There's also the Componar 50mm f4.5 which is even smaller and the 'zebra-style' version has a square aperture too. It's not quite as good as the 75mm in terms of IQ but, because it's a shorter focal length, it needs to be mounted closer to the sensor which enhances it's size advantage, if tiny size is your priority.
That square bokeh is really cool. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to make something to mount to the rear of any other lens to simulate the same effect
did we know the industar 50-2 had such good swirl? Mathieu it would be great if you could do a video on techniques to capture the best swirl from the industar 50-2, the helios 44-2, and some of your projector lenses.
I have a homemade lens made from the internal lens of an old canon super 8 camera that sits between the main lens and the film, it is a 24mm f/1 and produces an amazing radial blur
See if you can find a Meopta Openar. The 40mm f/1.8 and 80mm f/2.8 cover more than MFT. I do have the 12.5mm and 20mm as well, but they don't give a large enough image circle. I even have the whole set twice, but only a few are free from fungus. It's a strong look with quite some field curvature
It's probably late for an answer, but still. It depends. Some of them have flange distance around 22 mm, some around 40. If your camera is mirrorless, you can adapt all of them. Second problem is that most of them don't have a focusing mechanism. Sometimes they fit into helicoids of some vintage lenses, I sacrificed Industar 50-2 for Componar lens.
@@A12ndrey0 thanks! I already sold both lenses, both 50mm 3.5. I keep contact with the guy that buyed the lenses and he adapted them to a Fuji APSC camera with very good results
Hi! I'm relatively new to cameras. How do you attach the lenses to the camera itself? Are they compatible right out of the bat or do you have a universal or specific adaptor for each?
They are all over the map. A lot need adapters, m39, m42 among others. The modern 7artisans doesn't, its specific to camera type. Look at m42 lenses, they are your best bet if you are new to adapted lenses
Great and very informative video keep it up! I have the lomo t43 and I plan to use it on amateur cinematography purposes because of it's bigger fov compared to tge helios m44. I can't wait to see what it's capable of.
Really love the look of that square bokeh, but it's mildly infuriating that it's off-level by about ⅟₁₆th turn (12.5°). I'm interested if it being level would maximize the surrealness or ruin the look.
you can insert a black circular card of paper with a square hole cut into it in between your lens and adapter (or over top the front lens glass) of any lens and get similar bokeh if the square is sized correctly.
Luckilly there is a simple, if certainly equally annoying, solution. You could take the photo at than angle so that the bokeh is level with what you want to take, and then crop so you have the largest possible image that brings the final image to level with what you wanted.
never thought to find the Industar 50-2 suddenly pop-up in a video I got it with a camera from the DDR, it's a Praktica super TL 1000 for those who where wondering
@@MathieuStern Ooh sounds like fun, kinda reminds of the frankentstein you made with trying to adapt the Isco Cinelux lens. I even tried my hand at that, with mixed results. Mine is a bit awkward with Lens > Bicycle inner tube > Broken Helios Lens > Chunky M42-FujiX adapter. Worth the effort though.
👍👍 Even the Tiny weird ones are looking better, in the hand of Frech genius! Well done on all counts. btw, when are we going to see a lens with the diaphragm in the shape of Mathieu Stern's Logo for this channel, thus very correctly watermarked! bokeh !!! (And doesn't have to be Red!). I know you can make it my friend and let's see if you take the challenge of this DIY project.
You need to get yourself a Pentax 110 24mm f2.8. I swear it's smaller than any of those lenses and it fits apsc sensors. I have the full P110 set, 18mm, 24mm, 50mm and 75mm and they are ridiculous. Really good optics too
@@jochnowicz the primes are all fairly sharp. The zoom is notoriously bad though. And yes there aren't any aperture blades in these lenses but that doesn't stop them from being cool, unique and good at taking photos (◠‿◕)
@@_guillermo M42 is the old “Universal” SLR screw mount common to early Pentax and other brands from the 1950a through the early 80s. M39 is the much smaller mount for pre WWII Leica rangefinders and related copies. Soviet rangefinder cameras and lenses continued to use it through the 1990s. Both mounts easily adapt to modern mirrorless cameras.
I was the 667th like. Not today Satan!!! 😂😂😂 Btw I love the square bokeh on that first lens! It makes your pictures look like a living pastel painting in the background. Such a neat effect!
I recognized the setting, and the nice model. I travelled back in time, to a better world. But I'm sorry Mathieu, I could not save your lens, and your tripod still fell over by the wind.
Not a plug, Worth trying, finding, borrowing, renting, and then you'll be sold. The ever controversial m43 format also has the best mirrorless lens of *any* format. The Voigtlander 29mm f0.8 lens has the best aperture of any new mirrorless lens presently listed for sale. The optics make it one of the top twenty lenses of any interchangeable lens on the market today. The main drawbacks of the lens. It is expensive for a prime lens, and it is also manual focus. Most people will not have the patience to use a lens with such a highly concentrated focus field. Just how concentrated? Wide open, that f0.8 aperture is normally too concentrated for a head and shoulders portrait of one person - the eyes and someone's nose would normally not be entirely in focus. For those willing to practice the true arts side of photography, and for those with the patience and skill to use manual focusing - this lens is absolutely worth it. One of the best camera lenses I've ever used for any sized sensor.
I like the look of the Industar so much, that I had to buy one for myself. Take that you soviets! $22 and $9 for a mount adapter. Very excited to use it for portraits. I'm going to look into more m42 lenses.
I bloody love this channel!! I only stumbled across it a week or so ago, but it's now easily one of my favourites on the Tube... Question though, I'm also a Sony shooter, do you have any videos on how you're mounting these lens?
I don't want to be mean, but lately I'm not enjoying your videos as much as I used to. They are good indeed, but they're also cheap, not very informative and somewhat recycled (i am an old fan, i know most of the lenses because of your precious well crafted videos). Take this as constructive criticism, because I really enjoyed your videos and i want to do that again soon!
I totally agree with your critique but also I need to find some new audience and recycling old reviews into more impactful videos are a good thing for the channel as they work very well My other experimental videos I posted lately are doing very poorly and that’s the kind of content I enjoy doing but no one seems to care so I need to find a balance between viral content and more personal project that no one cares about :)
Weird? Lenses like the Schneider Componar were developed not to shoot photographs with, but as projection lens in "enlargers". This required different, or favored, or enabled lenience to some aspects and doing better in other, qualities. Starting generally with a negative in that enlarger, the subject has no depth, but excellent sharpness and contour sharpness and contrast are required while bokeh has zero concern and there should be no field curvature or distortion. You would stop these down to get to their optimal performance, not because of depth of field. The 75mm/4.5 will have been designed with an image circle for medium format. Schneider and other manufacturers (like Nikon or Leica) would still have a quality level above this one IIRC.
The square Bokeh makes everything look like a simulation. Love your videos
thanks a lot Shane
definitely! they look so digitized. Definitely would be cool for building and city photography or even abstract
The bokeh looks like it's pixelated. Loved it.
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Square bokeh would be excellent for science fiction movies!
They are so cute, looks like lego lenses haha! The square aperture one is so cool, the bokeh is so uncommon, the pictures are beautiful!
They are! and it's a pretty rare lens
There's also the Componar 50mm f4.5 which is even smaller and the 'zebra-style' version has a square aperture too. It's not quite as good as the 75mm in terms of IQ but, because it's a shorter focal length, it needs to be mounted closer to the sensor which enhances it's size advantage, if tiny size is your priority.
That square bokeh is really cool. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to make something to mount to the rear of any other lens to simulate the same effect
The Helios-33 might be my favorite vintage lens now.
did we know the industar 50-2 had such good swirl?
Mathieu it would be great if you could do a video on techniques to capture the best swirl from the industar 50-2, the helios 44-2, and some of your projector lenses.
The square bokeh looks really weird, but very cool!
Some of those (LOMO for sure) were surprisingly nice. Thanks for sharing!
WoW! The pixels with the first lens are really huge!
Great video. I woke up in the middle of the night & opened UA-cam & this was recommended…it’s like having a beautiful dream. Thank you 😴💭
j'adore le lomo T43 cette optique à un rendu très poétique
j'ai aussi craqué pour le 35mm 1.7 cctv ! merci pour cette video Mathieu
They are very good for casual travel photography :)
exactly !
Every video you make gives me major gear acquisition syndrome ❤
I've got that Componar thing... Need to do something with it. I had great intentions, but...
The Componar would be great for my Worf. I mostly shoot Videogame Stuff, and a Square, or “Pixelated” Background would be so fitting.
I want the Square bokeh one so much !
Great Music 👍
I have a homemade lens made from the internal lens of an old canon super 8 camera that sits between the main lens and the film, it is a 24mm f/1 and produces an amazing radial blur
Well done!
So many cute tiny lenses to hunt now !
Square bokeh is beautiful 😍
that square aperture blew me away!
thanks for the review!
could you please tell me does the holga sony lens fit a full-frame sony camera?
no just APSC and not even everything
lovely collection Mathieu! Keep them coming
Thank you! Will do!
Where did you take the ttartisans pica? Wonderful location
what mount is needed for the componar?
How were you able to adapt the lenses onto your camera?
The square bokeh almost makes it look like you're in a Minecraft world. Neat little lenses!
Amazing as usual, keep it up 👍
which adapter i need for the componar 75mm on e-mount?
were those tt artisan photos taken in New Zealand?
See if you can find a Meopta Openar. The 40mm f/1.8 and 80mm f/2.8 cover more than MFT.
I do have the 12.5mm and 20mm as well, but they don't give a large enough image circle. I even have the whole set twice, but only a few are free from fungus.
It's a strong look with quite some field curvature
Componar - really unusual bokeh which looks like "pixellized" 🙃
Nice!
I had that Fujian. I regret selling it, but at that time funky lenses were not for me I think.
Is it possible to use photo enlarger machine lenses on my camera? Is there any adapter? What happens with the focus?
It's probably late for an answer, but still. It depends. Some of them have flange distance around 22 mm, some around 40. If your camera is mirrorless, you can adapt all of them. Second problem is that most of them don't have a focusing mechanism. Sometimes they fit into helicoids of some vintage lenses, I sacrificed Industar 50-2 for Componar lens.
@@A12ndrey0 thanks! I already sold both lenses, both 50mm 3.5. I keep contact with the guy that buyed the lenses and he adapted them to a Fuji APSC camera with very good results
Hi! I'm relatively new to cameras. How do you attach the lenses to the camera itself? Are they compatible right out of the bat or do you have a universal or specific adaptor for each?
They are all over the map. A lot need adapters, m39, m42 among others. The modern 7artisans doesn't, its specific to camera type. Look at m42 lenses, they are your best bet if you are new to adapted lenses
look in this video's description for all the adapters
Does it matter about the camera brand? 🙂
Fujian CTVs have a weird front thread measure, cant fit "regular" filters
Marrant le bokeh carré... ça fait un peu des gros pixels :)
Great and very informative video keep it up! I have the lomo t43 and I plan to use it on amateur cinematography purposes because of it's bigger fov compared to tge helios m44. I can't wait to see what it's capable of.
its a fantastic lens, have fun !
J'aurais mis aussi le Konica 40mm 1.8
What adapter did you use for the lomo?
You always pic really good music . Liked this video 👍
thanks a lot !
That square bokeh would work so well for a sci fi film
Really love the look of that square bokeh, but it's mildly infuriating that it's off-level by about ⅟₁₆th turn (12.5°). I'm interested if it being level would maximize the surrealness or ruin the look.
you can insert a black circular card of paper with a square hole cut into it in between your lens and adapter (or over top the front lens glass) of any lens and get similar bokeh if the square is sized correctly.
Luckilly there is a simple, if certainly equally annoying, solution. You could take the photo at than angle so that the bokeh is level with what you want to take, and then crop so you have the largest possible image that brings the final image to level with what you wanted.
@@xander1052word, i was Gonna say twist the camera then crop.
Would love to pick up a couple of these, but having trouble finding some that can mount to my sony a6600.
You need to get an adapter. For example for the Fujian, use a C-mount to E-mount adapter plate.
never thought to find the Industar 50-2 suddenly pop-up in a video
I got it with a camera from the DDR, it's a Praktica super TL 1000 for those who where wondering
@3:48 is it possible that this shot was taken in berlin near frankfurter tor?
yes it was !
i would love to use that squared lens in my water housing .
Dude you love that helios don't you lol.
I love it
Do they need APSC crop to be able to be used?
only the Pinhole , Fujian , and holga lenses
You ever found another link for a good helicoid. The old one you used in the enlarger lens years ago does not exist anymore
2:12 where is this?
I LOVE my Pentax auto 110 lenses on my Fuji. Such small lenses, I can have all 3 primes on my pants pocket.
Square boke looks like a bad compression algorithm, which is cool.
Okay I am going to scrounge every junk shop for the oldest and cheapest cameras that I may repurpose for effects. I am reinspired
Do you know what lens mount the Lomo T-43 uses? I can't seem to find anything on it.
it doesn't have a mount, you need to make it fit into a m42 hole
@@MathieuStern Ooh sounds like fun, kinda reminds of the frankentstein you made with trying to adapt the Isco Cinelux lens. I even tried my hand at that, with mixed results. Mine is a bit awkward with Lens > Bicycle inner tube > Broken Helios Lens > Chunky M42-FujiX adapter. Worth the effort though.
👍👍 Even the Tiny weird ones are looking better, in the hand of Frech genius! Well done on all counts.
btw, when are we going to see a lens with the diaphragm in the shape of Mathieu Stern's Logo for this channel, thus very correctly watermarked! bokeh !!! (And doesn't have to be Red!).
I know you can make it my friend and let's see if you take the challenge of this DIY project.
My phone's periscope camera gets that same square bokeh!
You need to get yourself a Pentax 110 24mm f2.8. I swear it's smaller than any of those lenses and it fits apsc sensors. I have the full P110 set, 18mm, 24mm, 50mm and 75mm and they are ridiculous. Really good optics too
There is also a zoom lens too, but I think problem is aperture is fixed on these lenses!
@@jochnowicz the primes are all fairly sharp. The zoom is notoriously bad though. And yes there aren't any aperture blades in these lenses but that doesn't stop them from being cool, unique and good at taking photos (◠‿◕)
@@magicgfingergrant6751 yes I have the little Pentax 110 with a 24mm and it’s incredible what it can do! Such a fan!
Name of the song?
What type of mount is the Industar 50-2?
M42 or M39
@@MathieuStern are those the same thing?
@@_guillermo M42 is the old “Universal” SLR screw mount common to early Pentax and other brands from the 1950a through the early 80s. M39 is the much smaller mount for pre WWII Leica rangefinders and related copies. Soviet rangefinder cameras and lenses continued to use it through the 1990s. Both mounts easily adapt to modern mirrorless cameras.
@@Skipsul thank you!!
what is the artist name of the music?
I want that minecraft lens
Le componar, ce ne serait pas une optique d'agrandisseur ?
si exactement !
Индустар как красиво крутит!...
The Componar guys envisioned the Minecraft aesthetic way before developers could even dream of it!
Theyre not that tiny, i mean look they have a lot of potential and i bet their personality is also nice
I was the 667th like. Not today Satan!!! 😂😂😂
Btw I love the square bokeh on that first lens! It makes your pictures look like a living pastel painting in the background. Such a neat effect!
I recognized the setting, and the nice model.
I travelled back in time, to a better world.
But I'm sorry Mathieu, I could not save your lens, and your tripod still fell over by the wind.
Ha ha yes, a time where Notre dame was not burned down, feels like a looong time ago
@@MathieuStern Indeed, perspective of time is warped these days.
I surprised myself, when I remembered that episode instantly, can't explain it 😅
Tiny tiny tiny 😂 can we buy any of these still?
Not a plug,
Worth trying, finding, borrowing, renting, and then you'll be sold.
The ever controversial m43 format also has the best mirrorless lens of *any* format. The Voigtlander 29mm f0.8 lens has the best aperture of any new mirrorless lens presently listed for sale. The optics make it one of the top twenty lenses of any interchangeable lens on the market today.
The main drawbacks of the lens. It is expensive for a prime lens, and it is also manual focus.
Most people will not have the patience to use a lens with such a highly concentrated focus field. Just how concentrated? Wide open, that f0.8 aperture is normally too concentrated for a head and shoulders portrait of one person - the eyes and someone's nose would normally not be entirely in focus.
For those willing to practice the true arts side of photography, and for those with the patience and skill to use manual focusing - this lens is absolutely worth it. One of the best camera lenses I've ever used for any sized sensor.
Nice video! We're going to cover some of these lenses in the future, they're on Sean's desk as we speak :) Amazing images as always!
🤩👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💕
Hm...Pentax 40mm/2.8?..
first lens looks like something out of a minecraft world
I like the look of the Industar so much, that I had to buy one for myself. Take that you soviets! $22 and $9 for a mount adapter. Very excited to use it for portraits. I'm going to look into more m42 lenses.
tiny baby tiny tiny
Just grab the latest smartphone, they have weird tiny lenses!!!!!
not even second
I bloody love this channel!! I only stumbled across it a week or so ago, but it's now easily one of my favourites on the Tube... Question though, I'm also a Sony shooter, do you have any videos on how you're mounting these lens?
I've just seen that you've listed these in the details below... thank you, super useful, now to do some more research!
thanks a lot Scott, Yes i made different videos about adapters and how to mount lenses for any camera
@@MathieuStern Prefect, thank you. I need to do a deep dive into your channel so I look forward to giving it a watch in the very near future :)
I don't want to be mean, but lately I'm not enjoying your videos as much as I used to. They are good indeed, but they're also cheap, not very informative and somewhat recycled (i am an old fan, i know most of the lenses because of your precious well crafted videos). Take this as constructive criticism, because I really enjoyed your videos and i want to do that again soon!
I totally agree with your critique but also I need to find some new audience and recycling old reviews into more impactful videos are a good thing for the channel as they work very well
My other experimental videos I posted lately are doing very poorly and that’s the kind of content I enjoy doing but no one seems to care so I need to find a balance between viral content and more personal project that no one cares about :)
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Weird? Lenses like the Schneider Componar were developed not to shoot photographs with, but as projection lens in "enlargers". This required different, or favored, or enabled lenience to some aspects and doing better in other, qualities. Starting generally with a negative in that enlarger, the subject has no depth, but excellent sharpness and contour sharpness and contrast are required while bokeh has zero concern and there should be no field curvature or distortion. You would stop these down to get to their optimal performance, not because of depth of field. The 75mm/4.5 will have been designed with an image circle for medium format. Schneider and other manufacturers (like Nikon or Leica) would still have a quality level above this one IIRC.
Hi.