i7 6700K vs i5 6600K - Still worth it in 2020 ? (Benchmark - 15 Games)
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2020
- 6700K is more or less like a 10th Generation intel i3 processor now, just in 4-5 years time. Let's see what these two outdated processors can do in mid 2020.
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I've been waiting on this video. Finally it's here! Thank you :)
Well i unable to get my hands on 6600K that's why.
Welcome :)
@ Dude this video is 100% EXACTLY what I was looking for and it's only a few months old. I was specifically looking at this upgrade for multitasking and GTA 5 because my frametime is garbage. My friend used the i5-6600k with GTA and his played perfectly, so this leads me to believe it might be a problem with the mobo/bios because you and I are using the same board. I'm just curious if you fully updated your bios before conducting this test
Edit: Also do you think this upgrade is worth $130?
@@Wakish0069 sorry for the late reply I believe I received no notification for this comment. Anyway, upgrading to 6700K for 130$ is not worth it. I think you should save some more and get a better option like an AMD CPU if you plan on upgrading for multitasking workloads.
@ Thanks for the reply
@@Wakish0069 Welcome :)
Hello
This is the information and video I have been searching for so thank you ! :)
I've long had a 6600k and been looking now to start gaming on it and was wondering if it was worth upgrading to the 6700k to tie me over for a few years rather than having to upgrade the whole platform
Looking at the benchmark does confirm for me that a 6700k is a good choice. I will aim to game at 3440*1440 so hopefully less of an issue for CPU bottlenecking. However, the one thing that did catch my eye was the minimum FPS in games even at 1440p was much generally much lower for the 6600k than then 6700k and some games like GTA V showing micro stuttering which can really hurt the gaming experience. I suspect the hyperthreading does help a lot in those scenarios and given that even the 10th gen is based on the same architecture as Skylake a 6700k should see me through some time.
Many thanks once again
Welcome :)
if you don't wanna upgrade your motherboard and looking for a processor upgrade then I would suggest you to go for a 7700K. It will give you better performance than a 6700K. Don't pay more than 100-120$ for that CPU if you are going for it. 6600K lacks hyperthreading and does bottleneck and stutters even at 1440p resolution. So in your case optimal choice would be 7700K.
@@axicuno4828 Hello from 2 years in the future. I just bought a 7700k (after doing a few days of research on cpus, it was clear this is the best possible one that's still compatible with my motherboard), and I found this video while trying to do a last minute "did I make the right call" check. Like the rif here, I'm also using an i5-6600k which I've had for 6 years, and it's definitely gotten slow, but I'm kinda curious how you were able to get it overclocked to 4.7ghz - I thought it capped at 3.9
still rocking a 6700k, 4.5 ghz all cores at 1.28 volts. Working fine for 1080p. Will probably upgrade near future to something ryzen 5XXX series. It just needs more cores at this point, as games seem to finally be moving in that direction.
well I have tested i5 (10600K), i7 (10700K) and i9 (10900K) recently and now I am comparing those CPUs to these 5 year old 6700K and 6600K. I will put up a series of videos in a week or so to show the exact bottlenecks of these CPU's. Hopefully that should give you a good perspective of what to expect if you go for an upgrade.
Thanks for sharing this video, I have 6600k @4.7 Ghz - 1.35v. My monitor is 1080p. I'm considering getting a new graphics card, old one is MSI RX 470 8GB. I think that sapphire 5600xt pulse edition is good and budget friendly, also we can update the bios and get nearly 5700. So what is the most suitable graphics card do you suggest for 1080p?
Welcome - Glad to be of help :).
1) 5700 is obviously 10-15% more powerful than 5600XT,
2) 5600XT has 6 GB VRAM, so if you opt for it you'd be losing 2 GB right there.
3) 5600XT is more than enough for a 6600K but if you wanna go the extra distance (future proofing) or plan to play games with super-sampling/VSR resolution, only then opt for a 5700.
@@axicuno4828 thx for the answer
In fact, I'm not planning to upgrade my system in 2 or 3 years. I know 5700 is more powerful, but I must consider the bottleneck and also budget. Sapphire 5600xt can be bios upgradable and It reaches almost the same fps as 5700. In this case this option(5600xt) is good for me? Is there a huge difference losing 2gb vram in games?
@@cihandemir7305 you are welcome buddy. :)
I don't see a problem with 6 GB VRAM, as far as you are not pushing the resolution to 1440p or higher, you are good until your next upgrade.
Forgot to mention - Yes, 5600XT is definitely a better choice. Value for money. :)
Or you can pick GTX 1660 Super, is cheaper and is enough for your 4c4t cpu
Nice video. I'm still rocking a 6600K. I really need to upgrade my RX 580 tho. Considering a 3070.
3070 will be an awesome graphic card considering the price to performance.
Don't bother buying a 3070 with your 6600k. My own overclocked 6600k is bottleneck already for my rtx 2060.
You don't want to spend that much money on a gpu if you can't use its full potential.
If you have the budget, consider upgrading cpu if you get a 3070.
@@TheHjkkkl The value of a 3070 is too good not to pass up while it's available, and obviously a massive upgrade to my current 580. CPU upgrades can come later.
Everyone says that the 6600k bottlenecks a 3070, which is 100%true! BUT..... it still only translate to 20-35% at most, which compared to his RX 580, means that he'll STILL probably DOUBLE the frame rate on most games with that upgrade, even on a 6600k.
@JeKramxel an upgrade will always improove performance, we are just advising a less overkill aproach 😉
Hello I was hoping you could help me out since I can literally not find anything on RTX 2070 Super and i5-6600k rigs.
This is my current rig:
CPU: i5-6600k 3.50GHz
GPU: nVIDIA GTX 980
MOBO: Asus z170-a
RAM: 16GB Hyper-X
HDD: 1TB Seagate
SSD: 250 SSD BX
O.S: Windows 10
PSU: Corsair CX 750
CASE: Corsair Carbide 200R
I am hoping to upgrade to an RTX 2070 Super and a Thermaltake 3.0 120mm water cooler for my cpu, but I don't know if I should do this upgrade as I fear the i5-6600k will be a bottleneck. I currently run it on stock but I am planning on OC-ing to about 4.5 GHz.
Seeing your video, I can clearly tell that you get over 60 fps with almost any game on Ultra so I was wondering if the same would be applicable to me if i upgrade from my 980 to RTX 2070 super. I should say that most of the time I won't even have some settings on like MSAA, Motion Blur, and I usually use Medium settings for extra settings like vegetation and shadows.. My current setup is fine i can run stuff on Medium but BF:V is really terrible, even on Medium i get like 40-50 fps i think thats because i havent OC'd my CPU at all though.
My question is do you think the i5-6600k would bottleneck the RTX 2070 Super, or could I play smoothly 60+fps on any title.
Also, what do you think my chances are of running Modern Warfare (multiplayer not warzone) on a 144hz monitor. I understand I will probably have to sacrifice settings to medium and stuff but do you think I could get that if i i upgrade to 2070S,
Sorry for the long message :D
forgot to mention I currently run 1080p lol
@@viganosmani3137 i am glad to be of any help to you so no issues with the long message.
First of all i will say that now is not a good time for any kind of upgrade to your system because intel is releasing their new 10th Gen CPU's on may 20th and expect to see NVIDIA 3000 Series in a couple of month too.
Secondly 6600K is definitely a bottleneck for 2070 Super, but u r gonna notice the bottleneck above 70 FPS mark most of the time. So playing on average 60 FPS is not a problem for that pair, Utilizing the worth of 2070 Super is gonna be the question there.
Yes you can play Modern Warfare with 6600K + 2070 Super (High/Medium settings + Raytracing off).
If you have enough budget for a 2070 Super which is gonna be around 500-600$. I would suggest you to build a better balanced system by adding a little bit more to that.
like intel i5 10500 + NVIDIA RTX 3060 (if this is what green team would call it).
@@axicuno4828 Thank you so much for the reply, I really appreciate it.
The thing is that I am about to graduate so my parents are giving me a little gift, I'm afraid that If i dont use my chance to upgrade now I wont have that chance for the next few years and I'm not sure how much longer my 980 is gonna be able to run things, so personally speaking this is the best/only time I can actually upgrade (but i still cant go above 500-600 Euros).
With this in mind, do you still advocate that I wait or just do it since I'm going to be playing at 60hz and that shouldn't be a problem for the 2070S, and when eventually I get my own money to upgrade, then I would just need to upgrade the MOBO and CPU rather than all three at once (maybe even the monitor later on), or what if I just settled for the 2060 Super instead. I do however understand that even for a 2060S, I will probably not be able to utilize its full worth.
I'm not the gamer that I used to be, so my main game every year is going to be CoD, and other old classics (CSGO, WoW, Hearthstone etc, which realistically, I can still run on my GTX 980) but im afraid that if i dont use this graduation gift to upgrade, I wont be able to do it in the immediate future, hopefully you understand my conundrum
Once again, sorry to bother you with this but I really really appreciate your help
@@viganosmani3137 Well, good luck for the completion of your graduation buddy.
In your case i would suggest you to go with a 2070 Super/RTX 2080 (if you can find it cheap in your budget) now instead of 2060 super because of two things.
1) Future proofing (the obvious one).
2) A 2070 Super would give your option to use super sampling or play at higher resolutions (1440p/4K) with DSR on a 1080p monitor and at that resolution your 6600K (if overclocked) would not be much of a problem. This would still feel like a temporary solution for a max of 2-3 years but you will be able to play any game at 75+ FPS easily.
Wait for ryzen gen 3, you'll get more for less
Ah!
Love this kinda content.
i have a 7700K though.
Never gonna give up on Intel gaming...
Hello are those stutters on the i5 6600k because of bottleneck?
Yes, mainly GTA 5 was stuttering a lot but at higher resolutions there was no stuttering and barely any bottlenecks.
Will performance be good with i5 6600k and GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB OC DUAL EVO ??
Yes it will be fine (balanced system).
I wonder to buy a 2070 but i have 6600k, which cpu is better (used also) to buyto avoid bottleneck?
Consider i dont want cange my mobo (z170)
The max you can go is 7700K if you don't want to change your motherboard.
7700K can handle 2070 or 2070 Super just fine. Obviously there are gonna be bottlenecks at 1080p resolution but u will still be able to play most games easily at over 100FPS.
thanks for your answer i play at 1440p. So , if i buy a 7700 and 2070 they should be fine and there shouldn't be bottleneck. Correct?
@@salvatoreburzilla6000 don't worry about bottlenecks at that resolution. But it would be better if you could buy a better graphic card like RTX 3070 or maybe wait a while for NVidia to release their 3060TI.
6700k still kicking for me
I still game on a 1080p monitor and i can't stand the stutter of my i5 6600k ... It's always between 80% and 100% , I'll definitely try to find a used i7 and sell mine since i can't afford to change the mobo and cpu for now. Thanks for the video!
yeah in such a case 7700K would be a better choice.
welcome :)
Wait until you see what used 7700k's are selling for. You'd have to be crazy to buy one right now, man. $280 for nearly 4 year old tech with only 4 cores/8 threads. Your best bet is to sell your board and CPU while people are still dumb enough to pay good money for an i5 6600k on eBay and build a new rig... using the RAM and SSD/HDD you already have, of course. Ryzen is going to be your best bang for the buck but I don't care what brand you go with... it's just the point that you can get a brand new 8 core/16 thread CPU for the price of a used i7 7700k.
If you're a gamer, there's no point in "upgrading" to a dead end platform with only 8 threads. In another year, games will be maxing out your 7700k just like the 6600k is having problems with now. Games already push 8 threads to 95%, anyways. Then, you'll need to upgrade, again, and the 7700k you paid $280 used for won't be worth half of what it is now. Be smart about it.
@@JustAGuy85 yep you re absolutely right .. i was about to make a dumb decision .. I just can't stand the stuttering , cpu is always at 90% , i look for a Ryzen 5 3600 + a mobo and sell mine. Btw i have 16gb of ram at 2666mhz, ryzen will do just fine or i need to purchase 3600mhz ones ?
Im curious in which games you get the most stutter and the gpu you are using? i have only been playing older games on my 6600k and using a gtx 1650 so its has yet to bottle neck but never occurred to me that it would stutter on newer titles. thanks finally might have a justification to upgrade ha.
whats the voltage for 4.7ghz on your 6700k? Mine can do 4.5ghz at 1.3V but cant do 4.6ghz in less than 1,36V and it really pisses me off
Well i have recently changed cooler. I am able to do 4.7GHz @1.36V Adaptive and Offset is (- 0.016) = 1.344V. Everything is set to auto. NO LLC or any other tuning.
try setting things to auto, set manual voltage and then push forward from 4.5 GHz.
@@axicuno4828 temperatures are not an issue at 1.36 volts my cpu doesnt go above 76-77c so I figured the problem is bad oc ability on my relatively cheap mobo or really bad cillicon lottery on my chip
@@BM____ 75+ is on the higher side for this CPU at 4.5 bro.
Yeah i agree to those factors also that it is an age old CPU and not the most high end motherboard but for a 4.6 GHz it won't need anything more than 1.35V.
Arcturus Ignite What is your max temperature after 3 cinebench r20 runs? and what is the ambient temperature in your room? mine is about 30c during the summer
@@BM____ I did cinebench r20 run and average temp was around 66, max temp 70. Room Temp 30C. (Adaptive 1.36-0.016=1.344V)
I tested 3 times again with different config. My CPU is not pushing 4.8GHz on all core. so what i did was, i pushed 3 Cores to 4.8 and last one to 4.7(@1.408-0.016=1.392V). Started the test, during all 3 cinbench run my max core frequency remained 4.7 on all cores and temps increased a little (Avg temp 70, Max temp 74). So advice here is don't push your voltage too high because it's not required.
Another factor to consider here is temperature difference between the hottest and the lowest core. My hottest core was at 70 and lowest at 61 (@1.344V). 9C temperature difference is a lot. I am assuming that it is one of the reason i am not able to push 4.8 on all.
And which cpu cooler you are using ?
Well 7700k is still so expensive now in year 2023, it makes mores sense just to buy new stuff then even include a new cheap motherboard. It would make sense if you can find a good price 7700 or 6700 without K.
I have 6600k and rtx 3060.I can upgrade to 6700k very cheap.For like 50$.Should i do it?
50$ is fine to pay for that upgrade. Yes u should get it.
i have a i5 6400 2,7Ghz with RX 570 8GB and i have to think update i7 6700K 4.00Ghz. Is the option good?? Hello from Spain :)
Yes the option is only good if you have a capable motherboard and also if you can find a 6700K in around 60-80€ at max. :)
@@axicuno4828 i found a i7 6700k 4.00Ghz in around 200 euros
@@byjoshucod5040 No bro please don't upgrade to a 6700K for that price. A big NO.
First of all you would not notice a huge jump in performance by upgrading your CPU but if you really need to upgrade it, please look for other options like a 10th Generation i3 or maybe AMD'S 3300x CPU and a new compatible motherboard. You might be able to find both(new processor+motherboard) in around 200 Euros.
@@axicuno4828 Agreed. i7 6700/k and 7700/k owners haven't accepted the reality that their CPU's are not worth what they paid for them now with this new wave of 6 and 8 core/12 and 16 thread CPU's at great prices. They're still trying to sell i7 7700k's on eBay for $280... USED! But, apparently there's enough idiots out there to buy them lol. I wouldn't pay a buck over $120 for an i7 7700k. For what they're asking, I could get a 6 core/12 thread Ryzen 3rd gen CPU AND motherboard.
And that's what people should do. If you have a Z170/Z270 motherboard, consider yourself stuck with whatever CPU you have in it. You want an upgrade? Sell your board and CPU and you can upgrade to a MUCH better AMD Ryzen 5/7 3rd gen+ rig for little to nothing. It's literally cheaper to sell what you have and go Ryzen with all new parts instead of trying to buy a used 7700k that someone has ran overclocked for 4+ years.
Seriously, not to keep going on, but I can't believe people are still paying $280 for a 4 core/8 thread CPU that's almost 4 years old when you can get a brand new 8 core/16 thread CPU for the same price or a 6 core/12 thread CPU and motherboard for that price. Or if you are brand loyal even if it means paying more for less, go intel 10th gen. These 6700/7700k owners trying to sell their used CPU's need to accept reality. Sht happens.
@@axicuno4828 60-80 euros damn lol in my country i7 6700 is around 150 euros k version around 200
I'm plan on getting the 3080. But I have the i5 6600. I'm pretty sure it will be bottleneck. So what is the minimum cpu do I need for the 3080
It depends on the resolution you wanna game at. If you are gaming at 1080p then an Intel i7 10700K or an AMD Ryzen R7 5800X (upcoming CPU) would be a good upgrade. At 4K resolution the bottlenecks are negligible and if budget is less then an Intel i5 10600K or AMD Ryzen R5 5600X (upcoming CPU) would be a worthwhile upgrade.
Minimum: 5600X, optimum: 5900X
or choose something between...it´s always good to have the CPU not being the bottleneck. 8 Cores 16 Threads should be possible because the consoles also have them and with 5600X it´s only 6 Cores 12 Threads....
hey i dont know a lot about computers but does the 6700 k work with a budget 80 dollar b450 motherboard
b450 motherboards are for AMD's CPU (AM4 Socket).
6700K will work with h170, z170, h270 and z270 motherboards.
get a z170 or 270.... if you're getting a k series chip, you want overclocking boards
@@axicuno4828 and b250
I can get a i5 6600k + gtx 1080 in a itx mini pc for 800 for playing emulator games only 👍😂 will it give me the needed performance?
Yes that should be enough.
@@axicuno4828 yes even my hp omen 2016 with i7 6700hq and only a little gtx960m is almost enough... I can even run New Super Mario Bros. U deluxe on it in 720p 😂
@@Serandi hahaha :D
-- I just wanna know, im not bragging --
how is possible i'm hitting more fps than your 2070 if i ve a 980 ti zotac omega?(1440 clock speed, 8000 clock memory)
i ve also an i5 6600k 4500 mhz and i ve 2x8 hyper fury x ddr4 to 2800 mhz.. Yes i ve oc my pc but.. im hitting 135 fps avarage in Benchmark Tomb Raider, for Ac Odyssey and tw3 are similar or a bit higher, i ve cpu bottleneck(100%cpu usage and 85/90% gpu usage) so i think my gpu cannot shine as her should.
Yeah it is definitely possible, could be the result of different graphic settings in game + i was recording simultaneously which lowers the average fps by about 5.
@@axicuno4828 i tried to follow yours settings and test on my self, yeah prob you are screen recordong and is slowing all your performance, though is impressive how 980 ti still rock!
@@Dovahkiin978 Well ti models are incredible for every generation they give enough performance to last for several years man.
@@axicuno4828 yeah indeed are awesome, btw you think i should upgrade my cpu i5 6600k to i7 6700k? from your good video seems yes but i7 costs 300€.. is better thinking about a new build overall or just cpu upgrade?
my specs:
msi z170a m5
i5 6600k 4.5ghz cooled with aio h60
hyper fury x ddr4 2800 mhz
psu 850i corsair
980 ti omega amp edition
@@Dovahkiin978 No way bro. 6600K is fine for a 980TI. You won't notice huge performance improvements with a better CPU. But if you really wanna upgrade CPU, a 7700K in your case would be a good upgrade but only if it's available under 100€ at most.
Video 3070 very expensiv Brothers????
i have 2k monitor. i am warning you guys i had 2080ti with 6700K and i assure you if you are playing games like bf5 or cpu intensitive even gta 5, nope dont buy it! i had 50-40 fps in gta V same goes for bf in every settings. (low to ultra) its bottlnecking too much. last month i bought ryzen 9 5900X and i realised that i wasnt playing with 2080ti at all. it was like 2060 most of the time.
Yes this is true.
Look at the 1% lows in GTA..should really show this in the graphs at the end. 6600K is just a stuttery mess in new games, 6700k is on the edge. Even if avarage framerate looks ok it still does not feel smooth. I have a 6700K my self and i think its time to upgrade.
6600K was stuttering badly.
6700K stutters in some of the new games.
I have a i5 6600k
And I want to upgrade to an i7 6700k
My gpu is a gtx 1080
Good upgrade?
If you are getting 6700K under 80$ its good upgrade. Otherwise i would suggest you to add up some money and put it in upcoming new 11th Gen CPUs of intel.
@@axicuno4828 oh noo it would be like 170$ for it. Thanks for telling me
@@toasthuawei1352 170$ is extremely high. It's better to go for upcoming i5 intel CPU with new motherboard. Yes it will cost more but will be good upgrade.
@@axicuno4828 unfortunately the prices for used hardware here in Germany are tremendous, I will wait and buy a newer cpu then.
Thank you
@@toasthuawei1352 Welcome :)
don't use NVIDIA GPUs for CPU intensive games
This is not how two cpus should be compared! To test cpus currectly you should lower the resolution or settings to prevent gpu bottleneck so that both cpus can max out and reach their maximum potential. Pretty basic stuff!
Quad cores are dead. Bless you AMD!
Not really...
Bad tests! You should take Novigrad or Oksenfurt in Witcher 3 and walking in Athens in Assassins' Creed. Other tests maybe will be same. Didn't played. Have 6600 without K. And prozessor K could be overpowered.
lol i test the same Games with i5 6600k and 2060, and I always have at least 15fps more than in the video here 😂 bad video
I can give you 100 more FPS in all these games with low hardware specs because all of them have graphic settings to play with.