Xenoblade 1- You have to be willing to fight for the future and not just blindly accept how things are. Xenoblade 2- Only by accepting the past, no matter how dark it is, can you work toward making the present better. Xenoblade 3- Getting stuck in the present will only lead to both your own and the worlds destruction eventually.
My favorite XC protagonist is definitely Rex, but it is clear that Shulk was the protagonist that matured the most. I bet he was definitely Melia's main advisor in her kingdom. While Rex acted more as a hero figure in his world. On another note, I think XC2's nations kept themselves as separate nations. I think the reason why Nia is a queen and a higher figure of authority is because she most likely became the representative leader of all blades in the world. As a Flesh Eater, the best healer, one of the strongest blades, and her history as one an adoptive daughter of an aristocrat, she became the leader and mediator for blades. As such, the idea was to have blades be of equal social status as drivers. Furthermore, the oriental/Japanese aesthetic of Agnus may be due to blades adopting the lost Tornan culture. Given the fact that blades became equal to drivers, seeing more and more driver-blade mixed kids became common.
@@danielmunoz1275 Rex and Shulk are my number 1 and 2 characters. For me, I think Shulk is lucky to have good mentor figures. IMO, Shulk was someone who needed to be supported by others to keep him on the right path. While Rex is the support system for everyone else. Rex is rarely given a chance to be comforted by others. I think that’s the reason why Rex grew to be more harsh in comparison to Shulk.
@@TheJaredPunchI feel a much simpler possible explanation for his occasional coldness is just the reality of the situation he’s in. _All three_ of his wives are nowhere to be seen, and his children are either Moebius (though idk if he knew that), in the cycle (and thus doomed to die and be reborn, and he may have to _witness that a time or two_ if he dared look for Glimmer, which is why I like to think he was so hesitant at first to be closer to her in FR), or whatever the hell happened to his kid with Mythra. He’s shaken, only holding his trademark positivity and heroism together through sheer grit and determination. The look he gives when we first see him separate the artificial “Pneuma” sword into the two replicas of the other two Aegis swords said it all.
@@danielmunoz1275 That makes sense. Shulk was a scientist and a researcher. He thrives by acquiring knowledge. The fact that he would be shown as "maturing" more then what's essentially a blue collar worker would make sense.
> "Glitches in the System" Hmm...... *side glances at Noah and Mio* I also love how when Matthew says "maybe it'll even be you", you can make out the fainted genuine mournful expression on N's face. For a split second, he genuinely wanted to take up that fight, that offer, once more. After all, he just got a taste of it, as without him and Matthew joining forces, the Founders never could've defeated Alpha. They quite literally learned from the past and utilized the present to fight for a future they desired. It was the closest N ever got to being "Noah" again until he opted to merge with main story Noah again 1000 years later, the only other time a "Logos" opted to team up with a "Pneuma" against an out-of-control "Ontos" that we know of. It's made all the more better that he has his mask on when he does that, as the mask isn't so much to hide his identity as it is to strike fear into his opponents by removing any sense of emotional reading they might use on him. This game is literally top 3 of all time for me and I feel so damn awful that I wanna keep replaying it, its literally the antithesis of the game's present.
Just flat out saying “A was a god-slaying sword in a past life” was not how I would have put it, but it’s just such a hilariously apt choice of words that I may have to steal it when I try to explain the plot of this saga to my friend.
Great summary, some points, I have to add: -From the Base game, we know, that M was awoken by the lives lost by N attacking the city, so she didn‘t exist before and everything involving M, has to happen after. -The way Glimmer talks about her Homecoming: her „offerring“, makes it clear, that M introduced the modern form of homecoming after Future Redeemed. -For people wondering, what is going on with the radio, the gist of it is, that it contains references to all other Xeno Games, making people speculate, if Monolith is in the progress of connecting either Xenosaga or Xenoblade X to the other Xenoblade game, or, if those are all just easter eggs. (Those two are mainly, because then the spec of light in the post credits of Future Redeemed could be either KOS-MOS or Elma, Xenogears is not speculated about, because that would be a hopeless case, both from rights issues as well as much bigger contradictions between the lore of Gears and Blade.) -It‘s not actually clear, if Matthew setting out after Future Redeemed was the last time he visited the city, we do know, he would eventually leave and only his descendents return centuries later, but the circumstances don‘t really match the description on his statue, which again has been proven to not be completely reliable, so what I want to say, it is up to interpretation. -I want to note, that there is a possibility, that Glimmer and Nikol ended up with one another. This would explain, why Glimmer’s statue is the only one to not call her the founder of her house, if Rhodes only later split from Ortiz.
To further elaborate on the Radio, that one three minute scene meant as a background detail to the plot actually going on, requires about 45 minutes to discuss in full detail. Thank you Luxin for being the one to do that.
@@QueenofAgnus The dude makes one extremely safe bet that everyone who has the slightest knowledge of the franchise will before him amongst a bunch of complete bs that gets disproven as soon as new info drops yet acts like he predicts things. Don't forget he was an avid believer that we'd get an epilogue and not a prologue in the form of FR.
Found this video from the Grace of the algorithm and in the 2 years Xenoblade 3 has been out I don’t know if I’ve heard the game spoken about with this level of nuance and detail. Can’t wait for the next part!
The endless now, the long lasting time between the releases of each part of this series. The eternal cliffhanger for those who, just like me, didn't play the game and are forever stuck in this present util the series comes to an end, allowing us to move into the future which holds... ...proceeds to check the pool... ... into the future that holds Triangle Strategy.
@@thecursed_1lordofcats738I definitely intend to play the Xenoblade series eventually, but atm I don't have enough time to commit to a full long running RPG. Besides that I only play on PC, and it can be really tough to "track a friend with a console and a copy of the Xenoblade games to lend me" if you know what I mean.
Crazy how Aionios isn't just the worse possible place to be, but it was specifically designed that way. Absolutely nothing about it is accidental and I think people overlook that when discussing Z as a villain
It’s kind of funny when you think about the fact that Rex is basically everyone’s grandad some way or another. In this case to Glimmer and her descendants with Nicol probably. Then with Mío and like all of her and Noah’s family line. So he is basically a great granddaddy to half of the cast in the game
Z is what happens if humanity ever fully gives into the fear of the future and the poison of nostalgia, he creates a stagnate, doomed world that has no future where it's people suffer needlessly to preserve a unfair, cruel present.
@@ScorbunGame Nostalgia beautiful when viewed in moderation but like everything its should be taken in moderation else it becomes a poisonious eternal obsession.
It’s kind of poetic that N equipped with “THAT SWORD” would be Z’s nightmare. Fitting considering Nihilism and how Nietzsche proposed the solution to Nihilism.
Damn, just finished watching the video one 2(great job there btw!), time for another treat right after! For 2 I had to get a drink and find a comfy seat, but I think this one might require some tissues
i really like these long, narrative videos. theyre nice and relaxing and fun to watch whether youre focusing on them or leaving them on in the background, but its kind of a shame that the only videos of yours that i really enjoy watching are the ones that end up just being descriptions of storylines from other pieces of media with only a small amount added on. still excited for part 2 tho, keep up the good work 👍
@@TheHearthGuy honestly for me - i enjoy it the way you've presented it too. It's like playing again (if I am being honest watching your videos all summer has made me replay xenoblade 3 and 2 again (I'l probably do 1 again but i was REALLY feeling the yearn for 2 after your videos). There is another youtuber who tells the lore in a storybook kind of way and you remind me so much of her, and it's just enjoyable. For me it's not a shame. - it's just fantastic.
Great Video! I love xenoblade 3, and it's great to see an analysis. Small correction tho, both Noah and N's sword are called Sword of the End. Sword of Origin specifically refers to what the sword transforms into when Noah/Mio uses in ouroborus form. And the Sword N uses in his final battle. Sorry for being pedantic about Swords.
Xenoblade 3 very swiftly became my favourite game of all time, so I am stoked to see you cover it thoroughly, even if the main game will have to wait a bit. Something I always found fascinating, and that I dont often see discussed when the franchise as a whole is looked at, is that Xenoblade Chronicles 3s events, due to being entirely caged up in Aionios, are unlikely to matter in the franchises scope as a whole? Xenoblade 1 and Xenoblade 2, both ended in different spots where they began. Both of their worlds are shattered and reborn, in a way. The Bionis breaks apart, when Shulk defeats Zanza and wishes for a world with no gods, creating a new, splintered world of Bionis, and Alrest is reborn and remade as Klaus' final gift to Rex, as he defeats Malos. With Xenoblade 3, at the end of it all, the world breaks too. Aionios, with the defeat of Z at the hands of Ouroboros, ends. But no new Aionios exists from there. Everything just picks back up in the same place that the games intro actually begins. With a child, Noah, at an anniversary celebration for Melia in New Bionis. As far as these worlds are concerned, Aionios may as well never have happened. The people of the city never existed. The fight against Z, longterm, never happened for the people for whom life now finally gets to continue. And I find that fascinating. I really hope Xenoblade 4 ends up tackling what consequences there may be from this theoretical blink in time, that nonethenless lasted thousands of years.
@@cnfsdsoul apparently the city people of Aionios are like future lives yet to be born I think? So they're not necessarily dead but they just don't exist in the world after the merge happens but I think they're gonna be born in the future.
This was great! I spend probably too much time thinking through the chronology of events and often find myself narrating a hypothetical video just like this one. It's grand to see someone sit down with all of the notes and details, and give the story it's due. Stuff Like Crys's offseeing included. You've also got a good narrative voice for it. Would love to see you talk about Ashera - another glitched consciousness that can remember her every life, even if only towards the end of it. Presumably she preceeded the first offseeing?
I have a theory about Noah and his reason to exist in the main game of Xenoblade 3. In the main game, you don't discover why Noah and Mio can exist as Moebius and soldiers at the same time. I think that the clue is in the clash between pneuma and logos at the end of the DLC. With the connection between N and Mathew and the power of the core crystals, N split in 2 creating the Noah we know inside the lines of Keves aside of N, the moebius. And with Noah, there will be a Mio too. We can say that the will of Mathew reached N thanks to the powers that created Aionios in first place. I think it connects well with the theme of the game. Two worlds merging while the people are always in conflicts. Also, the game is akways making you think and never explains the key things to understand the lore in a deep way. I love this about this gamebut I know that a lot of people that didnt like this because of it.
as fond as i am of the xenoblade saga, i can't wait to see what Monolith Soft will make next. i really hope they get to remake xenosaga 1 2 3 into something more cohesive and polish but i don't think it's in the cards just quite yet...
this is an amazing video as i mentioned in another post. but here is my UO'S of UO's. [and you mentioned it here so i can just get it out of the way now]. Boy howdy do i hate the fact that the game made a Polyamorous relationship out what I felt was an amazing friendship between Pyra/Mythra/Nia/Rex. Yes yes (in my best Nia irritated voice). we all know about the scenes in the Crucible and everything after that. but for me honestly, that photo just felt like the biggest cop out - like we can't pick ONE of them so yeah! we'll just pick ALL of them. I'll be be more UO... it's mostly because I didn't really want rex to be end game with ANY of them. it would have been really lovely if that "I love you.... and everybody." meant he just LOVED them because they were his family/mentors. just give him (in FE: Awakening Terms) the Village Girl and everyone was just still a part of his life. but also because of your video. Today I Learned that Lucky Seven had the soul of Fiora/Meyneth. didn't know that. (and this is why i love the story recap + analysis vibe you do).
Let's go. Someone who pronounces the last letter from the alphabet correctly! It's quite funny to me Americans tend to pronounce it as zie. The letter z comes from zeta. Why would you pronounce that as zie. The funny thing is that basically every language pounces it as zet. German, Dutch, British English and more. No idea to how American English developed in such a way to pronounce z so differently but it's surtenly interesting.
German here! Personally, I always disliked the American pronunciation of the letter Z, because its so similiar to C. The more European 'Zet' meanwhile is more clearly distinct.
@@cnfsdsoul Yeah there is that to. I didn't even think about that. I am genuinely curious how it develloped in to that pronounciation in the US. Especially becouse no other language than American English seems to pronounce it that way. I am Dutch by the way.
As an American, the answers is quite simple money, you see in order to put words in newspapers back in the day it cost about $.10 per letter so we cut down on the letters and words with led to different pronunciations overtime
@@redfate8515 In that case my question simply becomes. Why is only the z effected by this? And how is it possible that other English speaking countries did not have this, problem(or atleast did not develop the same pronunciation habits) ?
18:36 wait. how does z just casually refference homecoming at this stage while convincing noah to become moebius? even if we said that m was already moebius because she's already dead (which no, it was noah's decision to become n that also revived mio as m) or let's say z has some ontos powers and can see visions (then why would he not just implement homecoming himself? and also why does he need his movie screen to watch everyone?) there's still no reason for z to refference it to n here, who definitely wasn't a soldier when it was invented, so it was never his motivation to reach it. is this just a plothole? i thought this was a xenoblade game! /j truth be told, i think the reason i didn't notice this until now is that i never really could make sense of the aionios chronology, it's all really messy due to noah and mio just always being there and you can never remember which incarnation of them did what. so thanks a lot for this video. keep up the great work.
I’m pretty sure Keves and Agnus were not confirmed to have existed whatsoever pre-Aionios; whether Nia was the queen of all of post-xb2 Alrest is also unclear. This makes sense, considering Agnus and Keves both translate to *lamb*, in Latin and Hebrew specifically, which makes a lot of sense in terms of Moebius considering the soldiers their ‘flock’ in a perverse way, but seems a bit odd to be chosen by Melia and Nia. Also: pronouns are *not used at all whatsoever* for A in the English localization, and A uses the self-referential pronoun ‘boku’ in Japanese, which is the masculine-leaning one. Using female pronouns for A is technically fine considering that A has no canonical English pronouns, but it is more inaccurate than singular they or managing to not use pronouns at all for A… which is rather difficult honestly >.
The nations needed names. And considering that Alcamoth is demolished and full of man eating dragon bird things. And Leftheria was an undeveloped shit hole in the middle of nowhere. Agnus and Keves would work until Xeno 4 gives us their official names.
Worth noting that A doesn’t use any pronouns whatsoever, so although A has an androgynous, leaning feminine appearance, the use of the “she” pronoun isn’t appropriate
If we want to get technical, I don't think any pronouns are ever used for A, in the English anyway, Japanese doesn't really do third person pronouns the same way English does. Rex says Ontos is meant to stand somewhere between the male and female Logos and Pneuma, so with Alpha, who is in the same boat as A, is always referred to as a he (And Alvis technically, but Alvis was whole back then), so I figured that mean A was the female half. That was my logic for referring to A as such.
Just letting you know, the official artbook mentions she is a woman. Her own design and voice should be a dead giveaway but at this point i'm convinced if you went to a zoo and someone told you the lions were actually chipmunks you would not only blindly believe it but brand anyone who questions it as some sort of fascist.
1:15:30 Actually, he is seen again! The founders statue states "Once victorious, he gathered the old City's people, scattered to the winds, and reestablished the City. With the City restored, he left its government in the hands of the Founder Doyle, and departed on a lonely expedition." The expedition we see in the game is him gathering the Citys people, then he comes back, and after the game there is a second expedition he goes on after the City is established and doesn't come back from it. I think. I could be wrong.
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Xenoblade 1- You have to be willing to fight for the future and not just blindly accept how things are.
Xenoblade 2- Only by accepting the past, no matter how dark it is, can you work toward making the present better.
Xenoblade 3- Getting stuck in the present will only lead to both your own and the worlds destruction eventually.
Glimmer: What about my Homecoming?!
Rex: Cope.
I love that Shulk acts someone who can give guidance to people like Melia and Rex.
Rex: and if you are still upset about it tomorrow, you may seethe.
My favorite XC protagonist is definitely Rex, but it is clear that Shulk was the protagonist that matured the most.
I bet he was definitely Melia's main advisor in her kingdom.
While Rex acted more as a hero figure in his world.
On another note, I think XC2's nations kept themselves as separate nations. I think the reason why Nia is a queen and a higher figure of authority is because she most likely became the representative leader of all blades in the world.
As a Flesh Eater, the best healer, one of the strongest blades, and her history as one an adoptive daughter of an aristocrat, she became the leader and mediator for blades.
As such, the idea was to have blades be of equal social status as drivers.
Furthermore, the oriental/Japanese aesthetic of Agnus may be due to blades adopting the lost Tornan culture. Given the fact that blades became equal to drivers, seeing more and more driver-blade mixed kids became common.
@@danielmunoz1275 Rex and Shulk are my number 1 and 2 characters.
For me, I think Shulk is lucky to have good mentor figures.
IMO, Shulk was someone who needed to be supported by others to keep him on the right path. While Rex is the support system for everyone else. Rex is rarely given a chance to be comforted by others. I think that’s the reason why Rex grew to be more harsh in comparison to Shulk.
@@TheJaredPunchI feel a much simpler possible explanation for his occasional coldness is just the reality of the situation he’s in. _All three_ of his wives are nowhere to be seen, and his children are either Moebius (though idk if he knew that), in the cycle (and thus doomed to die and be reborn, and he may have to _witness that a time or two_ if he dared look for Glimmer, which is why I like to think he was so hesitant at first to be closer to her in FR), or whatever the hell happened to his kid with Mythra.
He’s shaken, only holding his trademark positivity and heroism together through sheer grit and determination. The look he gives when we first see him separate the artificial “Pneuma” sword into the two replicas of the other two Aegis swords said it all.
@@danielmunoz1275 That makes sense. Shulk was a scientist and a researcher. He thrives by acquiring knowledge. The fact that he would be shown as "maturing" more then what's essentially a blue collar worker would make sense.
I’m not going to sugarcoat it, 3 rocked my world. Especially in its characterisation and how well it built off its predecessors.
And Lanz was the MVP?
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Well he certainly said he was.
Though I have heard, repeatedly, that he wants something a bit meatier.
Same honestly. Like shit, not prepared at all.
I dunno 3 was meh
> "Glitches in the System"
Hmm...... *side glances at Noah and Mio*
I also love how when Matthew says "maybe it'll even be you", you can make out the fainted genuine mournful expression on N's face. For a split second, he genuinely wanted to take up that fight, that offer, once more. After all, he just got a taste of it, as without him and Matthew joining forces, the Founders never could've defeated Alpha. They quite literally learned from the past and utilized the present to fight for a future they desired. It was the closest N ever got to being "Noah" again until he opted to merge with main story Noah again 1000 years later, the only other time a "Logos" opted to team up with a "Pneuma" against an out-of-control "Ontos" that we know of. It's made all the more better that he has his mask on when he does that, as the mask isn't so much to hide his identity as it is to strike fear into his opponents by removing any sense of emotional reading they might use on him.
This game is literally top 3 of all time for me and I feel so damn awful that I wanna keep replaying it, its literally the antithesis of the game's present.
love your videos, but just had to point out what an insane title "god cleaver" is. you make shulk sound like a secret dark souls boss, I love it
Its a really good title, shame I can't take credit for it. Its the title they give him in his boss fight.
@@TheHearthGuy Isn’t godcleaver also the name of his class (which I will forever be sad is unusable by the main game party)
The game literally calls him that.
@@mx.e2176 Just his Hero title. His class name is Grand Marshal
"Matthew practices second grade boy rules - beating them up until they become friends" this absolutely SENT me!
First have a punch out then drink to forget
48:59: Where house Doyle's legacy of hypocrisy started.
Just flat out saying “A was a god-slaying sword in a past life” was not how I would have put it, but it’s just such a hilariously apt choice of words that I may have to steal it when I try to explain the plot of this saga to my friend.
Great summary, some points, I have to add:
-From the Base game, we know, that M was awoken by the lives lost by N attacking the city, so she didn‘t exist before and everything involving M, has to happen after.
-The way Glimmer talks about her Homecoming: her „offerring“, makes it clear, that M introduced the modern form of homecoming after Future Redeemed.
-For people wondering, what is going on with the radio, the gist of it is, that it contains references to all other Xeno Games, making people speculate, if Monolith is in the progress of connecting either Xenosaga or Xenoblade X to the other Xenoblade game, or, if those are all just easter eggs. (Those two are mainly, because then the spec of light in the post credits of Future Redeemed could be either KOS-MOS or Elma, Xenogears is not speculated about, because that would be a hopeless case, both from rights issues as well as much bigger contradictions between the lore of Gears and Blade.)
-It‘s not actually clear, if Matthew setting out after Future Redeemed was the last time he visited the city, we do know, he would eventually leave and only his descendents return centuries later, but the circumstances don‘t really match the description on his statue, which again has been proven to not be completely reliable, so what I want to say, it is up to interpretation.
-I want to note, that there is a possibility, that Glimmer and Nikol ended up with one another. This would explain, why Glimmer’s statue is the only one to not call her the founder of her house, if Rhodes only later split from Ortiz.
To further elaborate on the Radio, that one three minute scene meant as a background detail to the plot actually going on, requires about 45 minutes to discuss in full detail. Thank you Luxin for being the one to do that.
About Glimmer and Nikol, I'd never noticed this difference on the statue before.
Great, more "proof" for the ship.
@@wutmagna7222 luxin is a fraud lmao
@@yellothekunt6826 'Luxin is a fraud lmao'
All he makes is educated predictions and theories, how is it fraudulent? 🗿
@@QueenofAgnus The dude makes one extremely safe bet that everyone who has the slightest knowledge of the franchise will before him amongst a bunch of complete bs that gets disproven as soon as new info drops yet acts like he predicts things.
Don't forget he was an avid believer that we'd get an epilogue and not a prologue in the form of FR.
I'm gonna send this video and its sequels to Mom since she's having trouble keeping track of the plot of Xenoblade 3
Jeez i forgot how genuinely tragic Ghondor's story was, he deserved so much better 😔
Genuinely thought you made a typo until I realized that you were talking about Matthew's granddad, not his descendant.
@@davidgeorge1943 They had to randomly recycle firstnames. Because the story wasn't confusing enough 😒
Found this video from the Grace of the algorithm and in the 2 years Xenoblade 3 has been out I don’t know if I’ve heard the game spoken about with this level of nuance and detail. Can’t wait for the next part!
The endless now, the long lasting time between the releases of each part of this series. The eternal cliffhanger for those who, just like me, didn't play the game and are forever stuck in this present util the series comes to an end, allowing us to move into the future which holds...
...proceeds to check the pool...
... into the future that holds Triangle Strategy.
Play the game. These lore explanations are great, but it's even more satisfying piecing it all together as you make your way through the game.
@@thecursed_1lordofcats738I definitely intend to play the Xenoblade series eventually, but atm I don't have enough time to commit to a full long running RPG. Besides that I only play on PC, and it can be really tough to "track a friend with a console and a copy of the Xenoblade games to lend me" if you know what I mean.
Crazy how Aionios isn't just the worse possible place to be, but it was specifically designed that way. Absolutely nothing about it is accidental and I think people overlook that when discussing Z as a villain
Even though I knew for a fact that XC3 wouldn't win GOTY, I'm still mad that it didn't win the soundtrack award
HOW in the RED YELLOW GREEN BLUE PURPLE ORANGE INDIGO FLIP did it lose to GoW Ragnarok??? I have a feeling that bias played into it.
Glimmer overcame her brainwash just after one attempt on her life
It’s kind of funny when you think about the fact that Rex is basically everyone’s grandad some way or another. In this case to Glimmer and her descendants with Nicol probably. Then with Mío and like all of her and Noah’s family line. So he is basically a great granddaddy to half of the cast in the game
39:03 “let’s just say, he showed them a thing or three.” Genuinely made me laugh out loud!
Riku: that one guy that held things up quietly
xenoblade 3 or how everyone is related to rex
My man literally jumps into family trees and goes "Welp, I'm here!" and people have to accept it.
Common.
Variety.
Nopon.
Indeed.
Yep totally common variety of ordinary Nopon
Hold on…if Fiora is in Lucky Seven, is the name then a reference to her being the 7th party member in XC1?
Z ultimately represents the weaknesses of mankind. With a world free of gods, humanity will be forced to fight its own battles.
Z is what happens if humanity ever fully gives into the fear of the future and the poison of nostalgia, he creates a stagnate, doomed world that has no future where it's people suffer needlessly to preserve a unfair, cruel present.
@@ScorbunGame Nostalgia beautiful when viewed in moderation but like everything its should be taken in moderation else it becomes a poisonious eternal obsession.
@@melkormorgothbauglir.4848 Too much of anything can be bad/poisonous to people or even the world itself in the game
@@RavenGamingOverLord Ye thats what I said.
It’s kind of poetic that N equipped with “THAT SWORD” would be Z’s nightmare. Fitting considering Nihilism and how Nietzsche proposed the solution to Nihilism.
Man I love future redeemed. Great video! Looking forward to the full 3 video
Riku may be Riki’s son, though it’s also been posited he may be Kino’s, though it truly is hard to say
Except the Aionios moments explicitly confirm he is Riki's son
Damn, just finished watching the video one 2(great job there btw!), time for another treat right after!
For 2 I had to get a drink and find a comfy seat, but I think this one might require some tissues
I swear to god the sound design of xc3 is masterful
i really like these long, narrative videos. theyre nice and relaxing and fun to watch whether youre focusing on them or leaving them on in the background, but its kind of a shame that the only videos of yours that i really enjoy watching are the ones that end up just being descriptions of storylines from other pieces of media with only a small amount added on.
still excited for part 2 tho, keep up the good work 👍
I'm sorry too. I try to add what analysis and examination I can that isn't already spelt out plainly, but it is what it is.
@@TheHearthGuy honestly for me - i enjoy it the way you've presented it too. It's like playing again (if I am being honest watching your videos all summer has made me replay xenoblade 3 and 2 again (I'l probably do 1 again but i was REALLY feeling the yearn for 2 after your videos). There is another youtuber who tells the lore in a storybook kind of way and you remind me so much of her, and it's just enjoyable. For me it's not a shame. - it's just fantastic.
I agree
I had totally forgotten M instated the Homecoming tradition, and off-seeing. It puts a couple plot concerns I had about XC3 to rest.
Great Video! I love xenoblade 3, and it's great to see an analysis. Small correction tho, both Noah and N's sword are called Sword of the End. Sword of Origin specifically refers to what the sword transforms into when Noah/Mio uses in ouroborus form. And the Sword N uses in his final battle. Sorry for being pedantic about Swords.
Xenoblade 3 is one of my three favorite pieces of media One, piece, Dresden Files and Xenoblade 3 are my favorite pieces of media
Xenoblade 3 very swiftly became my favourite game of all time, so I am stoked to see you cover it thoroughly, even if the main game will have to wait a bit.
Something I always found fascinating, and that I dont often see discussed when the franchise as a whole is looked at, is that Xenoblade Chronicles 3s events, due to being entirely caged up in Aionios, are unlikely to matter in the franchises scope as a whole?
Xenoblade 1 and Xenoblade 2, both ended in different spots where they began. Both of their worlds are shattered and reborn, in a way. The Bionis breaks apart, when Shulk defeats Zanza and wishes for a world with no gods, creating a new, splintered world of Bionis, and Alrest is reborn and remade as Klaus' final gift to Rex, as he defeats Malos.
With Xenoblade 3, at the end of it all, the world breaks too. Aionios, with the defeat of Z at the hands of Ouroboros, ends. But no new Aionios exists from there.
Everything just picks back up in the same place that the games intro actually begins. With a child, Noah, at an anniversary celebration for Melia in New Bionis. As far as these worlds are concerned, Aionios may as well never have happened. The people of the city never existed. The fight against Z, longterm, never happened for the people for whom life now finally gets to continue.
And I find that fascinating. I really hope Xenoblade 4 ends up tackling what consequences there may be from this theoretical blink in time, that nonethenless lasted thousands of years.
@@cnfsdsoul apparently the city people of Aionios are like future lives yet to be born I think? So they're not necessarily dead but they just don't exist in the world after the merge happens but I think they're gonna be born in the future.
This was great! I spend probably too much time thinking through the chronology of events and often find myself narrating a hypothetical video just like this one. It's grand to see someone sit down with all of the notes and details, and give the story it's due. Stuff Like Crys's offseeing included. You've also got a good narrative voice for it.
Would love to see you talk about Ashera - another glitched consciousness that can remember her every life, even if only towards the end of it. Presumably she preceeded the first offseeing?
>Forced to pronounce Z correctly by the game
Xenoblade doing God's work
I have a theory about Noah and his reason to exist in the main game of Xenoblade 3. In the main game, you don't discover why Noah and Mio can exist as Moebius and soldiers at the same time. I think that the clue is in the clash between pneuma and logos at the end of the DLC. With the connection between N and Mathew and the power of the core crystals, N split in 2 creating the Noah we know inside the lines of Keves aside of N, the moebius. And with Noah, there will be a Mio too.
We can say that the will of Mathew reached N thanks to the powers that created Aionios in first place.
I think it connects well with the theme of the game. Two worlds merging while the people are always in conflicts. Also, the game is akways making you think and never explains the key things to understand the lore in a deep way. I love this about this gamebut I know that a lot of people that didnt like this because of it.
as fond as i am of the xenoblade saga, i can't wait to see what Monolith Soft will make next.
i really hope they get to remake xenosaga 1 2 3 into something more cohesive and polish but i don't think it's in the cards just quite yet...
this is an amazing video as i mentioned in another post. but here is my UO'S of UO's. [and you mentioned it here so i can just get it out of the way now]. Boy howdy do i hate the fact that the game made a Polyamorous relationship out what I felt was an amazing friendship between Pyra/Mythra/Nia/Rex. Yes yes (in my best Nia irritated voice). we all know about the scenes in the Crucible and everything after that. but for me honestly, that photo just felt like the biggest cop out - like we can't pick ONE of them so yeah! we'll just pick ALL of them. I'll be be more UO... it's mostly because I didn't really want rex to be end game with ANY of them. it would have been really lovely if that "I love you.... and everybody." meant he just LOVED them because they were his family/mentors. just give him (in FE: Awakening Terms) the Village Girl and everyone was just still a part of his life.
but also because of your video. Today I Learned that Lucky Seven had the soul of Fiora/Meyneth. didn't know that. (and this is why i love the story recap + analysis vibe you do).
1:14:52 he wasnt wrong, it was him, literally
My Riku cope is still that hes Kino's kid, simply because Future Connected has to mean something
I hope that Shulk and Rex will connect with their true kids in Xenoblade 4.
Let's go. Someone who pronounces the last letter from the alphabet correctly! It's quite funny to me Americans tend to pronounce it as zie. The letter z comes from zeta. Why would you pronounce that as zie.
The funny thing is that basically every language pounces it as zet. German, Dutch, British English and more. No idea to how American English developed in such a way to pronounce z so differently but it's surtenly interesting.
German here! Personally, I always disliked the American pronunciation of the letter Z, because its so similiar to C. The more European 'Zet' meanwhile is more clearly distinct.
@@cnfsdsoul Yeah there is that to. I didn't even think about that. I am genuinely curious how it develloped in to that pronounciation in the US. Especially becouse no other language than American English seems to pronounce it that way. I am Dutch by the way.
As an American, the answers is quite simple money, you see in order to put words in newspapers back in the day it cost about $.10 per letter so we cut down on the letters and words with led to different pronunciations overtime
@@redfate8515 In that case my question simply becomes. Why is only the z effected by this? And how is it possible that other English speaking countries did not have this, problem(or atleast did not develop the same pronunciation habits) ?
@@OJvdH English is just weird like that
18:36 wait. how does z just casually refference homecoming at this stage while convincing noah to become moebius? even if we said that m was already moebius because she's already dead (which no, it was noah's decision to become n that also revived mio as m) or let's say z has some ontos powers and can see visions (then why would he not just implement homecoming himself? and also why does he need his movie screen to watch everyone?) there's still no reason for z to refference it to n here, who definitely wasn't a soldier when it was invented, so it was never his motivation to reach it. is this just a plothole? i thought this was a xenoblade game! /j
truth be told, i think the reason i didn't notice this until now is that i never really could make sense of the aionios chronology, it's all really messy due to noah and mio just always being there and you can never remember which incarnation of them did what. so thanks a lot for this video. keep up the great work.
@@deaf_dog- I'm pretty sure homecomings were always a thing, but the way it's done is different in the past compared to how they do it in the future.
I’m pretty sure Keves and Agnus were not confirmed to have existed whatsoever pre-Aionios; whether Nia was the queen of all of post-xb2 Alrest is also unclear.
This makes sense, considering Agnus and Keves both translate to *lamb*, in Latin and Hebrew specifically, which makes a lot of sense in terms of Moebius considering the soldiers their ‘flock’ in a perverse way, but seems a bit odd to be chosen by Melia and Nia.
Also: pronouns are *not used at all whatsoever* for A in the English localization, and A uses the self-referential pronoun ‘boku’ in Japanese, which is the masculine-leaning one. Using female pronouns for A is technically fine considering that A has no canonical English pronouns, but it is more inaccurate than singular they or managing to not use pronouns at all for A… which is rather difficult honestly >.
The nations needed names. And considering that Alcamoth is demolished and full of man eating dragon bird things. And Leftheria was an undeveloped shit hole in the middle of nowhere. Agnus and Keves would work until Xeno 4 gives us their official names.
is your description wrong? it says xeno 2 stuff and alrest lool
Thanks for the catch, fixed it.
I honestly still think 2 and Torna are the best, but I LOVED 3 as well. Future Redeemed addressed most of the gripes I had with base game 3.
1:05:50 Sir, you’re talking about Xenoblade. It’s all political.
Worth noting that A doesn’t use any pronouns whatsoever, so although A has an androgynous, leaning feminine appearance, the use of the “she” pronoun isn’t appropriate
Shut the hell up and cope. She's a woman.The artbook proved it since your eyes apparently don't work. God damn you trenders are annoying.
"androgynous, leaning feminine" lmfao
She uses the pronouns she/they, meaning both are appropriate
@@patrickzantomaster as evidence by the text A doesn’t use any pronouns
Just letting you know. I'm pretty sure A is meant to be genderless and thus uses They/Them pronouns
If we want to get technical, I don't think any pronouns are ever used for A, in the English anyway, Japanese doesn't really do third person pronouns the same way English does.
Rex says Ontos is meant to stand somewhere between the male and female Logos and Pneuma, so with Alpha, who is in the same boat as A, is always referred to as a he (And Alvis technically, but Alvis was whole back then), so I figured that mean A was the female half.
That was my logic for referring to A as such.
@@TheHearthGuy Personally, I disagree. But go off king
Just letting you know, the official artbook mentions she is a woman. Her own design and voice should be a dead giveaway but at this point i'm convinced if you went to a zoo and someone told you the lions were actually chipmunks you would not only blindly believe it but brand anyone who questions it as some sort of fascist.
1:15:30 Actually, he is seen again! The founders statue states "Once victorious, he gathered the old City's people, scattered to the winds, and reestablished the City. With the City restored, he left its government in the hands of the Founder Doyle, and departed on a lonely expedition."
The expedition we see in the game is him gathering the Citys people, then he comes back, and after the game there is a second expedition he goes on after the City is established and doesn't come back from it. I think. I could be wrong.