I personally feel like this deck has the wrong large top end artifacts. If you want an army in a can i think either myr battlesphere or wurmcoil for the lifelink, as you mentioned sundering titan would be a really good way to blow out the opponents lands (maybe as a side board card) personally i would go for just having chaos defiler and portal to phyrexia and replacing the last big hitter with dragon engine as this gives you really good removal and portal is an inevitability engine that helps return painter or other creatures like engineer
13:20 I think you punted. You had enough mana to make a construct with urza's saga, which you could then have used to get painter out of the yard with one of your goblins, turning on pyroblast to counter Gaea's will
From the opening deck break down writing this comment 👌 I just remembered about a year or 2 ago phil claiming 3 ball Fuks 😳 and i cant help to not think that same thing when i see this list and feel that adding afew could really up the win percentage.
As someone who is experimenting with putting a combo into a Stompy shell, is Painter something to think about for that? I have always seen Painter Decks more as Goblin Welder decks that happen to have a combo finish as an out. I usually see them controlling more with Welder tricks.
Vault 21: House Gambit may be more suited to this deck than Thrill of Possibility. It's card disadvantage, but getting to loot on two consecutive turns could do a better job of pitching Triplicate etc than Thrill. If the game goes long enough to make some treasures, that's just great, too.
round 2 opp plays delver you straight up say it flips next turn if they set it up right... grindstone x2 untapped with mana for both.... it doesn't just need to be used as the win... could have ripped apart the top decks
My question part way through the league is what purpose do the "big fatty" creature serve in the deck? Are they supposed to be token value engines with Welder? If so, why not play Myr Battlesphere for more tokens (to make saga tokens better) and a creature that can deal damage directly through blockers? Are they just high damage creatures? If so, there are other artifact creatures that have interesting interactions or value worth considering. Blightsteel can be reanimated with the instant speed abilities of welder/Engineers in response to its shuffle trigger and. Phyrexian Fleshgorger is a 7/5 menace lifelink with a massive ward cost (pay life = power) that *could* be hard cast with prototype if the deck went RB rather than mono red. Sundering Titan is and always has been extremely rude. Inkwell Leviathan laughs at removal and the typical big blue creatures like Murktide. Blaster Hulk is an 8/8 with haste. Platinum Emperion or Platinum Angel can sometimes completely blank opposing decks who aren't prepared for them. Yes Chaos Defiler is probably the single best artifact creature to put in that slot in terms of flexible recursive removal, but there are a lot more options for the "fun slots" than just token makers.
The shuffler on this platform, literally makes me close your vids 13 mins in, no artifact drawn. Every vid, some absurd shuffler fact. That NOT how random works. Likely facts happen more than unlikely. Not the other way arround.
I mean, his first card in the league he drew was an artifact. He drew a few game one. He just didn't in game two when he needed it, which makes sense because he had 16 artifacts in his deck including lands game 2. Bad beats drive me crazy in this game, but I don't think this was particularly bad.
Demand answers > thrill of possibility
Problem is demand answers demands an answer but thrill of possibilities is a thrill of possibilities.
Is there a reason we're 4x thrill of possibility over the strictly better demand answers?
Nice find, and good with my new pet painter one-of Legion Extruder
I feel like this deck could replace a fetch or a mountain with Arena of Glory as well. Seems powerful with the welders
Thanks phil from the future! 😊
I personally feel like this deck has the wrong large top end artifacts. If you want an army in a can i think either myr battlesphere or wurmcoil for the lifelink, as you mentioned sundering titan would be a really good way to blow out the opponents lands (maybe as a side board card) personally i would go for just having chaos defiler and portal to phyrexia and replacing the last big hitter with dragon engine as this gives you really good removal and portal is an inevitability engine that helps return painter or other creatures like engineer
R1G2 at the 13:25 mark, why not activate Urza's Saga create a token then sac the token with Engineer to get Painter so then pyroblasts are live?
Silent Gravestone prevents targeting cards in graveyards
13:20 I think you punted. You had enough mana to make a construct with urza's saga, which you could then have used to get painter out of the yard with one of your goblins, turning on pyroblast to counter Gaea's will
Silent Gravestone stops this line.
I like these recommended rounds
Also the throwing goblin that lets you toss things after attacks could also be nice in here😂
From the opening deck break down writing this comment 👌 I just remembered about a year or 2 ago phil claiming 3 ball Fuks 😳 and i cant help to not think that same thing when i see this list and feel that adding afew could really up the win percentage.
10:40, is it not better to play the Mire over basic? Due to the info? I know its small and probably does not matter much.
As someone who is experimenting with putting a combo into a Stompy shell, is Painter something to think about for that? I have always seen Painter Decks more as Goblin Welder decks that happen to have a combo finish as an out. I usually see them controlling more with Welder tricks.
In round one why does Phil not call it Mono black saga storm? Isn't that the deck they are playing?
14:00 why not trade urza token for painter?
At the end of the video.. looks like lightning bolt is at an all time premium in Legacy 😂.
Vault 21: House Gambit may be more suited to this deck than Thrill of Possibility. It's card disadvantage, but getting to loot on two consecutive turns could do a better job of pitching Triplicate etc than Thrill. If the game goes long enough to make some treasures, that's just great, too.
round 2 opp plays delver you straight up say it flips next turn if they set it up right... grindstone x2 untapped with mana for both.... it doesn't just need to be used as the win... could have ripped apart the top decks
Is there some injoke that I am unfamiliar with or why is it almost always round 4 that is the recommended watch?😅
@13:21, make a saga token, Goblin Engineer it into a painter, and you have two counterspells???
Silent Gravestone stops the targeting of the Painter in grave unfortunately
Other people have mentioned it but demand answers is a lot better than thrill, especially could've changed things in round 5
My question part way through the league is what purpose do the "big fatty" creature serve in the deck? Are they supposed to be token value engines with Welder? If so, why not play Myr Battlesphere for more tokens (to make saga tokens better) and a creature that can deal damage directly through blockers? Are they just high damage creatures? If so, there are other artifact creatures that have interesting interactions or value worth considering. Blightsteel can be reanimated with the instant speed abilities of welder/Engineers in response to its shuffle trigger and. Phyrexian Fleshgorger is a 7/5 menace lifelink with a massive ward cost (pay life = power) that *could* be hard cast with prototype if the deck went RB rather than mono red. Sundering Titan is and always has been extremely rude. Inkwell Leviathan laughs at removal and the typical big blue creatures like Murktide. Blaster Hulk is an 8/8 with haste. Platinum Emperion or Platinum Angel can sometimes completely blank opposing decks who aren't prepared for them.
Yes Chaos Defiler is probably the single best artifact creature to put in that slot in terms of flexible recursive removal, but there are a lot more options for the "fun slots" than just token makers.
This is almost exactly how I built my Svella EDH deck other than the Painter Combo. Really strange seeing it as a Legacy deck
Gotta love Legacy decks that do meaningful things in games.
I feel like this deck lost to mana issues in almost every game.
Yess... *YES*
ngl this sideboard looks kinda sus to many moon effects and red blast and no way to deal with storm wich is Painter worse Mu.
Thanks for the video
The shuffler on this platform, literally makes me close your vids
13 mins in, no artifact drawn.
Every vid, some absurd shuffler fact. That NOT how random works.
Likely facts happen more than unlikely. Not the other way arround.
I mean, his first card in the league he drew was an artifact. He drew a few game one. He just didn't in game two when he needed it, which makes sense because he had 16 artifacts in his deck including lands game 2. Bad beats drive me crazy in this game, but I don't think this was particularly bad.