!!!
Only for flash photography. You can achieve the same ambient-light-to-flash-brigtnesses using ND Filters and staying in the "normal" shutter-speed time. But then obviously you are fixed to that shutter speed. Just wanted to mention it because ND Filters are no problem anymore since mirrorless came out :)
What do mirrorless change for use of ND filters?
@@IvoPavlik - you don't have the darker view through the viewfinder. Using a ND32 on DSLR is not sooo nice especially not nice compared to mirrorless ;)
@@simonzaus4263 ah, I see. Thanks
It's good to see the global shutter in a full frame sensor. Sony announced their PXW-Z750 broadcast camcorder in 2019 with a global shutter. However it's three 2/3" CMOS sensors & costs around $33,000. So huge news today for sure.
In 2020 the Pixii A1112 appeared, with a full global shutter in a compact 12-megapixel still camera. Of the few people who paid any attention, most said 12 megapixels wasn't enough and the US $3000 price tag was too high. Now Sony has introduced a global-shutter camera with exactly twice the megapixels at exactly twice the price, and it's supposedly a civilization-shaking breakthrough...huh?
@@jlwilliams I dont think you get it, with today's digital screen, I wouldnt pay 3k USD for a 12MP sensor camera. 24MP hits that spot right in terms of quality from a screen viewing to printing perspective. Also this is a more complete camera with video taking capabilities and with a large ecosystem.
Very interesting, be great to see sample photos using this camera + strobe
Sounds Insane !!!
Can you just imagine the new A1 ii? 😮
8k 60fps, Global Shutter, 80mp, 40fps electronic shutter 20fps mechanical shutter imagine people saying imagiiiiiiiine 😳😂
I'm well aware this is a huge achievement but I'll stick with dslr for as long as I can, there's a certain romance to the shutter click that I can't really give up, it's like a little dopamine hit
it will probably have an option to turn on the shutter sound effect. Mirrorless cameras already do that
@@ConnorDRyanYeah but the artificial sounds are goofy. The physical feel of a mirror flipping up and the shutter actuating is compelling haptic feedback. I love it and miss it on my Q2.
For an amateur its fine but for a pro i can't see the reduced keep ratio for dslr is going to be acceptable
Also to the prism
That was a really interesting and insightful video. I would love to know which camera and lens you used to shoot it with? The clarity on UA-cam was exceptional.
I'm speechless. It is very much like one of those "what ifs" come true we have whenever cofronted with gear limitations. Thanks for this wonderful news.
Hyped to get this in 5 years and lower prices for older cameras now,
In 5 years this camera can become obsolite. With ai tech in 5 years we can see something we cant even inagine now. So yes. Price will probably be 2000$ in 5 years
Theoretically, this would allow us to shoot in contrasty light and allow infinite dynamic range if each pixel can produce a different exposure within a single shot. Short exposure for highlights, longer for shadows. No reason to have blown highlights or crushed shadows. HDR without multiple shots.
Unfortunately, in practice the opposite is true. Dynamic range, noise and ISO performance all take a hit by having a global shutter sensor. That is with one exception… Red. Somehow Red figured out a way to still achieve good DR while using a GS sensor.
I dont see that correlation. Global shutter means all pixels on the sensor register at the same time. What you talk about would need control of each individual pixel by its own. Pretty much the opposite of global shutter.
@@XirpzyA highly tailored variation on it, still a possibility by just setting upper and lower limits on total exposure per pixel from the global average. Facilitated by lack of physical shutter and ability to address individual pixels in something other than rote sequence.
That's not how a GS sensor works, sorry.
No, but with a little software tweeking it could take 5 differently exposed pictures at 24 fps per set and do the registration and processing in camera. It may just depend on chip speed. This is exciting. 🎉
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canons mk2, 3 now canon R5 (with all the Tech ive been waiting for is now here) been waiting for Sony to push this Tech and break the sync speed issue,
Keep it up,
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998K! That's a very sweep spot to be in!
I never did worry about my shutter wearing out, but cool camera. Sounds like this is for sports and event photographers mostly.
Sony is clearly ahead of the competition. Amazing job.
This is amazing! I'll probably be able to pick one of these up by the time the a9 vi comes out :)
Global shutter is why I got the Fuji X-H2S. Video looks amazing.
As a real estate photographer, I'm excited to add this tool to my kit. The high-speed shutter sync allows me to achieve flambient shots at a higher speed without compromising flash power. Appreciate the insights from this excellent video!
Never seen “flambient” before. Perfect term!
People who are charging money for photos and feel like they need this laundry-list of crutches and computer-aid to take decent photos probably should find a new line of work.
@@alphaforce6998 How did you assume I'm that kind of guy? It's clear that a professional photographer with a cheap camera can capture better photos compared to an amateur with a high-end one. But what if the pro, who photographs five properties a day, discovers that a new gear can enhance the quality of his work even a little bit?
@@alexk574 Are you really struggling to take pictures of inanimate objects, where the biggest asset is going to be a tripod and timing (for ideal daylight)?
I've seen people who take crap photos charge money, and people who take great photos do it for fun. There's not assurance of quality just because someone is charging a fee.
@@alphaforce6998 I'm not struggling, Mr. Ansel Adams. All I'm saying is, as an artist, if there's gear that betters my work, I'll use it. If you don't get it, well, that's why I charge $300 per hour and you don't!
I am very confused on how you haven't heard of 8 stop of stabilisation before? Most cameras with IBIS paired with a stabilised lens produces 8 stops of stabilisation.
@@rbrtmllr The slide literally says 5 stops IBIS and references the lens that was used to achieve this 8 stops of stabilisation at the bottom...
The first camera I heard claim 8 stops is the new Hassy xd2
@@jacobbatterham fair enough. I removed my comment
This rating is just in camera.
@taylorhickman84 different market but yes the hasselblad X2D has 7 stops of in body image stabilisation and it works incredibly well.
2,000 to go until the 1,000,000 milestone!!!! I didn't even subscribe to this channel but did when I realized how close he was to 1 million.
Thank you Andy Roddick!
Just a head up for those using flashs. This is fantastic but not as big as you might think, the flash duration of most flash is (t.5 and t.1) is pretty long, in practice anything under 1/1250s is hitting the diminishing return. This is based on my tests using leaf shutter cameras.
Thank you. Seems 99% of people think this make existing flashes into something amazing when all of these flashes can't take advantage of the insane shutter/ flash sync speeds
That's not really the exciting feature this enables. High speed 'splash' photography often requires 1/4000 ~ 1/8000 exposure time. All you want is the flash head supplying full power at the time of exposure. You still need a powerful flash to make up for the short exposure time, but at least the camera shutter speed isn't a constraint. ...so it is really BIG news for those that need super short duration exposures.
Electronic shutter is faster than any leaf shutter so I think your 1/1250 is off the mark. A limit of leaf shutter cameras maybe.
Ahhh don't spoil Sony's marketing BS with facts. They like building cameras no one needs and convince everybody it's the stuff you need.
Well, that diminishing return happens exactly because the peak brightness of a flash happens long way before t.1 of your slow shutter. With the global shutter you get the full brightness at any speed. So your tests are pretty unrelated to the subject.
I agree with this 100%!! Global shutter literally blew the entire competition away. Almost thought Sony stopped innovating after they push the envelope with the first full frame mirrorless camera. Now they push the competition even further with Global shutter!!
Great video. Tons of meat and no fluff.
Im so excited for this camera
Global shutters really isn't new, it's been available since CMOS were introduced. The issues is that it doesn't scale well with the size of the sensor. the bandwidth required for reading every pixel at the same time is massive, so is the actual footprint of the bus between the image processor and the sensor. Even with 24MP would be very surprised if it's a true global shutter I don't see Sony doing 24 million traces that simply isn't possible. My best guess would be is that instead doing a rolling readout line by line they have some sort of a mosaic readout where pixels are read in one by one but in a checkerboard pattern which would remove most rolling shutter effects since you read out an even distribution of pixel across the frame rather than a single horizontal slice at a time.
This, we use 12MP global shutter cameras for work and they've been around for a while. Very cool to see it expand to this state though.
True global shutter dumps the charge of the pixel-well into the sense node, then reads it out in a serial way. The point is that integration happens simultaneously for all pixels, and is decoupled from the read-out. This also means that exposure and read-out don’t overlap, unlike in rolling shutter. Sony is likely using stacked sensor with the read-out circuitry on the bottom die, with the sense nodes being directly underneath the photodiodes. There is also a fake GS that some cheap CMOS employ, which removes some of the rolling shutter artifacts.
fuji did this with a different way (which is actually an old way). it is "leaf shutter". x100 series has leaf shutter
Leaf shutter generally have a max shutter speed of 1/500 with some more recent shutter reaching 1/1000 depending on the size of the format.
Leaf shutter like X100 series and Leica Q have limitation as mentioned above. Even at F8 you might be limited to 1/2000 shutter speed only.
Not full frame
wow. this is incredible
bad ass. and great breakdown.
I'm surprised they're still limited to a horizontal rectangular sensor. Lenses are circular, they should have a circular sensor so you can save any format you want (circular photo, square, landscape, portrait).
At least a square but with a circle sensor they could do roll stabilization with no limits like a 360 camera.
Shooting vertical or horizontal without turning the camera would be crazy.
I am so glad people get exited about this break through technology. Who will benefit from this? and what do you want to shoot at 1/80 000, how long does the buffer last? what will it do to noise and heat? We will again see some great unused A9ii's dropping into the used market, a perfect camera. But trust the use case for A9iii users will be happy.
Wow.. Well done Sony! I'd love to see the inside architecture of their chip...
Thank You
I have the a7r5 and I believe it’s 8 stop ibis also. As a landscape photographer I’ve stopped using a tripod due to that. I can hand hold a second up to 2 seconds leaning on something. Amazing tech Sony is bringing and executing right. The a9iii is ridiculous
CAnon been saying 8 stop for years.
Remarkable our friend JUST HEARD OF IT NOW....fstopper is trying too hard to sell SONY
@@rosetzu_nagasawa Man not everybody is conspiring or trying to get you.
CANON HAVE’S 8 STOP ONLY TO SYNC TO OPTICAL STAPILIZATIONS. SONY HAVES 8 STOP STRAIGHT TO BODY.@@rosetzu_nagasawa
@@rosetzu_nagasawa Canon's IBIS is just not as effective as Sony's or Panasonic's.
@@vjoncreatives3808 yes, but Canon Claimed 8 stops YEARS AGO,
and this joker says THIS IS FIRST 8 stops claimed.
The further we advance photography tech, the further we distance ourselves from the art of photography. This is why we don't have as many great photographers as we did in the film days. All photographers need to keep this in-mind. We're unlearning photography as we rely on tech more.
Sounds like a great way to learn about the other possible issues.
Однажды изобретут камеру, которая сама сможет ходить, снимать и делать в итоге превосходные фото и видео. Но вот в чем проблема: по-настоящему по-человечески прекрасных снимков, сделанных людьми, будет всё столь же мало.
The Z9 has no shutter, and had a pre-burst option - that literally allowed you to capture images BEFORE you pressed the shutter. Sounds like the Sony has improved on what Nikon had previously accomplished.
Nikons new sensors are made by Sony.
The Z9 sensor top to bottom sensor readout time is 5ms. A global shutter does not read top to bottom. Global reads all the data at once.
A very different operation to the Z9.
@@betodeth I’m not sure that the sensor manufacturer makes a difference. For example, Apple silicon is made by TSMC but the reason it’s so good is because Apple integrates high quality components into a class leading product. Same with Nikon.
@@georgemalczynski50% of an iPhones chips and components are made by Samsung, as is the Oled screen.
@@georgemalczynski but the readout times depends of the technology on the sensor. It’s the main piece of a camera.
This is nuts. Great work sony
My dream camera... 😊
Agree, this is the biggest advancement in digital photography since the invention of digital photography.
Time for photogs to learn what Flash T times are.
They will be learning the hard way as soon as these cameras get out into the field!
Thank you.
Physical shutter is also rolling shutter on high speed shots... ;)
This is so, so huge for videography. $6k is probably a bit too much for a lot of videographers, but when this global shutter comes to the A7 and A7S, LOOK OUT. Wow. This is going to be really huge. I'm betting Canon and Panasonic will follow in the coming years too.
The only thing I noticed that was a gamechanger for Sony, was Weather Protection. Everything else won't change a thing. You won't make any more money out of this upgrade. Although, It's a solid upgrade. But for gearheads and video freaks, it might be on their top list of wants and must haves. I could se that. Focus breathing is something everybody struggles with now and then. But will it being compensated, actually change your workflow?
For those who use big flashes to allow HSS or Hyper Sync, this will mean smaller flashes. It also means not having to carry ND filters if you don’t rely on that flash technology. It also means you could carry a few smaller speed lights vs bigger strobes. It also means you can now easily photograph your bride and groom at any time of day without worrying about “bad” light. It changes a ton for photographers who use flash.
Also wasn’t Sony the first to release a mirrorless camera? They’ve already changed the camera landscape quite a lot -P
Okay Steve Ballmer. You can go hangout with Blockbuster and Kodak while Sony hangs out with Steve Jobs and Samsung.
This is super exiting and I can't believe it!!! What's a rolling shutter?
Hello thank you it's very so much awesome.i love Sony.
My only concerns are the buffer since they missed the chance to integrate an SSD and 2: yes you can sync your flash at high shutter speeds but you would need a strobe unit that is more expensive than the camera to be able to have a reasonable light output. If Sony could launch a grip with an SSD they could fix the data bottleneck issue (unless those cards can handle 120fps in long bursts). My third concern is obviously the dynamic range, but I guess we will see pretty soon. What is amazing is that finally you get no rolling shutter in video!
It used CFExpress which is as fast as any NVME SSD over 3000mbps, the buffer is fine
@@CallMeRabbitzUSVIit uses cf express A, which is a slower than the type B
@@garyrowe58 You're correct I wasn't aware of the difference, that might be a problem
One of the reasons why they stopped at 24 MP
I never cared about global shutter because I thought it was an issue that only applied to videographers. Understanding what this means for flash photography really has me excited.
Leaf shutters allow flash sync at any speed, from what I understand.
@@gFamWeb Yeah, but most leaf shutters go up to only 1/500 sec. You see claims about medium-format cameras that allow sync speeds up to 1/2000... but only at small apertures, where the shutter leaves don't need to open all the way. I agree, though, that most of the people getting excited about shooting flash at 1/80,000 don't realize what they're getting into; once the camera's capture duration gets shorter than the flash's duration, your flash will start acting like a continuous light and increasing shutter speeds will eat away at your flash power just as much as it's eating away at the ambient light. The only people who really have a feel for this are old-timers who remember shooting with long-peak "class FP" flash bulbs...
It applies to still photography too. But it takes something moving very fast for it to be noticeable.
@@gFamWeb Yes but those lenses are only in medium format
I own the FX6 and the new G Mast 70-200mm 2.8 II. I've been waiting to buy the A7IV, but now this A9III has me very interested in where this tech will be placed next
The flash sync speed feature is pretty amazing.
LOL 24 Megapixels?! It's basically a m4/3 sensor and has the same problems with noise and low light. RIP Low light and Dynamic Range. There's always a trade off.
It's a 36x24 sensor. Not 17x13. What the fuck are you talking about?
Still waiting for someone to create a camera with a circular [or octagonal] sensor so I can choose whether I want a photo to be widescreen, landscape, portrait, square (or even a circle/octagon) in post.
That's gonna use up so much more wafer.
This is why people should respect Sony... From the transistor radio, to the walkman ect..
Looks promising!
I will say we already had two cameras with no physical shutter. The Sony A9 III is revolutionary, no need to give it first that it does not have. Typicaly global shutter cuts on dynamic range. The camera base iso is 250 maybe below that range the DR was not good. It's not a problem, on the other hand, most of the time because you can shoot at 1/80000 it's just amazing. One can have problems when we want to blur water, for example, on a sunny day: back to ND filters. The AF performance since to come from a different planet and has 120fps. They decided to stay with Type A cards, so the buffer is about one second. The Hasslelbads can Sync at any shutter speed, but the max shutter is limited to 1/2000 or 1/4000
What do you mean by cut on dynamic range? Can you please elaborate
I don't see how the global shutter cuts dynamic range, if all else is kept the same between global and standard, all that is changing is how the read out from the pixels occurs, the data including the dynamic range shouldn't change.
You do realise you don't have to shoot at 1/80,000 of a second? water blur is already an issue if you don't have an ND filter and its a sunny day.
What I would be interested in is what kind of exposure do you get at 1/80,000 of a second, i imagine outside of using flash and or the brightest part of a sunny day, such a limit would almost be overkill, not complaining though
@@mcbean1It's more complicated, and there are impacts to dynamic range, unless Sony has found a workaround
@@matsudakodo couldn't the workaround simple be have every pixel collect and transfer the data at the same time, as opposed to line by line?
@@mcbean1 that is the definition of a global shutter
Hats off to Sony but I would be remissed if I didn't mention your old brand Nikon introduced a couple full frame 45mp cameras that don't have a mechanical shutter at all over the past couple years in the Z9 and Z8. Obviously they're not quite up to a global shutter on this 24mp camera that Sony is releasing but at twice the mp they're doing pretty good. As well they have some pretty good auto focus_ but look if you're happy with the Mac OS and you love your Sony cameras I say go for it man. I don't like their colors or ergonomics but at the end of the day they're just another multinational corporation looking to gain as much market share as possible. If I don't buy a Sony camera I'm sure they'll be just fine ... the next question is do their competitors have to lease this technology or develop their own?? I suppose time will tell. Ps. I see a bunch of RED camera folks here. I know that red lost that 8k raw lawsuit against Nikon but am hoping we can still all get along 😇
For this camera to get rid of the moray flicker, that’s freaking amazing. Wow!
Amazing
Focus breathing is the MOST overrated problem
For still yes, but video is more problematic. -P