THE ENGLISH COUNTRYSIDE • FOX HUNTING

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  • Опубліковано 2 вер 2023
  • Join us for a fascinating look at the old sport of fox hunting in England. SPOILER ALERT: The fox wins. Controlling the population of foxes in rural areas where sheep are a livelihood is an important part of land and livestock management, and the sport of fox hunting helps to manage the environment. An inside look at the sport. From the HorseTV Global Archives.

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  • @MizMissiB
    @MizMissiB 8 місяців тому +18

    I’ve done mounted field trials with bird dogs but never done fox hunting. They may do it somewhere in the US but not where I’m from. Field trials were wonderful. Watching the dogs work while being one with your horse over all types of terrain, you can’t imagine it, you just have to do it

    • @danielw5850
      @danielw5850 8 місяців тому +2

      I believe there are hunts in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

    • @MizMissiB
      @MizMissiB 8 місяців тому +1

      @@danielw5850 I’m in Texas now. I used to live in Michigan. We played a lot of polo up there as well as the field trials. In East Texas there’s a lot of Dressage and Hunter/Jumper competitions but where I’m at, all they have is Rodeo and Ranch work. Nowadays I just use my horses for working cattle

    • @b79holmes
      @b79holmes 8 місяців тому

      I was going to say the same thing, Virginia but I bet a lot them are just sent hunts. There are a few clubs in MA but again all drag hunts. None of the participants could handle killing a fox nowadays.

    • @merryarttoonesakamarysusan559
      @merryarttoonesakamarysusan559 8 місяців тому

      @@danielw5850i hunted in fairfax county virginia as a young women ...could only go once as a guest as its an expensive sport ...went on my little 14 hand quarter horse mare ...i was wonderfully mad and both horse and i were sore the next day

    • @Elaine-pl9pu
      @Elaine-pl9pu 7 місяців тому +4

      @@danielw5850 do they allow the dogs to shred the foxes. These monsters dig the foxes out and throw them to the dogs to chew up. As bad as fog fights and rooster fights.

  • @stephanmenzel9457
    @stephanmenzel9457 9 місяців тому +13

    As an prof. rider / coachman in entire life I never mounted a scruffy horse or coach in dirty boots or clothes. Well done, Sir, thanks a lot. Congreats from Germany

    • @HorseTVGlobal
      @HorseTVGlobal  9 місяців тому +6

      There is a pleasing social correctness in carriage driving and fox hunting that refreshes your soul, knowing your turnout is impeccable, traditional, and correct in every regard. We discovered a beautiful mother of pearl and brass umbrella "handle" in an antique store and wanted to pair it with an umbrella for our wicker umbrella basket. Umbrellas around the turn of the century were originally wooden shafts, not the contemporary aluminum shafts we see today. We searched probably over a hundred antique stores for an umbrella with a wooden shaft before finding one. I knew the chances of a judge looking closely at the umbrella in the wicker basket were next to nil, but I had the personal satisfaction of knowing the appointment was technically correct for the time period of the carriage. Detail and pride count for something.

    • @brownson1970
      @brownson1970 8 місяців тому

      your soul is fulfilled by ripping an animal to bits? mmmm, thank god you are going under at a rapid rate, poor hounds too, of course there are many ex hounds rehoming trusts??? he says it all 'they thought I was a nutter' inbred slime, a family fox hunting tree with ZERO BRANCHES, go back to the 18th century...

    • @brownson1970
      @brownson1970 8 місяців тому

      just complete piffle that means less than zero in this day and age...@@HorseTVGlobal

  • @jennylea8687
    @jennylea8687 8 місяців тому +26

    My grandfather, Henry Lea, worked on his great-aunt Shrigley's farm, Brockenden Grange, in Warwickshire, from about 1888-90, before emigrating to South Africa. He wrote an autobiography, 'A Veld Farmer's Adventures', in which he described the excitement and joy of the hunt.

    • @Elaine-pl9pu
      @Elaine-pl9pu 8 місяців тому +4

      People used to do a great many barbaric things.

    • @themaximilianshow7167
      @themaximilianshow7167 8 місяців тому

      @@Elaine-pl9puand people like you should go and live your mundane townie life and leave us agris alone

    • @jennylea8687
      @jennylea8687 8 місяців тому

      They still do. Everywhere. @@Elaine-pl9pu

    • @haydenbretton2990
      @haydenbretton2990 7 місяців тому +2

      The majority of the "Hunt" are there to enjoy the parade, the majority too have compassion for their horses and jog along in the hunt.

    • @KrisSmith-es9vk
      @KrisSmith-es9vk 7 місяців тому +1

      @jennylea8687 and you seem very proud of him...I imagine he touched children also. Sick man

  • @stephanmenzel9457
    @stephanmenzel9457 9 місяців тому +6

    ,,.... und mitten im Reiten, aus Sonnenweiten, erreicht dich DER RUF.
    Der, der dich schuf, ruft linde nach dir.
    Und was du gelebt, das Alles entschwebt, wird Feuer und Schwung, der Jubel im Sprung, das letzte Funkeln im Bügeltrunk und das lachende Wissen, daß der Herrgott uns liebt, solang es auf Erden die Pferde gibt!"

    • @HorseTVGlobal
      @HorseTVGlobal  9 місяців тому +2

      Vielen Dank, dass Sie Ihre Sichtweise geteilt haben. Wir freuen uns, von Ihnen zu hören.

  • @pixie706
    @pixie706 8 місяців тому +5

    I've worked in several hunt kennels over many years and while admiring hound work have grown to loathe followers. Most of them use it as a mobile party and take no interest in the proceedings.

  • @sallysteffen69
    @sallysteffen69 9 місяців тому +11

    Such a wonderful colourful film, thanks for sharing

  • @wolftal1178
    @wolftal1178 5 місяців тому +8

    Hunts actually help foxes ironically, often the Foxes would escape from the hunts. They will always have a chance to survive. It was a good way of simulating natural selection. foxes were never meant to be the main predator in Britain, but unfortunately we hunted the other predators to extinction meaning, bears, wolves and even boars would go for them. But since they were hunted to extinction, the fox numbers have grown exponentially, and even started overlapping into urban areas and by extension have done horrific damage to the ecosystem. And I’m not meaning pheasants, I’m meaning about actual endangered species of birds and even causing danger to the reintroduced beaver, and even household pets like small dogs, cats and that’s not including the hundreds of lambs they kill every year and thousands of chickens needlessly. When they go into a chicken coop, they do not simply kill one and go away. They kill every single one in there and only take one away to eat it. The fox hunt was a perfect simulation of a wolf chase where wolves would hunt the fox off to kill it. 19 times out of 20. The Fox would always get away. Only the old and the sick would actually get caught. It also served as a deterrent for a fox going into a certain area as the hunt would often frighten them out. And caused them to be far more cautious around human areas, again causing them to be far more selective of their territory. All this needless death of foxes only happened when the fox hunt was actually removed. The Foxhunt would only kill about 250 foxes throughout Britain a year, but now without it, the fox numbers are blowing exponentially, we are now forced to kill thousands a year unnaturally instead by guns, poison and snares.
    (people actually called the hunt Cruel?)
    I don’t like the idea of killing animals, needlessly, or for pleasure. I was never a fan of gentlemen hunting foxes purely because they liked the idea of killing something, but from a naturalist viewpoint I can actually see the benefits it caused in keeping numbers down in a far more natural way.
    People will say I’m cruel for saying this?
    When you live in the country and your animals are being killed by foxes needlessly, when your cats and dogs don’t come back at night, when you find that your 20 chickens have been killed by a single fox, or you walk along a field lane and see a lamb with its throat ripped out. you generally don’t have much sympathy for foxes. My grandfather used to hunt with the hounds. And I remember in my childhood, although there were foxes around, they generally were terrified of coming anywhere near human dwellings. It would be rare if a fox actually came near our livestock. But since the Fox hunt has been stopped, we have had no end of needless killing by the foxes. They are not a sweet little creature that runs around like humans. They can be heartless killers. the foxhunt for the most part only frightens them out. It was rare if they ever actually would catch a fox.

    • @AlexanderTheEvenGreater
      @AlexanderTheEvenGreater 4 місяці тому +2

      Spot on!

    • @wolftal1178
      @wolftal1178 4 місяці тому +2

      @@AlexanderTheEvenGreater thank you, although I’m probably going to just be called a fox murderer. 🤔🧐🤨😒

    • @AlexanderTheEvenGreater
      @AlexanderTheEvenGreater 4 місяці тому +2

      @@wolftal1178 👍👍👍👍👍 Don't listen to the antis who have never been in a chicken run after a fox attack. Their knowledge of ecology comes from Chris Packham's Springwatch at best.😥
      Keep on hunting!
      👍🦊

    • @wolftal1178
      @wolftal1178 4 місяці тому +1

      @@AlexanderTheEvenGreater well I mean, try and explain it to townies that have never been in the country in their life. They call us cruel, but let’s be honest have they actually seen what a fox can do to a farm?

    • @AlexanderTheEvenGreater
      @AlexanderTheEvenGreater 4 місяці тому +1

      @@wolftal1178 Of course not! 😆

  • @johnsmith-ht3sy
    @johnsmith-ht3sy 7 місяців тому +6

    I live in an English town, foxes are abundant in the towns, even in central London, I see them mainly at night running around living off of waste food from humans. They follow the the dustbin collections all week, opening bin bags.
    Seen many a dead fox run over by cars, I know two drivers that swerved to avoid hitting a fox and rolled their cars. Funny thing is there is never confrontations between domestic pets, dogs or cats. Chicken coops are not safe. I can assure you they are not an endangered species.
    They have a horrible bark, and can scream just like a human being killed.
    I did once go fox hunting in Minehead, sat stationary on a hill and watched the hounds pick up a sent , track it straight into the town. Then the Master would bring the hounds out of the town, only for it to be repeated. Waste of time, the foxes were living off town food.

    • @shadow14805
      @shadow14805 6 місяців тому +2

      Chicken coops are safe as long they're not abysmally designed. There are plenty of easy protective measures you can take to stop foxes from getting in. You're just an irresponsible chicken owner otherwise. Foxes don't deserve to be tortured just because they are inconvenient, real fox hunting is a ruthless and unethical practice, unless I am allowed to apply that same logic to other humans.

    • @Jumper4ever93
      @Jumper4ever93 5 місяців тому

      you're men tally sikc. See a psychiatrist.@@shadow14805

    • @AlexanderTheEvenGreater
      @AlexanderTheEvenGreater 4 місяці тому +1

      @@shadow14805 But the animal rights advocates say (quite rightly) that free-range farming is much better and healthier for the animals...
      But then they claim that chickens should be enclosed more securely instead of foxes being culled. You can't win with these people.

    • @shadow14805
      @shadow14805 4 місяці тому

      @@AlexanderTheEvenGreater Foxes are mostly nocturnal. They are not active 24-7. They may be more actuve during the day during mating season and fog, but the presence of humans very easily deterrs them. No reason to get rid of free-range chickens, my beliefs do not contradict animal right's activists. Securely enclose them in the evening and at night, let them run-around in the day, like we do with almost every other animal under our care. When the sun goes down we put horses in their stables, cats in the house, and chickens in their coop. It's really just common sense that should be applied way more often to diurnal pets and farm animals. It makes them all significantly safer.

    • @katiepitts2662
      @katiepitts2662 4 місяці тому

      You do understand the brutality of most uk fox hunts

  • @stephanmenzel9457
    @stephanmenzel9457 9 місяців тому +10

    Great video. Wonderful hounds, barking on scent-track, exellent houndsmen know-how, excellent horsemanship and riding-skills. Thanks a lot and Congreats from Germany

    • @user-vh6ts9uf6c
      @user-vh6ts9uf6c 8 місяців тому +8

      "scent track" - yeah, we believe you (rolls eyes)

    • @rosemarydudley9954
      @rosemarydudley9954 7 місяців тому

      Maida143 ... fyi Hounds to NOT "bark" they speak.

  • @user-gc3lm2nh7b
    @user-gc3lm2nh7b 8 місяців тому +3

    Can anyone tell me roughly when this documentary was made?

    • @HorseTVGlobal
      @HorseTVGlobal  8 місяців тому +8

      We went way back into the Archives for this one. At the end of the episode in the credits, the production year was listed in Roman Numerals as MCMLXXXVII, which converts to the year 1987. Hope this helps.

    • @user-gc3lm2nh7b
      @user-gc3lm2nh7b 8 місяців тому +4

      @@HorseTVGlobal Oh bless you, thank you so much for your reply! It's such a shame so many people today, are so ignorant about these rural country pursuits! I have hunted myself a few times, (side saddle) and there is nothing to beat it!

    • @neilburlingham8892
      @neilburlingham8892 5 місяців тому

      80s by the looks of it

    • @neilburlingham8892
      @neilburlingham8892 5 місяців тому

      ​@HorseTVGlobal sure that this was on video by the bfss fox hunting if not mistaken

  • @phubblewubbphubblewubb
    @phubblewubbphubblewubb 8 місяців тому +12

    Hunting with packs has been banned in England for some time now but it still goes on under the radar.

    • @joannebowler8289
      @joannebowler8289 7 місяців тому +6

      It’s been replaced by drag hunting, so you now follow the scent that’s dragged around by someone usually on a quad bike. Sometimes the hounds pick up the scent of a fox but it’s not intentional.

    • @stabes70
      @stabes70 7 місяців тому +5

      😂😂 utter B/S

    • @joannebowler8289
      @joannebowler8289 7 місяців тому +4

      @@stabes70 and you been hunting how many times🤔

    • @megajohnson1984
      @megajohnson1984 7 місяців тому +4

      It’s not under the radar it’s in full view! The issue is allot of judges and chief of police hunt

    • @rosemarydudley9954
      @rosemarydudley9954 7 місяців тому +2

      @@joannebowler8289 Usually an anniseed scent, hounds love that. Also it's difficult to keep doing the same route as it destroys the farm land being used over and over again.

  • @thomasharrison72
    @thomasharrison72 6 місяців тому +1

    Still don't understand why walking huntsmen wear riding hats ??

  • @richardgreen7811
    @richardgreen7811 4 місяці тому +2

    Keep up the great work and please keep the videos flowing. And to the protesters, don't forget ... "the meek shall inherit the hoof".

  • @robhayes6121
    @robhayes6121 5 місяців тому +3

    Thought Fox hunting was banned 🤷‍♂️it is, so why is it still taking place.

    • @HorseTVGlobal
      @HorseTVGlobal  5 місяців тому +2

      This episode is from the Archives and was filmed in 1987, about 36 years ago.

    • @AlexanderTheEvenGreater
      @AlexanderTheEvenGreater 4 місяці тому

      Trail hunting is still legal.

  • @nancysmith-baker1813
    @nancysmith-baker1813 8 місяців тому +9

    This was excellent , thankyou.

  • @equine2020
    @equine2020 3 місяці тому +2

    The clueless should stay quiet.
    And condem all animal abuse. Other hunters.

  • @jamesdibben3290
    @jamesdibben3290 8 місяців тому +5

    The Fox that got away will be wiser and the species stronger for the chase which seeing has we do not have any wolfs is a good thing

  • @justinneill5003
    @justinneill5003 6 місяців тому +4

    Of all the arguments that are put forward to support fox hunting, can we please at least dispense with the "population control" nonsense? Less than half of hunting days result in a kill, so over a season, even if meeting 4 times a week (which is at the top end of frequency) the average hunt will account for less than 50 foxes, probably considerably less but let's call it 50 to take cubbing into account. Meanwhile, the average litter of cubs is 6, so it would require only 9 vixens to become pregnant within the boundaries of any given hunt for the annual birth rate to surpass 50. Obviously the actual number of pregnancies in any given area is at least 10 times that, so the attrition rate from hunting is less than a tenth of the number of cubs being born, and probably far less. So the idea of fox hunting as an effective means of population control is clearly ludicrous. As a lifelong horseman myself, I totally understand the "buzz" of riding to hounds, and yes I admit to having participated myself in years gone by; there's really nothing like it. But as with all things, there has to be a limit to the acceptable collateral cost of pursuing personal pleasure, and with the advent of "hunting the clean boot" (as with the increasing number of bloodhound packs that are emerging) there really is no longer a valid argument for the longer term continuity of hunting foxes ("unintentionally" or otherwise) in this manner.

  • @robertferguson533
    @robertferguson533 8 місяців тому +8

    Beautiful Dogs doing their thing

    • @rosemarydudley9954
      @rosemarydudley9954 7 місяців тому +2

      robertferguson ... Peeeerlees, HOUNDS not "dogs", I agree they are a sight to behold.

    • @robertferguson533
      @robertferguson533 7 місяців тому

      @@rosemarydudley9954 I’ve got 4 of them sleeping on the couch right now

  • @rosemarydudley9954
    @rosemarydudley9954 7 місяців тому +2

    `After hunting, our horses had linseed and barley mash which was slow cooked for about 5-6 hours. Add some bran and a spoon of salt. Could almost eat it myself!

  • @melvyn2946
    @melvyn2946 7 місяців тому +5

    Watching this makes me wonder WTF as happened to our beautiful country I am not proud to be a British citizen even though I was born n bred here all those poor people who died in WW1 and WWR2 would be turning in there graves if they saw the state our country as become

    • @fion1flatout
      @fion1flatout 7 місяців тому +3

      It is so sad, the best bits have been destroyed

    • @jkoysza1
      @jkoysza1 6 місяців тому

      Not just Britain, the yobs are ruining life in USA, AUS, NZ.
      Add to that, heavy immigration of culturally different people, and you have a recipe for a vastly different society. Doesn't seem to be any remedy. Look at Sweden. A best-in-world country ruined.

  • @juliehambrook4006
    @juliehambrook4006 6 місяців тому +3

    There really is nothing to compare to the sound of the hounds when on the scent. I loved to spend the day hunting. Nothing like a good horse and a pack of hounds to follow.

  • @andylyon3867
    @andylyon3867 8 місяців тому +8

    Looks like a money pit, I have hunted foxes with one beagle while on foot, good beagle will go right down into the den.

    • @shadow14805
      @shadow14805 6 місяців тому

      Why do you want to hurt foxes? For fun?

    • @AlexanderTheEvenGreater
      @AlexanderTheEvenGreater 4 місяці тому

      @@shadow14805 Argue with Darwin if you like. It's called selective pest control. Look up the mesopredator release hypothesis.

  • @g-max1808
    @g-max1808 8 днів тому

    I am a lover of Foxes and do not wish to hunt them

  • @user-wg1dg6dp6q
    @user-wg1dg6dp6q 4 місяці тому +1

    Finaly some nature and no people saying its bad

  • @jaramillo6012
    @jaramillo6012 7 місяців тому +4

    Ese deporte me parece cruel ! Y no considero deporte un acto de ésos...

    • @rosemarydudley9954
      @rosemarydudley9954 7 місяців тому +2

      yeniaminvf ... have you ever seen a field of sheep with about 50 lambs dessicrated? Torn to shreds and not eaten...obviously not.

    • @vpcha
      @vpcha 6 місяців тому +1

      where was the shepherd ? sleeping or being drunk @@rosemarydudley9954

    • @equine2020
      @equine2020 3 місяці тому

      What do you think of hun/bow hunters. They let injured animals crawl off to die a slow painful death
      Or the trappers using cruel leg hold traps. Animals in constant pain. Scared. Even chewing off their leg to get free.

  • @MusicDoctor77
    @MusicDoctor77 4 місяці тому +4

    No jobs, these hunts men, they need soming better to spend their time doing.

    • @AlexanderTheEvenGreater
      @AlexanderTheEvenGreater 4 місяці тому +1

      Why? Why are you telling other people what jobs to have?

    • @noelkeane5603
      @noelkeane5603 2 місяці тому +1

      Yea, sitting in front of tvs, wearing hush puppies slippers, having tea and biscuits, while watching friendly Freddie Fox, Gussy Goose and Bugs Bunny cartoons. Give me a break!! Very soon, we’ll be prosecuted for swatting house flies. It’s becoming a very petty little world governed by a petty coat brigade.

    • @AlexanderTheEvenGreater
      @AlexanderTheEvenGreater 2 місяці тому

      @@noelkeane5603 Spot on.

  • @johngreene3376
    @johngreene3376 7 місяців тому +34

    What happens when the fox goes into his den or the dogs catch up with him. The fox is left to the dogs, they rip every internal organ out of him, guts pulled all over tge field , the foxes cry as he is being ripped apart from a pack of dogs. Do ye call that sport, i witnessed it , its not sport , ripping a live animal apart is not a sport!!!

    • @user-bv4ln7eu8h
      @user-bv4ln7eu8h 5 місяців тому +12

      Grizzly bears, hyenas, lions, komodos, chimpanzees, baboons, cats, dogs have entered the chat.

    • @johngreene3376
      @johngreene3376 5 місяців тому

      @@user-bv4ln7eu8h fool

    • @Lifter4life217
      @Lifter4life217 5 місяців тому

      @@user-bv4ln7eu8hwhat does those animals way of killing have to do with this? By your logic it should be okay to rape other men because “lions have entered the chat” 😂 you clown lmao

    • @hbhkennel918
      @hbhkennel918 5 місяців тому +11

      If you don't like it, don't watch it. No one asked for your opinions or lies for that matter.

    • @gerardmurphy1441
      @gerardmurphy1441 5 місяців тому +3

      Still hunting 2024 ,tally ho😊

  • @RuanthGrain
    @RuanthGrain 5 місяців тому +1

    The only time i like dogs: