i know i shouldn't upload such stuff, but DAMN GIRL! thats generational!! it basically redefines what a terminal is, and i hope one day not far from now we'll get something similar with Gnome tech and Ollama!! btw forgot to say on video, but Warp uses OpenAI API just in case you didnt know..
@@mii_beta bro have you looked at all of the things this has? you don't want a terminal, you want to feel like you are superior by the idea of using a terminal, but that thing has so much trash piggy backed on it it's far from just being a terminal. This is just another full blown GUI program, plain and simple. If you want a command line, you use a command line. If you want a desktop file browser that can run commands, then I guess this is for you, but not for the rest of us. Btw, how can you say that this thing's code makes the other terminals' source code look embarrassing when you can't even read the code of this program? it's not open source, how are you reading it to be able to tell whether it is actually good code or not? not to mention, the fact that it has so many features doesn't make it "better". The other terminals don't do the things this does because the other terminals ARE terminals, this is not. Now, this is not to say that it is bad or anything. It looks great and it actually fits the idea of what I think could be a pretty powerful way to work on a system, but again, let's call things by their name. This feels more like some kind of weird text editor with file browser and command line support. If we look at it objectively by what it does, it doesn't even do as many things as one would think a proper text editor does, so the whole text editing side of things is just absurd to be included as part of this "terminal" when you are going to end up using vi, nano, emacs or whatever text editor you like. In short, it looks cool, has some good ideas, but it's just not good overall. And it's not a terminal. Or rather, not JUST a terminal.
UI and controls feel like Obsidian (notes app) with a lot of addons, at least from watching the video. And its features are astounding, even though its quite pricey for a terminal.
Thanks! I'm using Warp daily and love it a lot, it's really a next level thing, not just another terminal. I didn't know about some of the features you mention. Free plan is ok for me, I don't use AI very often.
Recently found your channel. Really enjoy your reviews of all things Gnome, as an Ubuntu user your channel is a godsend and not nearly as cringe as some of these other big linux channels. Keep doing what you do and I'll keep watching!
This does way too many things for a terminal in my opinion. If they removed the Markdown viewer for example you could just single click the file and it would open in a good Markdown editor. /srs But I'm also highly religious toward the KISS ideology, so I get mad when I see something as demonic as this. /ex
you can disable the embedded markdown, but i agree that Warp does more that it should and just seeing all these stuff (etc teams) it's bad; it's like KDE Activities; someone may say just dont use them, but only the fact it's there and you see them is bad!!!
exa/eza does clickable links on ls and starship does a great prompt. But yes, the staleness of vte/gnome-terminal (no ligatures, no kitty images, no anything) is just sad.
As I very recently looked for a similar Terminal to Windows Terminal again... 👀 Still sticking to Tilix, but the missing command palette makes it so much harder. Guess I will take a look at warp now.
Na. Wezterm has remote. Don't subscribe to Warp. It looks pretty. Wezterm + nushell + helix but I'm loving the hell out of Zed which has AI panel built in for text response. You don't need AI all over the place, because it already is. Smart tools and hints don't help my learning. I just use apropos, fzf, man, internet. Aliases, shell scripts. Gnome has a Gemini extension. I don't use AI that much. Not paying. Eventually, it will happen.
I started to notice how many apps try to act as if there were a window managers for their "panes", probably for the reason being Mac / GNOME have cumbersome window managers. Whatever the reason may be, a terminal should display shell prompts and send text to the shell. Window manager / terminal multiplexter (i love tmux) should manage windows/panes.
@@mii_beta while I agree that the argument that pronouncing a word correctly or not would prove someone to be a bot is absurd, it is still very common for TTS systems and AI generated voices to do some very weird pronounciations so uh, not sure what either of you were thinking. Mispronouncing a word doesn't prove someone to be a bot, nor does it prove someone to not be one.
The real tell with this voice is having no intonation and still speaks with an actual native speakers accent. Also how it leads off every sentence with faux breaht is an huge tell. Though you could get something similar with a badly configured microphone. Still the voice works well enough. (Though some of these sentences just cut off completely and sound like ass.)
@@invalid_define i work with ai voices like 4 years (doing a lot programming too), and i have a developed different problem; sometimes i hear real voices and im not sure if there are ai; it's getting really hard to say; btw we're currently working on another voice model --i hope we''ll finish it, but we go very slow..actually we are doing recordings right now
I’m using warp for a few months and it’s a no step back. The AI help is something I can’t live without anymore. ;) Warp goes great on tiling windows as well.
@@mii_beta still on the free plan. I don't get capping limit warnings very often and when I do, then I just continue the task on gpt. But it happens on rare ocasions. Definitely I can't go back to regular terminal anymore. Sometimes I have to and feel myself like scrathing the walls of my cave using a sharp stone...
I mean....after decades of using Gnome Terminal?.....the "new stuff" just seems like candy-coated filler. I'll stick to the Tried & True, and leave this kind of stuff for the kids.
i know i shouldn't upload such stuff, but DAMN GIRL! thats generational!! it basically redefines what a terminal is, and i hope one day not far from now we'll get something similar with Gnome tech and Ollama!! btw forgot to say on video, but Warp uses OpenAI API just in case you didnt know..
Not open source. No go for me.
sure, but you know, open or not open, the actual Warp code makes every other terminal source code embarrassing
@@mii_beta give it about a year this stuff will prolly be common place
i love warp but i will never use it as a primary term
@@reality-drift122 sooner!!!
@@mii_beta bro have you looked at all of the things this has? you don't want a terminal, you want to feel like you are superior by the idea of using a terminal, but that thing has so much trash piggy backed on it it's far from just being a terminal. This is just another full blown GUI program, plain and simple. If you want a command line, you use a command line. If you want a desktop file browser that can run commands, then I guess this is for you, but not for the rest of us. Btw, how can you say that this thing's code makes the other terminals' source code look embarrassing when you can't even read the code of this program? it's not open source, how are you reading it to be able to tell whether it is actually good code or not? not to mention, the fact that it has so many features doesn't make it "better". The other terminals don't do the things this does because the other terminals ARE terminals, this is not.
Now, this is not to say that it is bad or anything. It looks great and it actually fits the idea of what I think could be a pretty powerful way to work on a system, but again, let's call things by their name. This feels more like some kind of weird text editor with file browser and command line support. If we look at it objectively by what it does, it doesn't even do as many things as one would think a proper text editor does, so the whole text editing side of things is just absurd to be included as part of this "terminal" when you are going to end up using vi, nano, emacs or whatever text editor you like.
In short, it looks cool, has some good ideas, but it's just not good overall. And it's not a terminal. Or rather, not JUST a terminal.
tldr of what the guy above me said: Very Bad idea.
There's Wave Terminal 🤷♂
woah! i didnt know that! i think you'll see a video on that, somewhere here, very very soon!! thanks
Plus one here
Interesting! Gonna try it for sure, thanks for sharing.
It seems they just shot themselves in the foot with the 0.8 release last week. It's nothing like all the videos on their channel. I don't get it..
Aw…ok…somebody else’s already pointed you there…
I dont really like to use this word, but It's bloat as hell 😂
It's like buying a car and it comes with a toaster and an iron built in.
"Bloat" is subjective. We might get a car with a toaster and an iron built in and wonder how be lived without it.
😂😂😂😅😅😅
I don't have any knowledge on these subjects but I love to listen to you, I don't know Linux but I find it relaxing to listen to you. :D
2:38 nushell
UI and controls feel like Obsidian (notes app) with a lot of addons, at least from watching the video. And its features are astounding, even though its quite pricey for a terminal.
Thanks! I'm using Warp daily and love it a lot, it's really a next level thing, not just another terminal. I didn't know about some of the features you mention. Free plan is ok for me, I don't use AI very often.
Recently found your channel. Really enjoy your reviews of all things Gnome, as an Ubuntu user your channel is a godsend and not nearly as cringe as some of these other big linux channels. Keep doing what you do and I'll keep watching!
How can I set a fixed number of workspaces? I tried to do it, but I couldn figure it out.
how to do your voice? like what ai?
This does way too many things for a terminal in my opinion. If they removed the Markdown viewer for example you could just single click the file and it would open in a good Markdown editor. /srs But I'm also highly religious toward the KISS ideology, so I get mad when I see something as demonic as this. /ex
you can disable the embedded markdown, but i agree that Warp does more that it should and just seeing all these stuff (etc teams) it's bad; it's like KDE Activities; someone may say just dont use them, but only the fact it's there and you see them is bad!!!
alacritty is my first and last choice
exa/eza does clickable links on ls and starship does a great prompt.
But yes, the staleness of vte/gnome-terminal (no ligatures, no kitty images, no anything) is just sad.
Usability yes, AI, not a chance.
What about waveterm? Seems comparable feature-wise…?
Given all the funding they've raised, it should be good
Lets clone this and make it open
Hey. Whats the voice changer that you use? Thanks
Use Emacs?
Note: instead of using terminals
sheeit, that looks good. but for now I'm gonna stick with kitty, I spent so much time customizing it, and it's foss
Never heard of Warp but the feature set looks awesome going to try it out.
An app like that can be fast with any language, even Python :)
As I very recently looked for a similar Terminal to Windows Terminal again... 👀
Still sticking to Tilix, but the missing command palette makes it so much harder.
Guess I will take a look at warp now.
Our gnome cryptid dropping yet another
does it support images?
Nope, there is an open issue though
Na. Wezterm has remote. Don't subscribe to Warp. It looks pretty. Wezterm + nushell + helix but I'm loving the hell out of Zed which has AI panel built in for text response. You don't need AI all over the place, because it already is. Smart tools and hints don't help my learning. I just use apropos, fzf, man, internet. Aliases, shell scripts. Gnome has a Gemini extension. I don't use AI that much. Not paying. Eventually, it will happen.
I started to notice how many apps try to act as if there were a window managers for their "panes", probably for the reason being Mac / GNOME have cumbersome window managers. Whatever the reason may be, a terminal should display shell prompts and send text to the shell. Window manager / terminal multiplexter (i love tmux) should manage windows/panes.
Consider wave terminal it's better and open source
is this tts?
No, it's a really pretty girl who uses Linux
is your voice ai?
aint cursor also an ai terminal?
nope, it's a remake of vscode, an IDE
Give Wezterm a look
im trying all terminals on their release date ..i'd say someone's not very happy with their Gnome terminal 😅😅😅
What's so good about wezterm? I tried it and didn't get the appeal.
Def no for me lol I'll stick to my neovim setup
convert to XFCE. its better than Gnome.
warp terminal is so glitchy and has bad icons blury on linux compare to mac
Warp dwarfs everything I've seen so far. Also thankfully not a gtk app
if that thing was on GTK, would be like 50% more usable!!
Mii, are you real?
if you live in a game engine, you're REAL
this has got to be a bot, it cant even pronounce ollama correctly.
Isn't the opposite, if I was a bot I could definitely pronounce Ollama 🙄
@@mii_beta while I agree that the argument that pronouncing a word correctly or not would prove someone to be a bot is absurd, it is still very common for TTS systems and AI generated voices to do some very weird pronounciations so uh, not sure what either of you were thinking. Mispronouncing a word doesn't prove someone to be a bot, nor does it prove someone to not be one.
The real tell with this voice is having no intonation and still speaks with an actual native speakers accent. Also how it leads off every sentence with faux breaht is an huge tell. Though you could get something similar with a badly configured microphone.
Still the voice works well enough. (Though some of these sentences just cut off completely and sound like ass.)
@@invalid_define i work with ai voices like 4 years (doing a lot programming too), and i have a developed different problem; sometimes i hear real voices and im not sure if there are ai; it's getting really hard to say; btw we're currently working on another voice model --i hope we''ll finish it, but we go very slow..actually we are doing recordings right now
I’m using warp for a few months and it’s a no step back. The AI help is something I can’t live without anymore. ;) Warp goes great on tiling windows as well.
on what plan? isn't pro too expensive?
@@mii_beta still on the free plan. I don't get capping limit warnings very often and when I do, then I just continue the task on gpt. But it happens on rare ocasions.
Definitely I can't go back to regular terminal anymore. Sometimes I have to and feel myself like scrathing the walls of my cave using a sharp stone...
KDE > gnome
Do you are have stupid
Just use gui tools, stupid
Terminals aren't gtk4 enough 💅
There's more to Linux than GNOME.
I'm also not sure why this popped up in my recommendations. Weird. Algorithm.
Linux is GNOME ..period!
@@mii_beta Linux is not any particular desktop environment, or any particular UI framework
hmm Konsole still the best... yes KDE is the best!
I mean....after decades of using Gnome Terminal?.....the "new stuff" just seems like candy-coated filler. I'll stick to the Tried & True, and leave this kind of stuff for the kids.