Thank you for showing a culture to which runs deep in my heart and DNA. I am learning the culture because I am an ancestor of Captain William Banner who is featured in “Blue Water Empire”. He was responsible for the Australian pearling Industry and is buried on Warrior Island. He befriended Chief Kabushu and married one of his Daughters. Captain Banners fob watch has been placed in the Sydney Maritime Museum by my Family where we recently visited and had a private viewing. Thank you once again for showing me part of my heritage. I apologise in advance for any spelling errors. There is a lot more to my Family’s story.
2,000yrs is an absolute understatement. Try 10,000yrs possibly more, My Ancestors on Erub built stone wall fish traps well over 5,000yrs ago. The Devil Cpt. William Bligh shot a cheif who was holding up a Green Coconut. This was a symbol of peace and we wish to trade. This was in 1791. A Crew member shot the Chief. Then all hell broke loose. My Ancestor's knew how the musket worked, they also knew how cannons worked. This knowledge came from the 185yr trade that had been going on with the Spanish. The Erubam Le canoes pulled back and rained arrows onto the 2 ships, The Providence and the Assistant. More canoes travelled out to join in the defence of Erub. Cpt. William Bligh knew it would be to long before they would be overrun, since our Bow&Arrows had more range and power than their muskets. Cpt William Bligh called out in Spanish, since he knew my Ancestors had a good understanding of Spanish, hence you dont trade with people for well over 150yrs and not have a basic understanding of each others language. Bligh called out for peace, the Canoes approached, several boarded and communicated with Bligh or his translator. Compensation was demanded for the unlawful killing of a chief, this ment the one that fired the shot, his head should be removed. Bligh negotiated a fair trade in gardening tools, since he had prior knowledge that this is why the spanish had been so successful in trading with my ancestors of Erub. Bligh had to sail on empty handed, since a trade for garden food, smoked meat and water was denied. Bligh claimed to have charted the waters of the Torres Strait, but this was already done by the Spanish in 1606, they kept the charts a secret for 78yrs and released them to the Malaysian Map makers around the 1680's. If Bligh charted our waters, then why was it named the Bligh Strait. Bligh also had prior knowledge and understanding of our waters and people since he was giuded through our water's after the Mutiny on the Bounty. He claims overwises, but there is no way he would have sail through our waters undetected. Trading canoes would have interacted with him, giving him water and food. So much of our true history has been hidden, we are feed a fabricated European history, so much so, our people unknowingly repeat this history to their children. The 1800's is one of the saddest century in our history. Its when the British fabricated the stories of head-hunting and Cannibalism. This was done to scare off out European nations from coming chasing the pearls and sea Cucumber that the Britain was raping from our waters with their slave boats, men and woman taken from the pacific. These men were allowed to leave the boats at night, row ashore to the nearest island nation they were anchored near and rape the woman. They next day, they would visited by the men of that nation demanding the criminals be punished, punishment was the removal of their head, this would restore honour and peace. The head would be buried in an unmarked location, the body would be left on the ship. These demands were mostly not honoured, this caused a lot of clashes in the Torres Strait. The filthy british used these reports to fabricate the false head-hunting myth.
Where was your people when Australia and Papua New Guinea was joined...your people wasn't even islanders back then so yea your island culture is 2,000 yrs old from new Guinea everything came from PNG drums bow and arrows canoes mats dhari dances..we see that trade still happening today 😂😂 everything in TSI is PNG
@Yowie277 2000yrs is an understatement goose. It was joined, the land between illegally named lands Australia & PNG were engulfed by rising sea levels at the end of the last iceage 20,000yrs ago. The rise stopped around 11,000yrs ago. Not disputing the origins of My Eastern island ancestors, who came from the Kiwai Islands. This was possible due the currents within that region, something you clearly know absolutely nothing about. While my Erubam Le ancestors were building stonewall fish traps. Europeans had not clear language or social structure. They were still working it out after emerging from the caves of central Europe. 3000yrs later, they would be civilised by the northern nations of Africa. What your pee brain can't comprehend is, the nations that once occupied the land that once existed prior to the rising sea levels, were forced to move north and south as sea moved in. In the western region, those nations were forced to move up the mountains. The style of the Bow came from from those original nations. The same happened between the lands that once existed between illegally named Australia and Tasmania. During the last iceage, the sea level was 125m lower. But yeah, a lot of this information would be extremely hard for your sponge bob brain to comprehend. But no doubt you'll come back with another troll comment
1:09:23 I agree Murray Islanders need to tone down that cultural gatekeeper bs. Their culture is 'strong' only because anthropologist AC Haddon dedicated whole volumes/journals on Murray Island culture alone out of the 30 other islands. So as a result you get this heavily skewed one sided version of cultural history of the region in Murray Island's favour.
I watched a YT of 3 kids that survived being stranded on an island and survived. Do you know about the "red and blue ghouls" they mentioned? Is this a part of the culture?
Bligh Oswald learnt that Torres sailed thru there ....Torres voyage with assisted by quiros first voyage.... Torres made a returned trip heading towards Phillipines..... Torres strait is made up with mixed race of cultural background There is more history and scared heritage land and sea richly beautiful.
Melanesians and Aborigines left Africa some 80,000 plus years ago. Our skin colour may be similar to Africans, but we are our own unique people. We are Oceanics.
Thank you for showing a culture to which runs deep in my heart and DNA. I am learning the culture because I am an ancestor of Captain William Banner who is featured in “Blue Water Empire”. He was responsible for the Australian pearling Industry and is buried on Warrior Island. He befriended Chief Kabushu and married one of his Daughters. Captain Banners fob watch has been placed in the Sydney Maritime Museum by my Family where we recently visited and had a private viewing. Thank you once again for showing me part of my heritage. I apologise in advance for any spelling errors. There is a lot more to my Family’s story.
As a Torres Strait Islander who's grown up on mainland Australia and never been to TSI, thank you for uploading a valuable resource!
I know some of your family ‘Hodgson’ I’m from Cairns..your Sabai descendant hey..where did you grow up?
Me too lissa
Likewise Lissa my lifelong mission is to go to a cultural festival. I LOVE history on the Straits.Great doco.THANKYOU
💯% LAND CRABS. 😂😂😂
@@elcallematon8266 bruh 😂😂
I do miss my TI days i use to work on a cray boat all thru Torres Strait wild times that's for sure
Brought back a lot of and good to see Sabai island as I enjoyed my short visit there 45 years ago
Well presented. Thank you.
My Melanesian family, I can clearly understand the tokpisin which thay are speaking.
Yes yes ma bala
2,000yrs is an absolute understatement. Try 10,000yrs possibly more, My Ancestors on Erub built stone wall fish traps well over 5,000yrs ago.
The Devil Cpt. William Bligh shot a cheif who was holding up a Green Coconut. This was a symbol of peace and we wish to trade. This was in 1791. A Crew member shot the Chief. Then all hell broke loose. My Ancestor's knew how the musket worked, they also knew how cannons worked. This knowledge came from the 185yr trade that had been going on with the Spanish. The Erubam Le canoes pulled back and rained arrows onto the 2 ships, The Providence and the Assistant. More canoes travelled out to join in the defence of Erub. Cpt. William Bligh knew it would be to long before they would be overrun, since our Bow&Arrows had more range and power than their muskets. Cpt William Bligh called out in Spanish, since he knew my Ancestors had a good understanding of Spanish, hence you dont trade with people for well over 150yrs and not have a basic understanding of each others language. Bligh called out for peace, the Canoes approached, several boarded and communicated with Bligh or his translator. Compensation was demanded for the unlawful killing of a chief, this ment the one that fired the shot, his head should be removed. Bligh negotiated a fair trade in gardening tools, since he had prior knowledge that this is why the spanish had been so successful in trading with my ancestors of Erub. Bligh had to sail on empty handed, since a trade for garden food, smoked meat and water was denied.
Bligh claimed to have charted the waters of the Torres Strait, but this was already done by the Spanish in 1606, they kept the charts a secret for 78yrs and released them to the Malaysian Map makers around the 1680's. If Bligh charted our waters, then why was it named the Bligh Strait. Bligh also had prior knowledge and understanding of our waters and people since he was giuded through our water's after the Mutiny on the Bounty. He claims overwises, but there is no way he would have sail through our waters undetected. Trading canoes would have interacted with him, giving him water and food.
So much of our true history has been hidden, we are feed a fabricated European history, so much so, our people unknowingly repeat this history to their children.
The 1800's is one of the saddest century in our history. Its when the British fabricated the stories of head-hunting and Cannibalism. This was done to scare off out European nations from coming chasing the pearls and sea Cucumber that the Britain was raping from our waters with their slave boats, men and woman taken from the pacific. These men were allowed to leave the boats at night, row ashore to the nearest island nation they were anchored near and rape the woman. They next day, they would visited by the men of that nation demanding the criminals be punished, punishment was the removal of their head, this would restore honour and peace. The head would be buried in an unmarked location, the body would be left on the ship. These demands were mostly not honoured, this caused a lot of clashes in the Torres Strait. The filthy british used these reports to fabricate the false head-hunting myth.
Where was your people when Australia and Papua New Guinea was joined...your people wasn't even islanders back then so yea your island culture is 2,000 yrs old from new Guinea everything came from PNG drums bow and arrows canoes mats dhari dances..we see that trade still happening today 😂😂 everything in TSI is PNG
@Yowie277 2000yrs is an understatement goose. It was joined, the land between illegally named lands Australia & PNG were engulfed by rising sea levels at the end of the last iceage 20,000yrs ago. The rise stopped around 11,000yrs ago. Not disputing the origins of My Eastern island ancestors, who came from the Kiwai Islands. This was possible due the currents within that region, something you clearly know absolutely nothing about. While my Erubam Le ancestors were building stonewall fish traps. Europeans had not clear language or social structure. They were still working it out after emerging from the caves of central Europe. 3000yrs later, they would be civilised by the northern nations of Africa.
What your pee brain can't comprehend is, the nations that once occupied the land that once existed prior to the rising sea levels, were forced to move north and south as sea moved in. In the western region, those nations were forced to move up the mountains. The style of the Bow came from from those original nations. The same happened between the lands that once existed between illegally named Australia and Tasmania. During the last iceage, the sea level was 125m lower. But yeah, a lot of this information would be extremely hard for your sponge bob brain to comprehend. But no doubt you'll come back with another troll comment
Its Pretty Good,
well done
1:09:23 I agree Murray Islanders need to tone down that cultural gatekeeper bs. Their culture is 'strong' only because anthropologist AC Haddon dedicated whole volumes/journals on Murray Island culture alone out of the 30 other islands. So as a result you get this heavily skewed one sided version of cultural history of the region in Murray Island's favour.
I watched a YT of 3 kids that survived being stranded on an island and survived. Do you know about the "red and blue ghouls" they mentioned? Is this a part of the culture?
this seems like a really great documentary but I am struggling to watch it so I will try again later. good work though
Cool Ty for the upload❤
Love tores culture.same as fijian culture
Bligh Oswald learnt that Torres sailed thru there ....Torres voyage with assisted by quiros first voyage.... Torres made a returned trip heading towards Phillipines.....
Torres strait is made up with mixed race of cultural background
There is more history and scared heritage land and sea richly beautiful.
Yep and Torres Strait is the english translation of Estrecho De Torres
Oh... God's land... Love from India🇮
Torres Strait Islanders generally look more like Sub Saharan Africans while Australian Aboriginals generally look more like South Asians
They look/are Melanesian
Melanesians and Aborigines left Africa some 80,000 plus years ago. Our skin colour may be similar to Africans, but we are our own unique people. We are Oceanics.
Thx Great docu 👍
Ar0ha
From AOTEAROALAND
these are the real real people meridan people
TSI people are original people of Torres Strait
This is like an alien world because it’s so remote and distant (not trying to be rude or anything)
Not remote tip of Australia at the bottom and PNG at the tip top.
Bala Nation greeting from big ples 🇵🇬
We actually Grow up Mari Island
💙🤍💚🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🖤❤️💛🙏
Mr Waia,I l
love you and miss you
One day later😣😣😣
I thought boigu 🤦🏽♂️
I understand they have PNG genetics but they look exactly like Fijians..no different
They are melinesians just as fijians or solomon islanders but some of the southern torres strait islanders are mixed with australian aboriginies.
Its Pretty Good,
well done