Geotechnical Analysis of Foundations

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  • Our understanding of soil mechanics has drastically improved over the last 100 years. This video investigates a geotechnical foundation failure that happened as a result of lack of knowledge and poor site investigation. With our understanding of soil mechanics today we completely explain what went wrong. The failure in question is the Transcona Grain Elevator in Winnipeg, Canada that failed during its first filling in 1913. The explanation lies in understanding foundation design principles and bearing capacity which is what the video is mostly revolving around. The video attempts to explain these concepts in an intuitive and easily understandable way.
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    References:
    [1] A. M. Puzrin, E. E. Alonso and N. M. Pinyol, Geomechanics of Failure, New York: Springer, 2010.
    [2] A. Allaire, "The Failure and Righting of a Million-Bushel Grain Elevator," American Society of Civil Engineers, 1916.
    [3] J. Blatz and K. Skaftfeld, "The Transcona Grain Elevator Failure: A Modern Perspective 90 Years Later," in Canadian Geotechnical Conference, Winnipeg, 2003.
    [4] D. P. Coduto, M.-c. R. Yeung and W. A. Kitch, Geotechnical Engineering Principles and Practices, Pearson, 2011.
    [5] G. Wichers, "Manitoba Co-operator," 26 November 2021. [Online]. Available: www.manitobacooperator.ca/far.... [Accessed 20 December 2022].
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  • @BrilliantDesignOnline
    @BrilliantDesignOnline Рік тому +226

    I think we all would be totally interested to see the engineering of righting the grain bins. This video was very educational, because I was not aware of how the shear plane forms.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Рік тому +3

      what happen Putin happened there🤣

    • @gordswaitkewich940
      @gordswaitkewich940 Рік тому +3

      There is several videos. 1 has actual photos from the righting of the silos

    • @amosbackstrom5366
      @amosbackstrom5366 Рік тому +3

      I second this please

    • @IoDavide1
      @IoDavide1 10 місяців тому

      I think it is ridicolous dont understand this in 40 seconds...

  • @marsaustralis6881
    @marsaustralis6881 Рік тому +120

    This is somewhat similar to what could have happened at my old University. They were planning a big, major campus upgrade. The old veteran geologist professor warned the construction survey team of the ground condition at the planned site and that their proposed foundation would not hold and that they would need to dig deeper for the concrete rebar piles and further down for the foundation. They brushed him off and began laying the piles and foundation, only for the ground to give in in some places as they were drilling the holes for the piles and de-level the early parts of the foundation being set (that layer of dirt and rock meant to be flattened and built on top of). They were forced to correct their mistakes at their expense, which delayed the grand opening of the new science hall by a year as a more comprehensive survey was done, which ended up matching the old geologist professor's claims.

    • @ginnyjollykidd
      @ginnyjollykidd Рік тому +9

      Indeed! My Alma Mater University of Louisville has a Physics building with many structural support columns in the basement because of the sediments underneath; without them, the building wouldn't stand but buckle and slide or worse.
      I don't know much about this, but here are my thoughts.
      The building has its wide face facing the street while it's narrow sides face perpendicular to the street. It sits on a hill that descends toward the street. It might be that the building is held up by the street itself: that the street and its heavy traffic provide pressure on that place that might otherwise buckle upward as the building pushes down.

    • @NigelTolley
      @NigelTolley Рік тому +21

      Imagine being dumb enough to think "Yeah, I did a 6 week course on this, what could the professor who taught the guy who taught me possibly know about his own back yard?"

    • @richardpowell1425
      @richardpowell1425 Рік тому +21

      The university I graduated from was hitby a major earthquake. Many of the buildings were condemned but the civil engineering department was fine. That was reassuring.

    • @Oberon4278
      @Oberon4278 10 місяців тому +2

      Ignore the advice of old men at your peril.

    • @mbox314
      @mbox314 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@Nigel Tolley many acidemics have no real world experience and are only able to recite a textbook.

  • @ericbainter826
    @ericbainter826 Рік тому +322

    It is amazing that they salvaged the silos, especially for that time period.

    • @aviphysics
      @aviphysics Рік тому +25

      I imagine it was somewhat similar to the lifting of buildings in Sacramento CA above the flood plain.
      That was done very carefully with lots of jacks and even while the businesses remained open.

    • @timhinchcliffe5372
      @timhinchcliffe5372 Рік тому +55

      I'd say they would of had a better chance back then as the structure would of been built alot stronger and _overengineered_ compared to today's leaner cost cutting engineering.

    • @stevebengel1346
      @stevebengel1346 Рік тому +27

      Think about what Galveston Texas did after the 1900 hurricane: they raised over 500 city blocks worth of buildings anywhere from 8 to 17 ft above existing grade as daily life went on around them.

    • @aviphysics
      @aviphysics Рік тому +11

      @@stevebengel1346 IIRC Seattle also did something similar. It seems like this was super common.

    • @BossSpringsteen69
      @BossSpringsteen69 Рік тому

      I was thinking of the same thing.

  • @numbnutz9398
    @numbnutz9398 Рік тому +58

    I grew up in South Transcona on the wrong side of the tracks ( or wrong side of the CN shops). I can concur that this is a very wet location. Every spring the floods would fill up the streets around my house. I have fond memories of floating around on rafts made from scrap wood or the occasional wooden bridge that floated away from someone's front sidewalk ( we had ditches on both sides of the road. Fun for the kids, but the parents were less impressed. If the city didn't get sand bags covering the manholes for the sewers in time we were treated to sewer backups in our basements. The city finally built a storage pond big enough to capture all the spring runoff which cured that problem.
    My parents bought a house here in the first phase of what was to be a subdivision of roughly 4500 houses. The tar roads and ditches were just temporary until the rest of the development was to be built with storm sewers and paved roads. That didn't happen and the original hundred or so home owners were screwed. No schools or shops or any amenities. They stopped when the developers found out how water logged and unsuitable this place was.
    The soil here is top soil on heavy clay with a gravely wet mix blow that. My father was digging out a hole (sink hole really ) in our front yard by the ditch. The shovel got stuck down in the hole and just got sucked in never to be seen again. Still there somewhere down below. I can see how a ,ess than perfect foundation would end in disaster here.
    Sorry for the long post but it isn't everyday a story that is literally in my childhood backyard comes up in my feed. Thanks for the video.

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  Рік тому +7

      Thank you for sharing numb, we appreciate stories from the locals. I am from a different part of Canada so never had the chance to visit Winnipeg but your description paints a very clear picture of what the geology/hydrology of the area is. Thank you, cheers!

    • @rubenenns7622
      @rubenenns7622 Рік тому +4

      ​@@TheEngineeringHub This was a case study that I got to hear and read about in our Geotechnical engineering textbook at the U of M. I always enjoy seeing something local like this unexpectedly.

  • @kerrykrishna
    @kerrykrishna Рік тому +41

    Geotechnical, I grew up in East End of Transcona, and had NO IDEA what this vid was about. I just saw a cool tilted structure! Something interesting for you maybe? Transcona was built on a dried out (for the most part) swamp. The entire suburb was once owned by a few farming families. There is a section about a mile and a half away that was a swamp when I was a kid. Freshwater springs brought water up to surface. In 60s, occasionally, the stupider kids (me?) would swim in there. When land prices increased. developers bought and drained the land, and rerouted the spring. Fast forward 20 years, and foundations were breaking on all the streets located above where the spring was. If I remember there were well over 100 houses involved. Imagine coming home after work, and you can't open your front door, as the door is jammed in the frame. This exact scenario played out over and over and over again. Developers denied all responsibility.

    • @BasementEngineer
      @BasementEngineer Рік тому +7

      KK: Of course they do, with some justification.
      The city (or county) building department reserves the legal right to review, AND APPROVE, all construction plans and drawings. Except for a garden shed below a certain size:-))
      Legally that means that some responsibility is shared with that approving department of the government.
      Although I am not a lawyer, a law suit by my employer proved that such "approval" by a government body does entail acceptance of such responsibility. My employer won that law suit.

    • @gordswaitkewich940
      @gordswaitkewich940 Рік тому +2

      Lol. The old horse pond & the cordite ditch

    • @gordswaitkewich940
      @gordswaitkewich940 Рік тому +2

      I remember alot of that. Lol. Remember when Wayoata street was the end of the eastside & kildare to the north. When they built Murdoch McKay just inside of Duffys ditch. That used to be Clays farm. I hated that mile walk across the open field.

    • @gordswaitkewich940
      @gordswaitkewich940 Рік тому +2

      I used to play in that old elevator. Its accessed off Springfield road. Parish & Heinbecker bought it years ago & put it to work. Was still in use the last time I was back 4 years ago.
      I transferred out in 75. Lived in Transcona for almost 20 years. 500 block of Victoria east

    • @facingup1624
      @facingup1624 Рік тому +2

      When I heard Transcona in the video when I watched it on Sunday I assumed it was some other Transcona. Then he mentioned winnipeg at the end and I got curious where the building was.
      Today I was out for a xc ski at harbourview golf course, and bam, there it was.

  • @Prando34
    @Prando34 Рік тому +88

    I love the format of these videos. As a visual learner, the graphics and demonstrations, like with the straws, helps me a lot to understand. Thankyou!

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  Рік тому +8

      Glad you like them! More to come!

    • @davidarvingumazon5024
      @davidarvingumazon5024 Рік тому +2

      @@TheEngineeringHub Can you do about engineering of foundations underground mining? We need to know the evolution of their structural shapes. I'm still confused with people using woods to support their tunnels, and I don't know their limits. Steels are expensive.

    • @NigelTolley
      @NigelTolley Рік тому +1

      @@davidarvingumazon5024 Wood is cheap and easily available in most distant mining locations, easily cut to length, and has great holding capacity. Using steel, you would still need something rigid to spread the load, else the steel would be driven like a nail into the earth. Very much like foundations!

  • @gregculverwell
    @gregculverwell Рік тому +63

    It would be interesting to hear what you have to say about the Milenium Tower in San Francisco and the efforts to stabilise /save it.

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  Рік тому +32

      That's an excellent example! It could end up being a nice video 🤔

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund Рік тому +6

      Pisan envy.

    • @dustinthewind3925
      @dustinthewind3925 Рік тому +10

      As a pile driver, I would also like to hear your thoughts on cast in place pilings in the San Francisco "bay mud". After seeing the way they were drilled, filled with concrete or grout, and how the rebar cages are literally shoved into collapsed holes and called good... Well, it has always baffled me. I have 3 years of experience in dcip and it was some of the most horrendous pile installation I've ever seen and took part in... and I took no pride in it.
      One day I'm going to hear about one of those projects on the news, just like the millennium tower.

    • @RRaucina
      @RRaucina 9 місяців тому

      @@TheEngineeringHub So get busy before it falls over.

  • @pattschetter
    @pattschetter Рік тому +10

    I'm reminded of two similar failures relatively nearby, in the Fargo area, also on the Glacial Lake Agassiz lakebed - the Stockwood Fill east of Glyndon MN in the same timeframe as the Transcona failure, and a Fargo grain elevator built in the 1950's that failed similarly to Transcona but was unsalvageable.

  • @DSHPerotecH
    @DSHPerotecH Рік тому +5

    I actually used to work in this grain elevator, as a subcontracted electrician for maintenance.
    Have lots of photos on my phone of all the old pulleys and DC motors.
    As far as I know, this elevator is now vacant as of 2021 or so, serious foundation issues I heard, and the owners have moved to a brand new elevator out East of Winnipeg, past the town of Dugald.

    • @Shaker626
      @Shaker626 8 місяців тому

      IF they had foundation issues to begin with, I can't imagine how bad they are now. I think the elevator should be preserved though.

  • @goodstufffromdavidpaul2246
    @goodstufffromdavidpaul2246 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the video. I have a failed home foundation on the north slope of Astoria, Oregon. I am continuing to study our options...we are at the top of one of 75 active landslides in Astoria.
    I read in (I think in: Brown's Foundation Engineering Handbook) about a rather famous settlement of a public building in Mexico. The building settled evenly making the second floor the first floor! And, I believe it is still in use today. PS: our geologist tells us that our fabulous view of the Columbia River, gets better every day.

  • @northtrader
    @northtrader Рік тому +7

    Interesting video. Kind of nostalgic for me. This was pretty much "right in my backyard'. I grew up just north of Transcona and took my civil engineering degree from the University of Manitoba (way back). We studied this failure as part of the geotechnical curriculum. Thanks for posting. I also have that exact steel design and wood design manual in my 'library'. Although I don't practice engineering any longer, they are still great reference manuals.

    • @hmw-ms3tx
      @hmw-ms3tx Рік тому +1

      I took mechanical engineering at the U of M and remember the large black and white picture of this in one of the hallways. My older brother took civil there and they covered this failure as well.

  • @mumblbeebee6546
    @mumblbeebee6546 Рік тому +8

    Oh I would happily watch a video on the righting of the silos! :)

  • @ezegroup22
    @ezegroup22 Рік тому +10

    What a great video! I learned more through it than in the lectures I received in my geotechnical engineering classes 25 years ago.

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  Рік тому +2

      Thank you so much ezegroup! We are very glad you found the video informative, check out some of our previous videos on geotechnical topics you may enjoy those as well. Cheers!

    • @ezegroup22
      @ezegroup22 Рік тому +2

      @@TheEngineeringHub oh, yes. I’ve got quite a few that I need to watch!

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  Рік тому +3

      @ezegroup22 Great! Let us know how we did! Positive or negative, any feedback is appreciated 🙏

  • @xanderopal7367
    @xanderopal7367 Рік тому +8

    Fascinating! This video explains why the plates and blocks I used to lift up a combine harvester in a field not just settled, but tilted as I operated the jacks. A much larger plate would have helped to increase the stability, and thus the safety.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Рік тому +1

      But a larger plate would destroy more unharvested crops . For temporarily lifting a combine harvester, pushing around the soil at each location is acceptable and easily undone by plowing the field before sowing the next crop, as is tradition anyway.

    • @ylevre3285
      @ylevre3285 10 місяців тому

      @@johndododoe1411 not the OP but having a few more square meters of crop disturbed is a lot less expensive than the ground shifting and dropping the combine in an awkward position that damages it. In addition, the odds are that the ground you are setting the plates and blocks on has already had the combine remove the crop being harvested anyways. Finally, most farmers engage in zero-till seeding now where they plant directing into the stubble of the previous year's crop as this reduces soil erosion during spring runoff or heavy rains as well as reducing moisture loss that occurs when the ground is cultivated.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 10 місяців тому

      @@ylevre3285 I thought lifting the combine would be after a breakdown with unharvested crops on 2 of 4 sides .

    • @ylevre3285
      @ylevre3285 10 місяців тому

      @@johndododoe1411 I'd say that is generally correct, but because the combine header (intake) is at the very front of the machine that means that all the lift points underneath are going to have been cleared already. Any damage you need to do on the crop sides from there on will likely need to be done no matter if your final plates are 50cm per side or 150 cm per side

  • @gordonborsboom7460
    @gordonborsboom7460 Рік тому +6

    I have passed near this structure many times. I've never heard of this failure before

  • @rafaeldiazsanchez
    @rafaeldiazsanchez Рік тому +4

    Clear explanation, good graphics... a pleasure to watch. Thank you.

  • @Umski
    @Umski Рік тому +19

    Thanks, a whole new field of engineering for me - it's astonishing that they were able to fix and re-right the silos after that failure - good old fashioned engineering, rather than the demolish and start again approach these days!

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 Рік тому

      the entire thing was structural metal, so not really fair to compare that to the failiure of most buildings

  • @jackfishcampbell6745
    @jackfishcampbell6745 Рік тому +3

    That building is about 5 kilometers from our house , here in Winnipeg . I'm still amazed that they got a handle on this mess in 1913 .

  • @pauldavidson6321
    @pauldavidson6321 Рік тому +7

    The leaning tower of Pisa foundations would be an interesting topic.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Рік тому

      And a potential example for ground settling slowly under a foundation, he asked for examples of that to use in a future video.

  • @eyemastervideo
    @eyemastervideo Рік тому +5

    Knowing how they brought it back up would be very interesting

  • @dwaynemurphy8229
    @dwaynemurphy8229 Рік тому +2

    Really awesome video! Well explained. Look forward to more videos soon.

  • @linctexpilot8337
    @linctexpilot8337 Рік тому

    I am not a soil engineer....................... but this video and failure explanation is FASCINATING!!!!

  • @denkern-phil
    @denkern-phil Рік тому +6

    Your straw model is wonderful. Please extend it and do ananalysis video using straws of different diameters, mixed, or in planes, or in patches.
    The underpinning thought is a realisation of mine of looking at solid, liquid and gaseous not as aggregate states, but rather as behaviour. This behaviour is determined in the most simple case by the mixing ratio of two homogenous particulate grain sizes. Exemplified by ground coffee (KG1) in its vacuum package (KG1=100%) behaving solid until a hole is punched and upon air (KG2, where KG2 KG1:KG2 = 90/10 -> 80/20 -> 70/30 etc. over time) - you can now "pour" it out.

  • @sailingstpommedeterre4905
    @sailingstpommedeterre4905 Рік тому +12

    Excellent video !!
    It appears that the Tower of Pisa could have failed due to the same failure described in your video👍

    • @SeedlingNL
      @SeedlingNL Рік тому +2

      They also could have prevented this collapse the same way as Pisa did.. but that depends on how fast the collapse happened. If it was noticible, they could have left one side empty, which would counteract the tilt.. but with that weak clay layer, it could easily have gone the other way then.
      Kudos to whoever build them though.. those silos survived a collapse!

    • @darylcheshire1618
      @darylcheshire1618 11 місяців тому +1

      What amused me about Pisa was that it began to tilt during construction and the builders tried to compensate for the lean by making the building curved. The tower has a slight curve.

    • @sailingstpommedeterre4905
      @sailingstpommedeterre4905 11 місяців тому

      @@darylcheshire1618 😳😳😳 "curved" wow, I never heard that story😳

  • @SigniousCA
    @SigniousCA Рік тому

    Best part of the video is using O86 and S16 as the end stops for the experiment. We'll done mate.
    Great demo and explanation of shear failure. Learned some history on it from the vid.

  • @sixstringedthing
    @sixstringedthing 11 місяців тому

    I've only watched the intro and paused this for later, but I've already subscribed to the channel. I can see that this is going to be excellently produced and very informative.
    I have nothing to do with geo/hydro or civil works in my day job as an electronics tech, but I've always been fascinated by the engineering behind The Big Jobs.
    Looks like this channel will fall right on that particular shear line. :)

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  11 місяців тому

      Hi thing with six strings, I am flattered by your comment. I hope the rest of the video, when you watch it, will hold up to the initial expectations. Possibly this other video on Taipei 101 might fall in your interest category as well: ua-cam.com/video/mGe9zjwK2gQ/v-deo.html

  • @frankhoose
    @frankhoose Рік тому

    Excellent presentation. I'm not an engineer, but I'm always interested in how and why things happen from a scientific perspective. This really helped me to understand how, what seemed like a well-tested design, failed for reasons that are now much better understood.

  • @mohamedkhan4762
    @mohamedkhan4762 Рік тому +12

    As always a great video. It would be nice if we can have a separate video on Terzaghi's Failure Model and the Bearing Capacity Equations.

  • @Kevinrothwell1959
    @Kevinrothwell1959 Рік тому

    That was really interesting! It explains something that I've often wondered about concerning foundations.
    Subscribed

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 Рік тому +6

    7:27 Much of the parts of New Orleans and it's suburbs that were built up after 1950 suffer serious subsidence problems, since new land was created by filling in marsh and reclaiming the edge of the nearby lake. I remember driving down cracked and undulating streets, while seeing two foot gaps under house slabs.

    • @Christoph-sd3zi
      @Christoph-sd3zi Рік тому +1

      Everything East of Michigan Ave is debris from the Great Chicago Fire that was pushed out into Lake Michigan after the fire so all buildings built there have to have pilings that extend down to solid ground.

  • @kennethellison9713
    @kennethellison9713 10 місяців тому

    This is a great presentation. Your use of clear explanations and understandable modeling made this accessible to the layman. I'd like to know your thoughts on the Millennium tower failure in San Francisco.

  • @formolzinho
    @formolzinho 11 місяців тому +1

    Very nice, concise and informative video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @FalbertForester
    @FalbertForester Рік тому +2

    @7:05 The author asserts that the main reason that foundations are dug into the soil is to extend the slip plane. That may be true in climates without winter, but I assert that in climates with winter, digging in to get under the frost line - the depth to which the soil freezes in winter - is a much more pressing reason to dig a foundation deep into the soil. If water gets under the foundation during warmer temperatures, then freezes in the winter, it can cause heaving, cracking, even collapse of the foundation, especially over years of freezing and thawing.
    Otherwise, good video, and thank you!

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  Рік тому

      Absolutely! There are many reasons why burying a foundation is a good idea. The extension of the slip plane and soil confinment are just two of many reasons. Frost is another excellent example, thanks!

  • @InTeCredo
    @InTeCredo Рік тому +2

    One came to my mind: St Mark basilica in Venice. I visited the basilica in 1989 and was surprised at how crooky and lumpy the flooring was. I could see from a certain distance that the basilica wasn't level. Pisa tower is famous and most visible example of foundation failure. Another is the Millennium Tower in San Francisco that is leaning 28 inches at the top, leading to the enormous engineering challenges of finding the optimal solution for stabilising the skyscraper (hopefully before the next Big One hits).

  • @sakeesh9p795
    @sakeesh9p795 Рік тому +8

    Factor of safety is important here, which is the ratio of ultimate failure load to design (actual load). In every civil mechanical structure the factor of safety is used, if variable are unmeasurable or not measured it is increased. It could be high as 8 for tractors or 1.2 for rockets. In general engineering structures it is 3 to 4.

    • @Yora21
      @Yora21 Рік тому +1

      A low safety factor for rockets makes sense. These things are so precisely engineered with extremely high quality control for the materials so that the possible loads are highly predictable.
      And they also need to minimize total weight as much as possible.

    • @jtd8719
      @jtd8719 Рік тому

      The factor of safety is usually taken against the computed "ultimate" strength (resistance) of the soil. Note, however, that this is the strength limit state and it may require that the soils move (settle) a great deal to fully mobilize the available resistance. In many cases, the usable strength is dictated by the settlement tolerance of the structure being supported - known as the serviceability limit state.

  • @pe4153
    @pe4153 9 місяців тому

    This helps a lot. My friend is building retaining walls on expansive soil and was wondering why an expensive soils report was necessary and why they needed to take such deep samples. It also answered my question why foundations or footings are typically buried. Thanks

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  9 місяців тому

      There is also a video on expansive soils. You can find it in the description. Cheers!

  • @tsbrownie
    @tsbrownie 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video. Well explained. Thank you. Did you make a video on the righting of the bin house?

  • @BillDavies-ej6ye
    @BillDavies-ej6ye 10 місяців тому

    An excellent video, interesting and well explained. Congratulations.

  • @mltnetwork
    @mltnetwork Рік тому

    Thank you for this video...I love engineering marvels and solving and understanding engineering failed events and projects.

  • @DavidRLentz
    @DavidRLentz Рік тому

    Thank you for your acknowledgements and feedback.

  • @vector712
    @vector712 Рік тому

    I'm glad you are getting some value out of your CISC design handbook finally. :P

  • @audiencesmember
    @audiencesmember 10 місяців тому

    This was plenty informative, thank you!

  • @truegret7778
    @truegret7778 11 місяців тому

    Fascinating. I, for one, would like to see the follow-up story of just how they "righted" the Transcona Grain Elevator, and why it was decommissioned. Thanks!

  • @hafeeznoormohamed1259
    @hafeeznoormohamed1259 Рік тому +10

    Wow this series on Geotechnical topics is really awesome!
    Can you please do the next part on piles / deep foundations?
    Cheers!

    • @BrilliantDesignOnline
      @BrilliantDesignOnline Рік тому

      Second that on piles/deep foundations, especially under-sea (like SF Bay Bridge).

  • @c.garcia2363
    @c.garcia2363 Рік тому

    Muy bien hecho el video y muy informativo su contenido.

  • @user-jt7cl7qz5y
    @user-jt7cl7qz5y 9 місяців тому

    very well presented , i love illustration they help understand the problems

  • @465maltbie
    @465maltbie Рік тому +1

    Very nicely done video, more detail about the righting of the elevator would be nice to see. Charles

  • @patty109109
    @patty109109 11 місяців тому

    Very useful, as I’m in the middle of planning a Grain silo project!

  • @jerrysstories711
    @jerrysstories711 Рік тому

    Great video and explanation. I'm subscribing!

  • @Sylvan_dB
    @Sylvan_dB Рік тому +4

    This was great, especially the straw model. I'd love to have a similar analysis of the Millenium Tower in San Francisco.

    • @KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking
      @KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking Рік тому +1

      Yes! I'm scared by the fact that could be an actual water well underneath that building. "The Leaning Tower of San Francisco."
      Edit: Also, please do the liquifaction events during the 1906 Quake...like the Valencia Hotel. (Proof wooden buildings are not safer than brick if your foundation is built upon old wetlands or creeks.)

  • @gordswaitkewich940
    @gordswaitkewich940 Рік тому +1

    And to think I used to play there when I was a kid.
    I think it was in the late 70s when these elevators were finally put to intended use.
    The long sides face north & south. The west side of the silos have settled & remain that way still today

  • @modernnomadtechnology9252
    @modernnomadtechnology9252 Рік тому +1

    A huge condominium tower had to be demolished on the Texas USA sandbar island of South Padre Island. This was quite recent, and it seems surprising that the engineers were once again incorrect in estimating the soil's capacity. It was an EPIC failure.

  • @KaiHenningsen
    @KaiHenningsen Рік тому +3

    We've had subsiding problems here caused by big building projects which in turn caused a lowering of the water table, leading to many cracks in old buildings. At least around here, it was a huge thing.
    Here = Münster (Westf.), Germany. (As in, peace of Westphalia.)

  • @parkwaydriven92
    @parkwaydriven92 Рік тому +11

    Great video! I have actually been wanting to build a model similar to what you have shown to help better explain this concept. Time to go buy some straws! Haha thanks!

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  Рік тому +3

      Hi Park! Thanks for the comment, starws of varying diameters might be even better. That would represent the soil better since the particle size distribution in the soils could vary a lot.

    • @wombatillo
      @wombatillo Рік тому

      No longer available in Europe. I hope you live somewhere else or cardboard straws have to be good enough.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood1602 Рік тому

    As time past I grabbed every chance to see a fallen crane or cracked building or over settled structure.
    It made my engineering perspective more real.

  • @scroungasworkshop4663
    @scroungasworkshop4663 Рік тому

    Brilliant presentation. Thanks.

  • @robertgift
    @robertgift Рік тому

    Well done! Thank you. Were thelevator cylinders filled equally? Or was there more weight on.e side than the other?

  • @ClassicShotokan
    @ClassicShotokan 10 місяців тому

    Interesting.
    You should analyze the leaning tower of Pisa. The failure and the corrective actions.

  • @KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking

    Really cool video! I never understood this phenomenon before. I have a suggestion - if you use different colored straws for each layer, we could visualize it much better. See just how far soils from below, climb up to the top. (And how upper layers sink!) Thank you, eagerly awaiting more.

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  Рік тому

      Great tip! Thank you, settlement coming up next! In meanwhile you can check out our latest video on the Comet - The Plane That Kept on Crashing! Cheers!

  • @MegaTapdog
    @MegaTapdog Рік тому

    Thank you very much, Im an armchair engineer and love to learn from videos like this.

  • @rachelcarre9468
    @rachelcarre9468 Рік тому +1

    that was an excellent presentation

  • @britestarrenovations
    @britestarrenovations Рік тому

    We are building a ranch style bungalow and the builder has requested a soil test . Do you usually increase the footing size to be able to handle the load for the basement foundation?

  • @franksprecisionguesswork501
    @franksprecisionguesswork501 Рік тому +1

    Great concise video. Proves that assumptions can make or break a design. In this case a surface test did not reveal the weakness lurking below. I assume a valid test would have to be a drilled hole then inserting a pole to load test. And A driven pile would skew the bearing capacity because it compresses the soil beneath the pile.

    • @SafeTrucking
      @SafeTrucking Рік тому

      And the soil beside the pile. It creates a load bearing column that is of significantly larger than the area of the pile. Of course, that depends on the shape of the pile.

  • @trischas.2809
    @trischas.2809 Рік тому

    San Marco in Venice did settle unevenly since its construction, managing to deform its own Tarrazzo floors in the outer areas but keeping its inner floors mostly flat.

  • @raydunakin
    @raydunakin Рік тому

    I'm not an engineer or architect, but this was quite fascinating!

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA Рік тому

    By me, due to a lot of the soils being wet sand and silt, many of the large buildings in the city are built on pilings, that go down to a bedrock layer some 30m/100ft down, so that the buildings do not settle into the ground. Even for buildings that are 3 floors many were built that way, simply because there were so many other buildings that settled down over time, despite having massive floating slab foundations. You have to come out of the city basin before you find simple non piled foundations, and even there many still use deep piling to get stable foundations that will not shift.
    One large centre was rather infamous for having an expansion joint, that opened up big enough that you could put a ladder between the 2 floors, and climb between them. They fixed it by casting in a new section of slab to close it up again, after the motion had subsided, and putting in a massive effort involving digging out the fill (what caused the issue) and piling under the half to both expand the centre, and to provide a large area of foundation on existing soil as well.
    university has the one building that has moved around 5m down the hillside it was built on, as a unit, due to them underestimating the piling requirement, but the concrete structure is strong enough to handle it. Ironically, it does contain parts of the civil engineering faculty, and the other side is known as the most accurately surveyed hill in the area, seeing as it get surveyed around 100 times a year in training students.

  • @cosmiccharlie8294
    @cosmiccharlie8294 Рік тому +1

    I used to chuckle reading the geotechnical reports, talk about CYA language. That told me it was not an exact science. One situation that cropped up over and over was trench settlement. Contractors universally detested having to compact the trench spoils in lifts and if they were not watched they often would not do it.

  • @charleslyster1681
    @charleslyster1681 Рік тому +2

    I had always thought that the depth of foundations (unless they are raft foundations) was determined by how far down it was necessary to go to get either to bedrock or to hard, compacted subsoil which would resist compression. I’d certainly have imagined this grain silo was built on piles, but it seems it was just a relatively shallow slab.

  • @Isabella-nh5dm
    @Isabella-nh5dm Рік тому +2

    Ah...My own backyard. This is the Red River Clay soil that we live in. Transcona today is dry only where massive drainage systems have been put in place.

  • @darylcheshire1618
    @darylcheshire1618 11 місяців тому +1

    reminds me of the coal stage at Ararat in 1970 it was a massive concrete structure. An attempt was made to demolish it and it leaned over at 45 degrees and stayed that way for a week. Later it was demolished,.

  • @philtucker1224
    @philtucker1224 Рік тому

    Excellent explanation I guess this will also apply to buildings like those on Venice?

  • @zaptor1514
    @zaptor1514 11 місяців тому +1

    I think a contributing factor in this failure is uneven loading and unloading similar to loading and unloading ships and the ballasting operations. Too much load on one side of the silo complex would put uneven pressure on the foundation causing it to slip / slide down in the ground hence tipping the silos over.

  • @gilsaraiva5815
    @gilsaraiva5815 Рік тому +1

    Touché...but also, the soil type is important. As a Geologist, in my country we never use the 300mm plate, only 600m to 720mm plate. Also we use the DIP test and Troxler test. And if needed we complement with CPT and/or DPSH.

  • @jkull173
    @jkull173 Рік тому

    Have you done a video about the failed foundation and the failed repair attempts on the Millennium tower in San Francisco?

  • @robn8036
    @robn8036 10 місяців тому

    Excellent video, thank you.

  • @jonwelch564
    @jonwelch564 Рік тому

    What would be the best way to strengthen the foundations in this example?
    Would piling the foundations, to effectively deepen the triangle wedge of earth under the them, provide more stability?
    Would widening the foundations be better?
    Would digging the foundations deeper be best option?
    Or would any of those options be viable?

  • @pdgingras
    @pdgingras Рік тому

    Something similar was happening at the Anderson Plant (Conant Street) in Maumee, Ohio, although not as extreme. They still use the grain bins, but at only 50%.

  • @AndresPenarandaastralvoyager
    @AndresPenarandaastralvoyager 10 місяців тому

    Interesting explanation, it's necessary to say that the bousinesqq model apply for the trayectories on the stresses lines and finally will show the tendency for the deformation plane. The bousinesqq Model for the tensorial state of deformations over an object is deduced from the Lamé-Navier differential equation solution, wich describes accrurately this kind of punture applying load over an horizontal layer, like this superficial foundation.

  • @Rev_Oir
    @Rev_Oir Рік тому +1

    All the crazy corrections made to the Leaning Tower of Pisa, which began to lean DURING construction, so they built a curve into it!
    ... and the engineering afterwards was just as wacky, monster lead blocks, grout injections, hydraulic jacks and more! It's like a smorgasbord of engineering fixes over the centuries.
    ALSO: Titanic, Hindenburg, Challenger, Columbia, Upper Big Branch Mine, Deep Water Horizon Oilwell, etc, in which accountants overruled engineers to cut costs, and wound up cutting throats.

  • @jonnyshoestring9368
    @jonnyshoestring9368 Рік тому

    Wonder if the bins were filled in a certain order so as not to place a disproportionate amount of weight in any one area or would that not need to be factored in?
    Excellent video from a layperson perspective.

  • @saimon174666
    @saimon174666 Рік тому

    Immediate sub, great video.

  • @jasonadams2264
    @jasonadams2264 Рік тому

    Great video! I love structural analysis of failure. One observation, though.. another video on the reconstruction would be great, because while I now understand well what went wrong, I am extremely curious to know how this problem was solved-- I think its equally important to know how to work around such a slip fault, as it is to know it exists. SO did they just basically make the foundation bigger?

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  Рік тому +1

      They basically excavated under the side that was up and let it sink down until it was level. Then, they reconstructed all the conveyors and elevators to work with this new elevation (simple explanation). Interestingly, this was all possible because the concrete structure i.e. the bins were (way) overdesigned, so the concrete only had minor cracking. If this failure occurred today, my guess would be that the bins would crumble under their own weight, as the structure leans to the side. In the tilted structure, those bin walls were undergoing heavy bending (something they were not designed for), and yet they had no problem doing this new task 😅.

    • @jasonadams2264
      @jasonadams2264 Рік тому

      @@TheEngineeringHub well this is good, but given that the soil composition was at fault to begin with, how was that part mitigated? can one imagine that after the soil had moved, it was then at its final rest state? fully compacted, so to speak? Using the straw model, they removed some straws from the uplifted side until the whole structure leaned level again, and figured that then essentially the soil underneath had moved all that it was going to? because by digging lower they were essentially going even further into the disconformity.

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  Рік тому +1

      To be honest, the literature that I read never mentioned how they knew that the problem was mitigated. In fact, I think they didn't. It took many years to solve the mystery, so I think they just thought oh well the structure hasn't moved for a year, so it's probably in equilibrium. I think your explanation is probably close to the truth. Since the failure stopped at this point (this tilt angle), it probably meant that it encountered some kind of resistance or the soil got compacted and its strength increased. What is often the case with clays is that if they are loaded slowly over a longer period, they will get stronger as they get consolidated. The problem with the initial failure was that the bins were filled up so quick that the soil didn't have time to drain and compact so it failed. One of the references mentioned that if the bins were filled slowly over the period of one year the failure probably would have never happened. This is new knowledge that we understand now and often implemented on construction sites. Huge piles of dirt are placed where the building foundation would be and left there for a big part of the year so that the soil will be preloaded and drain.

  • @mhick3333
    @mhick3333 2 місяці тому

    Great presentation

  • @rickdommett
    @rickdommett Рік тому

    geopiers are becoming more and more in use, I would appreciate a shear plane experiment on this new adaptation, thank you.

  • @ginnyjollykidd
    @ginnyjollykidd Рік тому

    Is there anything to learn about the February 12, 2014 collapse of the Corvette Museum in Bowling Green Kentucky?
    Yes, Kentucky has a lot of Karst topography and extensive Mammoth Cave Park (near Bowling Green), but what can they do to prevent another collapse like that?
    Also, would LIGO help analyze soil? It has uncovered buried cities and underground structures.
    Can loose soil be compressed and compacted before building on it?

  • @jameswatters9592
    @jameswatters9592 Рік тому

    Absolutely fascinating

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    • @brennans1563
      @brennans1563 11 місяців тому

      Not bad! The experiment with the bottle, however, is somewhat misleading as it does not include a foundation between the bottle and the straws.

    • @joetuktyyuktuk8635
      @joetuktyyuktuk8635 11 місяців тому

      I am not familiar with how grain silos are loaded, is one silo loaded to capacity then the next? Or are they loaded simultaneously? I see a distribution arrangement on top, but I assume there would be gates to regulate flow into different silos. I wonder what role if any of uneven distribution of weight may have played, say if the bins were started to fill from front to back, or one side to the other.

    • @joetuktyyuktuk8635
      @joetuktyyuktuk8635 11 місяців тому

      ​@@brennans1563 Yes and the rounded edge on the bottle would serve as a additional source of slippage, given the "grain" size of the straws, but I think overall it does a good job of providing a visualization of the "underlying" principles...

  • @kevinduran9337
    @kevinduran9337 11 місяців тому +1

    Could uneven grain loads in the silos themselves have contributed to the failure as well?

  • @BasementEngineer
    @BasementEngineer Рік тому +2

    Hmmm, I wonder if there is a record of the condition of fill of the various silos. If all the silos were empty, and loading began with an outer row of silos progressing towards the middle, an overturning moment would be introduced in the foundation slab. This could start the shear failure of the soil below the foundation.
    I'm surprised that no test borings were conducted to investigate soil conditions for some distance below the footing, say at least to the lowest extend of the "sphere of influence" as shown on your animation diagram.

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 Рік тому

      as the video says, they did do borings, but only **looked** at the bottom half. It looked the same as the top half so they didn't test it. They were wrong

  • @jimhealy4890
    @jimhealy4890 Рік тому

    One consideration that occurred to me was whether or not the silos were not filled and emptied in a way that kept the load balanced on the foundation. Much the same has how a bulk ore carrier needs to be filled or emptied.

  • @pierrec1590
    @pierrec1590 Рік тому +1

    In Winnipeg, in winter, frost frequently reaches 2 meters deep. I wonder if this may have contributed in any manner to the failure.

  • @rogerhodges7656
    @rogerhodges7656 Рік тому +1

    Great video. I would like to see the cideo where they uprighted the structure. Can you post a link?

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  Рік тому +1

      Hi Roger, that video is not produced yet. It was just a consideration for a future video to see if there is interest among the viewers.

    • @rogerhodges7656
      @rogerhodges7656 Рік тому +1

      @@TheEngineeringHub If you can find historical photos of the work and the correction, it would be fantastic!

  • @robert-skibelo
    @robert-skibelo 10 місяців тому

    Excellent video. Subscribed.

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  10 місяців тому

      Thank you Robert! If you enjoyed this one, you may also enjoy some of the other videos on soil mechanics. Cheers!

  • @rickblackwell6435
    @rickblackwell6435 Рік тому

    Great visuals!

  • @iandalton6887
    @iandalton6887 Рік тому

    My Civil Engineering lecturer warned me of the danger of & how to calculate the slip circle in 1967. Unfortunately, I witnessed live on television in 1997, 2 ski chalets' concrete slabs slip onto each other after constant rain, killing 18 skiers in their sleep !

  • @BillySnowball
    @BillySnowball Рік тому +1

    Good video, the original design error was only a couple of %, assuming they'd allowed % 33 factor of safety. Which they clearly had. The fos I would argue was an error and should have been two to three times the characteristic load

  • @DarkVoidIII
    @DarkVoidIII 11 місяців тому +1

    Here's a question: Why do they pack sand and level it when building foundations? Is the compaction force applied to the soil and sand mixture important when building large buildings that are only 1 or 2 stories high?

  • @piraterubberduck6056
    @piraterubberduck6056 Рік тому

    Do piles around the edge of the foundation pin the triangle of soil below the foundation to the otherside of the slip plane increasing the force needed for it to slip?

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 Рік тому

      yeah, but, unless it's already slipping, you have no idea where the slip plane is going to be :D The building could as easily have decided to turn the other direction...

  • @markp5726
    @markp5726 Рік тому +1

    Houses in Amsterdam are on pilings. Some started leaning because the pilings started rotting when the groundwater level dropped.

  • @TheEngineeringHub
    @TheEngineeringHub  11 місяців тому

    If you enjoyed this video, you may also enjoy the next video in this series on:
    The Leading Cause of Foundation Failures
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